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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 12, 2006, 10:06:00 PM

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
Who would like to start first?

-survivor :smile:
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 12, 2006, 10:55:00 PM
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On 2006-01-12 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Who would like to start first?



-survivor :smile:"


Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Can we even calculate how many, or is there too many to calculate?

-DP :smile:

Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Helena Handbasket on January 12, 2006, 11:55:00 PM
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On 2006-01-12 19:55:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

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On 2006-01-12 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Who would like to start first?





-survivor :smile:"




Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Can we even calculate how many, or is there too many to calculate?



-DP :smile:

Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

"


Too many to calculate.  But for starters - how about the denial of mandatory education (first two phases), denial of the right to privacy or cruel and unusual punishment?

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves

--Ronald Reagan

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
How about illegal incarceration?
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Antigen on January 13, 2006, 09:16:00 PM
How about criminal harassment and slander?

Faith is believing something you know ain't true.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 13, 2006, 10:53:00 PM
We are off to a good start here....
Here is another one towards the calculation: How about KHK sending children to what they call "Host homes", but what they really are are FOSTER HOMES, yet the homes that they send the children to are actually unlicensed to be foster homes. That is definitely breaking the law. KHK has no permit authorized by the state of Ohio to be a "referral agency" for fosters homes....and they are not an "outpatient" treatment center considering that "treatment" is also conducted and carried on at these "Host Homes" as per the programs rules. They are also not an inpatient facility b/c of the fact that the kids never sleep at the building. SO, they are breaking the law by acting as a "referral agency" for foster homes when they have no license or authority to do so.

here here!

warm regards,
-DP  :smokin:

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
--Herbert Spencer

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 13, 2006, 11:01:00 PM
So far, let's see here...we have a tally of Seven laws broken.....hmmmm ...not very good KHK, shame on you!

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.
Gandhi

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
How about neglect, which is a form of abuse. :skull:
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 14, 2006, 05:16:00 PM
Ye are correct! Neglect is a form of abuse, is KHK neglecting it's "patients"? They did when I was there.....right down to letting girls sit in their period blood flooded pants without letting them get clean.....sick and nasty and just plain neglectful and wrong!

Are they still using this neglect as a form of what they insist as being "positive peer pressure"?

So the law breaking tally for KHK if the neglect thing still exists is up to 8 now.

-DP ::mecry::

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.
-- Ben Franklin At the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.

[ This Message was edited by: Deprogrammed on 2006-01-14 14:20 ]
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
Is there a law against minors being watched while showering, defecating, and urinating? It wasn't unusual to have an oldcomer over the age of eighteen looking on. As an adult, I think about this often. What if I were to force my way into a bathroom occupied by a minor and then tell him that he could not shower or use the toilet without my supervision? Imagine the police being informed of this behavior. Not only would I get arrested, I'd be designated as a sex predator as well.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2006, 09:25:00 PM
Here?s something else that just occurred to me. I live in Massachusetts. In the summer of 2004, a local contractor and landlord was caught filming his tenants (a single mother and her children) in the bathroom of one of his properties. One of the children had discovered the camera in a register vent, and the police were able to trace the cable directly to the man's house. He later committed suicide. The newspapers stated that there are no specific laws against filming adults (unless sound is used), but filming minors is definitely a criminal offense. Now consider the physical proximity of an adult oldcomer in a bathroom and how much more intrusive his or her presence is than a voyeur?s surveillance system.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Helena Handbasket on January 15, 2006, 05:11:00 AM
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

Who said it?

 

You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence.

--Charles Austin Beard

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 12:06:00 AM
Well hell yes! Don't ye think when ye are sent to a program like Straight Inc. or KHK where they strip search ye before going into group......being forced to strip off your clothes in front of like 4-5 other kids/adults (especially being restrained and strip searched) against your will isn't some type of molestation of sorts? Definitely a proxemis violation....
Also the bathroom....meaning non privacy in the bathrooms....and oldcomer watching a childs naked body while showering, and oldcomer watching while a child has a bowel movement or while urinating....and how about staff watching time-outters masturbating on a tiny video camera that is linked to staff office? What is that considered....????????

