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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 18, 2005, 12:58:00 AM
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i think that robert bruce is one of buchies puppets put on this site that way every one keeps arguing in a circle and never gets anything accomplished. there is no way to prove me right or wrong but i was just throwing my two cents out there
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and here's your change. That argument wasnt worth two cents.
What kind of tactic would it be for Buchi to employ me as a puppet?
Im the one who keeps wanting to get back to the real issues about HLA.
Namley at this point possible sexual relationships between staff and students, and the improper licensure of the school.
I realize that we have to deal with people who are doing exactly what you describe, but if we dont deal with them they will misinform parents who may send their kids there.
Trust me the best way to deal with these stooges is to highlight the fact that they are cowards who cant answer the real questions and change their story at every possibility.
Its like discrediting an expert witness, you have to show them to have no credibility.
Such as Mrs. Gray.
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Robert your denseness is getting old. I am in no way shape or form anybody's puppet or stooge. Dr. B can no more control what I type or say on here than anybody else on this board because I am neither his employee nor married to one of his employees. I havent spoken to him since December of 2000. I already have told you and others a hundred times at least how I ended up finding this board. And it had nothing to do with anybody sending me here. But once again, you are so narrow minded you cant possibly understand that someone might have a different view of things than you. OH MY GOD imagine that...another perspective!
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Are you making an accusation against HLA that there are sexual relationship going on between staff and students? Are you actually claiming that as fact? I just want to know where you stand with this. That is a pretty big claim if you have nothing to back it up.
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I can't speak for others but I did receive a PM from an HLA "grad" who says she had an on-going sexual relationship with a counselor while at HLa and that when she graduated he quit and they continue to be in a relationship today. So, yes, it is a fact that there are sexual relations between staff and patients at HLA.
I've heard many rumors that there were several other sexual relationships between staff and patients, but I have yet to hear it from the principals, so I won't comment until I hear directly.
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I have heard about that relationship as well. I heard that the staff (an assistant counselor)in question was fired as soon as HLA found out about it. Again, that's just what I heard. Could be a rumor.
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On 2005-11-18 05:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Are you making an accusation against HLA that there are sexual relationship going on between staff and students? Are you actually claiming that as fact? I just want to know where you stand with this. That is a pretty big claim if you have nothing to back it up."
At this point no, I during my time there never knew of an actual relationship between staff and students. Although there was a great deal of sexual abuse at the hands of the staff.
My post was commenting on the discussion and implications given by others.
However given the fact that during my time there, there was sexual, physical, emotional, and mental abuse, along with illegal activities, unethical business practices, and an overwhelming emphasis on secrecy, it would not surprise me if the allegations are true.
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On 2005-11-18 05:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Are you making an accusation against HLA that there are sexual relationship going on between staff and students? Are you actually claiming that as fact? I just want to know where you stand with this. That is a pretty big claim if you have nothing to back it up."
posted by Joe Dirt on another thread:
"Posted: 2005-11-18 21:46:00
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just recently, he (danny prevel - dean of students)drove a student to the end of wasega road and had sex with her, and they are investigating it now, but this would be the second time he has been caught, he got fired last time but was allowed back after about a year and a half."
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seems like this is happening more than we expected...
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On 2005-11-18 04:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Robert your denseness is getting old. I am in no way shape or form anybody's puppet or stooge. Dr. B can no more control what I type or say on here than anybody else on this board because I am neither his employee nor married to one of his employees. I havent spoken to him since December of 2000. I already have told you and others a hundred times at least how I ended up finding this board. And it had nothing to do with anybody sending me here. But once again, you are so narrow minded you cant possibly understand that someone might have a different view of things than you. OH MY GOD imagine that...another perspective!
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I thought this was an interesting quote. Mrs. Gray I and others have been willing to accept the opinions of anyone without issue. You on the other hand claim anyone with anything negative to say about the school is a liar, or is spreading rumors, ir is an angry former student or a former employee with a grudge. You also routinley lie about your own experience there (either that or you have a remarkable case of tunnel vision) and evade the questions you are afraid to answer. So with all this in mind who are you to tell anyone to be open to another perspective. You the most narrow minded person on here.
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On 2005-11-18 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I can't speak for others but I did receive a PM from an HLA "grad" who says she had an on-going sexual relationship with a counselor while at HLa and that when she graduated he quit and they continue to be in a relationship today. So, yes, it is a fact that there are sexual relations between staff and patients at HLA.
