Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 01:15:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 01:30:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 01:45:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 01:47:00 AM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 01:58:00 AM
BUT, Brains are an emulsifier! Well thats one reason why you use them to tan hides, LOL
By no means should you use brains in brownies though, LOL
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:04:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 02:09:00 AM
It is the action of forcing 2 unattracted substances to mix. But you must add a 3rd substance which has special enzymes to allow the 2 previous compounds to blend. Like in the salad dressing, something is in them that makes them stay mixxed.. Try this, or imagine it: Oil and vinegar in a jar, shake, notice it doesn't stay mixxed, add an egg, shake, notice the mixture remains mixxed. Making an emulsion.
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:15:00 AM
emulsifier: n : a surface-active agent that promotes the formation of an emulsion
hmm. uh, yea, like that really clears things up.
so here we go:
e·mul·sion (-mlshn)
n. A suspension of small globules of one liquid in a second liquid with which the first will not mix.
OMG I'm out. Time to watch the Colbert Report
Post by: Gah on December 14, 2005, 02:21:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:24:00 AM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 02:24:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 02:26:00 AM
DELIBERATELY all over his clean bed for a week. The problem disappeared
completely. It teaches your mind/body that you have control.
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:26:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
I think a 14 day evaluation is in order here. :lol:
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 02:35:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:36:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:42:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 02:45:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:47:00 AM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 02:48:00 AM
[ This Message was edited by: Withdraw on 2005-12-13 23:52 ]
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 02:49:00 AM
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On 2005-12-13 23:42:00, Str8survivor wrote:
"anything like what? Xanax? Xanax is just an anti-anxiety drug. Does not produce a "high" or anything like that. Just helps with the paranoia and social anxiety that I believe that most of us experience. Helps with panic-attack type symtoms.."
But does it make you overly tired or oblivious to what's going on? Does it alter your brain chemistry?[ This Message was edited by: Withdraw on 2005-12-13 23:51 ]
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 02:51:00 AM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 02:58:00 AM
There was a time when we would have been protected as important peoples. But today... we are a threat to those who control us.
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 03:01:00 AM
Withdraw, I think your correct in your theory.
Post by: Gah on December 14, 2005, 03:05:00 AM
Post by: Str8survivor on December 14, 2005, 03:21:00 AM
shut them up.[ This Message was edited by: Str8survivor on 2005-12-14 00:24 ]
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 03:43:00 AM
Sorry, I feel the same about alcohol. I have to think they kept it illegal because it makes you not think.. as where pot makes you think. So of course they can't have a bunch of thinking people out here in the world....Don't get me wrong, I drink a few times a year../shrug. But it's with this awareness.
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 04:00:00 AM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 04:25:00 AM
Bottom line is, I believe many people are waking up to the reaility here and the more who wake up... the greater/stronger the collective conscience will become and will bring about change. I think we are already seeing this happen, and it is a slow process.. we didn't get to here over night.
Thanks for this conversation tonight, I am finding myself once again. I really had thought I had lost me, but I'm right here where I am spose to be :smile: What a relief. Enough of my way of thinking! Sometimes, people tend to be inable to understand me... Sorry , I was just born this way.
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 08:43:00 AM
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On 2005-12-13 23:58:00, Withdraw wrote:
"well, I edited out the juicy part...but you see why I can't take anything like that. I'm not saying it wouldn't help the symptons I experience, but as you see I believe those of us who have this are special.. and honestly there was a time when we all would have been revered as Healers/seers/visionarys(sp)...I don't think there is anything wrong with us at all. I think society has to subdue us to continue their lie.
There was a time when we would have been protected as important peoples. But today... we are a threat to those who control us."
Interesting theories there, wd, but i think it's as simple as supply and demand. if you can convince some mofo that he needs xanax for his anxiety, then you can sell it to him. pretty simple.
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 08:51:00 AM
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On 2005-12-14 00:43:00, Withdraw wrote:
"Funny we are talking about this.. That info-mercial about the book on natrual remedies is on. The man was discussing Prozak and told of a kid somewhere who killed a bunch of people while taking prozak.. He said drugs like this are the greatest crime against humanity! I agree. I really believe all these drugs are being made to harm us and they way we think, on purpose.
