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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 27, 2006, 07:56:00 AM
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We will all be meeting accross the street from the awards dinner at the Golf Country Club parking lot around 4:30 pm on the 25th of Feb.
We are planning to picket until about 8:00 pm.
Bring your own signs.
In attendance at the dinner will be the people mostly responsible for Straight.
We have a new flier to hand out this year but if you want make your own.
The protest will be video taped and broadcast on the internet later that evening.
See you there.
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check out http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com)
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Meeting place is accross the street at Rocky Point Golf Course, 4:30 pm Feb 25
Bring your own sign
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10-4 :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
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And exactly WHAT does this accomplish?
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City??? State???? Where???
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On 2006-01-27 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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And exactly WHAT does this accomplish?"
Ok, I'll try and answer your question. The folks that started straight and allowed the abuse to occur and pressured state officials to turn a blind eye to child abuse are on the Board of Trustees and Board of Directors of the Florida Holocaust Museum. We have asked that the Museum organization remove them from teh Board of Trustees and Directors. So far they have ignored us. The people we want removed are as follows:
Melvin Sembler - Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/Chairman of the Board, Straight Inc.
Walter Loebenberg ? Chairman of Fl Holocaust Museum / President of Straight Foundation, Inc. and currently President of DFAF
Betty Sembler ? Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/ Board of Directors Straight Inc. and Straight Founder and DFAF Chairman.
Bruce Epstein ? Board of Trustees Board of Directors Straight, Inc
D. Jay Snyder ? Registered Agent Florida Holocaust Museum/ Director on Straight, Inc and DFAF
It is hipocrital (sp?) and wrong and it is a slap in the face to straight survivors and the Jewish people. I'm sure you probably knew this and are not a straight survivor.
We will protest and put pressure on the museum organization until our request for their removal is considered and acted upon. The fact that they are on the Board of the Museum disgusts me. Take a look at the mission statement of the Museum. The Museum?s mission as stated on their website is to ?. . . honor the memory of millions of innocent men, women and children who suffered or died in the Holocaust. The Museum is dedicated to teaching members of all races and cultures to recognize the inherent worth and dignity of human life in order to prevent future genocides?.
By allowing the above mentioned people to be on the Board of the Museum dishonors all the jewish people, esp those that survived and died in the Holocaust.
If you were in straight then you know that our worth and dignity was not what they cared about. What was important to the above mentioned folks was the power that came from participating int eh war on drugs. Oh yeah, and the 100 million dollars that flowed from teh program coffers into their pockets and the bank account of teh DFAF.
That is why we do this every year. And that is what we hope to accomplish.
By allowing those involved in Straight
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That's an awful lot to put on a poster board.
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see http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com) it links to a map where the protest will be held, see you there
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On 2006-01-27 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-27 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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And exactly WHAT does this accomplish?"
Ok, I'll try and answer your question. The folks that started straight and allowed the abuse to occur and pressured state officials to turn a blind eye to child abuse are on the Board of Trustees and Board of Directors of the Florida Holocaust Museum. We have asked that the Museum organization remove them from teh Board of Trustees and Directors. So far they have ignored us. The people we want removed are as follows:
Melvin Sembler - Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/Chairman of the Board, Straight Inc.
Walter Loebenberg ? Chairman of Fl Holocaust Museum / President of Straight Foundation, Inc. and currently President of DFAF
Betty Sembler ? Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/ Board of Directors Straight Inc. and Straight Founder and DFAF Chairman.
Bruce Epstein ? Board of Trustees Board of Directors Straight, Inc
D. Jay Snyder ? Registered Agent Florida Holocaust Museum/ Director on Straight, Inc and DFAF
It is hipocrital (sp?) and wrong and it is a slap in the face to straight survivors and the Jewish people. I'm sure you probably knew this and are not a straight survivor.
We will protest and put pressure on the museum organization until our request for their removal is considered and acted upon. The fact that they are on the Board of the Museum disgusts me. Take a look at the mission statement of the Museum. The Museum?s mission as stated on their website is to ?. . . honor the memory of millions of innocent men, women and children who suffered or died in the Holocaust. The Museum is dedicated to teaching members of all races and cultures to recognize the inherent worth and dignity of human life in order to prevent future genocides?.
By allowing the above mentioned people to be on the Board of the Museum dishonors all the jewish people, esp those that survived and died in the Holocaust.
If you were in straight then you know that our worth and dignity was not what they cared about. What was important to the above mentioned folks was the power that came from participating int eh war on drugs. Oh yeah, and the 100 million dollars that flowed from teh program coffers into their pockets and the bank account of teh DFAF.