I've heard many rumors that there were several other sexual relationships between staff and patients, but I have yet to hear it from the principals, so I won't comment until I hear directly."
actually it was a student and an AC who was fired...and she was borderline so who knows what was actually true...not that any of that would make it right, but lets try to get the "facts" as straight as we can...
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by "borderline," do you mean that you are attempting to offer a former students axis two diagnosis on the internet?
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On 2005-11-17 21:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"i think that robert bruce is one of buchies puppets put on this site that way every one keeps arguing in a circle and never gets anything accomplished. there is no way to prove me right or wrong but i was just throwing my two cents out there"
I think your smoking some sort of crack, maybe good ol' Dahlonega Meth from Crack Alley (also known around town as Camp Wahsega Road, the road you take for 8 miles to get to Hidden Lake Road) For all we you know you're a puppet. Tell your boss I said Hi and there's a fruitcake from me coming in his mail at his loft in Buckhead/Atlanta.
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Wahsega Road is a rural road 10 miles long that ends at the Army Ranger camp. This road is in no way shape or form a "Crack Alley". What have you been smoking boy?
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On 2005-12-01 19:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-11-18 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I can't speak for others but I did receive a PM from an HLA "grad" who says she had an on-going sexual relationship with a counselor while at HLa and that when she graduated he quit and they continue to be in a relationship today. So, yes, it is a fact that there are sexual relations between staff and patients at HLA.
I've heard many rumors that there were several other sexual relationships between staff and patients, but I have yet to hear it from the principals, so I won't comment until I hear directly."
actually it was a student and an AC who was fired...and she was borderline so who knows what was actually true...not that any of that would make it right, but lets try to get the "facts" as straight as we can..."
How owuld you know her DX? Does that make it ok that a statutory rape happened on HLA's campus?
Maybe you should open your eyes a bit and stop blindly defending the undefendable while trashing a student's reputation...?
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That will probably never happened. The brainwashing is to strong in them.
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On 2005-12-18 07:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Wahsega Road is a rural road 10 miles long that ends at the Army Ranger camp. This road is in no way shape or form a "Crack Alley". What have you been smoking boy?"
Greg Parton (ex-HLA Spanish One Teacher) had to leave because he failed a mairjuana and acid random staff drug testing. He told this to my roommate who told me. Boy.
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What does that have to do with Wahsega Road? Did he live on it? Was he a native of Dahlonega? Thank goodness he left.
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On 2005-12-18 12:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What does that have to do with Wahsega Road? Did he live on it? Was he a native of Dahlonega? Thank goodness he left."
No, it just goes to the quality of HLA's staff. They hire bottom of the barrel and everyone who knows the place knows that.
Probably in your view, it's just fine to have pot and acid heads working there. You people apologize for every other awful fact.
Why don't you get to the issue: Why does HLA hire drug addicts who like to have sex with children to care for your kid? I think that's where the focus should be, not on some dirt road in back-fuck Georgia.
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Please list the other drug addicts who have worked there. You make it sound as if all staff are abusive addicts. I hear about teachers in public schools being fired all the time for improper behavior. What would make a private school immune to a bad staff member? It happens. They get fired.
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On 2005-12-18 12:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Please list the other drug addicts who have worked there. You make it sound as if all staff are abusive addicts. I hear about teachers in public schools being fired all the time for improper behavior. What would make a private school immune to a bad staff member? It happens. They get fired. "
Well, they don't all get fired. There's a sex-abuser working there right now who was caught having sexual relations with a patient and was PROMOTED. How does that happen?
Comparing HLA to a public sschool is a bit of stretch, don't you think? For $84,000.00 per year tuition don't you think they could do some background checks and PRE-employment drug testing? I would think so. BTW, are your school taxes over 80 grand a year? Mine aren't.
Also, by the very NATURE of HLA's CLAIMS and cost, their staff should be beyond reproach, the best in the business. Where's the safe environment? Certainly not where there are pedophiles and drug addicts on the payroll. You wouldn't argue that, would you?