-DP :scared:  :???:
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Helena Handbasket on January 16, 2006, 02:23:00 PM
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Also the bathroom....meaning non privacy in the bathrooms....and oldcomer watching a childs naked body while showering, and oldcomer watching while a child has a bowel movement or while urinating....and how about staff watching time-outters masturbating on a tiny video camera that is linked to staff office? What is that considered....????????



-DP :scared:  :???: "


Just think about the trouble a parent in their own home would be in by employing the same practices - even with a child of the same sex.  

There was an article some years ago - it might have been in FL - about a woman who was brought up on abuse charges for continuing to breast feed her 12 year old.  Don't know the outcome of that.

But, it's loosely relvant in the sense that yes, you watch your four year old do poopies and praise him for it - that's not abuse.  But invading your fourTEEN year old's privacy while he/she does poopies is quite something else... like sick.

Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundation, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.
James Madison

[ This Message was edited by: Helena Handbasket on 2006-01-16 11:25 ]
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
KHK continues to defend the practice of bathroom monitoring because of suicide concerns, although now Penny Walker claims that no direct supervision is required. Oldcomers, she claims, now stand outside the ajar door of the bathroom, although conflicting reports have surfaced. We know that it's business as usual, and that one's business is not his or her private business as long as KHK has any say in the matter.

The enforced supervision of bathroom time is perhaps the most troubling aspect of the program's protocol. The claim that newcomers are a suicide risk and must be watched at all times is at best out of synch with other facilities that utilize healthy, non-abusive models of treatment.

Having spent time in KHK and then a hospital setting drug treatment facility, I can state with certainty that bathroom monitoring of this degree is not the norm. The hospital facility in which I spent six weeks had communal bathrooms with toilet and shower stalls. This program was very structured, and one was monitored frequently. Yet the qualified people who designed the protocol saw no need to trample upon basic human dignity because of suicide fears.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Helena Handbasket on January 16, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
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On 2006-01-16 14:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"KHK continues to defend the practice of bathroom monitoring because of suicide concerns...


Would someone please explain these suicide concerns to me?  Especially since you've


Maybe someone who's attained awareness might tell us how in the world you justify a "Suicide Watch" in a toilet when one can't have enough privacy before or after to even stash a tampon to avoid having to ask?

Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: TimeBomb on January 16, 2006, 06:17:00 PM
And I wonder why anyone would even want to commit suicide in such a positive program that builds self-esteem.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Antigen on January 16, 2006, 06:36:00 PM
What's the difference between what KHK does and what this guy did?

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Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 06:38:00 PM
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On 2006-01-16 15:17:00, TimeBomb wrote:

"And I wonder why anyone would even want to commit suicide in such a positive program that builds self-esteem."


An excellent point. Bathroom monitoring to this degree brings into serious question the program's merit. If suicide is this much of a concern, then what about the program drives a patient there in the first place?

The severity of supervision is damning. They show that they are terribly concerned and must override all privacy in the name of client security. It's like a race against time, trying to keep your miserable starving lab animal from finding a way to eat poison and terminate its own misery.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Antigen on January 16, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
Yeah, come to think of it, I wonder how the rents ta' day manage to swallow the cover story? I mean, in the `70's and (to some degree) the `80's, our rents probably took Art and Virgil's word for it that MJ withdraw causes suicide. But now? NOW???

I just don't know what these people are thinking.

Save our planet; it's the only one with chocolate!

--Andi, domestic goddess

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Helena Handbasket on January 16, 2006, 07:02:00 PM
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On 2006-01-16 15:36:00, Antigen wrote:

"What's the difference between what KHK does and what this guy did?
.....

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbc ... /510090392 (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/NEWS01/510090392)


NOTHING, on the surface.. but I think the motivation is different.

KHK and the rest of the klan believed they were doing "good" work in saving kids from themselves, even when the thinking part of their brains told them their job was all bullshit.

"Officer Scott" is far removed, although the outcome was the same.  Don't know his motivation, but it really looks like a thrillseeking voyeur undertaking.  He's not striking me as a true believer... maybe a "troubled individual" ( :grin: ), but I'm not getting the feeling he knew anything about this girl other than that she gave him change for a cheeseburger, and he developed a sick fixation.

To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
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Maybe someone who's attained awareness might tell us how in the world you justify a "Suicide Watch" in a toilet when one can't have enough privacy before or after to even stash a tampon to avoid having to ask?