Sorry, I feel the same about alcohol. I have to think they kept it illegal because it makes you not think.. as where pot makes you think. So of course they can't have a bunch of thinking people out here in the world....Don't get me wrong, I drink a few times a year../shrug. But it's with this awareness."
And just when i thought it couldn't get any MORE half-baked, haha. i think it's all about $$, it usually is, isn't it? let's make some drugs to treat "disorders" and push it on the general public. all kinds of ppl take these fucking pills, not just "us," wd. :roll:
And the second bit there -- it prolly has MORE to do w/ hemp & the logging industry than it has to do w/ keeping the sacred herb illegal b/c it makes you think. fuck it, alcohol can MAKE YOU THINK TOO, on another level, though granted it does not work wonders for the temper or for operating motor vehicles...liver, etc. Pot ain't 100% GOOD for you either, unless you can afford to cook it into your food (thus avoiding damage to lung tissue) and get high that way. Enough of this conspiracy bs, it's about the almighty DOLLAR, it always HAS been, and it always WILL BE.
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 08:53:00 AM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
BTW, Obviously us aren't the only people use use these manufactured (psycho-tropic,brain chemistry altering/suppressing) drugs....But it is people like us all over the world, people who think outside the box. These people are being suppressed for a reason. A reason we may not yet fully understand, but we are being targeted. Is it a conspiracy? Well, I don't think that. I just think it is part of the bigger plan of growth for this world. That you can't go up till you hit bottom theroy. And we all can see the world is crashing to the bottom all too quickly. I personally must believe it is for a greater good, or my purpose here would be nil.
Drugs that supposedly treat illness such as: heart disease, or heartburn etc.. , I believe too often make the problem worse or cause other problems which lead to further need for more prescribed medications, thus creating a circle in which we are encouraged to continue through many generations. Eventually altering our genetic make-up.
I am not even sure the people who perpetuate this, know that is what they are doing. Maybe they truely believe they are helping the world, just like some say about what they did in Straight (mainly staff, and parents). People are easily led, we all know this as fact. So I must ask myself what is driving those at the top? Who are they following? I don't even think they know.
It doesn't matter if anyone thinks like I do, I was asked, so I answered what I thought. I don't need your approval to believe in myself and the way I think of things. Just as you don't need mine. And that is what makes us great beings....Free will.
edit a spelling error! I am brainwashed you know, to care about how I spell, so it doesn't adversly affect others... :wink: [ This Message was edited by: Withdraw on 2005-12-14 10:05 ]
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 02:38:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on December 14, 2005, 02:52:00 PM
--S. Gilbert
I think we're at a point in history where we're reaping the fruits (good and ill) of the industrial revolution. You can learn a whole lot about the original vision and intent of our masters by looking closely at our education system. John Taylor Gatto has done some excellent research into that. Here's one relavent chapter from his book:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/13g.htm (http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/13g.htm)
These are no dark, closely held secrets. The intent is quite clear and has always been stated plainly, but in publications and venues not usually read or readily accessible to us plebes. And you can thank those tie dyed hippie stoners who, early on, associated with that renegade John Perry Barlow @ The Well for forcing open a crack in that wall http://www.well.com/ (http://www.well.com/)
All this fall-out, the psyche drugs and medical drugs that only make us sicker, the prohibitions on good stuff that helps us to be well, this is all, in my opinion, right in line w/ those imutable laws of nature. Specifically, the law of unintended consequences.
Yes, clearly, obviously and openly stated, 'they' set out to 'adjust' the culture and habits of our grandparents who were then the children of 'uncultured' agrarian immigrants. To the industrialists, independent thought among us unwashed masses was a big problem. In order to bring about their Utopia, their Chataqua, they had to supplant our independence, our native cultures, our un-uniformity. And so they have, to some degree. But I don't think it's a lost cause at all. I think the human spirit is just as strong and imutable as the horse spirit or the dog spirit or the bird spirit. In fact, I rather suspect we're all part of the same spirit. And that spirit is laughing now through our tears.