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On 2005-12-18 12:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Please list the other drug addicts who have worked there. You make it sound as if all staff are abusive addicts. I hear about teachers in public schools being fired all the time for improper behavior. What would make a private school immune to a bad staff member? It happens. They get fired. "
I worked there. I hung out with other people on staff. I saw people drinking abusively, smoking pot, and sniffing coke. I'd estimate that only 40-50% of the staff DIDN'T do drugs and/or abuse alcohol.
You certainly can't tell me it didn't happen. I was there. You, obviously, were not. If you knew anything about this place, you wouldn't be so quick to leap to their defense. You're just flat wrong on the facts.
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for those that claimed to work there, more than likey it is just exactly that... a claim. i know first hand that the staff members did not engage in that type of behavior.
perhaps a couple of the AC's and such dabbled in that kind of activety, but there is that kind of activity everywhere. a drug test is administered before hiring, as well as background checks, and periodic drug testing...
get your facts straight, before you make claims that you have no clue about.
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When I was there, there were a number of sexual predators working as AC's, and heavy drug users as well as several instances of staff members buying cigarettes or alcohol for students.
This is all okay in your mind?
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you are so wrong though... you think that by manipulating others you are achieving what? maybe there were a select few staff members that did not follow policy and procedure, but over all, there was not that activity...
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On 2005-12-18 15:22:00, realworld wrote:
"you are so wrong though... you think that by manipulating others you are achieving what? maybe there were a select few staff members that did not follow policy and procedure, but over all, there was not that activity... "
How can you be so sure? Are you familar with every single employee that ever worked there? Also since you are in fact an HLA employee why not dig a little deeper into the hand book of buzz words and find something better than "manipulating" considering the fact that I am the one telling the truth, whereas you are well.....manipulating. You see when something occurs on even a semi-regular basis which it did, you cannot then claim over all it never happens. Understand?
Doubtful.
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There is a pre employment background check and random drug testing. And 40% is wayyyyyyyyyy exagerated dude
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On 2005-12-18 15:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-18 13:33:00, realworld wrote:
"for those that claimed to work there, more than likey it is just exactly that... a claim. i know first hand that the staff members did not engage in that type of behavior.
perhaps a couple of the AC's and such dabbled in that kind of activety, but there is that kind of activity everywhere. a drug test is administered before hiring, as well as background checks, and periodic drug testing...
get your facts straight, before you make claims that you have no clue about."
This is TRUE, Excellent, finally someone thats not a fucking cry baby and can back up the facts!! Thanks real world, rock on :tup: "
Oh but we are bringing up facts puppet. Are you going to argue that the employee in question wasnt fired for having a sexual relationship with a student only to be rehired and promoted? Further are you going to claim that all the students coming from multiple time periods at HLA are all simply making it up?
Yes of course the theory that two lone biased puppets of the Buch who are dependent upon a crooked institution for their paychecks are going to tell the truth.
Come off it lap dog no one buys your bullshit story.
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some people on here don't get a paycheck from Hidden Lake Academy and still don't agree with you and a few others. Is that such a shock to you Mr. Bruce? some people don't need someone telling them what to think they can actually do it on their own. And on their own they think you are full of shit
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On 2005-12-18 13:33:00, realworld wrote:
"for those that claimed to work there, more than likey it is just exactly that... a claim. i know first hand that the staff members did not engage in that type of behavior.
perhaps a couple of the AC's and such dabbled in that kind of activety, but there is that kind of activity everywhere. a drug test is administered before hiring, as well as background checks, and periodic drug testing...
get your facts straight, before you make claims that you have no clue about."
this is a complete and utter prevarication. i know for a fact that this is not true. i worked there and had no background check and no pre-employment drug screen.
this poster does not know the truth or chooses to lie about it.
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this is a complete and utter prevarication. i know for a fact that this is not true. i worked there and had no background check and no pre-employment drug screen.
this poster does not know the truth or chooses to lie about it.
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CONFIRMED BULLSHIT..THERE ARE PRE-DRUG SCREEN TESTS YOU MORON, AND BACKROUND CHECKS AS WELL, GO SUCK A FAT DICK
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On 2005-12-18 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
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this is a complete and utter prevarication. i know for a fact that this is not true. i worked there and had no background check and no pre-employment drug screen.
this poster does not know the truth or chooses to lie about it.