That is why we do this every year. And that is what we hope to accomplish.
By allowing those involved in Straight "
ummm - you've done this(protest) before. I don't think it's working. And they obvisouly know that you'll be there again this year.
I was in a similar program (LIFE), and was never abused, tortured, humialiated, etc. (Nor did I witness any of that) and to even slightly compare yourselves to victims of the holocaust is repulsive.
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On 2006-01-28 10:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
I was in a similar program (LIFE), and was never abused, tortured, humialiated, etc. (Nor did I witness any of that) and to even slightly compare yourselves to victims of the holocaust is repulsive.
That you, Wendy?Harmlessly passing your time in the grasslands away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
you better watchout,
there may be dogs about.
I've looked over Jordan, and have seen.
Things are not what they seem.
--Roger Waters 1977
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Your Miss are still brainwashed!
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On 2006-01-28 10:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-27 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-27 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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And exactly WHAT does this accomplish?"
Ok, I'll try and answer your question. The folks that started straight and allowed the abuse to occur and pressured state officials to turn a blind eye to child abuse are on the Board of Trustees and Board of Directors of the Florida Holocaust Museum. We have asked that the Museum organization remove them from teh Board of Trustees and Directors. So far they have ignored us. The people we want removed are as follows:
Melvin Sembler - Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/Chairman of the Board, Straight Inc.
Walter Loebenberg ? Chairman of Fl Holocaust Museum / President of Straight Foundation, Inc. and currently President of DFAF
Betty Sembler ? Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/ Board of Directors Straight Inc. and Straight Founder and DFAF Chairman.
Bruce Epstein ? Board of Trustees Board of Directors Straight, Inc
D. Jay Snyder ? Registered Agent Florida Holocaust Museum/ Director on Straight, Inc and DFAF
It is hipocrital (sp?) and wrong and it is a slap in the face to straight survivors and the Jewish people. I'm sure you probably knew this and are not a straight survivor.
We will protest and put pressure on the museum organization until our request for their removal is considered and acted upon. The fact that they are on the Board of the Museum disgusts me. Take a look at the mission statement of the Museum. The Museum?s mission as stated on their website is to ?. . . honor the memory of millions of innocent men, women and children who suffered or died in the Holocaust. The Museum is dedicated to teaching members of all races and cultures to recognize the inherent worth and dignity of human life in order to prevent future genocides?.
By allowing the above mentioned people to be on the Board of the Museum dishonors all the jewish people, esp those that survived and died in the Holocaust.
If you were in straight then you know that our worth and dignity was not what they cared about. What was important to the above mentioned folks was the power that came from participating int eh war on drugs. Oh yeah, and the 100 million dollars that flowed from teh program coffers into their pockets and the bank account of teh DFAF.
That is why we do this every year. And that is what we hope to accomplish.
By allowing those involved in Straight "
ummm - you've done this(protest) before. I don't think it's working. And they obvisouly know that you'll be there again this year.
I was in a similar program (LIFE), and was never abused, tortured, humialiated, etc. (Nor did I witness any of that) and to even slightly compare yourselves to victims of the holocaust is repulsive. "
where in the response did I compare straight to the holocaust? It is hypocritical for a museum dedicated to recognizing the dignity and worth of humans to have people on the board of trustees who were involved in the systematic abuse of children; and when reported abuses were coming forth, state officials were pressured by threat of job loss to look the other way and renew straight's HRS license; and I never said anything about LIFE. If it helped and you weren't abused then good. I wasn't involved in the LIFE program, nor do I care about it, other than Helen Petermann worked there and from first hand expierences, I think that woman is a bitch and I hope I never see her again.
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Oh I will be at the picket, it's just that lady who said we were crazy for protesting is brainwashed still by her stay at Peterman's "Life".
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his years protest will be the biggest yet, wait till old man Sembler see's this.
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The pressure came from the same people (Sembler et al) to state officials. The HRS Secretary got a call from state legislators that got a call from Sembler who was and is financially connected to them. Money talks. BTW - Straight channeled approx 100 million dollars through the corp over the years of operation, that were then transferred to DFAF when the straight foundation closed and after DFAF was incorporated.
I fully support the holocaust museum and it's mission. I believe what was done to the jewish people during the holocaust years is the most horrible thing that happened in the 20th century, possibly in the history of the world. Hell, I'm of jewish heritage. They should be removed. It is wrong that they are on the Board.
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thestraights.com will be posting updated video shot on Friday of the picket site and meeting place accross the street.
Lets have 100 protesters this year!
