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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Antigen on February 03, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
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Hidden Lake Academy
Total Grants to Hidden Lake Academy
Total $ Granted: $ 2,000
For Years: 2003
# Grants: 1
Grants to Hidden Lake Academy
Date Amount Purpose Funder
1-1-2003 2,000 Charitable Walton Family Foundation
http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipi ... entID=7762 (http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientgrantsprint.php?recipientID=7762)
He that will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not, is a slave.
--William Drummond (1585-1640)
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Isn't that the family that runs Wal-Mart and Sam's Clubs?
I really wish these places would do their homework before they donate money to these places.
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Doesn't look like they were that impressed. Only $2K and nothing since 2003.
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Oh wait wait wait. Didnt one of the puppets claim they give 250,000 a year in scholarships?
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On 2006-02-03 10:56:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Oh wait wait wait. Didnt one of the puppets claim they give 250,000 a year in scholarships?"
Yeah, but they were referring to the money HLA gives to its own patients (free ride money), not outside donations.
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Um, not 'free ride money'. "Hook and Crook" money. Bribe money, used to encourage parents to keep their kids there in order to avoid having to repay the 'scholarship'.
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On 2006-02-03 11:12:00, Deborah wrote:
"Um, not 'free ride money'. "Hook and Crook" money. Bribe money, used to encourage parents to keep their kids there in order to avoid having to repay the 'scholarship'."
If a student is going to HLA for free, what other motivation would they have to keep the kid there, other than the fact that they thought it was the best thing for the kid? If it was all about money there would be more motivation to keep them there for most of the program and then try to get the family to withdraw at the very end. If the kid stays there the whole time, the school gets nothing.
HLA tries to get kids to stay the whole time because they believe that is what it best for the kid.
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Liar.
Everytime a kid gets pulled it means he didnt fall victim to your programming and you all have lost another referal.
HLA will do anything to protect its image, irregardless of the truth.
That much has been made abundantly clear by your recent activites.
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But it does show that for the kids getting a free ride, keeping them at HLA is not about money. HLA receives NOTHING by keeping the kid.
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On 2006-02-03 13:51:00, HLA Truth wrote:
"But it does show that for the kids getting a free ride, keeping them at HLA is not about money. HLA receives NOTHING by keeping the kid.
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Roughly, out of your entire patient population, how many are staying free?
Also, what incentives do you offer patients' parents for referrals? A month free tuition per referral?
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On 2006-02-03 13:57:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
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On 2006-02-03 13:51:00, HLA Truth wrote:
"But it does show that for the kids getting a free ride, keeping them at HLA is not about money. HLA receives NOTHING by keeping the kid.
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Roughly, out of your entire patient population, how many are staying free?
Also, what incentives do you offer patients' parents for referrals? A month free tuition per referral?
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Honestly, I am not sure. At one point I heard as many as 10 percent were on full scholarship, but I can't swear to that.
To my knowledge we do not offer any incentives to students parents for referrals, but again, I would not swear to that. Obviously, I am not part of the business office.
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Do you still hold parents hostage with the scholarships?
Threaten them that if they pull their kid they will have to pay back the full amount of tuition?
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On 2006-02-03 14:38:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Do you still hold parents hostage with the scholarships?
Threaten them that if they pull their kid they will have to pay back the full amount of tuition?"
I would place a thousand dollar bet they do. DEFINITELY.
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Original comment:
And BTW... Hidden Lake gave families over 250,000 dollars in scholarships last year. 10% of the families go there for free.
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An impossibility. As DJ pointed out, that would be 3.5 kids. Are you implying that there are only 35 kids at HLA?
When asked if the ?scholarship? was actually a discount, you said:
Yes. Families have to pay back the financial aid if they do not finish the program.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =20#167224 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13598&forum=41&start=20#167224)
So, the ?scholarship? money is actually financial aid, and only if the kid finishes the program. No way of knowing how many finish. Are families required to repay the ?discount/scholarship? if HLA boots their kid before they have ?graduated??
What?s not clear is how many people receive the ?discount?, and how many, if any, are paying no tuition.
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On 2006-02-03 08:21:00, LMJ630 wrote:
"Isn't that the family that runs Wal-Mart and Sam's Clubs?
I really wish these places would do their homework before they donate money to these places."
Yeah well Len showed him a draft version of the new website and he thought they were engineering the perfect Walbot. Then he ran into ShortBus at the last LifeSprings seminar and withdrew his support.