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CONFIRMED BULLSHIT..THERE ARE PRE-DRUG SCREEN TESTS YOU MORON, AND BACKROUND CHECKS AS WELL, GO SUCK A FAT DICK"
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you acquit yourself like a scholar. how admirably you behave. you're a fine representative of the quality of staff at your fine institution.
it doesn't change the fact that i was hired without a background check or a drug screen.
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On 2005-12-18 16:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"some people on here don't get a paycheck from Hidden Lake Academy and still don't agree with you and a few others. Is that such a shock to you Mr. Bruce? some people don't need someone telling them what to think they can actually do it on their own. And on their own they think you are full of shit"
If thats true then how can you comment on it. I mean since you arent an employee there how do you know if there are sexual relationships between staff and students or drug/alcohol use among the staff?
Since you arent there you cant.
So I guess that means our testimony again carries more weight.
Thanks for playing.
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On 2005-12-18 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
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this is a complete and utter prevarication. i know for a fact that this is not true. i worked there and had no background check and no pre-employment drug screen.
this poster does not know the truth or chooses to lie about it.
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CONFIRMED BULLSHIT..THERE ARE PRE-DRUG SCREEN TESTS YOU MORON, AND BACKROUND CHECKS AS WELL, GO SUCK A FAT DICK"
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Confirmed huh? Yet here we have an employee who says otherwise. Is he lying? How would you know you just stated you dont work there.
Like the previous poster said though, thanks for highlighting the typical staff behavior. When proven wrong get mad.
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and how to you know that thihs person is actually a staff member? obviously it is some small minded child playing games, trying to convince everyone else that HLA does not "check out" their employees upon hiring them; when in fact they do.
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On 2005-12-18 16:42:00, realworld wrote:
"and how to you know that thihs person is actually a staff member? obviously it is some small minded child playing games, trying to convince everyone else that HLA does not "check out" their employees upon hiring them; when in fact they do."
this is a lie. please refer to previous posts. i worked there and was never drug tested before being hired or anytime thereafter nor did anyone perform a criminal background check.
i'd love for you to try to prove me wrong, but you can't change history and facts is facts. i was there and you were not.
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Did anybody on this board ever stop to think that perhaps in the early days they didnt do background checks or pre employment drug screens and now they do? I know in the late 90's they did do pre drug screens and random drug testing of employees and those employees who were tested positive were fired on the spot. These comments between individuals may not be lies it may be a matter of when they were there
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On 2005-12-18 16:42:00, realworld wrote:
"and how to you know that thihs person is actually a staff member? obviously it is some small minded child playing games, trying to convince everyone else that HLA does not "check out" their employees upon hiring them; when in fact they do."
Obviously? Whats so obvious about it. Also you still arent answering the question as to how you not being an employee would possibly know the answer. The truth is you have no way of really knowing. I'll tell you what we can do though, we can ask Dysfunction. We know for a fact he was an employee there. He can settle it. As to the previous poster, does that mean any students who were there prior to drug testing have a valid complaint. Also what about the sexual predators.
Oh and for the record just because HLA may do drug testing for its employees now in no way suggest they arent still using drugs.
Afterall as many students can attest we all had drug test done after returning from trips. Many passed them by cheating. Adults can do the same thing.
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On 2005-12-18 17:37:00, RobertBruce wrote:
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On 2005-12-18 16:42:00, realworld wrote:
"and how to you know that thihs person is actually a staff member? obviously it is some small minded child playing games, trying to convince everyone else that HLA does not "check out" their employees upon hiring them; when in fact they do."
Obviously? Whats so obvious about it. Also you still arent answering the question as to how you not being an employee would possibly know the answer. The truth is you have no way of really knowing. I'll tell you what we can do though, we can ask Dysfunction. We know for a fact he was an employee there. He can settle it. As to the previous poster, does that mean any students who were there prior to drug testing have a valid complaint. Also what about the sexual predators.
Oh and for the record just because HLA may do drug testing for its employees now in no way suggest they arent still using drugs.
Afterall as many students can attest we all had drug test done after returning from trips. Many passed them by cheating. Adults can do the same thing. "
When I was hired I did not get a background check. I was not asked to provide any criminal history. I was not screened for drugs in any way, nor was I asked if I was or ever had been a drug user. The entire time I worked there no drug tests for any employees were given.
There were quite a few surprisingly hard partiers working there. The headmaster at the time was known to have killed a pedestrian in a drunk driving accident. He told all of us, including the kids, how he struck and killed a man walking down the street while driving drunk.