 We all know the answer already. Suicide is not the primary concern any more than the Ministry of Love's mission is to give love back to a thought criminal. The real purpose of bathroom monitoring is to push to the furthest degree possible the undermining of self reliance and self identity. The person is reduced to the toddler stage, while the bathroom monitor becomes a kind of new parent looking on. One is forced to accept the symbolism of the predicament. The ownership of his or her most natural and private functions is assured. Lesson after lesson of belittlement quashes the sense of self-ownership and reinforces the program's ownership of the non-individual.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
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On 2006-01-16 15:47:00, Antigen wrote:

"Yeah, come to think of it, I wonder how the rents ta' day manage to swallow the cover story? I mean, in the `70's and (to some degree) the `80's, our rents probably took Art and Virgil's word for it that MJ withdraw causes suicide. But now? NOW???



I just don't know what these people are thinking.

Save our planet; it's the only one with chocolate!

--Andi, domestic goddess


"


Could you explain what "MJ" stands for? I'm also not sure that I understand the term "rents" here. Thank you.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Antigen on January 16, 2006, 07:39:00 PM
MJ = Marijuana
Rents = short for parents

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.
-- Dave Barry

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2006, 07:43:00 PM
Of course! The "MJ withdrawal" sounded to me like it had been lifted from the New England Journal of Medicine. It occured to me seconds after posting what it stood for.
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 17, 2006, 08:04:00 PM
Ginger,
These KHK people are obviously only thinking about the almighty dollar , once again unfortunately.....The abusive, systematic set-up of the program itself can make a child who feels helpless and trapped there not want to live anymore , therefore contemplating suicide.

Also
I saw that bit about "officer Scott" making that girl strip search over the phone.....That guy got caught and busted...so why is it allowed in KHK....truly sickening isn't it?

Why is this irresponsible staff behavior allowed in the name of treatment.......but if ye do it in "the outside world" ye are going to jail? I will tell ye why, outside it is "wrong"...inside "treatment" "abusive treatment" these people will sacrifice anything to "get that lying druggie STRAIGHT".....completely ridiculous....

Noone should be abused, molested, stripped of their human dignity, and forever scarred in the name of any kind of Medical treatment, whether it be a drug treatment or cancer treatment...and that is my final answer!.

 ::soapbox::

KHK needs to check itself and get a clue ...the phone has been ringing for 23 years now Penny, answer it for god's sake!

-DP :smokin:

Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;

He who would search for perls must dive below.

Prolougue (from preface to
the Panther Book)
John Dryden, All for Love, Prolougue

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 17, 2006, 08:05:00 PM
So, what is the law breaking tally now people?
Who has the count?

love ye!
-DP

I would not let my children go to SW anymore than I would let them sleep in Michael Jackson's bed. I don't care if he was aquitted, it just ain't right.

AtomicAnt

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
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On 2006-01-17 17:05:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

"So, what is the law breaking tally now people?

Who has the count?



love ye!

-DP

I would not let my children go to SW anymore than I would let them sleep in Michael Jackson's bed. I don't care if he was aquitted, it just ain't right.

AtomicAnt

"


It was at eight before I started the bathroom monitoring discussion. How many violations of the law does the bathroom issue add to this number?
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 17, 2006, 08:24:00 PM
Well I think that we can confidently add the tally as nine b/c of the fact that at times there are actual adult(oldcomers) looking on as a child client is using the bathroom, which would make it something like gross imposition of a minor maybe?

Someone help me with this particular law here...
Ginger? Helena?

-dp :scared:

Every man thinks God is on his side. The rich and powerful know he is.
--Jean Anouilh, French dramatist and playwright