They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I'm rambling now, trying to find a way to say something that I think we all already know. Take, for example, a little boy or girl who cannot or will not sit quietly and pretend that the teacher is interesting and worthy of respect or that what she wants the kid to think about is worthy of their attention. That's a problem to someone who takes as a given the idea that schooling must take place for the sake of this child and all the others locked into that room till the pavlovian bell on the wall marks the end of this segment of their 12 year sentence. That problem, the problem of an independent, energetic child who instinctively withholds respect and attention unless someone earns it, can be solved in a number of ways. To the pedagog, it looks for all the world asif they've helped the kid and done a good thing by bringing about this change in the child's will or behavior or even belief.
Just another brick in the road to hell.
So yeah, it is, I think, a grand conspiracy to squash the good and natural and wonderful independent spirit in us. But we'll never convince the true believers of their guilt in this. They think it's a good thing to do to and for us. We just have to hook up w/ others who have recognized the evil in this plan and quit following the plan. That's all.
Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.
Mahatma Gandhi, My Autobigraphy, p. 446
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Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82
Post by: dragonfly on December 14, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
As far as the Grande conspiracy, I beleive it is out-of-this world. I tend to believe we are but an end product of a larger devolpment. I know some may see that as far fetched, but I do not. This is also where I butt heads with many people here on so many topics. I don't know how to explain it, except through spirituality, which draws alot of debate here. And I have said it before, Debate is good and welcomed, it allows us all to grow. This is why I truly felt gratitude for those who oppose my views, this morning I could see how it forced me to get clear in myself about what my intentions are in this world. I am a spiritual being, I can not hide that, nor should I have to.
In a world of chaos, I must find a way to thrive and grow. This happenes to be my way, to believe what I do. I am not so diffrent from many people in the world who are trying to understand. I could go on citing proof and links of other people who are thinking like me and taking action, but I'm not trying to convince anyone here. I am just making my statement for my own personal growth and divine confirmation.
Post by: dragonfly on December 14, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 04:04:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 12:21:00, Withdraw wrote:
"Thanks, Ginger. I tend to think in a more of a cosmic way and find it difficult to explain my thoughts in a earthly/concrete manner.
WD, we live on earth....y'best get used to it. I suggest that you go emulsify an animal hide & think about what I said. Now git! :flame: :lol:
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 04:04:00 PM
After 3 years, I picked up my drum this morning and remembered what it meant to me. I will make a point to re-connect with my drum. Don't laugh! To a native person, their drum is sacred, and I have neglected the spirit in my drum. I remember making it and setting my intention to use it for healing. I remember thanking the animal who gave it's life. I will no longer neglect the animal in my drum, who came to me to assist me in healing. On the day I made it, this is what I wrote inside the rim: This day I claim my spirit as my one true possesion, NO ONE owns it or is responsible for it other than me.
Thank you all, Everyone here has helped me remember Who I am.
No one laugh! LOL, I warned you I was different :razz:
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 13:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"QuoteOn 2005-12-14 12:21:00, Withdraw wrote:
"Thanks, Ginger. I tend to think in a more of a cosmic way and find it difficult to explain my thoughts in a earthly/concrete manner.
WD, we live on earth....y'best get used to it. I suggest that you go emulsify an animal hide & think about what I said. Now git! :flame: :razz:
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: Withdraw on December 14, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
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Post by: Antigen on December 14, 2005, 06:57:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 12:10:00, dragonfly wrote:
"Holy Sheep Shit Ginger,
You're getting downright eloquent with those sermons. You ever consider starting a religion or a revolution or something? "
Why thank you! I've thought of it. But I'm really sort of wating to see what happens w/ Rabbi Doperman's gig. Might be easier to just jump on his train, ya know? Plus, if it all goes horribly wrong, I was just a deluded follower, ya know? I was misguided, not culpable. But if I ever do start a religion, it'll have just one tenet:
so long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?
--stephen Hawking, English scientist
Post by: Antigen on December 14, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 05:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
Interesting theories there, wd, but i think it's as simple as supply and demand. if you can convince some mofo that he needs xanax for his anxiety, then you can sell it to him. pretty simple."
That doesn't explain the half of it, anon. Why go to all the expense and trouble? Why not just convince them that something harmless were the end all cure all? Of course, it would have to be restrictable. If you go around telling people to use valerian root, for example, well they'll just grow some and use it and you make nothing. So I understand the regulation, certification, prescription requirements and other affectations and props and pillars of guildmanship. However, why not use an equally restrictable but benign compound? There are millions of choices. Why go to all the trouble to design and promote these particular compounds that all do these fairly specific things?
