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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on December 07, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
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I miss Marc Rosenburg more than you know!
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anyone have any general meetings held for you or somebody else, that really stand out and you remember the sick details????
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Did anyone actually get laid in Elan? Does anyone know of little horny rabbits that actually got to fuck ??
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On 2005-12-07 15:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I miss Marc Rosenburg more than you know! "
I know the name of a good doctor. :wstupid:
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Great shit man, woken up 3 in the AM for a FRESH ROSENBURG G.M ..A blood curdling G.M ..Ahhhh, refreshing .... :smokin:
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Blood curdling for sure !
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Marc ran some sick, but fun, G.M's in his day man, whoa! :scared: :lol:
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His veins bulging from his neck and eyes glazed red :lol:
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I remember he would makes us wait in the dining room and all of us looking around wondering who was it for and whos he gonna put in the Ring.When the bag went around for the cigs we new he was putting us in a Tight House. Back then a Tight House lasted anywere from a week to months at a time.
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Thats how it worked? When the house was going tight, had to give up the smokes???
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Back in my day everything that ment anything to you got taken away. Even cold ceral for brekfest and that was it. Sleep huh we were lucky if we got a hour out of 24. It was very rough times. Most of us old timers will agree on that.
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GENERAL MEETING was the most two feared wwords in Elan. :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Honestly, Elan was still bad into the 90's, vicous G.Ms, brutal rings, shit, we still had ROSENBURG, and polenty of fucked up L.E's, but I agree that you guys had it THE WORST
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Did Marc have long hair back then too?
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On 2005-12-08 19:35:00, Andretti Kid wrote:
"Did Marc have long hair back then too?"
Long black hair and skinny as a crack head. ::ftard::
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On 2005-12-08 19:39:00, screann wrote:
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On 2005-12-08 19:35:00, Andretti Kid wrote:
"Did Marc have long hair back then too?"
Long black hair and skinny as a crack head. ::ftard:: "
hahahaaa! Same when I was there, except for some grays too...
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On 2005-12-08 19:41:00, Andretti Kid wrote:
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On 2005-12-08 19:39:00, screann wrote:
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On 2005-12-08 19:35:00, Andretti Kid wrote:
"Did Marc have long hair back then too?"
Long black hair and skinny as a crack head. ::ftard:: "
hahahaaa! Same when I was there, except for some grays too..."
:razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:
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I have a serious question for the oldheads; what would happen to you if you yelled back at the *audience* during a GM...
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My first GM i did that, and I was in the corner for the next four days, back in '97
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On 2005-12-07 18:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did anyone actually get laid in Elan? Does anyone know of little horny rabbits that actually got to fuck ??"
Erin Slone had sex with Joe Martin in Elan. She made sceduals herself, made sure they pulled together. They flirted on the post all night....then durring pulling sleep when the house went into encounter groups Joe would sneek into her dorm and they had sex. Joe then went into the corner and admitted to everything...so then perfect little Erin who Clare and Marc thought was the ROLE MODEL of elan and never would do ANYTHING wrong bailed. She created massive amounts of chaos, I mean everyone was flipping out when that guilt came out. It was insane!!! Joe Martin lost his mind and acted out was jumping off the tables in the dining room durring house into bed. Every guy in the house who was a strength jumped onto him in a dog pile. It was so rediculous, I love the way the dude in the house took their aggression out on the people that they were restraining. Joe was like 120lbs tops Im pretty sure that it was a little unnessary for 10 guys to beat the shit out of him while restraing him. Yeah he got treated like utter shit in Elan. He was weak. Erin Slut...I mean slone saw that and took advantage of him hard core. She was some psycho nymphomaniac. Needless to say it only took Joe 3 years after elan to OD on heroin and lose his life. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the way he was treated in Elan Iam sure. Right guys??? Right Marty. Those 2 factors don't corralate at all. Cuz Joe got to Elan and the most he did was smoke pot. He lost his life because Elan cut him into nothing for nearly 3 years and never built him back up. Brainwashed him into thinking he was a worthless piece of scum for so long that he believed it. Doing that to a 15-17 year old....when your personality is being formed, wait why am I even trying to explain this. We all know how fantastic and helpful "elan therapy" was to everyone. Ive been out for 6 years and I know of 4 of my good friends who are already dead. It's great. I just know that within the next year I will most likely get a few more phone calls. It's hard to even cry anymore, I just wish that those people who did this to my friends could be brought to justice SOMEHOW. There are so many of us....Is everyone so defeated that they don't want to even try anymore? I witnessed one of my friends get tied to a chair and then his SP's threw him down the stairs. Or should I say accidentally dropped him. The people who were weak in self esteem got preyed upon there. Marc Rosenburg fucking loved it....beating people down into the ground to the point of no return. Kids that got sent to Elan for low self-esteem left the expensive theraputic community 100% worse than before they went in there. I wonder if Joe Martins parents feel like their 90,000 dollars was well spent. Doubtful. And I blame it on Erin Slone to. That girl was fucked up, and she took him down with her. I wonder what Erin is up to now? That girl also had sex with our 60 year old computer teacher Mr. Parker. He was fat bald had terrible breath and just ...ewwwwwww. She told Marin about it and Marin told someone who was calling her on a visit. That girl, I think It was Tiffany Voyzene told elan staff members so they fired Mr. Parker. This is just the shit that got out. Funny that Pete Rowe had sex with 2 girls while I was in elan and a staff member Tracey, Yet I think he STILL works there. Really great staff that they hire. How do they charge so much money to keep us in elan when the staff that runs the place looks like they were found in a fucking dumpster, shooting gallery, or whore house. NONE of them except Dr. Sapan were even qualified for the job or had degrees. Missy Esty was practically illiterate. She couldn't spell anything right and one of her ONLY responsibilties was to write progress reports on her students....Did she do it??? No she would have a coordinator do it for her. One Lady tina christopherson couldnt even add 2 numbers together. And the only thing marc Rosenburg knew about was shooting heroin. Did a day go by when Marc didn't talk about heroin? The dude was obsessed, he came back to Elan after leaving...Im not really sure why he left, and nodded out all day long. Yeah from someone who has had friends with heroin problems it was really obvious he was using at work. He started nodding out in groups and just sat on the couch all day long drooling on himself. I suppose that methadone can do that to a person to, but even then, It is fantastic that so many manipulated parents entrusted such a vile man to take care of their children. Dont even get me started on the lies that the staff told my parents. WOW, thats all i can say. Well I had to vent some of that shit. I know it was really just about "did anyone get laid in elan" but yeah responding to that reminded me of so much fucked up shit. I wish someone with the means would get something together to bring the child abusers to justice.
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On 2005-12-08 21:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-07 18:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Did anyone actually get laid in Elan? Does anyone know of little horny rabbits that actually got to fuck ??"
Erin Slone had sex with Joe Martin in Elan. She made sceduals herself, made sure they pulled together. They flirted on the post all night....then durring pulling sleep when the house went into encounter groups Joe would sneek into her dorm and they had sex. Joe then went into the corner and admitted to everything...so then perfect little Erin who Clare and Marc thought was the ROLE MODEL of elan and never would do ANYTHING wrong bailed. She created massive amounts of chaos, I mean everyone was flipping out when that guilt came out. It was insane!!! Joe Martin lost his mind and acted out was jumping off the tables in the dining room durring house into bed. Every guy in the house who was a strength jumped onto him in a dog pile. It was so rediculous, I love the way the dude in the house took their aggression out on the people that they were restraining. Joe was like 120lbs tops Im pretty sure that it was a little unnessary for 10 guys to beat the shit out of him while restraing him. Yeah he got treated like utter shit in Elan. He was weak. Erin Slut...I mean slone saw that and took advantage of him hard core. She was some psycho nymphomaniac. Needless to say it only took Joe 3 years after elan to OD on heroin and lose his life. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the way he was treated in Elan Iam sure. Right guys??? Right Marty. Those 2 factors don't corralate at all. Cuz Joe got to Elan and the most he did was smoke pot. He lost his life because Elan cut him into nothing for nearly 3 years and never built him back up. Brainwashed him into thinking he was a worthless piece of scum for so long that he believed it. Doing that to a 15-17 year old....when your personality is being formed, wait why am I even trying to explain this. We all know how fantastic and helpful "elan therapy" was to everyone. Ive been out for 6 years and I know of 4 of my good friends who are already dead. It's great. I just know that within the next year I will most likely get a few more phone calls. It's hard to even cry anymore, I just wish that those people who did this to my friends could be brought to justice SOMEHOW. There are so many of us....Is everyone so defeated that they don't want to even try anymore? I witnessed one of my friends get tied to a chair and then his SP's threw him down the stairs. Or should I say accidentally dropped him. The people who were weak in self esteem got preyed upon there. Marc Rosenburg fucking loved it....beating people down into the ground to the point of no return. Kids that got sent to Elan for low self-esteem left the expensive