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 17, 2006, 08:33:00 PM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-7
C. Sexual Battery
1. ELEMENTS OF SEXUAL BATTERY
ORC 2907.03
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-8
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
a. Engage in sexual conduct?
b. With another person not the spouse of the
offender when any of the following apply:
1. Offender knowingly coerces the other person
to submit by any means that would prevent
resistance by a person of ordinary resolution
OR
2. Offender knows that the other person?s ability
to appraise the nature of or control his or her
conduct is substantially impaired
OR
3. Offender knows the other person submits
because he or she is unaware the act is being
committed
OR
4. Offender knows the other person submits
because s/he mistakenly identifies the
offender as his or her spouse
OR
5. Offender is other person?s natural or adoptive
parent, step-parent, guardian, custodian or
person in loco parentis
OR
6. Other person is in custody of law or is a
patient in a hospital or other institution AND
offender has supervisory or disciplinary
authority over the person
7. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed by a
school governed by state board of education,
the other person is enrolled/attends that
school and the offender is not enrolled in that
school
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-9
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
8. The other person is a minor enrolled in an
institution of higher education and the offender
is a teacher, administrator, coach or other
person in authority employed by that institution
9. The other person is a minor and the offender
is the other person?s coach, instructor, scout
troop leader or person with temporary or
occasional disciplinary control over the other
person
10. The offender is a mental health professional?
and?
a. The victim is a patient?
and?
b. The offender induces the victim to submit
by falsely representing that sexual conduct
is necessary for mental health treatment
purposes
2. Degree of offense:
a. F-3 in all circumstances;
b. Mandatory sentence of at least 3 years
3. Interpretation of Elements
a. Person ?In Loco Parentis? is a person who has
assumed the dominant parental role and is relied
upon by the child for support
b. A teacher or coach is not considered to be ?in loco
parentis?
c. A POLICE OFFICER WHO ENGAGES IN
SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A PRISONER IS
GUILTY OF SEXUAL BATTERY, EVEN IF THE
SEXUAL CONDUCT WAS CONSENSUAL
D. Unlawful Sexual Conduct with a minor
1. ELEMENTS OF UNLAWFUL SEXUAL CONDUCT
WITH A MINOR
State v. Moggle (1993) 67
Ohio St. 3d 31
SPO #1
ORC 2907.04
ORC 2907.04
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-10
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
a. A person, 18 years old or older?
b. Engages in sexual conduct?
c. With another person who is not his or her spouse
when:
1. Offender knows the other person is 13 years
of age or older, but less than 16 years of age
OR
2. Offender is reckless in this regard
2. Degree of Offense
a. F-4
b. Offender is less than 4 years older than other
person, M-1
c. If the offender is 10 or more years older than the
victim; F-3
d. If offender has been previously convicted of Rape,
Sexual Battery, Unlawful Sexual Conduct with a
Minor, or the former crime of Felonious Sexual
Penetration; F-2
3. Interpreting Elements
a. Prohibition of sexual conduct when offenders 18
or over and partner is 13 to 15 years of age:
1. Defendant is 18 and partner is 15 (M-1)
2. Defendant is 25 and partner is 15 (F-4)
3. Defendant is 16 and partner is 15 (No offense)
4. Defendant is 18 and partner is 12 (Rape)
b. Consensual sexual conduct is still a violation
E. Gross Sexual Imposition
1. ELEMENTS OF GROSS SEXUAL IMPOSITION
ORC 2907.05
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-11
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
a. Having sexual contact with another who is not the
spouse of the offender
OR
b. Causing another to have sexual contact with
offender who is not the spouse of the offender
OR
c. Cause 2 or more other persons to have sexual
contact
d. When any of the following applies:
1. Offender purposely compels the other person,
or one of the other persons, to submit by force
or threat of force
OR
2. For purpose of preventing resistance, offender
substantially impairs the other person?s, or one
of the other person?s judgment or control:
a. By administering any drug or intoxicant or
controlled substance
b. Surreptitiously
c. By Force
d. By threat of force
OR
e. By deception
OR
3. Offender knows that the other person?s or one
of the other person?s judgment or control is
substantially impaired by drug or intoxicant or
controlled substance administered with the
person?s consent for purpose of medical or
dental examination, treatment or surgery
OR
Sexual Contact Crime
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-12
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
4. Other person, or one of the other persons, is
less than 13 years old regardless of whether
offender knows the other person?s age
OR
5. Ability of other person or one of the other
person?s resistance or consent is substantially
impaired because of a mental or physical
condition or advanced age AND offender
knows or has reasonable cause to believe
ability to resist or consent of the other person,
or one of the other persons, is substantially
impaired because of mental or physical
condition or advanced age
2. F-4
3. If offender impairs victim?s judgment by administration
of a controlled substance surreptitiously or by force,
threat of force or deception; F-3
4. When victim is under 13 years of age; F-3
5. Interpreting Elements
a. Same elements as rape, except sexual contact as
opposed to sexual conduct
b. A father who touches his minor daughter?s
buttocks with wrongful intent during a back-rub
can be convicted for gross sexual imposition
c. A man who backs a woman co-worker against a
wall and places his arms in such a way that she
cannot move away is exerting sufficient force to
sustain a conviction of gross sexual imposition
d. Victim need not prove physical resistance to
sustain a conviction for Gross Sexual Imposition
F. Sexual Imposition
1. ELEMENTS OF SEXUAL IMPOSITION
a. Have sexual contact with another who is not the
offender?s spouse
OR
State v. Schaim (1992) 65
Ohio St. 3d 51
ORC 2907.06
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-13
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
b. Cause another to have sexual contact with the
offender who is not the spouse of the offender
OR
c. Cause 2 or more others to have sexual contact
WHEN
d. Any of the following applies:
1. Offender knows the sexual contact is offensive
to the other person OR one of the other
persons OR is reckless in that regard
2. Offender knows the other person?s, ability to
appraise the nature of his conduct or to control
his conduct is substantially impaired
OR
3. Offender knows the other person, or one of the
other persons, submits because of being
unaware of the sexual contact
OR
4. The other person, or one of the other persons,
is 13 years of age or older but less than 16
years of age regardless of whether offender
knows such age and offender is at least 18
years old and 4 or more years older than the
other person
5. The offender is a mental health professional?
and?
a. The victim is a patient?
and?
b. The offender induces the victim to submit
by falsely represent that sexual contact is
necessary for mental health treatment
purposes