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Hi Lennie!! Will you be there too? :wave: :wave:
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Oh yes Lenny Englander will be there he's on the board of trustees.
He flipped out in Bradbury's deposition when Bradbury called Straight a Holocaust under questioning. I got the depo from the clerk of the court Lenny's dumb ass filed it.
Lenny is nothing but a guy who know his client Mel has a big bank account is is going to take Mel for all he can.
Bradbury held his ground and really stood up for up all, Bradbury even called the Semblers "creeps".
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lets all show up and then go for beers afterwards!!!
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I predict Lenny will lose his law license when the pumpgate case is over.
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The main issue will be >>>>>>>>
Everyone who has attended the conferences should come to this protest, shut up and stand up!
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If you are looking for a former Straight prisoner show up at the protest Feb 25, 2006
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Sorry, this post lost
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this weekend; come on out for the fun
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gotta agree here... I was in Straight, but to compare having been there to having suffered Nazi Germany is an unfair comparison to say the least.
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Drugdolph Hitroll, where are you? :question:
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well they both dehumanized people, just like now they dehumanize the "terrorists" so they can torture them and noone will mind or do anything. they could not really "kill" US kids because their parents wanted a certain finished product, that's what they paid for. make it harsh enough to break the kids' minds but not outright kill them and the parents will be so happy with the outcome they won't notice a child just got really hurt.
it is also frightening that the archictects of social control (straight incorporated) are on the board of directors of the holocaust museum, because nazi germany was all about social control!!!!!!!
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thank you, have a seat.
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i don't particularly like sitting down all that much, thank you very much anyways
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:tup:
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On 2006-02-20 08:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"gotta agree here... I was in Straight, but to compare having been there to having suffered Nazi Germany is an unfair comparison to say the least."
No, I am sorry, you are incorrect. We are not comparing the straight experience to the holocaust. Straight Inc was and is a hate group. The people that are on the Board of Trustees of the Museum ran straight and were liable in keeping it open and the model of treatment active for so many years. They supported and support a hate group. We want those people be removed from the Board of Trustees. We fully support the Florida Holocaust museum and their mission. We ask that they adhere to the mission of the organization which is ?. . . honor the memory of millions of innocent men, women and children who suffered or died in the Holocaust. The Museum is dedicated to teaching members of all races and cultures to recognize the inherent worth and dignity of human life in order to prevent future genocides?.
Come and join us.
[ This Message was edited by: Eudora on 2006-02-20 16:55 ]
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There's a valid comparison to be made here. The people who founded and ran Straight (Seed graduates and parents) also have something to do with publicly funding, founding and running that damned boot camp in Bay County where they beat Martin Lee Anderson to death for the crime of joy riding in his grandmother's car.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... nnell+dfaf (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2006-04%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=guy+tunnell+dfaf)
A lot of people are going to take for granted that Martin died because he was black. That probably didn't help him as he stood before the Bay County judge who sentenced him to receive a little Brother Jeb!'s promised $100,000,000 in juvenile rehabilitation. But it wasn't the only reason. TOUGHLOVE is a fucking hate group. DARE is HitlerJugend. Straight and the rest of the troubled parent industry are gulags well on the order of Stalin's.
These Nazis have no business pretending to represent what the Holocaust Museum stands for. They're charlatans grabbing the Rabbi and crying sanctuary. I think what makes stepcraft survivors different is that we have participated in the Asch Experiment writ large, and know what we (and others)are capable of in that situation.
Johnny G.
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Folks, I wish I could make the trip down there. Sounds like a blast. But I can't. So I'd ask you one favor. Look into the connections between Bay County Boot Camp and DFAF and consider makeing that a primary focus of your message.
Honest to God, if this had all ended 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago, I wouldn't be making noise like this. The ONLY reason I am is because it's not ended, it's progressing. Now the staffers have 9mm side arms and the false cred that comes w/ the badge. And they've got unwitting 9yo DARE snitches under cultivation in something like 80% of school districts.
They're MORE dangerous now than ever they were.
I don't care what they did to me and my family. I worry about what they might do to my kids and grandkids.You have rights atecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe.
John Adams
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These Nazis have no business pretending to represent what the Holocaust Museum stands for. They're charlatans grabbing the Rabbi and crying sanctuary.
RIGHT THE FUCK ON. :tup:
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meet across the street in the public golf course parking lot.
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getting closer
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Very Nice. I'll be there. :tup:
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tick tock tick tock...Sembler time!!
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Protest is a go, see everyone who has responded at 4:30 pm Saturday Feb 25, 2006 at Rocky Point Golf Course accross from the Awards Event!