theraputic community 100% worse than before they went in there. I wonder if Joe Martins parents feel like their 90,000 dollars was well spent. Doubtful. And I blame it on Erin Slone to. That girl was fucked up, and she took him down with her. I wonder what Erin is up to now? That girl also had sex with our 60 year old computer teacher Mr. Parker. He was fat bald had terrible breath and just ...ewwwwwww. She told Marin about it and Marin told someone who was calling her on a visit. That girl, I think It was Tiffany Voyzene told elan staff members so they fired Mr. Parker. This is just the shit that got out. Funny that Pete Rowe had sex with 2 girls while I was in elan and a staff member Tracey, Yet I think he STILL works there. Really great staff that they hire. How do they charge so much money to keep us in elan when the staff that runs the place looks like they were found in a fucking dumpster, shooting gallery, or whore house. NONE of them except Dr. Sapan were even qualified for the job or had degrees. Missy Esty was practically illiterate. She couldn't spell anything right and one of her ONLY responsibilties was to write progress reports on her students....Did she do it??? No she would have a coordinator do it for her. One Lady tina christopherson couldnt even add 2 numbers together. And the only thing marc Rosenburg knew about was shooting heroin. Did a day go by when Marc didn't talk about heroin? The dude was obsessed, he came back to Elan after leaving...Im not really sure why he left, and nodded out all day long. Yeah from someone who has had friends with heroin problems it was really obvious he was using at work. He started nodding out in groups and just sat on the couch all day long drooling on himself. I suppose that methadone can do that to a person to, but even then, It is fantastic that so many manipulated parents entrusted such a vile man to take care of their children. Dont even get me started on the lies that the staff told my parents. WOW, thats all i can say. Well I had to vent some of that shit. I know it was really just about "did anyone get laid in elan" but yeah responding to that reminded me of so much fucked up shit. I wish someone with the means would get something together to bring the child abusers to justice."
amen.[ This Message was edited by: Mister Pink on 2005-12-08 22:56 ]
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Im with you Pink. I would love nothing more then to SHUT down all these fucked up places. But I cant do it by myself. We need more like us to give these fuckers a wake up call. As far as haveing sex in Elan , I did . I was night woman and this dude Jay Sommers was nightman, in Elan 6. The little punk cop to it the next day. We both got a GM and we were both placed in the RING by Alice Dunn. Back in my day that was a big NO NO . Two weeks later I went AWOL and never went back to Elan.
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Dude, Joe Martin is dead? I was in 8 with him for is first year..You left 6 years ago? Who is this???
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On 2005-12-09 07:24:00, screann wrote:
"Im with you Pink. I would love nothing more then to SHUT down all these fucked up places. But I cant do it by myself. We need more like us to give these fuckers a wake up call. As far as haveing sex in Elan , I did . I was night woman and this dude Jay Sommers was nightman, in Elan 6. The little punk cop to it the next day. We both got a GM and we were both placed in the RING by Alice Dunn. Back in my day that was a big NO NO . Two weeks later I went AWOL and never went back to Elan."
Was it good at least?
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On 2005-12-09 08:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-09 07:24:00, screann wrote:
"Im with you Pink. I would love nothing more then to SHUT down all these fucked up places. But I cant do it by myself. We need more like us to give these fuckers a wake up call. As far as haveing sex in Elan , I did . I was night woman and this dude Jay Sommers was nightman, in Elan 6. The little punk cop to it the next day. We both got a GM and we were both placed in the RING by Alice Dunn. Back in my day that was a big NO NO . Two weeks later I went AWOL and never went back to Elan."
Was it good at least?"
It was OK.
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I saw that happen a few times. The house would charge the person full force. Then they would be put in the RING for being a wise ass. Elan in my day Did Not put up with any bullshit, at least not in Parsonsfield E4.
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Wow, our GM's were tame - I yelled back a good many times, screamed the lyrics to Maggie's Farm at the top of my lungs, collapsed on the floor; only got sent back to isolation for the effort.
I think i learned their limitations in that foul year of our lord, two thousand and two...
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Im telling you Genaral Meeting was the most two feared words in my time. They would last from a hour to 10 hours sometimes 2 and 3 DAYS. In a Tight House shit they were none stop. Bad times my friends Very bad. :skull:
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2-3 DAYS of GM'S, Jesus man, You guys had it bad....Id go koo-koo
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At least some people got laid, I had to pleasure myself a few time a week, talk about being BACKED THE FUCK UP man, whhooo :lol:
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On 2005-12-09 12:54:00, artman11111 wrote:
"guy named Larry Dell brough 225 hits of acid and tripped for almost an entire year.He got the crap knocked outa him for days on end when he was found out. Larry became a good friend for many years.We lost touch when i moved to the west coast.I came to find out a few years back that he was found murdered on the L tracks downtown.