The man in charge of the therapeutic component of the program (the "head clinician") was known to have a fake doctorate from a diploma mill. I know this for a fact, and as much has been admitted by their employees on this board. The same man gave me and another counselor his vehicle to drive a suicidal kid to the hospital. In the glovebox, we discovered, was a loaded handgun.
So, the short answer is "no" they didn't do background checks or drug tests.
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Drug testing wasnt done when Dysfunction was hired because it wasnt set up then. he was one of the first 20 employees. Things changed and drug testing of new employees and random drug testing were both done on a regular basis by the year 1998 or 1999 and continues today.
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On 2005-12-18 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Drug testing wasnt done when Dysfunction was hired because it wasnt set up then. he was one of the first 20 employees. Things changed and drug testing of new employees and random drug testing were both done on a regular basis by the year 1998 or 1999 and continues today."
any drunken killers floating around the place these days? any phony doctors?
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If you go to their website it will list their degrees now. They cannot fake anything anymore
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On 2005-12-18 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you go to their website it will list their degrees now. They cannot fake anything anymore"
So you admit then that they were "faking it" before. Well, at least you've talked some sense.
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On 2005-12-18 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you go to their website it will list their degrees now. They cannot fake anything anymore"
You didnt answer my question. Would those of prior to employees being drug tested have a valid complaint about the school? Also you didnt address my comments concerning people cheating on drug tests. Like I said if the students can do it you dont think the adults can?
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Oh and also how can you be aware of their current drug testing policies since you claimed you dont work there?
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What makes you think I don't work there? Do you have me mistaken for another poster? Are you getting confused Mr. Bruce?
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Mr.Bruce... who do you claim works there, verses who does not? I am only making claims that i can back up, thank you very much... you want to continue to claim that there are not very invasive records and tests for the staff members now?
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On 2005-12-18 20:06:00, realworld wrote:
"Mr.Bruce... who do you claim works there, verses who does not? I am only making claims that i can back up, thank you very much... you want to continue to claim that there are not very invasive records and tests for the staff members now?"
so back it up. show the proof of drug testing and criminal checks.
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Not at all. If you werent so weak youd pick a user name. However you stated earlier that not all of you recieved a pay check from the Buch, further you had refused to answer my earlier questions regarding your employement again out of fear.
Dont get upset when we cant keep track of which lap dog is which when all of you are to frightened to pick a name. Whats the matter afraid we'll know who you are and then...uh oh might mention some of your more specific atrocities.
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On 2005-12-18 20:06:00, realworld wrote:
"Mr.Bruce... who do you claim works there, verses who does not? I am only making claims that i can back up, thank you very much... you want to continue to claim that there are not very invasive records and tests for the staff members now?"
Oh not at all, and I never said anything to that effect. I claim the people that dont work there are the ones who stated they dont work there. As far as whether or not HLA currently does backround checks and drug test I would not know I dont go there now. However I do they didnt always do them, I also stated it is very very easy to cheat in order to pass a drug test and these backround checks arent doing a very good job apparenetly if staff members are still willing to buy kids drugs alcohol and cigarettes, as well as have sexual relationships with students.
Do you currently work there realworld?
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why does it matter whether or not i currently work there? if i did would it somehow give my statements more validity?
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NO it would give him more reason to slam you by telling you that you are brainwashed and being paid to come on here by Dr. B. He can't possibly believe that people can choose to not agree with him on their own.
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On 2005-12-19 23:01:00, realworld wrote:
"why does it matter whether or not i currently work there? if i did would it somehow give my statements more validity? "
Your statements already carry zero weight. You have never stated your bona-fides (if you have any) or your relationship with HLA, so everyone must assume that you are just a programmie troll.
If you have expertise or inside knowledge, state it. If not, you have no basis for being involved in the debate. It's a pretty simple concept.
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Having inside knowledge only gives the critics more fuel for their fire. They would only accuse you of lying or worse, if you work there currently. See, no matter whether or not you work there or not they will come up with a way for your opinion to somehow be invalid.
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On 2005-12-19 23:01:00, realworld wrote:
"why does it matter whether or not i currently work there? if i did would it somehow give my statements more validity? "
Of course, but it would also allow us to ask a current employee regarding current practices.