Look what Smell Sembler is up to these days...
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=8&Sort=D (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13790&forum=8&Sort=D)
These turkeys must know each other. And I bet it has some bit to do w/ your avid interest in this non interest of yours, doesn't it Suzanne's?Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance in America is lighting a fire underneath his own home.
--Harold E. Stassen, 1947
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Huh?
Im not sure what you are trying to say Ginger. What does Sembler have to do with anything with HLA? I dont know much about him other than reading whats on fornits, and not sure why you put my name on here but maybe you can clarify?
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Well, a few things. They share a favorite right wing political nut to whom they make multiple donations under various names and entities and they both are founders of Synanon based bm facilities. But that's not what I'm after. I'm after what HLA may or may not have to do with the Seed. Mel was a Seed parent and you married a Seedling.
Small world, eh? Wouldn't want to paint it though.Sacred cows make the best hamburger.
Mark Twain
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Ginger you are drawing conclusions that are erroneous. I have absolutely nothing to do with the founding of HLA. Dr. B had already bought the property when he hired my now ex-husband, the one who was NEVER at the Seed. And I don't know if Dr. B has ever met Mr. Sembler, I never heard him discuss him or the Seed. I didnt hear about the Seed until I married my current husband in 2002 and he told me about it. The fact that I used to be married to the director of operations at HLA and am now married to someone who used to attend the Seed is no more than a coincidence. The 2 schools are in two different states and were never owned by the same people.
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Are you absolutley sure, SHH??
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Am I absolutely sure that me marrying a Seed person was a coincidence? Yes
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I just find it odd and a little repulsive that you would choose to spend nearly your entire life surrounded by these freaks.
As has been said, the incestuous nature of this business is really creepy.
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SHH, I'm not drawing any conclusion. I'm asking questions and noting unexpected coincidences.
Harmlessly passing your time in the grasslands away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
you better watchout,
there may be dogs about.
I've looked over Jordan, and have seen.
Things are not what they seem.
--Roger Waters 1977
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As has been said, the incestuous nature of this business is really creepy.
Yeah, there is an awful lot of interconnectedness between these programs and the staff are on what I call the "Merry-Go-Round," moving from facility to facility after one gets shut down or the employee gets pinched for serious impropriety and gets "fired," but quickly rehired at a sister facility. It is pretty creepy.
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Hmm, well, let me clarify something it appears I need to. I was 29 when I married Mr. Gray. Hardly most of my life. We were engaged already when he started working at HLA. When I got divorced, I moved to the other side of the county. I met my current husband through a friend, who has absolutely no connection to the school or anybody there. He lived in another county an hour and a half away. It wasnt until several months later that he told me about the Seed. He grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and knew nothing about HLA. Am I sure when I say that the Seed and HLA has no connection whatsoever through me? Yes. All of that was a coincidence, nothing more. Do I know if Dr. B knows Mr. Sembler or anything about the Seed? Well he probably knows a little about the Seed just from being a psychologist but as far as knowing Mr. Sembler, I dont know if he has ever met him. I don't know why some of you keep on trying to draw some sort of connection with me and HLA and the Seed, but that is all just a coincidence. I am sorry now that I ever mentioned that my current husband attended the Seed. I had a point to make when I did that but it got lost in the attempt of others to draw some sort of conspiracy theory out of it.
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The fact that employees of one school go to another shouldnt be a shock. There are alot of industries that have that happen. My experience is mostly in mortgage loans, and when I lived in Atlanta (for 20 yrs), I worked at 4 different banks. Over the course of 13 years, I ended up working with some of the same people at different banks. Some banks would merge with others and those people would come with the merger. Other times the employee would want to get a more advanced position but couldnt where they were so they would go to a different bank. There was one girl that ended up working at the same bank as I did 3 different times. I think any industry is like that, with the employees going around to the different businesses over the years due to what they have experience in.
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I'm not trying to draw a connection between YOU and HLA and the Seed necessarily. It's just really, really strange how all of these places and people seem to be connected through a couple of really odd coincidences. Maybe that's all they are, maybe not. It's just creepy either way.
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SHH said:
"The fact that employees of one school go to another shouldnt be a shock. There are alot of industries that have that happen. My experience is mostly in mortgage loans, and when I lived in Atlanta (for 20 yrs), I worked at 4 different banks."
