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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 22, 2005, 09:07:00 PM
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hla has a forum website for alumni.
check it out it has current staff posting on it and everything and i thought some of you could have a field day with it
its on http://www.ezboard.com (http://www.ezboard.com)
and u have to regester but its free then search hla
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no thanks.
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Hey. I checked it out. There are actually students logging on that have good things to say about the school. This changes my perception of everything being said on this sight.
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Yeah I'll bet it does.
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It really does. It is nice to see the other side of things.
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On 2005-12-23 12:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It really does. It is nice to see the other side of things. "
Thats right, thank you! Im a potential parent and was kind of doubtful about all the things stated bad about the HL Academy, I even took a tour of the place last week, it seems like a great school
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you people are beyond belief. the lengths you will go to with your damage control.
as if ANY of you would give a prospective parent the link for this site.
btw, anyone else having a problem with ezboard loading? is the site moderated?
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Yes Im sure all the testimonials both on here and there are legit.
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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I went there and I found it to be a cult and overall a really messed up place that was never interested in helping anyone.
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The Problem with hla ezboard message boards:
Quoted from the letter I got that arrived yesterday:
"WELCOME!!! This ite has been designed to present an Open Window into Hidden Lake Academy. The rules of the site are simple.....honesty prevails; genuine feelings......real letters.....an open window. HLA is providing this discussion board where HLA parents, alumni. or our current students can post and communicate with each other.
For Parents: It is a difficult decision to place your child in a Theraputic Boarding School. It is our hope by presenting an hones discussion board, it will answer the many questions that you have, dispel the myths and so many untruths, and help you reach a better comfort zone regarding your dicision."
My problem with this: It's a fine idea to create a positive message board for HLA, however, regardless of if you've been through the program or not, claiming that the posts will "dispel the myths and so many untruths" should make any insightful reader wary. The very fact that this is stated in the 5th sentence of a two page letter is concerning and doesn't help to make me feel that this is a completely positive intention.
The letter also asks that the posts be appropriate (translated, means > appropriate in a general sense but my gut feeling tells me that this also means no anti-hla business. I respect this and if others respect this too then those who stand against HLA would probably stay away from the hla ezboard, if not out of respect,then simply because there aren't enough people who feel the same way on that board and hla bashing always feels more validated when others are doing it beside you. (Let me note that I'm not an hla basher but I choose to discuss my personal experience at hla only when asked.)
Bottom line: The HLA section of Fornits is run by those that oppose, even hate the school and are supported by people who think likewise. The ezboard HLA board is run by HLA staff in support of their school and will most likely have a following of those who feel likewise.
There is no "open window."
Thank you and wishing you all a very happy holiday!
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Sorry I posted as anonymous. Just so people know the above was written by Emily (62). I'm not too into the 'secretivity' thing on this board.
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Thanks Emily,
The info and your perspective is appreciated.
Any idea why ezboard is not up? I can't get it to open.
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On 2005-12-23 16:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
My problem with this: It's a fine idea to create a positive message board for HLA, however, regardless of if you've been through the program or not, claiming that the posts will "dispel the myths and so many untruths" should make any insightful reader wary. The very fact that this is stated in the 5th sentence of a two page letter is concerning and doesn't help to make me feel that this is a completely positive intention.
The letter also asks that the posts be appropriate (translated, means > appropriate in a general sense but my gut feeling tells me that this also means no anti-hla business.
:nworthy: :nworthy:
Doesn't really sound like an "open window" now does it?
Bottom line: The HLA section of Fornits is run by those that oppose, even hate the school and are supported by people who think likewise.
No, the Fornits HLA forum is not run by anyone. There acually IS an open forum here. As you see no one is deleting positive HLA posts.
Thank you and wishing you all a very happy holiday!"
The same to you and welcome!!!! :wave:
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try
http://www.hlaboards.com (http://www.hlaboards.com)
and
http://www.discusshla.com (http://www.discusshla.com)
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What a crumby venue. I've tried four of five different times and it's only opened once. Is there a problem, or is ezboard just lame?
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it opens every time for me. Try dumping your temp files. do you have dial up?
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Too much trouble. Other sites are opening fine. No dial-up.
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I guess it just doesnt like you
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On 2005-12-23 17:29:00, emily62 wrote:
"try
http://www.hlaboards.com (http://www.hlaboards.com)
and
http://www.discusshla.com (http://www.discusshla.com)"
PG1 Mike Shapiro says wazzzuppp
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Hi I just wanted to say that I just graduated from Florida State-FAMU College of Engineering with a degree in industrial engineering yesterday. All is well with me... Just looking to connect with old friends... I miss U guys...
Mike Shapiro.
Drop a note to Dysfunction Junction when you get a chance, Mike.
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On 2005-12-23 17:29:00, emily62 wrote:
"try
http://www.hlaboards.com (http://www.hlaboards.com)
and
http://www.discusshla.com (http://www.discusshla.com)"
http://www.hlaboards.com/ (http://www.hlaboards.com/)
This is a joke. It's a set-up and still no posters.
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There are posters. Just read it
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On 2005-12-23 13:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
Thats right, thank you! Im a potential parent and ...
...pathological liar. Trust me on this one.With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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On 2005-12-25 13:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
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What a crumby venue. I've tried four of five different times and it's only opened once. Is there a problem, or is ezboard just lame?"
Honest to God, I think there's a meaningful nexus between brainwashing and inability to think on the level necessary to write programing or even run a web site.Tough Love: Abuse of a type particularly enjoyable to the abuser, in that it combines the pleasures of sadism with those of self-righteousness. Commonly employed and widely admired in 12-step groups.
--Chaz Bufe
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Here's a fun idea. Those of you who know something of HLA and would like to hook up w/ old friends and fellow former inmates try posting to their forum. Save a copy to post here, in this thread, in case they dissalow or delete your posts. That'll give us a pretty good idea of the moderator's editorial policy.
They came with a Bible and their religion- stole our land, crushed our spirit... and now tell us we should be thankful to the 'Lord' for being saved.
--Chief Pontiac, American Indian Chieftain
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I dont know what is wrong with that person's computer but every time I tested the website loading it worked fine for me. I dont think there is anything wrong with the website. It could be more creative, but the technical end of it seems to be working fine
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***Those of you who know something of HLA and would like to hook up w/ old friends and fellow former inmates try posting to their forum.
