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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 15, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
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WHAT LEAVES ME ABSOLUTELY SPEEHLESS IS THE FACT THAT NOONE HAS SPOKEN UP (LOUDLY) ABOUT THIS "SCHOOL". WHAT IS GOING ON. IF WE KNOW THERE ARE "ISSUES" THERE AND WE FEAR FOR OUR KIDS, WHY ARE WE NOT BANDING TOGETHER TO CLOSE THIS FACILITY?? ONE PERSON CANNOT MAKE THIS HAPPEN, WHERE ARE THE PARENTS, AND WHY WON'T YOU PUSH BACK?
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Hhahahahaaa!!! Shut the Hyde School down? Please, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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On 2005-12-15 16:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"WHAT LEAVES ME ABSOLUTELY SPEEHLESS IS THE FACT THAT NOONE HAS SPOKEN UP (LOUDLY) ABOUT THIS "SCHOOL". WHAT IS GOING ON. IF WE KNOW THERE ARE "ISSUES" THERE AND WE FEAR FOR OUR KIDS, WHY ARE WE NOT BANDING TOGETHER TO CLOSE THIS FACILITY?? ONE PERSON CANNOT MAKE THIS HAPPEN, WHERE ARE THE PARENTS, AND WHY WON'T YOU PUSH BACK? "
The first thing one must do is to write to the NEASC. If they get enough complaints something will be done! Secondly it would be helpful to bring this to the attention of the media! If you know how to do this, please help us.
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WHY CANT EVERYONE WRITE TO THE ISAC AND MAKE COMPLAINTS,AND,OR, TELL THEIR STORIES? MAYBE SOMEONE WILL START TAKING A LOOK?? ATTRTACT THE MEDIA, LOVE IT, NOONE HAS A CONNECTION? COME ON PEOPLE THINK!! THIS STORY DESERVES ACTION AND QUICK!!
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On 2005-12-15 18:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"WHY CANT EVERYONE WRITE TO THE ISAC AND MAKE COMPLAINTS,AND,OR, TELL THEIR STORIES? MAYBE SOMEONE WILL START TAKING A LOOK?? ATTRTACT THE MEDIA, LOVE IT, NOONE HAS A CONNECTION? COME ON PEOPLE THINK!! THIS STORY DESERVES ACTION AND QUICK!!"
HAHAHAAAA!!!! :lol: :lol: You think you can shut down Hyde? Whataya nuts?? Jesus you people are confused!
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Parents who have complaints about Hyde should share their information with:
The International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC), which investigates complaints and, when necessary, contacts local officials and places the program on its watch list: http://www.isaccorp.org/index.html (http://www.isaccorp.org/index.html)
The New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC), the organization that accredits Hyde. NEASC has a formal mechanism to process complaints: http://www.neasc.org/cis/cis.htm (http://www.neasc.org/cis/cis.htm)
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On 2005-12-15 18:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"WHY CANT EVERYONE WRITE TO THE ISAC AND MAKE COMPLAINTS,AND,OR, TELL THEIR STORIES? MAYBE SOMEONE WILL START TAKING A LOOK?? ATTRTACT THE MEDIA, LOVE IT, NOONE HAS A CONNECTION? COME ON PEOPLE THINK!! THIS STORY DESERVES ACTION AND QUICK!!"
What is the ISAC? I have never heard of this.
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If all it takes is an infinite number of monkeys w/ keyboards, why is there no Shakespeare coming out of AOL?
No, the first thing one must do is to come to terms with where Hyde and all of the other programs just like it (Synanon style TCs) fit into our society. It's an ugly subject. But it seems pretty evident that it's not just this one maniac and his few followers. There's a market for this sick shit throughout the country and even Europe and, I hear tell, Saudi Arabia.
People have been speaking up, pretty loudly. Look outside of the discussion on just this one school and find out about all the litigation, shocking news stories and other muck raking that has surrounded these groups since the daze of Manson and Synanon. Trouble is, nobody cares. People are more afraid of the mythical juvenile super monster on Angel Dust than the reality of how these places operate.
As Pogo said, we have met the enemy and the enemy is us.
I think Hyde will either implode or quietly fade away like most fringe cults do. We get crushed in the first three, four years of school...We're trained to become parrots. We're trained to learn information and give it back at test time. But we're not taught to think. We're not taught how to access genius.
--Victor Villasenor, author of Burro Genius (2004)
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`80 - `82
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Wow! Hot topic!
Yes, write to ISAC. That's one good way to help wake people up about this scam.
For the most part we inherit our opinions. We are the heirs of habits and mental customs. Our beliefs, like the fashion of our garments, depend on where we were born. We are molded and fashioned by our surroundings.
--Environment is a sculptor -- a painter.
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I dont get it Antigen, Hyde is a great school that helped out SO many kids, myself included.These people here are over-reacting.
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IS THERE A REASON THAT WITH ALL THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING ON WITH THIS SCHOOL THAT DISGRUNTELED PARENTS HAVE NOT BEEN ANGRY ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING? YOU WOULD THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THE NEWS, BEING SPOKEN ABOUT. HOW HAS THIS SCHOOL CONTINUED? WE ARE HERE WRITING AND READING, CANT WE AS A GROUP START SOMETHING?