This would be a proper analogy if you got fired from one bank for fucking a child at the bank and then got hired by another bank that knew your history of sexual abuse of children.
Otherwise, your analogy stinks. Banking and psychiatric institutions are hardly analogous.
This is exactly the reason why I continually caution you about speaking to matters about which you have no knowledge. Every time you make some lame attempt to explain away seriously bad or unethical behavior, you damage your own reputation.
Please, stick to what you know (like banking) and refrain from commentary on psychiatric treatment because you know absolutely nothing about it.
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On 2006-02-04 06:21:00, SHH wrote:
"The fact that employees of one school go to another shouldnt be a shock. There are alot of industries that have that happen. My experience is mostly in mortgage loans, and when I lived in Atlanta (for 20 yrs), I worked at 4 different banks. Over the course of 13 years, I ended up working with some of the same people at different banks. Some banks would merge with others and those people would come with the merger. Other times the employee would want to get a more advanced position but couldnt where they were so they would go to a different bank. There was one girl that ended up working at the same bank as I did 3 different times. I think any industry is like that, with the employees going around to the different businesses over the years due to what they have experience in."
How many banks are in this country? Compare that to how many BM centers there are. I realize that the BM numbers are increasing but come on. Sorry, its just creepy how these places appear to be interconnected. That's not even taking into account the Bushes and the Rep. party's affiliation with these places. And that you would end up married to two different people who have no apparent connection except they are (or were) both involved with these Synanon based BM facilities, IMO, says an awful lot about you.
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Well since my ex husband wasnt working at that type of facility when we met, and my current husband was never an employee of that type of facility, how does that correlate to what type of person I am?
And dysfunction I wasnt trying to tie the abuse factor to my comment, just the fact that people in the same industry tend to go to the same facilities or back and forth over time. That was all I was trying to say. I agree that if there is hard evidence that an employee abused a student or students and then went to work at another facility, that facility should do their research and prevent that person from being hired.
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On 2006-02-04 07:17:00, SHH wrote:
"Well since my ex husband wasnt working at that type of facility when we met, and my current husband was never an employee of that type of facility, how does that correlate to what type of person I am?
You just seem to have some sort of strange, sick pull towards that atmosphere and those people. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I don't think so.
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Are you trying to insinuate that my current husband is some sort of bad person because his parents forced him to attend the Seed? If so, I am sure alot of former Seedlings would beg to differ. And my ex wasnt working at a school when I met him. That was after we got engaged. So somehow they are similar? sorry, I still don't see any similarity to it at all.
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On 2006-02-04 07:22:00, SHH wrote:
"Are you trying to insinuate that my current husband is some sort of bad person because his parents forced him to attend the Seed? If so, I am sure alot of former Seedlings would beg to differ.
No, I'm not.
And my ex wasnt working at a school when I met him. That was after we got engaged. So somehow they are similar? sorry, I still don't see any similarity to it at all. "
I didn't expect you would.
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It does seem odd/rare that one person would conincidentally be involved with two different people who have connection to the industry. But maybe it's been going long enough now that this is becoming more common.
That aside, if one looks at SHHs attitude toward the treatment of young people (brats), it might help explain why she would support/defend the industry, and consequently be involved with someone who does. And even more vehemently support the program she had direct involvement with....
In the old days, we were paddled with ping pong paddles, smacked on our hands with rulers, spanked with the infamous "switch", and whacked with hairbrushes when we misbehaved. Somehow, we all turned out fine. Maybe the old "spare the rod, spoil the child" isnt so off course after all. From what I have seen, the kids these days are spoiled brats. I am not condoning abuse, but maybe the threat of time-out isn't enough. Maybe real consequences are what is needed.
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My experience is mostly in mortgage loans
Oh yeah! Forgot about that one. Art and his inner cadre went into real estate and some sort of mortgage brokering type business. Do you do business w/ Lybbi and Bob or maybe the Art n Shelly faction? (post "rap from hell")A fundamentalist Christian President who claims God told him to invade Iraq ? an act that killed more than 150,000 civilians, mostly women and children ? is not that much different from a fundamentalist Islamic fanatic who claims it is the will of Allah that he send young men to America to crash airliners into office buildings and kill 3,000 plus.