Good idea Ginger.
The fact that they have to create a forum for ex participants to hook-up speaks for its self. How many people leave there with their friends contact information? Why?
Now they want to put out the imagine that they encourage contact between peers. Only with strict rules and they are controlling the dialogue.
Seems that ex alums are doing fine at the My Space site, which is unmoderated.
The one time the EZboard site opened I saw few postings be exs, mostly staff reporting about events and/or stating that they'd 'heard' from so-in-so.
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It appears that graduates visit campus from time to time according to the site. And I have seen some ex students post. Mainly from earlier peer groups it seems.
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I counted 11 former students' names on the board posting. About 6 staff members posting.
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On 2005-12-26 02:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It appears that graduates visit campus from time to time according to the site. And I have seen some ex students post. Mainly from earlier peer groups it seems."
The guy they said visited campus was a total tool when he was at HLA. If anyone needed a snitch or a confession they'd get it from him. So it doesn't surprise me much to see he's the visitor.
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Who was he?
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Can't seem to leave a comment on the ezboard site (somehow I'm not surprised). Anyway, just wanted to say hello to Andrew H. Its been a long time, hope things are going well! - Tony
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On 2005-12-27 19:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Can't seem to leave a comment on the ezboard site (somehow I'm not surprised). Anyway, just wanted to say hello to Andrew H. Its been a long time, hope things are going well! - Tony"
Tony!!!! Whats up my nigga!!!!!
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Not much, who's asking?
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One of your old friends man! I dont wanna say my name though
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makes it hard to have a conversation don't you think? Anyway, if this truly is an old friend I wish you well.
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Although I don't blame you... there seems to be a lot of drama here.
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On 2005-12-28 18:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"One of your old friends man! I dont wanna say my name though"
Pick a username (you don't even have to post using that name, you can still post anon) and Private Message him.
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Hope all is well Tony my man, I miss ya and love ya like a brother, stay strong! :tup:
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Who is this? If you have AIM my screen name is surfing30504.
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I dont have AIM man
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Pick a username (you don't even have to post using that name, you can still post anon) and Private Message him.
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Oh well AIM was just a thought. Always interesting to catch up with people you haven't seen or talked to in awhile.
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Thanks to the other anon who was making the suggestion to pick a user name. I guess ya never know whos lurking in the shadows... :smile:
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No problem Tony :tup:
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On 2005-12-28 19:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
"No problem Tony :grin:
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You have to admit this is pretty funny... we are all posting on a board but can't say who we are, where we are, or when we were involved with HLA for fear that other people will talk trash or simply know that we are even on the board. :lol:
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On 2005-12-28 19:39:00, Surfing7 wrote:
"You have to admit this is pretty funny... we are all posting on a board but can't say who we are, where we are, or when we were involved with HLA for fear that other people will talk trash or simply know that we are even on the board. :lol: "
hahaha i know right tony
im glad your here, there are so many morons, one more smart dude makes things better.
dan pg26 (once again, i always say who i am and you people really should get over yourselves and do the the same)
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Robert...this doesn't say much for your brain power...do you think parents don't know about these negative sites....isn't that the entire purpose of all the misguided, immature garbage you spew....
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"fornits is not run by anyone"...surely no one in this world is that stupid.
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On 2005-12-29 10:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
""fornits is not run by anyone"...surely no one in this world is that stupid."
Well, be fair now. That's not what I said. If you're going to quote someone don't change the text. http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#158356 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=10#158356) I said the HLA forum isn't run by anyone and its not. No moderator.
Fornits was set up by Antigen but that's about it.
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Hey all of you "Negs"...to be able to reconnect with old friends is the entire purpose of the hla discussion boards...y'all just can't stand anything positive coming from HLA. A lot of us have good lives and HLA helped us to get there...I'm personally glad they are not allowing all the four letter words and the totally negatives that so many of you seem to be only able to use...you have fornits and my space for that....finally... grow up and get a life! Some of us have had good experiences and probably would not be alive today had we not had HLA. That growth only comes with maturity...hope you get there someday!
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If the hla site is so "crumby" why bother with it? Why do you care?
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Now you've stooped to pulling emails off the hla discussions boards...without permission...and posting here....take a bow you've stooped to a new level of "fornits".....
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Haha, I like this
a new "level of fornits."
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"without permission"?
it's in the public domain. you put the links to that forum up here, and invited people.
what's the difference if they read it here or there, provided it's not taken out of context?
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On 2005-12-29 10:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert...this doesn't say much for your brain power...do you think parents don't know about these negative sites....isn't that the entire purpose of all the misguided, immature garbage you spew...."
Which one is negative? I view this one as being honest not negative. But yes parents do know about this site why is that even a question? I am interested to know specifically what misguided, immature garbage you believe I have spewed. Please list off such statements and I will address each and every one.
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On 2005-12-29 10:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey all of you "Negs"...to be able to reconnect with old friends is the entire purpose of the hla discussion boards...y'all just can't stand anything positive coming from HLA. A lot of us have good lives and HLA helped us to get there...I'm personally glad they are not allowing all the four letter words and the totally negatives that so many of you seem to be only able to use...you have fornits and my space for that....finally... grow up and get a life! Some of us have had good experiences and probably would not be alive today had we not had HLA. That growth only comes with maturity...hope you get there someday! "
One more time typical behavior. Making blanket assumptions without ever bothering to get the facts first. Let me educate you.
1. The purpose of this board is not to reconnect with friends..at least not primarily. The purpose of this board is to expose the truth about HLA.
2. No one questions or cares the fact that you may have recieved a positive expierence at HLA. The fact remains that not everyone did.
3. Youre assuming because we did not have a positive experience at HLA that somehow suggest we are immature or bad. Once again typical behavior. There has been more than enough proof both on here and on other sites that HLA has or previously had many negative aspects. Many people suffered from those aspects. Further many people never needed the enviornment HLA provided to begin with, and never benefited from any of their time there. It is immature of you to assume anyone who is willing to relate their experiences about HLA is somehow being immature. Who are you to discount any of their experiences? The fact of the matter is you have no clue what each individual went through or what brought them there. If you benefited from being there, fine good for you. But dont you dare tell someone else to "grow up" simply because they do not share your feelings.