We meet every day in school a reflection of the national leadership class displaying every indication it has abandoned its fundamental American obligation to raise ordinary people up, becoming instead an overseas transmitter of the original mother ideas of England.

John Taylor Gatto

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 17, 2006, 08:42:00 PM
HERE is the KICKER right HERE PEOPLE:

VOYERISM in this fashion is against OHIO law:

EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-17
H. Voyeurism (?Peeping Tom?)
1. Definitions as used in this section:
a. Institution of Higher Education means:
1. A state institution of higher education as
defined in section 3345.031
2. A private, nonprofit college or university
located in this state that possesses a
certificate of authorization issued by the Ohio
Board of Regents under ORC 1713
ORC 2907.08, SUB. S.B. 82
EFFECTIVE 1/30/98
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-18
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
b. ?Child Day-Care Center?, Type ?A? Family Day
Care Home, Type ?B? Family Day Care Home
have the same meanings as in ORC 5104.01
c. ?Babysitting care? means care provided for a child
while the parents, guardian or legal custodian of
the child is temporarily away
2. ELEMENTS OF VOYEURISM
a. [Section A] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another, to spy or eavesdrop
upon another
b. [Section B] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity
c. [Section C] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity if the other person
is a minor
d. [Section D] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity if the other person
is a minor and any of the following applies:
1. The offender is the minor?s natural or adoptive
parent, stepparent, guardian or custodian or
person in loco parentis of the minor
2. The minor is in custody of law or is a patient in
a hospital or other institution and the offender
has supervisory or disciplinary authority over
the minor
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
3. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed or
serving in a school for which the state board of
education prescribes minimum standards
pursuant to division (D) of ORC 3301.07, the
minor is enrolled in or attends that school and
the offender is not enrolled in and does not
attend that school
4. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed by or
serving in an institution of higher education
and the minor is enrolled in or attends that
institution
5. The offender is a care giver, administrator or
other person in authority employed by or
serving in a child Day-care Center, Type ?A?
Family Day-care Home, or type ?B? Family
Day-care Home and the minor is enrolled in or
attends that center or home
6. The offender is the minor?s athletic or other
type of coach, is the minor?s instructor, is the
leader of a scouting troop of which the minor is
a member, provides baby-sitting care for the
minor, or is a person with temporary or
occasional disciplinary control over the minor
e. Division (E)
1. Secretly or surreptitiously?
2. Videotape, film, photograph, or otherwise
record another?
3. Under or through that person?s clothing?
4. For the purpose of viewing the body of or
undergarments worn by that person
3. Degree of Offense
a. Division (A), M-3
b. Division (B), M-2
c. Division (C), M-1

Warm regards as always,
-DP ::mecry::

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Deprogrammed on January 17, 2006, 10:12:00 PM

The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles.
--John Adams, U.S. President

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 04:47:00 PM
Hey ODADAS, yeah I am talking to you, you read it correctly ODADAS!