DOUG THOMPSON
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No I have never done business with those folks. I work in another state now, and I have never done any business with a bank that was based in Florida. Once again, I have no connection to the Seed other than my current husband. Why is this not sinking in? I have never met or talked to The Semblers or Art from the Seed. I dont know them, never met them, never talked to them, and dont know much about them other than what my husband told me or what ive read on here.
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Either way lady, it seems like you have some sort of strange homing device that allows you to zero in on people that are or were involved in this twisted little industry. Again, says a lot about you that you would continuously seek out those kinds of people, even if subconsciously.
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Tell me, your comment "Those kinds of people" is a little strange, what do you mean by that? My ex is employed as a director of business operations. He is not part of the counseling part of the school. He could be employed at any school, private, boarding, day, or therapeutic and do the same job. My current husband was an attendee of the Seed, has never worked for a school, or considered working for a school. The two men are nothing alike. How is it that you consider them "those kinds of people" when they are nothing alike and arent even in the same line of work?
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On 2006-02-04 11:46:00, SHH wrote:
"Tell me, your comment "Those kinds of people" is a little strange, what do you mean by that? My ex is employed as a director of business operations. He is not part of the counseling part of the school. He could be employed at any school, private, boarding, day, or therapeutic and do the same job. My current husband was an attendee of the Seed, has never worked for a school, or considered working for a school. The two men are nothing alike. How is it that you consider them "those kinds of people" when they are nothing alike and arent even in the same line of work? "
You won't get it because you don't want to get it. Your ex is part and parcel of the problem. I don't give a rat's ass if he works there as a couselor or a fucking janitor, he obviously doesn't have a problem with the way things are done there or he wouldn't be working there in ANY capacity now would he?
I don't know anything about your current husband other than he is a Seed grad. Nothing wrong with that, he probably didn't have a choice in being there but that YOU seem to be drawn to people who were either in as a "patient" or are involved as a staff member is what I find a little twisted. Shit, I couldn't WAIT to get away from all of that bullshit. You seem to thrive on it.
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Cybie are you really that far gone that you cannot accept how strange it seems that you would be married to two seperate people both of whom have strong ties to the BM industry?
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Its not strange at all. One works at a school and the other attended a school that is totally different and in another state over 34 years ago. Its just a coincidence and nothing more. My ex didnt even work at a school when I met him. And I was already engaged to my current husband when he told me about the Seed experience. There is no connection whatsoever no matter how badly some of you try to portray that. Its a C O I N C I D E N C E; maybe if I spell it out some of you can grasp the concept.
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She won't answer Brucey bee, she's too busy fingering herself. :wink:
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You already used that line on HLATruth ShortBus dude. Come up with a new one for me or Ill be offended :lol:
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On 2006-02-04 19:27:00, SHH wrote:
"Its not strange at all. One works at a school and the other attended a school that is totally different and in another state over 34 years ago. Its just a coincidence and nothing more. My ex didnt even work at a school when I met him. And I was already engaged to my current husband when he told me about the Seed experience. There is no connection whatsoever no matter how badly some of you try to portray that. Its a C O I N C I D E N C E; maybe if I spell it out some of you can grasp the concept. "
In all likelyhood you just get off on child abuse stories.
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Whats the seed?
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On 2006-02-18 11:17:00, Richard Pryor on Fire wrote:
"Whats the seed?"
An abusive "drug treatment" cult that is now defunct. Check out the Seed forum if you're interested.
This forum is to discuss Hidden Lake Academy.
Thanks.
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On 2006-02-18 11:19:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
This forum is to discuss Hidden Lake Academy.
Thanks.
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Easy there DJ. I think Ginger and few others were interested in a connection between the two programs, if in fact there is one.
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On 2006-02-18 11:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-02-18 11:19:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
This forum is to discuss Hidden Lake Academy.
Thanks.
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Easy there DJ. I think Ginger and few others were interested in a connection between the two programs, if in fact there is one."
Of course there's a connection in philosophical terms. There is no functional connection.
How is asking "what is the seed" probing any relationship between the two? I referred this guy to the Seed forum so he can learn what it IS first.
I am going easy. I didn't jump on anybody. This thread is getting very interesting and I just don't want to see it get sidetracked in a useless fashion.