Oh and by the way, your support of censorship is again typical behavior. Or the product of a brainwashed mind. Either one is fine.
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substandard education, substandard therapy, behavior modification program, LGAT seminars, restriction of food as punishment, sleep deprivation, failed health inspections, court-ordered kids, use of restraint, strip searches, censored communications, sexual relationships b/w staff and patients, forced labor unrelated to "offenses," unqualified staff, fake degrees, wilderness punishment, false advertising, drugs on campus, sexual activity b/w patients on campus, locked at night, vermin, insects, moldy rooms and, most of all, record profits...all rolled into one and only a paltry $7000.00 per month. HLA still rocks no matter WHAT!!
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You just summed it all up right there.
Thank you.
Now lets watch as the puppets evade responding to this.
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They are ALL FALSE King Bruce of the queens
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Dan! Great to hear from you again. Sorry we keep missing each other on AIM. Look forward to catching up...
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the above post is mine!
- Tony
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On 2005-12-29 14:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"They are ALL FALSE King Bruce of the queens"
Anything you say Short Bus. Have you ever even been to HLA or were just hired by the Buch from the Elan site?
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On 2005-12-29 15:31:00, Surfing7 wrote:
"the above post is mine!
- Tony"
What happened to the Jar-Jar name?
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That wasn't me. I believe the individual was there long after my time.
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substandard education, substandard therapy, behavior modification program, LGAT seminars, restriction of food as punishment, sleep deprivation, failed health inspections, court-ordered kids, use of restraint, strip searches, censored communications, sexual relationships b/w staff and patients, forced labor unrelated to "offenses," unqualified staff, fake degrees, wilderness punishment, false advertising, drugs on campus, sexual activity b/w patients on campus, locked at night, vermin, insects, moldy rooms and, most of all, record profits...all rolled into one and only a paltry $7000.00 per month. :wave: :roll:
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Um, Bruce? What the FUCK does the Elan board have to do with HLA? What the hell are you smoking over there buddy?
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Nothing, its just where our stooge for hire was hanging out prior to coming over here. In reality he had nothing to do with either Elan or HLA. He's just that a stooge for hire. I guess his BA from Miami wasnt that useful after all.
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On 2005-12-29 16:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Um, Bruce? What the FUCK does the Elan board have to do with HLA? What the hell are you smoking over there buddy?"
Mr. Pink's Attorney posts at both locations.
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What the hell are you fuckers talking about? You have no idea do you....
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We do.
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On 2005-12-29 18:37:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"We do. "
Obviously you do not.
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On 2005-12-29 18:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-29 18:37:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"We do. "
Obviously you do not."
Do too.
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Do NOT!
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Uh oh someone is getting cranky. They didnt get their daily enema.
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Hmmm, that was funny :roll:
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although they seem to have a textbook case of verbal diarrhea.
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On 2005-12-30 18:32:00, Surfing7 wrote:
"although they seem to have a textbook case of verbal diarrhea."
Couldnt agree more with ya
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On 2005-12-30 13:32:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Uh oh someone is getting cranky. They didnt get their daily enema. "
Suck my fuckin dick you bitch ass nigga
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On 2005-12-30 18:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-30 13:32:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Uh oh someone is getting cranky. They didnt get their daily enema. "
Suck my fuckin dick you bitch ass nigga"
Hey, we understand. You're gay and that's fine. What I want you to understand, however, is that this is not a gay dating site. Try the clubs, you might get lucky. Probably not, though.
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http://p068.ezboard.com/fhladiscussionboardsfrm16 (http://p068.ezboard.com/fhladiscussionboardsfrm16)
This is one of the LAMEST, most censored sites I've ever seen. About 75% of the posts are from HLA employees. There is not ine single, solitary negative comment posted on the board.
"Open window" my ass. Totally censored HLA marketing tool, yes.
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Yeh, back to the topic of this thread....
Will FLAP be a FLOP?
Kathleen has apparently been busy inviting (begging?) alumni to start a thread for their PG.
Did everyone receive an invite?
Busy 'editing'(controlling the dialogue) posts on EZBoard, of staff and alumni.
This was the best though--
Hi Aften! Good to hear from you...hope all is well with you...thanks for sticking up for us on the web. sorry you had to take such personal abuse for it... email me your mailing address at http://www.discusshla.com/ (http://www.discusshla.com/)
Kathleen you're obviously reading Fornits and possibly MySpace. Are you posting anonymously here?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#158151 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=0#158151)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#158226 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=0#158226)
Posing as a potential parent?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#158235 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=0#158235)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#158759 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=10#158759)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =40#159635 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=40#159635)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =40#159637 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=40#159637)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =50#159648 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=50#159648)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =50#159712 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=50#159712)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =60#159771 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=60#159771)
If you don't want to be confused with the other anons, best pick yourself a user name. Be accountable, take responsibility for your comments.
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On 2005-12-29 10:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now you've stooped to pulling emails off the hla discussions boards...without permission...and posting here....take a bow you've stooped to a new level of "fornits"....."
This is that dope Aften again.
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On 2005-12-29 10:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey all of you "Negs"...to be able to reconnect with old friends is the entire purpose of the hla discussion boards...y'all just can't stand anything positive coming from HLA. A lot of us have good lives and HLA helped us to get there...I'm personally glad they are not allowing all the four letter words and the totally negatives that so many of you seem to be only able to use...you have fornits and my space for that....finally... grow up and get a life! Some of us have had good experiences and probably would not be alive today had we not had HLA. That growth only comes with maturity...hope you get there someday! "
More Aften, popping off garbage that others need "lives."
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On 2005-12-31 09:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Yeh, back to the topic of this thread....
Will FLAP be a FLOP?
Kathleen has apparently been busy inviting (begging?) alumni to start a thread for their PG.
Did everyone receive an invite?
Busy 'editing'(controlling the dialogue) posts on EZBoard, of staff and alumni.