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On 2005-12-20 04:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"NO it would give him more reason to slam you by telling you that you are brainwashed and being paid to come on here by Dr. B. He can't possibly believe that people can choose to not agree with him on their own."
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. However they are not entitled to lie about things, call others liars, or dodge questions without having it thrown back at them time and again. Or as you might better understand it.
"They arent allowed to try and "manipulate" the situation without facing the consequences."
We can tell who is brainwashed and who is not. The ones who are brainwashed are in capable of being honest about things, the ones who arent are honest.
Simple as that.
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All i have to say for myself, is that i will not state anything other than facts. I will not make generalizations, and accept each and everyone's comments with ration and respect, as i hope you will do the same for me... give it some thought, and ask what you wish to ask. i will take into consideration every single question, and concern. i am not here to be your friend, nor enemy... i am here to help provide accurate information, whether or not Dr. Len wants to see what i say... i am acting on my own free will, and have not been put up to this by anyone other myself.
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That's good to hear.
In what capacity do you serve at HLA?
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Nevermind. Youre Aften, and you claimed not to work there earlier.
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I am most certainly not Aften...that was a nice guess though Mr.Bruce
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It appears that you are.
If youre not then answer the question.
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Here you go Aften, some questions you forgot to answer.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =30#155662 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12971&forum=41&start=30#155662)
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On 2005-12-21 12:05:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Here you go Aften, some questions you forgot to answer.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =30#155662 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12971&forum=41&start=30#155662)"
Bruce, I mean this in the nicest, most loving way-SHUT YOUR MOUTH ::stab::
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On 2005-12-21 11:24:00, realworld wrote:
"I am most certainly not Aften...that was a nice guess though Mr.Bruce"
yes you are. you even changed your retarded profile as soon as you were pinched. hla taught you a lot: to lie, to assume fake identities/personalities, to manipulate. great job, HLA. Now that's some "character building" for ya! :wave:
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keep on thinking what you want to... but you will always be wrong in that aspect.
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And wrong he IS!!
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Real world, I like your style, simple and straight to the point, keep rockin!!!
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thanks
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RobertBruce is busy licking another man's genitalia..Please stand by...
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Aften honey there really isnt a reason for you to hide your identity. Buchi wont sue you, you fell for the lies and brainwashing.
So come on out of the closet.
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oh mr bruce, i am out of the closet, thank you very much... it is not my fault that you think that i am posing as someone else... that is absolutly ridiculous...
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No it isnt because we know for a fact that you are.
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On 2005-12-21 22:45:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"oh mr bruce, i am out of the closet, thank you very much... it is not my fault that you think that i am posing as someone else... that is absolutly ridiculous... "
aften, you come on here and lie about just about everything. now you're saying that you aren't "realworld" when, in fact, the postings come from the same MAC address which is unique to each and every computer manufactured.
so, please, spare us the drama of denials. unfortunately for you and people like you (posers), technology is traceable and every transaction made on the internet is reducible to a unique identifier. you have destroyed what small bit of credibility you previously had.
so ditch the second screenname and get back to the discussion of material value. maybe with some thought toward reality-based arguments you can regain some believability.
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Just coincidence? It is ironic that the last time Aften posted prior to this was 12/16.
Realworld registers with the Yahoo messenger name: hottbutchboi on 12/18 and begins to post.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =30#157326 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=13052&forum=41&start=30#157326)
Then changes the YM info to: try2figurethisout after the accusation was made.
No postings by Aften for four days 12/18-12/21 while realworld was posting.
Looks questionable based on that alone.
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***Did anybody on this board ever stop to think that perhaps in the early days they didnt do background checks or pre employment drug screens and now they do?
Good argument for licensing. They would have been required had HLA been licensed.
The Director/Headmaster/Staff would have had to meet specific educational requirements as well.
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So not only are the liscened improperly now, but before that they just didnt bother at all?
How professional.
Aften dear face facts.
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Have fun with your fantasies, HLA will be around for a LONG TIME
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Who's trying to close it down?
idiot.
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You ya fucking fagot ass
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On 2005-12-22 19:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You ya fucking fagot ass"
I tell ya, you guys are helping!! You keep showing the lurkers (prospective parents) exactly what they can expect coming out of that place. Thanks for your support! :wave:
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On 2005-12-22 18:59:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Who's trying to close it down?
idiot. "
Watch your back Bruce...There are sickos out there, and I wouldnt want anything to happen to you, I like you, but think you may be getting a little too aggressive, try to relax my friend.