I know that you are aware that gross sexual imposition goes on everyday at the host homes of khk that you refuse to visit and investigate, under ohio revised code :

EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-17
H. Voyeurism (?Peeping Tom?)
1. Definitions as used in this section:
a. Institution of Higher Education means:
1. A state institution of higher education as
defined in section 3345.031
2. A private, nonprofit college or university
located in this state that possesses a
certificate of authorization issued by the Ohio
Board of Regents under ORC 1713
ORC 2907.08, SUB. S.B. 82
EFFECTIVE 1/30/98
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-18
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
b. ?Child Day-Care Center?, Type ?A? Family Day
Care Home, Type ?B? Family Day Care Home
have the same meanings as in ORC 5104.01
c. ?Babysitting care? means care provided for a child
while the parents, guardian or legal custodian of
the child is temporarily away
2. ELEMENTS OF VOYEURISM
a. [Section A] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another, to spy or eavesdrop
upon another
b. [Section B] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity
c. [Section C] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity if the other person
is a minor
d. [Section D] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity if the other person
is a minor and any of the following applies:
1. The offender is the minor?s natural or adoptive
parent, stepparent, guardian or custodian or
person in loco parentis of the minor
2. The minor is in custody of law or is a patient in
a hospital or other institution and the offender
has supervisory or disciplinary authority over
the minor
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
3. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed or
serving in a school for which the state board of
education prescribes minimum standards
pursuant to division (D) of ORC 3301.07, the
minor is enrolled in or attends that school and
the offender is not enrolled in and does not
attend that school
4. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed by or
serving in an institution of higher education
and the minor is enrolled in or attends that
institution
5. The offender is a care giver, administrator or
other person in authority employed by or
serving in a child Day-care Center, Type ?A?
Family Day-care Home, or type ?B? Family
Day-care Home and the minor is enrolled in or
attends that center or home
6. The offender is the minor?s athletic or other
type of coach, is the minor?s instructor, is the
leader of a scouting troop of which the minor is
a member, provides baby-sitting care for the
minor, or is a person with temporary or
occasional disciplinary control over the minor
e. Division (E)
1. Secretly or surreptitiously?
2. Videotape, film, photograph, or otherwise
record another?
3. Under or through that person?s clothing?
4. For the purpose of viewing the body of or
undergarments worn by that person
3. Degree of Offense
a. Division (A), M-3
b. Division (B), M-2
c. Division (C), M-1

I would hope that you being a government entity will take care of this problem considering you license and approve an operating license for Kids helping Kids located in milford ohio every single year. Licensing a program that is breaking the law in such a way is against the law of Ohio.
I know that you read this website, this information is getting out to the people of Cincinnati very rapidly, and they are not liking what they are hearing based on Facts.

The general accountability office is also now being notified.

Have a nice day
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
BTW check out sections 4 and on...this is what I am talking about. and this is why the children in the UNLICENSED FOSTER HOMES known as "Host Homes" at KHK are at risk, and have been the whole time they have been in business.

It is time to take responsibility and take care of this cancer on our society now!
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 02:11:00 AM
no one has anything else to say here?

Wow!
Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Helena Handbasket on January 21, 2006, 12:07:00 PM
Quote
On 2006-01-20 23:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"no one has anything else to say here?



Wow!"


What else can we say?  It's right there in the statutes!  

The real question is why these statutes allowed to be violated?

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--Annie Dillard, "Pilgrim at Tinker Creek"

Title: Let us talk about the laws KHK has been violating
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2006, 06:59:00 PM
Quote
On 2006-01-21 09:07:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

"
Quote

On 2006-01-20 23:11:00, Anonymous wrote:


"no one has anything else to say here?





Wow!"




What else can we say?  It's right there in the statutes!  



The real question is why these statutes allowed to be violated?

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--Annie Dillard, "Pilgrim at Tinker Creek"


"


That is a damn good question!