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Fair enough my friend. :smile:
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I have some insight into the Seed/HLA matters Richard, only from the perspective of being at HLA for 4 years and being married to one of its first employees for 7 yrs, and being currently married to a former Seed attendee. There is no connection to the Seed and HLA. The reason that question got brought up was Ginger assumed from a statement I made that there was a connection, due to the fact that my current husband attended the Seed in 1971-1972 in Ft. Lauderdale. I met him over a year and a half after my divorce from the employee of HLA and they didn't know each other, nor had any idea about each others schools. It was a coincidence, nothing more. The owner of HLA does not have any connections to the Seed program, nor has he in the past. I have no connections to the Seed program other than being married to one of its former students. From what I have been told about the Seed's techniques, methods, operations, and motives, it was nothing whatsoever like HLA. I suppose all programs that deal with teens who have issues have some similarities in some of its psychiatric aspects, but other than some coincidences in general psychiatry, they arent connected in philosophy or ownership.
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How would you know about the philosphy at HLA? You kept your head in the sand the entire time you were there. Coupled with the fact that you had no involvement or interaction with the school, and were deemed so unimportant no one ever told you anything about either themselves or the school.
So again how would you be able to compare the two.
Oh and to answer the original question, Cybil just has an unhealthy obsession with child abuse stories hence her marriage habits. Shes been that way ever since her own beatings at the catholic school she attended which she misses dearly.
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You just proved you know nothing about me. I was never beaten at a Catholic school. I never married anybody due to their affiliation to child abuse stories or to their affilations with schools. I didnt know about my current husband's Seed experience until we were engaged. Bill did not work at HLA until 2 months before we got married. I dated him for a year before that. I was involved with the school in many other ways other than actual therapy and I was on campus almost every day the years that I lived there. I knew ALOT about things of which you have no clue. You know NOTHING about me that is fact and I suggest you stick to what you know, once again.
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Oh go check out my last post Bullfrog. It turns out I do know a few more things about you than you think.
You acknowledged you were hit at your catholic school and its obvious you got off on it. Hence why you marry men with similar backrounds. Or maybe you just hate children and like to hear about suffering.
As to all these things you think you did at HLA, be honest. You stuffed enevelopes nothing more. You arent capable of handling anything more streneous than that.
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Robert I never stated that. I stated that a public school I attended had a principal that used a ping pong paddle. I was never "beaten" by any teacher. Ever. And my job is very strenuous. I review and approve or deny millions of dollars of loans a week. I am consulted on changes to guidelines and policy. I do training of loan officers and other staff. YOu have no clue what my job involves. You just look worse and worse the more you try to guess at who and what I am.
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Dumbass no one even mentioned your current job. Whatever you do as a bagger and the Piggly Wiggly is uninteresting to me.
You claimed you were involved in all sorts of things at HLA.
When as we all know the truth is you were not.
Pay closer attention next time.
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On 2006-02-18 15:05:00, SHH wrote:
"Robert I never stated that. I stated that a public school I attended had a principal that used a ping pong paddle. I was never "beaten" by any teacher. Ever. And my job is very strenuous. I review and approve or deny millions of dollars of loans a week. I am consulted on changes to guidelines and policy. I do training of loan officers and other staff. YOu have no clue what my job involves. You just look worse and worse the more you try to guess at who and what I am."
No he doesn't.
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And the topic of this thread... was....
Grants, loans, scholarships......
Deal with your insecurities SHH. If you were secure in who/what you are, you wouldn't waste your, or our, time endlessly defending yourself.
Try a new stategy. Why not respond to RB in a PM?
Or start a topic just for 'Everything you ever wanted to know about SHH'. You could outline your complete history and career accomplishment, involvement with HLA, etc.
Then, instead of going on and on in unrelated threads, you can post a link to that topic.
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Someone named Richard asked who I was. I answered. Then Robert decided to start on his "how many things can I make up about SHH and post" antics. Can I not defend myself on here? I was attempting to straighten out the fact from the bullshit that Robert likes to say about me. But hey, if Im not allowed to defend myself and keep on being accused of distracting the threads instead of someone telling Robert to quit being obsessed with me, then fine, He distracted the thread by saying crap about me that isn't true AGAIN. I get the hint. I am not allowed to defend myself. I see how it is. And have for a long time. If I dont agree with some of you, I am not allowed to speak without being insulted. Very democratic of you. Just like the Bush administration. Anybody who doesn't agree with him must be antiamerican. Whatever.