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Perspective parents, right..Like they come to FORNITS FOR ADVICE :lol: :lol: :lol:
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No, not advice, but they do visit and read regularly. Don't believe it, doesn't really make any difference if you do or not...its a fact.
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Yea I bet, get real .. ::bwahaha:: ::bwahaha::
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Sweetheart, I've been around these fora for a few years now. Its true whether you want to believe it or not.
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You are full of shit, go choke or something..
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If you think that parents that are serious about the welfare of their children are going to come to a message board for advice about where to place their children then you are a more delusional group than I thought. People get a grip on reality already!
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On 2005-12-22 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you think that parents that are serious about the welfare of their children are going to come to a message board for advice about where to place their children then you are a more delusional group than I thought. People get a grip on reality already! "
God, I love you !!!! Ive been saying the same shit for months now, these people that cry all day are definitely retarded!!!
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On 2005-12-22 19:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You ya fucking fagot ass"
If you arent going to pay attention in class just go back to sleep. You arent contributing anything useful and no one is trying to close things down. You are helping our cause though.
Thanks again.
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On 2005-12-22 19:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-22 18:59:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Who's trying to close it down?
idiot. "
Watch your back Bruce...There are sickos out there, and I wouldnt want anything to happen to you, I like you, but think you may be getting a little too aggressive, try to relax my friend."
These impotent retards can accomplish little to nothing. Im really not worried, but I am relaxed, I actually quite watching them squirm under the hot lights.
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On 2005-12-22 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you think that parents that are serious about the welfare of their children are going to come to a message board for advice about where to place their children then you are a more delusional group than I thought. People get a grip on reality already! "
Oh but we do, you and your fellow puppets are operating under the delusion that parents dont view this site simply because your owner is afraid of the truth and thus tells you not to believe it.
The truth is I personally have spoken with more than a dozen parents over the past year thanking me for telling the truth about HLA before it was to late.
Don't believe it?
Go right ahead and keep deluding yourself, it makes no difference to me. Your stomping your feet and claims that Im lying about it wont change the truth.
So offer up your typical non responses, childlike insults that no one cares about and insist it isnt so. All while your little kingdom crashes all around you.
Obviously we're making real noise now. Why else would Bill Gray come on here? It wont be long before the Buch shows up.
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On 2005-12-22 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you think that parents that are serious about the welfare of their children are going to come to a message board for advice about where to place their children then you are a more delusional group than I thought. People get a grip on reality already! "
I guess you can't read. I said that they don't necessarily come for people to advise them, but they do visit and read regularly. Some have contacted registered users and asked questions, not advice, questions. Then they continue to read and investigate on their own. More often than not, they think twice about handing their kid over to these places. I can think of quite a few emails that I've personally gotten over the years stating just that. Like I said, believe what you want, it really makes no difference. I (and many others) know what we know.
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Bill Gray does not post on this site.
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......and if you had done your infamous IP search, you would have realized that.
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On 2005-12-22 19:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you think that parents that are serious about the welfare of their children are going to come to a message board for advice about where to place their children then you are a more delusional group than I thought. People get a grip on reality already! "
People like are the reason parents contact people like me. When they read your petty insults and dogmatic defense of child abuse, they ask "What's wrong with that place?"
You are helping to turn away prospective patients. I thank you sincerely for that.
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Regarding tracing someone's IP, I did an IP search on my own IP, and it shows my location in a town 20 miles away in a different county. IP tracing can be inaccurate.
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Why would anyone believe you Devin? You have been caught in a lie about who you are. You lie and then accuse others of lying. You have no credibility.
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On 2005-12-23 05:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why would anyone believe you Devin? You have been caught in a lie about who you are. You lie and then accuse others of lying. You have no credibility. "
Let's use one of YOUR lines. PROVE IT. You have no idea and no proof, so you lie and try to lower someone's credibility. Your personal attacks are due to the fact that you advocate the abuse of children and have a hard time fending off the fray when you come right out say what your REAL motive/beliefs are. SAME OL' LAME RESPONSES...
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Ladies and Gentlemen...Introducing Mr. Robert Bruce....