If you need directions the address and map are on http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com)
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we have a number of picket signs if you need one but please try and bring your own
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If you need directions let us know
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In this protest we will not be comparing Straight to a Holocaust but calling Straight what it is a hate group.
Our flier will be posted Friday join our protest
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The 2006 Awards Banquet will be held at the A La Carte Event Pavilion, 4050 Dana Shores Drive, Tampa. Here is a map. Protesters should meet around 4:30 PM in the parking lot of the Golf Country Club across the street from the pavilion. They plan to picket until around 8:00 PM. They request that you bring your own signs. They will have a new flier to hand out but state that volunteers are welcome to make their own. The protest will be video taped and broadcast on the Internet later that evening.
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The flier has been completed 400 copies are ready for the protest and I'll try and post it here for eveyone to see.
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The flier is being posted on http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com) shortly
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People are starting to arrive from out of town for todays protest, weather looks like it will clear and warm for the protest.
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tacky tacky, low class move. not the appropriate venue for the cause.
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Kiss it we are now preparing to head to the picket site will be there in 20 minutes.
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kkkkkkkkkkkk
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Posted: 2006-02-25 14:20:00
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Portesters passed out fliers to members of the ROTC who are in attendance at the Holocaust Awards Dinner and the fliers WERE IMMEDIATLEY TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM BY banquet staff.
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Two cops rae at the protest site, the protesters are using a blow horn, the cops told them to stop, but the portesters have continued, many people are arriving and the protester are handing out fliers and standing up for the cause
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Key note speaker Jon Voight has just arrive for his third year in attendance
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On 2006-01-28 10:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-27 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-27 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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And exactly WHAT does this accomplish?"
Ok, I'll try and answer your question. The folks that started straight and allowed the abuse to occur and pressured state officials to turn a blind eye to child abuse are on the Board of Trustees and Board of Directors of the Florida Holocaust Museum. We have asked that the Museum organization remove them from teh Board of Trustees and Directors. So far they have ignored us. The people we want removed are as follows:
Melvin Sembler - Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/Chairman of the Board, Straight Inc.
Walter Loebenberg ?Chairman of Fl Holocaust Museum / President of Straight Foundation, Inc. and currently President of DFAF
Betty Sembler ?Board of Trustees FL Holocaust Museum/ Board of Directors Straight Inc. and Straight Founder and DFAF Chairman.
Bruce Epstein ?Board of Trustees Board of Directors Straight, Inc
D. Jay Snyder ?Registered Agent Florida Holocaust Museum/ Director on Straight, Inc and DFAF
It is hipocrital (sp?) and wrong and it is a slap in the face to straight survivors and the Jewish people. I'm sure you probably knew this and are not a straight survivor.
We will protest and put pressure on the museum organization until our request for their removal is considered and acted upon. The fact that they are on the Board of the Museum disgusts me. Take a look at the mission statement of the Museum. The Museum?s mission as stated on their website is to ? . . honor the memory of millions of innocent men, women and children who suffered or died in the Holocaust. The Museum is dedicated to teaching members of all races and cultures to recognize the inherent worth and dignity of human life in order to prevent future genocides?
By allowing the above mentioned people to be on the Board of the Museum dishonors all the jewish people, esp those that survived and died in the Holocaust.
If you were in straight then you know that our worth and dignity was not what they cared about. What was important to the above mentioned folks was the power that came from participating int eh war on drugs. Oh yeah, and the 100 million dollars that flowed from teh program coffers into their pockets and the bank account of teh DFAF.
That is why we do this every year. And that is what we hope to accomplish.
By allowing those involved in Straight "
ummm - you've done this(protest) before. I don't think it's working. And they obvisouly know that you'll be there again this year.
I was in a similar program (LIFE), and was never abused, tortured, humialiated, etc. (Nor did I witness any of that) and to even slightly compare yourselves to victims of the holocaust is repulsive. "
Then you should not attend the protest,since you dont agree for what it stands for.
If you want,you can "counter protest" the protest.This would be a good way to get public exposure for your position.
Welcome all,but you have to bring your own protest sign.
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On 2006-02-20 08:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"gotta agree here... I was in Straight, but to compare having been there to having suffered Nazi Germany is an unfair comparison to say the least."
I was instructed to "contact The Holocoust Museum for help" when I went to local officals in Sarasota Florida to report the abuse I suffered when I was being held against my will at The L.I.F.E. Program in Sarasota.Go figure!
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Very nice vids on http://www.thestraights.com (http://www.thestraights.com)