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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: dreamer on January 17, 2006, 01:08:00 PM
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My boyfriend was a victim/prisoner of straight, inc in stoughton for 35 days. During that time he copped out and was caught and dragged back 3 times. I dont need to tell you guys the abuse from the group he took for attempted cop outs. He finally got wise that he might be able to escape at 18 and he pretended he loved it for the final 12 days. On his 18th birthday (day 35) he took his seat in the front row. The moment group started he held up 3 finger - "W" for withdraw and when the 5th phaser came over he said "Im 18 and I want out". The brought him a pice of paper and a clip board and told him to wrte down what he wanted. He wrote "I am being held against my will and I want out Immediatly". He said they kep trying to hold him in the office and he basically fought his way out as they tried to detain him and get a court order to keep him in. He ran out of the parking lot just in time to see his father and brother come roaring up around the corner. He escaped and eventually convinced his parents it was not for him. Reading these posts help me understand because there is a lot he wont talk about. I feel for all of you. I saw a video of people "motivating" and it was like watching a bad horror movie - like invasion of the body snatchers.
On another note - someone else from Straight passed away. For those of you from Stoughton, MA - if you remember Chris Bartoloni (maybe 87 - 89)I am sorry to tell you he died Friday or Saturday.
If anyone from Stoughton cares to share their experiences - please respond.
Thanks
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Thanks for your thoughtful post. :smile:
I remember a few folks from Boston from before the Boston program opened. We were all in VA. It's way cool that you come here and post and are interested enough to care... orrrr... care enough to be interested. Your boyfriends' story is crazy but rings true. Peace 'n' strength.
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I didn't know the guy, but that's so sad to hear. He was lucky have you.
Come the millennium,
month 12,
in the home of greatest power,
the village idiot will come forth to
be acclaimed the leader.
--Nostradamus
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Thanks for the feedback.
My boyfriends buddy went to Straight in Virginia first before Boston opened. I think he went in around 86. Last name Jones. He came to Boston when Boston opened as a 5th phaser I think. He still knows all the songs and will sing them on cue. They used to have to sing "we are the world, we are the children" at open mic night. My sweetheart is now 37 and still is afraid of Straight.
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Hi. I was in Straight Virginia and stoughton. My name is Denisha. I was frinds with Bartoloni and Jones, as we were all from Scituate, ma.
I'm glad you're talking about this. It's so creepy, but necessary to have these discussions.
Denisha
Squirrel@nednugent.com
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Anyone remember a girl named Julie M. from Stoughton? She was there around 85 or 86.
Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones
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I have heard of Jones. Everyone says he is an oka good guy. I think he is married with kids now. I also know a Matt N. from Braintree - maybe 5th phaser? Chris Bartoloni passed away. He was buried Friday. Very sad - only 36. Straight sounds to me worse than prison. I hope you are at peace with your straight experiences. It must have been way tougher for a girl. God bless.
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I was also a survivor of Straight stoughton. I was in from 88' to 91' so "been there done that". Just want you all to know what ever it is you've been through and are still going through I understand. I too was traumatized. I still have nightmares of been put back in there even recently. I'm just glad it's over. I still have friends I keep intouch w/. I'm new at this though so feel free to reply.
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Straight was a nightmare that haunts so many while thy are awake. I heard that in Mass it was licensed as a foster home - not a rehab. Lots of articles compare it to North Korean war time brain washing techniques. I am surprised so few know about it but I guess it is not something you can talk about with anyone. 1988 - 1991?Thats a long time. Did you actually 7th step? Did you believe the hype? Do you feel they helped or harmed you? Hope these questions aren't to personal...
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Hi Dreamer
I don't mean to be nosy, but it doesn't seem like you were in Straight. I'm just surprised that anyone outside a) knows about it, and b) cares. No offense.
I was in Stoughton with all the kids from Scituate, five of us, me, Bartoloni, Jones, my brother Sean, and Tommy Russo. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have in particular, since you seem to want information.
I am not overly angry about it anymore. Honestly, it was like being in a war. We did what we had to in order to survive the thought reprogramming scheme. Read George Orwell 1984, or Animal Farm. It's pretty similar stuff. I escaped. I wont let those fascisits have any more of my life, so I try not to dwell on it.
Thanks for being an outsider interested in this. I think so many of us feel like noone knows or cares about what happened to us in the warehouse of systematic abuse.
Please write me at Squirrel@nednugent.com if I want you to ask any questions.
Denisha (Virginin 84-85, and Stoughton 85-87)
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Hi Dreamer:
I was in Stoughton 85-87. I was with four other kids from Scituate, we all just got sucked up one day and loced away for a long time.
It was me (Denisha), Sean, (my bro), Jones, Bartoloni and Russo.