I don't think we're here for anything, we're just products of evolution. You can say 'Gee, your life must be pretty bleak if you don't think there's a purpose' but I'm anticipating a good lunch.
--Dr. James Watson, American biologist
Post by: Antigen on December 14, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 12:38:00, dragonfly wrote:
All these damn ideas about being functional. All this deep conditioning and work ethic brainwahing. I just want to develop my ability to create through intention. Where does my addiction to struggle come from? Like I told Beth, I just want sometimes to sit and watch my cats sleep, many days that is the extent of my ambition. Some where a voice tells me that watching a cat sleep is not a valid days activity.
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Oh, I don't think it's all brainwashing. What critter have you ever seen who didn't go merrily and entheusiastic about his purpose. Some play more than others, like deer and seals and dogs. Some seem to be doing a whole lot of nothing while dedicating themselves w/ total abandon to being what they are. I've often wanted to be a lizard. Not like a geko or gator or anything, no. I have always been jealous of the company and belongerhood of those little greay lizzards in Florida. Or a spider. Ah, the life of a spider. Do a little macreme, then go meditate for awhile. Maybe a little more macreme, or some food prep or a snack, then more meditation. I wonder what they're thinking about?
But every critter on this planet unselfconciously and w/o complaint or affectation just does their job, except a couple. People and a few others very like us.
...to disarm the people (is) the best and most effective way to enslave them...
-- George Mason
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 08:23:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 16:06:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-12-14 05:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
Interesting theories there, wd, but i think it's as simple as supply and demand. if you can convince some mofo that he needs xanax for his anxiety, then you can sell it to him. pretty simple."
That doesn't explain the half of it, anon. Why go to all the expense and trouble? Why not just convince them that something harmless were the end all cure all? Of course, it would have to be restrictable. If you go around telling people to use valerian root, for example, well they'll just grow some and use it and you make nothing. So I understand the regulation, certification, prescription requirements and other affectations and props and pillars of guildmanship. However, why not use an equally restrictable but benign compound? There are millions of choices. Why go to all the trouble to design and promote these particular compounds that all do these fairly specific things?
I don't know......you tell me.
Post by: Antigen on December 14, 2005, 11:49:00 PM
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On 2005-12-14 17:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-14 16:06:00, Antigen wrote:
There are millions of choices. Why go to all the trouble to design and promote these particular compounds that all do these fairly specific things?
I don't know......you tell me. "
Well, one would suppose that whoever has sway in which magical mystery cures rate wants these specific kinds of effects. They view them as beneficial in some way. Like, ferinstance, a magical pill that makes people who are getting the shitty end of the stick feel like they're being pampered.
You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough.
--Aldous Huxley, author
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2005, 11:58:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on December 15, 2005, 12:15:00 AM
In order to live free and happily you must sacrifice boredom. It is not always an easy sacrifice.
-- Richard Bach
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2005, 12:17:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on December 15, 2005, 12:38:00 AM
Ok, what do you think? I think I offered a pretty compelling one, supported by some pretty good references. Basically, the same reason why, despite the obvious adverse side effects, the people who run these programs do what they do. Sure, money's a big part of it. But there's something even more evil than that; altruism. These folks actually think we're better off by their help; that it's worth the risk, that we're too mixed up or disordered to make these choices, so they are bound by their high stations in life to make them for us. They think they're fixing us.
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those that torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."--C.S. Lewis, God In The Dock
The memory of my own suffering has prevented me from ever shadowing one young soul with the superstitions of the Christian religion.
--Elizabeth Cady-Stanton
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
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Do you accept, for the sake of this discussion, that there are other motives?
Yes; or if not "motives" per se, then "reasons" other than just money. I just don't know if I'd go so far as wd did about there being some dark, ulterior motive (that word again) for their stupidity.
Post by: Withdraw on December 15, 2005, 12:57:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2005, 07:56:00 AM
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On 2005-12-14 15:57:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-12-14 12:10:00, dragonfly wrote:
"Holy Sheep Shit Ginger,
You're getting downright eloquent with those sermons. You ever consider starting a religion or a revolution or something? "
Why thank you! I've thought of it. But I'm really sort of wating to see what happens w/ Rabbi Doperman's gig. Might be easier to just jump on his train, ya know? Plus, if it all goes horribly wrong, I was just a deluded follower, ya know? I was misguided, not culpable. But if I ever do start a religion, it'll have just one tenet:so long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?