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On 2006-02-18 15:37:00, SHH wrote:
I get the hint. I am not allowed to defend myself. I see how it is. And have for a long time. If I dont agree with some of you, I am not allowed to speak without being insulted. Very democratic of you. Just like the Bush administration. Anybody who doesn't agree with him must be antiamerican. Whatever."
No, you're wrong. Some of us have gotten on Robert Bruce about going back and forth with you. Some of us have gotten after you for it. Now I think we've all just kinda given up any hope for a normal, easy to follow discussion.
Although I have to say its been hilarious to see Robert, Short Bus and DJ toss you around. You're really easy!
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Yes I am glad you find humor in their immature behavior. When have I ever used such language on anybody like Short bus did to me today? that is ridiculous. I am glad you admire that quality. Shows what kind of person you are.
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On 2006-02-18 15:52:00, SHH wrote:
"Yes I am glad you find humor in their immature behavior. When have I ever used such language on anybody like Short bus did to me today? that is ridiculous. I am glad you admire that quality. Shows what kind of person you are."
I didn't say I admired them[/b]. I said I was having fun watching them bat you around.
Re: Short Bus' language. You've been around here long enough to know that kind of shit happens all the time to all different people. He did that to Robert for the longest time and you didn't seem to have a problem with it then.
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On 2006-02-18 15:37:00, SHH wrote:
"Someone named Richard asked who I was. I answered. Then Robert decided to start on his "how many things can I make up about SHH and post" antics. Can I not defend myself on here? I was attempting to straighten out the fact from the bullshit that Robert likes to say about me. But hey, if Im not allowed to defend myself and keep on being accused of distracting the threads instead of someone telling Robert to quit being obsessed with me, then fine, He distracted the thread by saying crap about me that isn't true AGAIN. I get the hint. I am not allowed to defend myself. I see how it is. And have for a long time. If I dont agree with some of you, I am not allowed to speak without being insulted. Very democratic of you. Just like the Bush administration. Anybody who doesn't agree with him must be antiamerican. Whatever."
Good god in heaven. There was no HINT. You've been straight out asked.
You're not ALLOWED?
This ain't a program here. Your posts aren't deleted. It's a plea from one adult to another adult to please stop.
This is not the SHH forum. It's the HLA forum. In case you haven't noticed, the majority of threads degenerate into this ongoing BS. Please, you and RB start your own thread and go at each other till you get it out of your systems.
Some of us are quiet tired of your ramblings that lend nothing to the discussion. We can't 'control' RB for you, anymore than we can control you.
You illicited his wrath, and others, by minimalizing their experiences. Deal with it.
I personally am more than happy for you to post here, if you have anything relevant to say. Stop with the poor me, victim crap. You've been clogging up threads with this shit for over a year. Enough is enough, already.
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Yes I also am more than happy to have you post on here Bullfrog. Its cheap and easy humor.
Honestly if you would just be willing to back up your own comments and answer a few questions now and again it wouldnt ever denegrate into this back and forth bickering.
But sadly that never seems to happen because you are both a coward and a weakling.
Furthermore I am still interested in hearing from you what you believe I made up.
So you let me know Bullfrog, that is of course whenever you get down from the cross and stop playing the victim.
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On 2006-02-18 16:06:00, Deborah wrote:
Please, you and RB start your own thread and go at each other till you get it out of your systems.
That might just be the suggestion of the week.
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-02-18 17:27 ]
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Deb, please fix the quote tag I just screwed up in that last post. Thanks. :grin:
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Sorry. No can do. That's Ginger's dept.
I was wrong. Just realized I can do that!![ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-02-18 17:29 ]
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Tara sees a rat
Racecar
Dog sees god
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Bob
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On 2006-02-18 17:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Bob"
:lol:
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Sorry, this post lost
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Robert---FYI---irregardless---is not correct. You should simply write, regardless---Think about it. I'm sure you will understand---eventually.[/i]
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Wow, you guys really are getting desperate huh? You're printing libel against Deb and questioning my word usage. I guess any straw will do huh?
Oh and irregardless is just as acceptable. Maybe if you worked at an actual school you'd know that.
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Robert---FYI---irregardless---is not correct. You should simply write, regardless---Think about it. I'm sure you will understand---eventually.[/i]
Don't squander your talents here. Kathleen could r-e-a-l-l-y use your help.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=257393#257393 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=257393#257393)
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Not questioning, Robert, correcting. I was simply pointing out a mistake common to those who have not completed a proper High School English class. In addition, I am certain that "Irregardless" is acceptable here. However, I believe that you will discover, if and when you decide to further your education, that it is not acceptable in an academic paper, or as part of an intelligent dialog. [/i]
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...regardless of how adamantly you argue its correctness.