Listen, if you need any answers please e-mail me. Squirrel@nednugent.com You seem interested in the horrors of Straight, which is more than I can say for the rest of the world.
Did you go to Bartoloni's wake? I cried for four days, and finally decided I couldn't go, so I went out to the end of the island I live on, the part that faces Europe, and said my goodbyes, and blew them off into sea.
Hope your honey is well. I know how he feels.
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Hello,
Recently I have been looking online at info about Straight, which I haven't done before. I graduated in 89 from New England, and went on to be staff there for a couple years. As I hope you can imagine, its with great mixed emotions that I remember. I understand and empathize with the pain and trauma people experienced there, at times it was beyond words. It took me years to adjust, and unlearn how I had been taught to "help people". I do need to say that the program saved my life. It radically changed my parents life as well. I have been sober for 17 years, and achieved things I never thought I would. I do attribute alot of my success in life to the 15 months I was at Straight. One thing that was different was that I went in at 19 by my own choice. I think that makes all the difference in the world. I truely wanted to be there, because I needed what they had to get my life back. I'd love to talk to people about it, or hear other comments. I'm reaching out in the spirit of peace and love.
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Thank you Denisha. Thank you very much. I am trying to understand the experiences my love had in that hateful place. I have a lot to learn but I am not sure how far to go. Too learn to much may violate secrets he is not ready to share.
I think anyone who is involved with someone who suffered Straight should care about it. It is like having gone to war - and I believe that place left deep scars; hence this website and all the others. He talks about it but in small doses... I love him and am interested in all the experiences he had (good or bad) that made him the man he is today.
I will save your email if that is ok - and will be writing soon.
Thanks for letting a Straight "Spouse" share in your experiences.
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I too am sorry to hear about your loss here in Kentucky. This form of abuse we are trying to understand and stand against probably played a part. Is there anybody who has heard of possibilities unlimited in Lexington. Am I the only one who has found reached out or have there been others? I would like that personal feeling of talking to someone who was actually there as I am still to this day a prisoner there in a way. I walked out one day sometime after i turned 18. We were not allowed any access to papers TV or radios in order to disorient us. I told everyone I knew what a twisted hole it was and I know that it has closed-amidst rumors of a murder/suicide. I don't really KNOW. Forget anonymity for a miniute- doeas anyone know if something happened to Richard Stanton? I think things have been kept unusually quiet about possibilities, maybe this is why George Ross chooses to reside here- this is safe haven for perverted pop psychologists!
I know that our bodies were made to thrive only in pure air, and the scenes in which pure air is found.
-- John Muir
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.... We were not allowed any access to papers TV or radios in order to disorient us. ...
Oh really? But none of these programs were related? http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =30#133649 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=11812&forum=7&start=30#133649)
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy
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Well, I can only find 3 mentions in my database, aside from your own.
site:thestraights.com "possibilities unlimited" (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-04,GGLG:en&q=site%3Athestraights%2Ecom+%22possibilities+unlimited%22)
Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
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http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?m ... &user=3449 (http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=3449)
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well it was a long time ago, the late eighties. I know that the place closed after i left, it's just that nobody would take my warnings seriously so what was the reason? There would have had to be a legal action. They touted the program so highly.I finally met another kid who was a newcomer within two weeks of my ordeal many years later who told me that Richard had commited suicide or lured a someone to the site and murdered them. Niavely I believed that it was just an isolated tragedy. Now I realize that this is a much more sinister chain of child abuse.
Web pages are like babies -- creation involves a level of enthusiasm that does not necessarily carry over into maintenance.
--Joe Chew
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http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?m ... &user=3449 (http://fornits.com/wwf/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=3449) Check it out, Staughton ppl. Old friend o'yourn.
Always try to do things in chronological order; it's less confusing that way.
--Unknown
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Good for you. It's hard. I get flashbacks too, though I try to live a normal life. It's hard to tell anyone about it too. My husband gets freaked out and can't really believe the wierd things I tell him. Sometimes I wonder if some of it is my imagination, but then I come to this site and realize everyone else has the same memories.
The best revenge is to be well. Karma will take care of the Semblers and their minions.
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If you want to induce flashbacks eat lots of vitamin c and excersize your ass off. anyone else remember those excersize raps where people started staring at the walls and than got yelled at for it?
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To Deamer:
I feel for you having to live with someone who survived straight. There are certain things that trigger very severe reactions in me, and it's impossible for him to understand why I get afraid of confrontation, or even him blocking a door while talking to me. I don't like being questioned, or forced to work out an issue. I hate flourescent lights, and I will never again eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
The most imoprtant thing is freedom. No interrogation or accusations. Let him feel free to walk away if he needs to. My poor husband. He's wonderful about all of it, but it must sound like a lie to him. It's too wierd to believe.
I wish you the best.
Denisha