--stephen Hawking, English scientist
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I think you should "keep up the good work",OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE!
Nobody here needs to read your comments,so fuck off and do your "magic",but we dont want to read about it here from you.
Post by: ex-prisoner on December 15, 2005, 08:32:00 AM
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On 2005-12-14 12:38:00, dragonfly wrote:
"You and Ginger both.
I am again spending a whole day just getting my shit together, trying to get my head out of the sky and my feet on the ground. What to do with all this potentiality and how to share it with the world. All these damn ideas about being functional. All this deep conditioning and work ethic brainwahing. I just want to develop my ability to create through intention. Where does my addiction to struggle come from? Like I told Beth, I just want sometimes to sit and watch my cats sleep, many days that is the extent of my ambition. Some where a voice tells me that watching a cat sleep is not a valid days activity.
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see this is why i like to watch monkey movies, the cinema verite variety in the jungles of madagascar and so on. these chimps and gorillas get together and ponder over strange insects, they while away a morning and an afternoon fishing ants out of an ant hill with little sticks - no easy feat as you can see the little chimp working on his ant fishing skills. they like to steal stuff and get away with it. they work out who gets to eat first and so on. just monkeys. they don't go to church, they don't feel too guilty about this and that. one big guy gets out of hand, he gets told off so he backs off for a while.
they even get drunk i am not shitting you off fermenting fruits and so on. sometimes the big guys like to run back and forth and stomp and pound things and in general cause a lot of excitement and respect for the noise making.
i like to know what people are doing and how they are doing it. i think i get what Ginger is driving at, what John Gatto is driving at, and pirate too: the brainwash institution. it's like a fuck of a bad dog trainer who teaches a poor dog all sorts of useless tricks like how to show up on time and which fork to use. alas for all my mother's trouble, i still don't get the dessert fork thing. i messed it up on Thanksgiving at someone else's house. i got a little red-faced I suspect.
like I was saying in this other post about time torture, i kinda think that gets in there and pretends to be some basic instinct: rush and worry, then some of us crash having been too severely subjected to hateful rush and worry and perpetuating in our spirits such dreadful lessons... the seasons do things for our instincts naturally when required. suddenly in October we get some cold days and people are harvesting, people are putting up what they need, running around, they don't know exactly why.
i think it is worthwhile to be curious. dragonfly, you want to watch your cats i think that is exactly the medicine you need. i don't want to be told when or anything. i think in my spirit i am in some ways still waking up on a school day or on a Straight day. some of the damage is done by all those days waking up too early day after day and under heavy time and other demands to make your body and mind do what somebody else says to do that doesn't even make sense with your own talents and heart, like are you good at beading, making blankets, building lodges, making knives and other tools, and art, entering the divine. are you good at gossip, are you good at spying, are you good at tracking. see, i think monkeys wake up and they are really glad. anyways, that is why it is fascinating to watch them and cats and dogs. they don't pace around wondering what to do with their day, fretting the time and all. that anyone does could well be proof of a perversion in their training.
Post by: teachback on December 15, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
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Oh no, not a dark motive. I said I believe it is for the greater good of the world as a whole. That what goes down, must come up.
I like your optimism, but who you tryin' to jive w/ that cosmic debris? :lol:
Post by: teachback on December 15, 2005, 08:44:00 AM
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On 2005-12-14 21:57:00, Withdraw wrote:
"Oh no, not a dark motive. I said I believe it is for the greater good of the world as a whole. That what goes down, must come up. I do not fully understand it myself. I just believe it will bring us into a new way of percieving the past and oppression. I merely believe it is part of growth. That is not a dark motive or conspiracy at all, but an intense lesson of truth and mis-truth. A training session of how people can learn to weild the truth and effect change with accuracy and effectivness, simply, with-out harming others."
So...uh...back to the subject of prescribed meds...
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
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i still don't get the dessert fork thing. i messed it up on Thanksgiving at someone else's house. i got a little red-faced I suspect.