This was the best though--
Hi Aften! Good to hear from you...hope all is well with you...thanks for sticking up for us on the web. sorry you had to take such personal abuse for it... email me your mailing address at http://www.discusshla.com/ (http://www.discusshla.com/)
Kathleen you're obviously reading Fornits and possibly MySpace. Are you posting anonymously here?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#158151 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=0#158151)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#158226 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=0#158226)
Posing as a potential parent?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#158235 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=0#158235)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =10#158759 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=10#158759)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =40#159635 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=40#159635)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =40#159637 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=40#159637)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =50#159648 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=50#159648)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =50#159712 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=50#159712)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =60#159771 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13126&forum=41&start=60#159771)
If you don't want to be confused with the other anons, best pick yourself a user name. Be accountable, take responsibility for your comments.
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FLAP already IS a flop. They can't get a post without soliciting it. What a bunch of losers.
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"Now you've stooped to pulling emails off the hla discussions boards...without permission...and posting here....take a bow you've stooped to a new level of "fornits"....."
Nope, Kathleen.
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On 2005-12-31 10:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
""Now you've stooped to pulling emails off the hla discussions boards...without permission...and posting here....take a bow you've stooped to a new level of "fornits"....."
Isn't that discussion board on the web? Why would you assume that to be private? People pull shit off of here all the time 'without permission'. Big fucking deal.
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it's no mistake that the first group addressed are Parents:
For Parents: It is a difficult decision to place your child in a Therapeutic Boarding School. It is our hope by presenting an honest discussion board, it will answer the many questions that you may have, dispel the myths and so many untruths, and help you reach a better comfort zone regarding your decision.>>>>
that's the purpose of the site.
to help parents 'reach a better comfort zone regarding your decision'.
for ten years kids have left there without a shread of contact information about their peers. personal items shipped after their departure so it could be searched for such. how many ex's posting here were given that info?
as for the 'myths and so many untruths', haven't seen those discussions there. one would have to come to fornits or myspace for that.
Well, except they did dispell one untruth- they ARE a TBS. no surprise for some. is it such a 'difficult decision' to 'place' a child in a traditional boarding school?
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On 2005-12-31 10:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
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it's no mistake that the first group addressed are Parents:
For Parents: It is a difficult decision to place your child in a Therapeutic Boarding School. It is our hope by presenting an honest discussion board, it will answer the many questions that you may have, dispel the myths and so many untruths, and help you reach a better comfort zone regarding your decision.>>>>
that's the purpose of the site.
to help parents 'reach a better comfort zone regarding your decision'.
Are you referring to the ezboard site where moderators have control over what is and is not posted? If so, how is that presenting an honest dicussion? Shouldn't the potential marks, I mean parents be presented with all opinions? There are people that post positive things about HLA and those aren't edited or deleted. Why can't HLA & Co. do the same? What are they afraid of?
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On 2005-12-31 10:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
""Now you've stooped to pulling emails off the hla discussions boards...without permission...and posting here....take a bow you've stooped to a new level of "fornits"....."
Nope, Kathleen."
Well, Kathleen, let me be the first of many to tell you that it is you who has stooped to the lowest possible level. You have invalidated everything you have posted here.
Let me ask you, what kind of professional can't handle criticisms of their work? If your position is so solid and HLA is such a great place, why then can your case not withstand even the most cursory scrutiny? What kind of professional advocates their point of view by alternately censoring and degrading his or her detractors?
You are the personification of the ongoing problems at HLA. Why you were instructed to put forth their philosophy is beyond me. All you've done here is fuel the fire. You've lied, you've berated, you've made outrageous statements while under the "anonymous" cloak. What's your problem, lady? Why can't you sustain your position academically?
I'll gladly debate you any time on the efficacy of HLA's "treatment" program, but you're going to have to tell the truth and back it up with facts, as I surely can and will.
You are a lame excuse for a representative. All you've done is drive down your reputation and your employer's reputation.
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On 2005-12-31 10:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
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it's no mistake that the first group addressed are Parents:
For Parents: It is a difficult decision to place your child in a Therapeutic Boarding School. It is our hope by presenting an honest discussion board, it will answer the many questions that you may have, dispel the myths and so many untruths, and help you reach a better comfort zone regarding your decision.>>>>
that's the purpose of the site.
to help parents 'reach a better comfort zone regarding your decision'.
for ten years kids have left there without a shread of contact information about their peers. personal items shipped after their departure so it could be searched for such. how many ex's posting here were given that info?
as for the 'myths and so many untruths', haven't seen those discussions there. one would have to come to fornits or myspace for that.
Well, except they did dispell one untruth- they ARE a TBS. no surprise for some. is it such a 'difficult decision' to 'place' a child in a traditional boarding school?
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So now they are back to being a Theraputic Boarding School?
I thought they had settled on the hybrid category?
I wonder what ORS will think of an admission made by an employee of HLA that they are in fact a Theraputic Boarding School?
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that's not the only one, the past month.
a teacher posted on MySpace that working for a TBS was her preference.
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Why the discrepency?
Why does your message board state that HLA is a TBS (aka RTC) while your marketing materials and paperwork filed with the state indicate you are a "traditional boarding school"?
Isn't it illegal for a traditional boarding school to provide intensive "therapy" sessions (both group and individual), a behavior modification program, and large group awareness training? What about holding patients incommunicado?
If so, why does HLA continue to falsely represent itself to prospective marks and regulatory bodies as a traditional boarding school?
Let's get real, folks. ANYONE who ever attended a boarding school KNOWS that HLA is NOT ONE.
HLA is a behavior modification center that uses a level system, has arbitrary requirements for completion and practices millieu control. Doesn't sound much like any school I've ever seen.
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From MySpace
jesus i couldnt have said it better myself for the love of god that place needs to be shut the fuck down id also like to add that i have tried to contact that piece of shit place to find out about my peer group and u know u have to write in and shit well they took out everything that was important that i wrote and jus put that i was in college and doing well. umm fuck u i said i wanted to get ahold of my peer group and my friends and thats why i wrote and those mother fuckers hjave my fucking email address and didnt even have the descencey to email me that one of my best friends in my peer group died i had to find out from someone else in a rather harsh "oh i thought u knew sort of way" and dont make fun of me cause i know i probley spelled descency wrong. be nice im grammatically challenged=)
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Go back and head up the 'hill' to restrictions
'Chalet 'where they place the children on restrictions while they are 'gushing' over the prospect of getting your money.