He made it very hard to keep a straight face in all of his GM's.I kwore many a clowns face as a result.But after a while,( and after everyone watched Joe laughing at him)noone ever was reprimanded over Larry's antics
This was one funny kid!
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Oh my God Larrys dead? I remember him from E6. Real cool dude. We were good friends he some how called my family and told them I split. Wasent he from Ill? I think Skokie. He was funny .He was a little guy with dark hair. Why was he killed? And did they find the person that did it???????? ::mecry::
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On 2005-12-09 13:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"At least some people got laid, I had to pleasure myself a few time a week, talk about being BACKED THE FUCK UP man, whhooo ::jawdrop::
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Anyone ever hear about Dawn Birnbaum??
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On 2005-12-09 13:29:00, artman11111 wrote:
"yep that was him !
who are you ?
email me
artman11111@hotmail.com"
Did you get my e mail? I havent really gotton the hang of this computer yet, Im kinda new at it. By the way Art its Diane.
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On 2005-12-09 14:15:00, artman11111 wrote:
"send me a private message through fornits... dianne who ?
Its just a couple years ago"
How do I do that? :???: :???: :???: :???:
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look to the left of the screen.click on priv messages... find me in the drop down bar
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On 2005-12-09 14:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"look to the left of the screen.click on priv messages... find me in the drop down bar"
Got it thank you. :smile:
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Was Marc's scream blood curdling back in the 70's too?
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He would Yell it over the PA system so the whole house would hear him. Fucken dope. He is what he does. ::stab:: ::stab::
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On 2005-12-09 15:00:00, screann wrote:
"He would Yell it over the PA system so the whole house would hear him. Fucken dope. He is what he does. ::stab:: ::stab:: "
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Hi-Yuh
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On 2005-12-09 14:15:00, artman11111 wrote:
"send me a private message through fornits... dianne who ?
Its just a couple years ago"
Art I sent you the message.
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Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.
Learn to swim.
Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.
Learn to swim.
Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.
Learn to swim.
Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.
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Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.
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Best fucking album EVER
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Rosenburg...cRaZy as a motherfucker man...He was ok to me, but the man was a little too overboard..I tried to keep my distance
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Me too. :scared: :scared:
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Tighten up!!! :lol:
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Where the hell did Elan dig up there lingo??
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I know ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha:: :lol: :lol:
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ha, i still smile every time i go to a civil war re-enactment and hear the word 'ramrod'... haha
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I mean really who the hell talks like that,Get a Grip, Dig Yourself. I wonder if they know just how stupid they sound. :silly:
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haha, going to bed everynight an hearing "EVERYTHING BLOWS!" and thinking... yes, yes it certainly does... :wink:
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i was in a college class down at 8 about a year ago i guess, when rosenburg first came back. i had never seen him b4, but of course i had heard the stories. anyways the class was in the BO upstairs, and all of a sudden we hear. "HOUSE IN THE DINING ROOOOOOM!! GENERAAAAAAAAAL MEEEEETING!!!" in the most terrifying voice I had yet heard at elan. All the kids from 8 went down to smoke this girl, who eventually had double feelings and shit, goin on right below our class so of course, we couldnt pay attention, and the professor is buggin out and shit. This is rosenburgs FIRST night back at elan. I only spoke with him once when he came up to 3 for some reason when i was COD one morning. So im happy to say the only conversation i ever had with marc rosenburg was a productive one, and i didnt get slapped or yelled at..thank god...lol
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Well I guess elan lingo has changed a lot since 1997, what the hell are double feelings? I guess probably something new they made up cuz obviously there werent enough things that we could get in trouble for.
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wtf is 'double feelings?'
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Double feelings was instituted for the gay's, blacks, and hippies, mkay?
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Jeff Hartnett! Aaron Barnes-
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On 2005-12-18 12:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Double feelings was instituted for the gay's, blacks, and hippies, mkay?"
So was ethnic cleansing, that doesn't really give him a definition for the elanspeak, dig? What are double feelings you speak of?
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...its when the staff or director kicks feelings again after the initial wave of feelings. Used to happen all the time, its what the chief wrote in the general meeting scratch. easiest way to say it i guess.
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Well we did that, but we never called it double feelings. I think we just got our feelings off twice..lol, shit does eveything at elan have to have a queer name?
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I wouldn't have had it any other way...
Is 'doublespeak' still in concept?