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Oh well in that case allow me to educate you.
from Mirriam Webster...
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
Try harder next time sport.
Irregardless though, let's focus on what really matters. Like you posting libel against Deborah, or the fact that youre too much of a coward to post any of this stuff while youre at work. Instead you have to wait until you get back to your single wide trailer to post. Wouldnt want any of this going back on the Buch now would you?
was simply pointing out a mistake common to those who have not completed a proper High School English class.
Now how would you know about that? You work in a place staffed by unqualifed unlicensed teachers where no kid is ever allowed to fail. I doubt youve ever set foot in a proper class, english or otherwise.
Given the numerous errors on the email sent out by your owner it appears he hasnt either.
I am certain that "Irregardless" is acceptable here. However, I believe that you will discover, if and when you decide to further your education, that it is not acceptable in an academic paper, or as part of an intelligent dialog
Interesting to note since I have undoubtedly gone further in my education than you ever did. I'm sure that's just because of our differing choices in vocation. I chose a major that would allow to become a contributing member of society, while you majored in child abusing tactics.
See you tomorrow night lap dog!
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Not questioning, Robert, correcting. I was simply pointing out a mistake common to those who have not completed a proper High School English class. In addition, I am certain that "Irregardless" is acceptable here. However, I believe that you will discover, if and when you decide to further your education, that it is not acceptable in an academic paper, or as part of an intelligent dialog. [/i]
Ha,Ha,Ha,
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Your Webster quote proved me correct. Read further before you post, Robert. "use REGARDLESS instead"....This is foolish. I apologize for attempting to help you. This is all that you have. Who am I to intrude on your delusion... Farewell.
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Take care lap dog. I know youve got a busy white trash night ahead of you. Plenty of Jerry Springer episodes, trying to seduce your sister, and a tall glass of Kool Aid to wash it all down afterwards.
Whenever you get back though learn to read a little closer.
The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word
Ask for help if you need it son. No shame in that.
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Not questioning, Robert, correcting. I was simply pointing out a mistake common to those who have not completed a proper High School English class. In addition, I am certain that "Irregardless" is acceptable here. However, I believe that you will discover, if and when you decide to further your education, that it is not acceptable in an academic paper, or as part of an intelligent dialog. [/i]
The irony in your statement is the fact that Robert received his education from what facility? HLA. Where did Robert take a "proper High School English class"? HLA. I guess that's what kind of education a child can expect to receive from "teachers" who aren't certified or by using, oh let's say, your HR Director or Spiritual Advisor to teach High School English?
So once you get your foot out of your mouth and your head out of your ass, why don't you go down to Nexity to apply for a job?
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The irony in your statement is the fact that Robert received his education from what facility? HLA. Where did Robert take a "proper High School English class"? HLA. I guess that's what kind of education a child can expect to receive from "teachers" who aren't certified or by using, oh let's say, your HR Director or Spiritual Advisor to teach High School English?
Bitch-slapped again. Truth hurts, doesn't it...?
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Not questioning, Robert, correcting. I was simply pointing out a mistake common to those who have not completed a proper High School English class. In addition, I am certain that "Irregardless" is acceptable here. However, I believe that you will discover, if and when you decide to further your education, that it is not acceptable in an academic paper, or as part of an intelligent dialog. [/i]
The irony in your statement is the fact that Robert received his education from what facility? HLA. Where did Robert take a "proper High School English class"? HLA. I guess that's what kind of education a child can expect to receive from "teachers" who aren't certified or by using, oh let's say, your HR Director or Spiritual Advisor to teach High School English?
So once you get your foot out of your mouth and your head out of your ass, why don't you go down to Nexity to apply for a job?
He was only at HLA a few months, plus he could always take some English classes thru his local high school or GED program to bring him up to high school level. Lots of kids do that.
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This is wonderful - HLA is now releasing personal information of students (assuming your information is correct). This is basis for a lawsuit on its own.
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"Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave..."
Seriously, doesn't HLA staff have some kids to watch or something. Why are they using this stupid topic to carefully avoid the perjury and/or lying to parents evidence?