:rofl: :wave:
Post by: teachback on December 15, 2005, 08:53:00 AM
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i think it is worthwhile to be curious. dragonfly, you want to watch your cats i think that is exactly the medicine you need. i don't want to be told when or anything. i think in my spirit i am in some ways still waking up on a school day or on a Straight day. some of the damage is done by all those days waking up too early day after day and under heavy time and other demands to make your body and mind do what somebody else says to do that doesn't even make sense with your own talents and heart, like are you good at beading, making blankets, building lodges, making knives and other tools, and art, entering the divine. are you good at gossip, are you good at spying, are you good at tracking. see, i think monkeys wake up and they are really glad. anyways, that is why it is fascinating to watch them and cats and dogs. they don't pace around wondering what to do with their day, fretting the time and all. that anyone does could well be proof of a perversion in their training.
Keep talkin...makes me wanna say, "Fuck this 'syphilized' society shit...just gimme a cave, a bonfire & spit, some fresh meat, maybe some mussels to roast too, and oh yeah -- a machete to hack down any predators, and I'm good. Humans... who needs 'em." :grin:
Post by: dragonfly on December 15, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on December 15, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
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On 2005-12-14 21:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"QuoteDo you accept, for the sake of this discussion, that there are other motives?
Yes; or if not "motives" per se, then "reasons" other than just money. I just don't know if I'd go so far as wd did about there being some dark, ulterior motive (that word again) for their stupidity. "
Well, see, to the behaviorists and the benevolent bringers of the new world order, there's nothing dark about it. Who's the typical Prozac user? They say women in Utah use a whole lot of the shit. Utah's one of them there near theocracy states where everything's clean and everyone smiles while they go about their work. And they're all smiling about the same thing; that Utopian dream of a caffeen free afterlife. Only some folks evidently aren't so pleased w/ the here and now.
But of course, it's good for them. Why, those Morman women and children, they can't go about disrupting and undermining the glorious Mormon neo-paradise, criticizing their Saints and masters, can they? So, from that point of view, aren't they far better off w/ mother's little helper to close the gap and make them feel just fine about it all?
Same with school kids. Same w/ us bad and rebellious kids who frightened our parents so cruelly, who courted disaster and the 'drug culture'. Ask Betty Sembler, she'll tell ya' just what I'm saying. We all are better off for their kind and longsuffering benevolence. Why, they saved our very lives! And those of us who are not 100% satisfied customers, why we're disordered. We could use a little more treatment to make us realize how damned fortunate we are.
Tyrants always think they're saviors, ya know. Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao all believed, I'm sure, that they were saviors.
A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trust either of them
P.J. O'Rourke
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Drug war POW
Straight, Sarasota
`80 - `82
Post by: teachback on December 15, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on December 15, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
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On 2005-12-15 04:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
I think you should "keep up the good work",OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE!
Nobody here needs to read your comments,so fuck off and do your "magic",but we dont want to read about it here from you."
But you will read it, every last word of it. That's because of my mystical magical powers to compel you to. Mwooohahahahaha!
Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
Post by: teachback on December 15, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: Antigen on December 15, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
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On 2005-12-15 05:32:00, ex-prisoner wrote:
suddenly in October we get some cold days and people are harvesting, people are putting up what they need, running around, they don't know exactly why.
Oh, I've seen this in action! A good many years back, I gut fed up w/ the adult work world and took a job driving an ice cream truck for a living. I loved that job! It was good enough money, the hours were good and, except for the hour or so during and after the robbery and a couple of other bad timeblocks, the individual minutes were pretty good too.
So anyway, I did need the money so I went ahead and loaded up and went out the day a big storm was coming. I just figured, wth, I can't possibly come back w/ less than enough to cover the gas and might get at least a little cash out of it. I was sold out by 2 or 3pm (2, maybe 4 hours at most!), went back to the commissary, loaded up again and sold out again by sunset. People were just crazy for any sort of food item they could get. Not in a frightened, frantic way, either. It was cheerful, like the kind of cheerfulness you only see down there when the wind blows Florida Flicker and Flash gives us a break from all the noise and light.
Any Irishman who doubts the reality of selective enforcement ought to take just a moment to comtemplate the etymology of the term "paddy waggon".
--Antigen