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I also think that when the anti-Hyde posters on this board try to "band together", they will find that there are only a handful of people writting most of these negative comments.
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There are only a handful of people defending Hyde. Interesting, too, in that it's the same few people over a very long period of time. Only one critic, Tommy, comes to mind as having been on the issue, perennially, for years. All the rest are different people who come along w/ essentially the same set of complaints.
Honestly, you're just off base here, anon. And it's funny as hell to me. This is one of your most consistant, persistant claims; that only a few bellyachers have a problem w/ the Program. The vast majority are quite happy. Straight said the same thing. The Seed said the same thing. WWASP says the same thing. Bethel, same. Right on down the line. The more you guys try to distinguish yourselves, the more you prove out the case for your opposition.
Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.
Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
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But Anti...you have no clue about what Hyde is all about...you're lumping it into your seed program or whatever you call it...it seems you're just hanging around as a cheerleader without a clue.
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And I am NOT saying that there are only a few people having a hard time with Hyde's philosophy...what I AM saying is that there are just a handful of people writing a lot of stuff on this board.
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On 2005-12-16 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"And I am NOT saying that there are only a few people having a hard time with Hyde's philosophy...what I AM saying is that there are just a handful of people writing a lot of stuff on this board."
You are definitely right about that, I love Hyde
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On 2005-12-16 11:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-16 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"And I am NOT saying that there are only a few people having a hard time with Hyde's philosophy...what I AM saying is that there are just a handful of people writing a lot of stuff on this board."
You are definitely right about that, I love Hyde"
I went to Hyde for 2 1/2 years and I can tell you as honest as honest can be, the followers of Hyde are far and few between. First of all, VERY FEW people who started with me graduated with me. It just isn't true that some of us "had a hard time." I guess there are some people in jail who also play the game, cooperate, and don't have a difficult time getting through 2 or 3 years of incarcaration! It isn't a matter of Hyde being "easy" or "hard" it is a matter of Hyde being ineffective, dangerous, Cult like, and on and on! I won't bore you with saying the same things that everyone else is writing, but Hyde is a Cult with Cult Like followers who are going to praise the school. Fine if you need this structure in order to live your life, but most normal, intelligent, secure people do not need a Cult to help them through life and Hyde is this!
I witnessed many terrible things at Hyde by the staff and "Seniors" and it was not normal stuff, believe me! Now that I am out I can see even more how bad Hyde is. I do not recommend it to any parent and instead would consult a very good educational consultant who only recommends schools that have a higher degree of education than Hyde and also have professional staff on duty who can deal with the psychological issues most of the students have.
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What are the policy's on sex at The Hyde School? Do students regularly engage in sexual activity ON CAMPUS? What are the rules? What are the odds that my teen will be having sex with other students? Thanks..Any and all information thats TRUE would be greatly appreciated
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The vast majority are quite happy.
I believe this is a very good assumption, which can apply to just about any service. If a person feels cheated or abused by someone or doesnt get what they think they honestly deserve they are more likely to step up and rattle the cage, write letters and scream foul. I believe the opposite to be true, if a person feels satisfied with what he/she received they are more apt to recommend it to others or solicit their opinion, if asked. But as a group I think they are less likely to spend hours on the internet or writing letters to their congressmen or hire lawyers etc. People just dont have that passion to rattle cages when they have been satisfied.
This is a generalization which supports an opinion that since there is not an overwhelming number of Hyde or RTC supporters that they dont exist in large numbers.
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On 2005-12-16 12:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-16 11:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-16 10:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"And I am NOT saying that there are only a few people having a hard time with Hyde's philosophy...what I AM saying is that there are just a handful of people writing a lot of stuff on this board."
You are definitely right about that, I love Hyde"
I went to Hyde for 2 1/2 years and I can tell you as honest as honest can be, the followers of Hyde are far and few between. First of all, VERY FEW people who started with me graduated with me. It just isn't true that some of us "had a hard time." I guess there are some people in jail who also play the game, cooperate, and don't have a difficult time getting through 2 or 3 years of incarcaration! It isn't a matter of Hyde being "easy" or "hard" it is a matter of Hyde being ineffective, dangerous, Cult like, and on and on! I won't bore you with saying the same things that everyone else is writing, but Hyde is a Cult with Cult Like followers who are going to praise the school. Fine if you need this structure in order to live your life, but most normal, intelligent, secure people do not need a Cult to help them through life and Hyde is this!
I witnessed many terrible things at Hyde by the staff and "Seniors" and it was not normal stuff, believe me! Now that I am out I can see even more how bad Hyde is. I do not recommend it to any parent and instead would consult a very good educational consultant who only recommends schools that have a higher degree of education than Hyde and also have professional staff on duty who can deal with the psychological issues most of the students have."
Your experience at Hyde is nearly identical to mine. I agree with everything you've said, especially the part about how few Hyde students really buy into the Hyde propaganda; most just play the game. It really does seem like a cult. And so many kids leave Hyde before graduating.
When did you attend Hyde?