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CheifBroom
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(3/23/06 1:01 pm)
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Wow that didnt take long.
I have previously posted that I felt HLA did alot more damage to me than good and was overall a poor choice. Twice I have posted this and twice it has been deleted.
I am certian I read that this was described as an "honest" board. Am I not permitted to describe my honest opinions?
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On 2006-03-23 14:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"From HLAs EZBoard
Author Comment
CheifBroom
Registered Member
Posts: 3
(3/23/06 1:01 pm)
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Wow that didnt take long.
I have previously posted that I felt HLA did alot more damage to me than good and was overall a poor choice. Twice I have posted this and twice it has been deleted.
I am certian I read that this was described as an "honest" board. Am I not permitted to describe my honest opinions?
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The board is very much the same as the program.
In short, no, you cannot express your true opinion unless your opinion happens to be the "company line." Otherwise, you'll be silenced.
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Kathlen has such a hard job
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And CheifBroom's third attempt has disappeared.
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R.Bruce you cant read like did you graduate from there Don't think so. READ!I agree with HLA your ax to grind doesnt belong there it belongs right here
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On 2006-03-28 07:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"R.Bruce you cant read like did you graduate from there Don't think so. READ!I agree with HLA your ax to grind doesnt belong there it belongs right here "
:???:
In English, please...Can you explain this comment?
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On 2006-03-28 07:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"R.Bruce you cant read like did you graduate from there Don't think so. READ!I agree with HLA your ax to grind doesnt belong there it belongs right here "
Are you a teacher, counselor, ....or janitor, "there"?
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janitor :wave:
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On 2006-03-28 07:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"R.Bruce you cant read like did you graduate from there Don't think so. READ!I agree with HLA your ax to grind doesnt belong there it belongs right here "
Anything you say professor.
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D.R
You make no sense.
enjoy the FL Sun
SSSH
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Lets see first I was B.N.
I lived in California
then I lived in Washington
now Im DR living in Florida?
Hmmmmm
Whenever you make up your mind you let me know, in the mean time Ill assume your any random puppet living in Shithole Dahlonega having sex with your sister living in a wonderful trailer with all the other white trash.
All while Cybil Gray lives in beautiful South Carolina.
Cant forget ol whatsherface living in St. Paul swearing to be an authority on child abuse.
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Never mind[ This Message was edited by: SHH on 2006-03-30 05:44 ]
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On 2006-03-30 03:50:00, SHH wrote:
"I dont live in South Carolina, and my name isnt Cybil, or Gray. "
So much for ignoring RB, huh? That's out the window...
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Youre right...I shouldnt care whether he has my name or home state incorrect. Ill delete my post.
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Oh you dont live in S.C.?
Well I guess that makes you a liar then. See you claimed to live in South Carolina, and then when it came out you cried about it and asked that my post detailing as much be removed.
So either you moved or youre a liar.
Im gonna go with you being a liar as that is already an established fact.
Now that youve come out of lurking in the shadows how about you answer that one burning question.
Are you willing to acknowledge you were wrong in your opinion about HLA?
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It's NORTH Carolina. Maybe she misspoke earlier or something...?
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Oh silly me. Perhaps it was North Carolina, either way the town is Tostupidtoseethefactsville
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Robert, or should we say DR, you are an idiot, Quirek has your home address so everyone knows,
but you are flippin idiot.
The more you post the better case you make for sending students that are jsut like to to a school to get some discpline
just keep it up
YOU ARE THE SCHOOLS BEST PR < all they have to do is show a parent you idiot posts and say , see you don't want your child to end up like this do you? and they come running.
Keep it up RAH RAH Robert ( DR ) are you sure that you are on HLA payroll?
:lol:
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On 2006-01-01 05:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why the discrepency?
Why does your message board state that HLA is a TBS (aka RTC) while your marketing materials and paperwork filed with the state indicate you are a "traditional boarding school"?
Isn't it illegal for a traditional boarding school to provide intensive "therapy" sessions (both group and individual), a behavior modification program, and large group awareness training? What about holding patients incommunicado?
If so, why does HLA continue to falsely represent itself to prospective marks and regulatory bodies as a traditional boarding school?
Let's get real, folks. ANYONE who ever attended a boarding school KNOWS that HLA is NOT ONE.
HLA is a behavior modification center that uses a level system, has arbitrary requirements for completion and practices millieu control. Doesn't sound much like any school I've ever seen."
Can you answer these questions please, anon?
You seem to know an awful lot about the goings-on there. Can you please help me find the true answers to the questions above?
Thank you.
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On 2006-03-30 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert, or should we say DR, you are an idiot, Quirek has your home address so everyone knows,
but you are flippin idiot.
The more you post the better case you make for sending students that are jsut like to to a school to get some discpline
just keep it up
YOU ARE THE SCHOOLS BEST PR < all they have to do is show a parent you idiot posts and say , see you don't want your child to end up like this do you? and they come running.
Keep it up RAH RAH Robert ( DR ) are you sure that you are on HLA payroll?
:lol: "
Do they? By all means post it. Im sure if ol Marty and the gang had my home address (they dont) or my real identity (not even close) I would have recieved a threatening letter by now. The truth of the matter is Im just to smart for you retards, hence why none of you have been able to shut me up.
Now as to your other pointless ramblings, lets take a look at the facts. Youre claiming HLA shows my post to parents as a means of illustrating what they dont want their children to become?
A student who has remained consistently on the Deans List?
A soon to be grad student?
A home owner?
A private business owner?
Or maybe you were just fixated on my specific post on here?
Lets see Ive provided proof to every one of my claims.
I consistently show you retards up.
Puppet after puppet has come on here and so far not a one of them has been able to handle me.
Most of them cant even stand to answer a couple of questions.
So tell me lapdog if HLA uses me as an example of what parents dont want their children to be...what should they strive for?
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On 2006-03-30 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert, or should we say DR, you are an idiot, Quirek has your home address so everyone knows,
but you are flippin idiot.
The more you post the better case you make for sending students that are jsut like to to a school to get some discpline
just keep it up
YOU ARE THE SCHOOLS BEST PR
two things for certainL
you aren't the best PR person for HLA.
and the kid would get 'discipline' HLA sytle.
not certain they'd get an education.
what position do you hold "looking"?