C'mon, people, buck up and confront the truth, not your former victims! Grow a fucking set already!
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This is wonderful - HLA is now releasing personal information of students (assuming your information is correct). This is basis for a lawsuit on its own.
Nah, just the Who. Spreading confusion. Seems he's implying that a substandard education at a TBS is not a big deal, one can always catch up when they are released from 'treatment' and return to the 'real' world.
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He was only at HLA a few months, plus he could always take some English classes thru his local high school or GED program to bring him up to high school level. Lots of kids do that.
Yeah, like your daughter after you forced her to attend a make believe school that hands out worthless diplomas.
As for my understanding of the English language, the dictionary proved me to be correct, and Sybil to be incorrect.
I'm sure he'll be back later tonight to argue the point further but right now he's busy abusing kids and helping his boss release some "tension".
As to Cindy's claim, he believes he has some information concerning me given to him by Function Junction, an HLA employee. Cindy is too stupid to know he's being used and that the information given is useless, since none of it has proven to be correct.
The thing I'm really curious about is whether or not Sybil is going to squeal on his owners when he gets slapped with a libel suit for all the lies he's printed.
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The dictionary did not prove you correct. It proved that you are using a word, which, in educated circles, is considered on par with "ain't." Once again, the listing ends with "Use Regardless instead." You are wrong, and it would be in your best interest to correct this error. It robs validity from your claims of advanced education, regardless of how adamantly you defend its use.
By the way, look out of your trailer door, I'll wave at you from across the park.
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Sybil back again? Good weekend I hope? I know it's hard for you to find the time to print libel against people what with all the child abusing and sister seducing you have to keep up with. I appreciate any time you can spare.
As for the word "irregardless" the dictionary makes it quite clear that it is in fact a word, it's simply not part of the every day lexicon. I'm sorry if you can't accept that but those are the facts. Now whether youre just too arrogant to accept it, or too stupid to understand it is anyone's guess.
Honestly though I've proven the point, I see no further reason to discuss the matter do you?
Let's get back to what's going to happen once your identity is revealed. Will you rat out your bosses? I'm not so sure to tell you the truth. I mean by this point you've shown something far beyond loyalty. Since working where you work you've had to take on more respondsibility, more hours for less pay, all while having your benefits stripped away one by one. What is it that keeps you so devoted to the cause? Is it because two of your bosses pay "extra" attention to you? Or is it because you have no formal education and your career options are so limited? Or perhaps its because you know of no where else where you can get a job where you can get away with abusing kids so easily?
Relax Sybil, yes your current place of work is going to either be severely overhauled or closed down altogether. Chin up though, there are alot of programs on our list, and I'm sure itll be a long while before we get to many of them. So run along and put some tires back on your Daddy's ol pickup. You know he's not using it ever since he left you and your Momma when you were four for Darlene over at the truck stop. Aw heck if you can stop fighting with your step daddy over your sister's affections long enough maybe he'll help you. Once that's done just strap your Momma into her rocker and hitch up the ol trailer to drive to the next child abusing program.
I'm sure better things are just around the bend for you Sybil.
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Why do you assume that I work at HLA? I am simply a visitor at this site, amazed by the lack of education on exhibit. However, I will posit that if, perhaps, you had applied yourself at HLA you would not appear so sophomoric in your diatribes and baseless attacks. Also, you would read well enough to note that many of your posting, intended to prove your points, actually achieve the opposite. By the way, you will be meeting me soon. Don't fret.
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That sounds like a threat, is it?
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Why do you assume that I work at HLA? I am simply a visitor at this site, amazed by the lack of education on exhibit. However, I will posit that if, perhaps, you had applied yourself at HLA you would not appear so sophomoric in your diatribes and baseless attacks. Also, you would read well enough to note that many of your posting, intended to prove your points, actually achieve the opposite. By the way, you will be meeting me soon. Don't fret.
I don't believe my previous comment to you mentioned HLA. I simply recognize you for the white trash that you are, nothing more. Tell me though, is your threat something I can actually look forward to or just another impotent and meaningless threat like so many you all have made before? On the off chance that it's not, I am truly looking forward to meeting you. Really.
As to your other comments, can you go a bit more into what it means to have applied oneself at HLA? Are you refering simply to academics or therapy as well? Please elaborate for us. Also I wonder if you could point out the opposite effects you claim to have occured due to my comments.
I look forward to hearing back from you when you get off work.