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Robert
you can baffle most with you bullsh**,
used up all that trust fund yet? :question:
I have to agree you are DJ's boy!
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Are wacko's running rampant on here today, or what?
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On 2006-03-30 19:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert
you can baffle most with you bullsh**,
used up all that trust fund yet? :question:
I have to agree you are DJ's boy! "
I have a trust fund? Nice! How old do I have to be to gain access to it. Thanks brother!
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On 2006-03-30 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
The more you post the better case you make for sending students that are jsut like to to a school to get some discpline
Actually, between what this kid says here and what I know of him otherwise, I wish my daughter had enough sense to date a boy like him.
:nworthy: The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us, and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.
--Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist
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Awww thanks Ging. tell your daughter I said shes a cutie...to bad Im a married man.
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Oh, well now that I didn't know! I take it back. LOL
Carry on, carry on...To be an atheist requires strength of mind and goodness of heart found in not one of a thousand.
--Samuel Taylor Coleridge, English poet, critic, journalist, philosopher
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On 2006-03-30 18:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-03-30 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert, or should we say DR, you are an idiot, Quirek has your home address so everyone knows,
but you are flippin idiot.
The more you post the better case you make for sending students that are jsut like to to a school to get some discpline
just keep it up
YOU ARE THE SCHOOLS BEST PR
two things for certainL
you aren't the best PR person for HLA.
and the kid would get 'discipline' HLA sytle.
not certain they'd get an education.
what position do you hold "looking"?"
Let's lay odds on who this might be.
I'd say 2 to 1 it's Nicole. The boss probably told her "You fucked this all up, get out there and fix it!" :lol:
Ahh, Nicole, the tool that was used so craftily to get all that dirt in writing. She's mad because she got gamed and isn't smart enough to turn the tables.
In any case, whoever it is, it shows clearly that the use of lies and manipulation are what those people do best. They'll say anything to anybody so long as it's expedient.
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Kathleen's latest attempt to control the dialogue:
kmfh10
Website Moderator
Posts: 28
(3/30/06 11:27 am)
Reply please register
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Please register using your real name and the PG # that you graduated with. This boards is for HLA alumni and our current students...If we don't know who you are, we have no choice but to delete the message. This Board is meant for all of you to have a vehicle to rekindle the friendships that you made at HLA...Have fun finding each other again!
We are really trying to connect with all of you and to have you connect with everyone you have lost touch with over the years. :question:
Thanks! Kathleen
For crying out loud. Many of the participants are adults now. And they can't POST THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS. Yes, let's all re-connect right here, so I can completely control the dialogue.
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DevinR25
Registered Member
Posts: 1
(4/18/06 2:09 pm)
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I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I recently came on this board and posted my opinions about how I feel I in no way shape or form benefited from my time at HLA. I feel it was a bad enviroment for me, and a negative experience over all. Apparently any opinions that do not coincide with the party line are still frowned upon. My comments were deleted and I was banned (unsuccessfully) from the board.
Well here I am still, still espouting off the same opinion that HLA was a bad choice for me, and caused me far more detriment than good.
Let's see how long its here before they delete it.
I wonder what excuse will be offered up this time?
In the mean time anyone from p.g. 25 I'd love to try and reconnect.
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Bets on how long it will stay posted?
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didn't take long, it's gone.
Gillianpg16
Registered Member
Posts: 3
(4/18/06 9:46 pm)
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Hi L!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi L!!! I am so glad you wrote. I miss you!! I have been thinking of you off and on for years but couldn't find you. I don't think they allow contact information on this site. [THAT'S RIGHT. WHY?] It is great that you work with adolescents! I can't wait to hear from you!!! Love, G
Edited by: kmfh10 at: 4/19/06 1:32 pm
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okay, i'm going to attempt to be good so that this can stay up here and so that you know that i'm attempting to write back to you. i've recently found a lot of things to do on myspace.com. it's a great way to stay in touch with the people that i've left behind, and even new ones. i'm doing good. living life as i always thought that i would. hopefully we can find some way to talk off of this website soon. i would love to have a more direct way to talking to you. hope you are well!!!!
WHY aren't people allowed to connect off the list?
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Hello Chris. I guess it's been awhile since I looked at the HLA website; I'd have sworn these forums would never get put up. [Why?] Drew here; living in Northern California, trying to graduate from college before President Chelsea Clinton is cutting ribbons for shopping malls on Mars. I edit and write for the newspaper. I have a dumb cat.
That's about that for now I guess.
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On 2006-04-24 12:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
WHY aren't people allowed to connect off the list?"
Excellent question!!! HLA people....what's the problem with these kids putting up contact info?
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Wow, I always thought being a teenager i would be less mature and see less broad than adults. i guess this isnt the case:
Honestly, DO U think on an HIDDEN LAKE RUN FORUM people are gonna allow bad posts saying "hla sucks it was abusive". also, notice how theres about 100 times more other negative forums about HLA then just some really lame "Alumni findeachother forum".
u think some kid is gonna register on that and say "hey guys, hla scarred me, anyone remember me im doing horrible, msg back"
for christ sakes, theres such innactivity and not anything actually good to say im reading a forum on "how nice the weather is here", on that site. ITS GEORGIA! its nice out folks. parents, dont be fooled by this, or its no wonder ur childrens lives fell short and beyond your control.
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On 2005-12-29 10:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey all of you "Negs"...to be able to reconnect with old friends is the entire purpose of the hla discussion boards...y'all just can't stand anything positive coming from HLA. A lot of us have good lives and HLA helped us to get there...I'm personally glad they are not allowing all the four letter words and the totally negatives that so many of you seem to be only able to use...you have fornits and my space for that....finally... grow up and get a life! Some of us have had good experiences and probably would not be alive today had we not had HLA. That growth only comes with maturity...hope you get there someday! "
hey im glad ur doing good whichever kid u were. but PLZ PUT A CHECK NEXT TO WHICH OF THESE HELPED U GET BETTER
- forced to do physical training outside in the mud, for 2 hours sometimes
- forced to work outside, no lies- for over 12 hours, moving rocks in the sun, with sometimes no access to water for hours.
- i was on "super restrictions", i was forced to 'live' in a literally unfinished cabin with no heating/insultation, to stay warm and not become more sick (this was during sub zero winter temperatures), i had to wake up in the middle of the night, and stick Wet toilet paper in every single open area, which included holes in the frail floor.we were given 3 meals of about 600 calories each tops, sometimes more. We were forced to work ALL DAY, chopping wood- without gloves, in which 3 of us had very abusive blisters and one of mine was infected, i had to use salt from my meal to sanatize it on my own. Some of the staff had some compassion and snuck us down some food time to time, but rarely.
- During my "ridge creek experience", i was foced to sleep in a sleeping bag with a broken zipper, in the coldest temperatures i have ever dealt with, on top of an appalchian trail mountain. i didnt get any sleep that week. They even had to cover up and cancel the last week of our program because over half our group developed bronchitus, and one had a state of "shock" (epilytic i dont know names sorry) from sweating/freezing in cold temperatures. I cannot even fathom the pain / emotional damage to this student, who i think was an african american named tom. but he was making harsh breathing sounds literally ALL NIGHT. He was close to death I am sure, the counselors didnt even sleep by us, about 9 hours after he started this "Shock" the counselors returned and rushed him to a hospital.
- I was forced through therapy where people TOLD ME MY PROBLEMS, and didnt listen to the real life issues i thought i had.
- very abusive students/ a lot of bullying going on, altho i didnt face much
- people abuse drugs/ do speed dreams/ sneak in drugs
- theres so much more, if only i could remember. i remember they forced one group of students, to to a 5 day "hell hike" is what the students called it. they were forced to carry 5 gallon water jugs and many other "military" items across the apalation trail, some people even called the cops on ridge creek, the treatment was so abusive and unneeded. one of the students was the most passive and nice student i have ever known. i consider myself lucky, even tho when i tell my HLA story my friends think it sounds unbearable.
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what peer group were you in? I would like to hear from you..Please PM me..
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hey ap47, are you referring to "the challet"?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=41&3 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=14681&forum=41&3)
how is "super" restrictions different than restrictions?
why were the cops called on RC? what happened?
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I am a parent of a son attending HLA. The school may not be for everyone but it has really helped him. Every school has issues and the kids who attend with my son need a lot of structure and yes discipline.
Give the school a break. YYou don't have to like their system. Yet it does work for many kids.
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I suggest you go read, the "Rats are scurrying"
and Clarke Pooles e-mails...then, contact
Chris Allen, Clarke Poole, Bill Gray, Jeanine King,Marla McGhee.,Therena Cooke, Dr. Horwitz,
Dr. Reddick,etc...and the beat goes on.. oops, you can't..."Cease and Desist Orders".. What do you see as discipline needed..beatings and hazings from fellow students, rape,
attempted murder...?
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I was in peer group 57. theres countless abusive therapy sessions, i can probably sit down and list off them for a few hours lol.
um... super restrictions : i guess its called the challet,or whatever the cabin right near ridge creek is. super restrictions is where HLA sends kid who have done something severe or been on restrictions for a 'too long' deemed amount of time. its completely restricted from the school, u only have contact with urselves and the staff that supervise you. you do work all day , no matter the weather or if your sick. many students are just placed there by HLA until a new ridge creek rotation starts, which can be over 2 weeks sometimes. while there, and maybe the worst part, you are forced to write 40 or more pages of "therapy" a day, which nobody even reads. i can verify this because there was an assignment called "write 3 things that tramatized u in your lifetime". I knew they werent reading and it was just bullshit so i tested it and wrote "the time i rode a bike into a cow and fell into a black hole" . the assignments are pointless, repetivive, and make u feel infererior.
Those priviledge groups at HLA are complete horseshit. U have to give up time u want to life weights (which personally helped me most while i was therE), to plant flowers to support the image of the school. I don't support the school, so i guess i dont get to go watch sports teams, eat decent food, and get away with things that other kids would get on restrictions for. To be eligible for the lowest level of trips, u have to introduce yourself to 3 new people per week, and tell your life story to two people. ... there usually arent even 3 new people per week, its just another stupid system set up by HLA.
- also whats funny, many parents/students donated money for WRESTLING MATS. they guarenteed these mats countless times, and they never came. Then HLA squandered that money to spend on some pool, that came after almost all the donators were gone.
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On 2006-04-25 16:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am a parent of a son attending HLA. The school may not be for everyone but it has really helped him. Every school has issues and the kids who attend with my son need a lot of structure and yes discipline.
Give the school a break. YYou don't have to like their system. Yet it does work for many kids."
Ok, I understand that maybe it helps some people. However, HLA just generalized everyone is "screwed up" on the same degree, and gives generalized crappy therapy to everyone. Not everyone gains benefits of therapy the same ways, so why should a severe discipline technique that is many times illegal be used for the 200+ students there, even tho it only benefits like 5%, tops.
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What you are alleging HLA did to you and other students is totally illegal...Child welfare regulations clearly stipulate that..However, HLA
banks on the "bank" so to speak.. To singularly
fle a suit, is a financial disaster..to get ORS
off their--- and on HLA's is even more difficult, according to parents..
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On 2006-04-25 19:27:00, juniper2 wrote:
"What you are alleging HLA did to you and other students is totally illegal...Child welfare regulations clearly stipulate that..However, HLA
banks on the "bank" so to speak.. To singularly
fle a suit, is a financial disaster..to get ORS
off their--- and on HLA's is even more difficult, according to parents.."
Then put together a Class and call an attorney and institute a Class Action against HLA. You aren't the only angry parent. Sending your child to HLA is a "financial disaster"
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Hi, new here. PG 54 grad. Super restrictions was held at one of two locations. the chalet would have been the preferred locale, considering it actually was a building with 4 enclosed walls and a fireplace indoors. Still, there was no bathroom or appropriate sleeping accomidations, just a plywood floor with holes in it leading straight to the ground. However, most times Super was held at a... kind of oversized picnic awning with plastic walls you could roll down if it started to rain. There were 3 picnic tables and a fire pit. That was it. I was fortunate to never have to go on super and was never in any real trouble until the end of my stay where in the last phase of "Galaxy level" i did a stint at RCI. I would be pleased to answer any questions you all have about this ghastly place honestly, with no simple "fuck HLA" padding to confuse the truth. I've found that of the angry graduates who really had important things to say about HLA after leaving, the ones that simply take the route of "fuck HLA its fucked up, blow it up" rarely get taken seriously. So please, I would love to be involved in the thought provoking and truth seeking conversations that arise here.
And BTW... I loved the "this Aften character again" line i read earlier. I was in her PG, and Aften was involved in a lesbian relationship with one kitchen staff and also a romantic relationship with a nurse in her time at Hidden Lake. IMHO, she is a disturbed young lady with very skewed views on what happened at HLA. She posts frequently on MySpace as well, on the Alum page, and was actually banned from one, and almost from another because of her inflammitory remarks. Us former students dont usually like our opinions of the realities that really went on at that place to be invalidated (especially by someone we shared the experiences with.) Its all too familiar of one certain facility.
Happy posting.
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Would you be willing to post the link to her ramblinigs?
I always got a huge kick out of her nonsense and would love to remind her of it.
So what were you sent for?
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http://tinyurl.com/yj7f3b (http://tinyurl.com/yj7f3b)
Just one of many. If you look back through the old topics, theres more interspersed. I thought it was mildly amusing, however I think my mouth got me into a bit of trouble. Oh well, what can you do?
My situation was an interesting one. Probably in all of this it will reveal who I am, but I'm not worried. My parents had been in a wonderful litigation process since i was about 8 because of their divorce, and it continued on for a long time. There were custody issues at the time i was admitted to HLA. I had just come out of another RTC and a wilderness before that. Instead of thrusting me into the mix of this insane court procession by allowing me to return home, they decided to send me to a kind of inbetween point until things were worked out. Both my parents were assured that I could stay at HLA for 3 months or so until the court proceedings were over and then they could reasess my admittance with no penalty. They were very very wrong. I served my entire term there, a full 22 months, and graduated. All the while, i found out that they had tried to strip my mother (at the time, an unemployed single mother, but the only one of my two parents who really cared about my well being) of her decision- making ability as my custodial parent, and through a guardian ad laudem (sp?) and a new ed con, grant my father (a retired VP of a defense contracting co. for upward of 20 years, Mr. Moneybags as I lovingly call him) sole custody.
So short answer, I was initially sent to treatment in general for a multitude of diagnosis they INFORMED me i had (Bi-Polar, knocked down to BPD, ODD, PTSD, etc...) all of which have since been disproven. I am no longer on any meds, nor see a therapist.
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On 2006-04-27 10:18:00, Lacey wrote:
"http://tinyurl.com/yj7f3b
Just one of many. If you look back through the old topics, theres more interspersed. I thought it was mildly amusing, however I think my mouth got me into a bit of trouble. Oh well, what can you do?
My situation was an interesting one. Probably in all of this it will reveal who I am, but I'm not worried. My parents had been in a wonderful litigation process since i was about 8 because of their divorce, and it continued on for a long time. There were custody issues at the time i was admitted to HLA. I had just come out of another RTC and a wilderness before that. Instead of thrusting me into the mix of this insane court procession by allowing me to return home, they decided to send me to a kind of inbetween point until things were worked out. Both my parents were assured that I could stay at HLA for 3 months or so until the court proceedings were over and then they could reasess my admittance with no penalty. They were very very wrong. I served my entire term there, a full 22 months, and graduated. All the while, i found out that they had tried to strip my mother (at the time, an unemployed single mother, but the only one of my two parents who really cared about my well being) of her decision- making ability as my custodial parent, and through a guardian ad laudem (sp?) and a new ed con, grant my father (a retired VP of a defense contracting co. for upward of 20 years, Mr. Moneybags as I lovingly call him) sole custody.
So short answer, I was initially sent to treatment in general for a multitude of diagnosis they INFORMED me i had (Bi-Polar, knocked down to BPD, ODD, PTSD, etc...) all of which have since been disproven. I am no longer on any meds, nor see a therapist. "
Are you saying that HLA was trying to strip your mom of decision-making ability and custody?
And the idea that ANYONE could go to HLA for just 3 months is such a joke. They will tell you ANYHING to get you sucked in. It's infuriating how they lie and manipulate the parents (not to mention the kids.)
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lol i remember aften, she was one crazy woman-thing. umm i couldnt find where she rambled could anyone create a link (to her text on this forums)on these forums?[ This Message was edited by: ap47 on 2006-04-29 08:21 ]
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She also posted under realworld
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As of April 27th the pool is still not finished.
When we visited last summer we were led to believe
that the pool would be finished very soon. I guess
it all depends on what you mean by "very soon."
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Not surprising...till then the kids have acess to the lake....which they cannot swim in.
How's the horse program coming, according to latest reports it should have been done last february.
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On 2006-04-30 08:34:00, hla mom wrote:
"As of April 27th the pool is still not finished.
When we visited last summer we were led to believe
that the pool would be finished very soon. I guess
it all depends on what you mean by "very soon.""
Don't feel bad. When I first visited in 2003 I was led to believe the chapel would be finished "very soon."
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As of April 27th the pool is still not finished.
When we visited last summer we were led to believe
that the pool would be finished very soon. I guess
it all depends on what you mean by "very soon."
Kathleen reported that the pool is open and being used "daily".
Treebir
Registered Member
Posts: 1
(7/29/06 11:43 am)
Reply Pool
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Does anyone know when the pool will be ready for use?
kmfh10
Website Moderator
Posts: 37
(9/8/06 2:37 pm)
Reply Re: Pool
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Hi...it's open and beautiful...the student's are using it daily and loving it! Wish I could show you a photo...it is really nice.
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As of April 27th the pool is still not finished.
When we visited last summer we were led to believe
that the pool would be finished very soon. I guess
it all depends on what you mean by "very soon."
Kathleen reported that the pool is open and being used "daily".
Treebir
Registered Member
Posts: 1
(7/29/06 11:43 am)
Reply Pool
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Does anyone know when the pool will be ready for use?
kmfh10
Website Moderator
Posts: 37
(9/8/06 2:37 pm)
Reply Re: Pool
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Hi...it's open and beautiful...the student's are using it daily and loving it! Wish I could show you a photo...it is really nice.
Then show a photo of it. While you're at it show us a photo of the chapel....