Straight from the Myspace.com site of Mr. Devin Reyner.
"My all time hero is John McCain, that man without a doubt should be our next President."
"Hmmm, well Im a history major"
"On that political note, I did have the goal of meeting John McCain but Ive attained that goal so that one is kind of out."
Mr. Reyner was also at HLA at the same time as Dan from PG 26.
The above was posted the other day offering strong similarities between Robert Bruce and Devin Reyner. Plus Robert contracited himself a few posts later. One minute he said that he had talked to Devin at length about John McCaine and being a history major, the next he said he looked up Devin's sight and learned that he is not a history major. Which is it Robert? You were caught in a lie. You lie. You have no credibility.
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Bill Gray does not post on this site.>>>
And, WHO would know this with certainty except Bill?
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His ex wife would know
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If you would have looked at those posts' IP's, you wouldn't have to ask that question. Those posts were not posted from the state of Georgia. Therefore, it cannot be Bill Gray. He has never posted on this site.
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By the way Georgie boy, he won't be posting on your HLA survivors myspace board you posted today on either. You are mistaken. Bill Gray has never posted to you on here.
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On 2005-12-23 05:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why would anyone believe you Devin? You have been caught in a lie about who you are. You lie and then accuse others of lying. You have no credibility. "
This according to you. Since the fact remains you have the wrong name I suppose I havent been caught in a lie and you yourself have no credibility. Go ahead draw up your papers. Youll go to an awful lot of trouble with nothing to show for it.
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Nice try Devin. You have been caught.
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suzanne, you're such a good little apologist. so would 'bill's ex wife' (you) also be the one who's respondinig to the questions posed to the staff/adminitration? if not you, or bill, then who?
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 240#158140 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12693&forum=41&start=240#158140)
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On 2005-12-23 10:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Nice try Devin. You have been caught."
Can you prove it?
No.
You really have no idea.
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Nice try Devin. You have been caught.>>>
caught??? even if that were the case, how might that be different than what you, Suzanne, and other apologists are doing? posting anonymously. you all live in the hla fantasy which defends a double-standard. you might go back in history and read your comments from day one. you have not modeled responsible adult behavior since you arrived. you bicker with anyone who will bicker back. such petty bullshit from those who would punish kids for the same.
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He wont respond to that, not that it matters because he hasnt caught anything have you?
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No it is not her posting the answers done today
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On 2005-12-23 10:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"By the way Georgie boy, he won't be posting on your HLA survivors myspace board you posted today on either. You are mistaken. Bill Gray has never posted to you on here. "
This coming from a brown-bag cloak, an Anonypussy. Don't take it personally if I completely ignore every letter you submit onto the board.
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By the way, Susie, while your here, why exactly are you and Bill no more?
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George this is SHH. Bill and I got divorced almost 5 years ago. And quite frankly, it is none of your business why we got divorced. That is between he and I and none of your concern.
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Vagrant.
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why should it matter why a divorce happened? how does that apply to your life, or what you are saying? oh yeh, i forgot, IT DOESN'T.
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Who's the vagrant?
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On 2005-12-23 18:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Who's the vagrant?"
Your Mother
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Oh thats a good one!!
:razz:
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:wink: :wink:
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On 2005-12-23 18:17:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"why should it matter why a divorce happened? how does that apply to your life, or what you are saying? oh yeh, i forgot, IT DOESN'T."
No one claimed it did tunafish, now get to those questions. For someone who claimed to have huge testicals you sure are afraid of an awful lot.
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and here are yours tunafish, just so you like your mentor cannot claim no such questions were asked.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =30#155662 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12971&forum=41&start=30#155662)
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How about discussing what actually goes on INSIDE that place instead of you guys trying to figure out who is who and who is better than who and who said what. It really doesn't matter and the rest of us are getting tired of wading through these posts to find some nugget of useful info.
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I agree, hence why I asked tunafish to answer those questions.
Like the situation regarding whether or not staff is ever allowed to touch students.
How is HLA licensed?
Why is HLA against students having a venue to air their greivances? Who do they talk to if they have a legitimate complaint against the school?
Is food rationed?
Are the "bad" students ever quarantiened from the general population when large groups of visitors come?
Are the students used as slave labor?
Is this legal?
How safe and clean is the school?
Lets see what kind of answers we get.
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i owe you nothing, nor do i feel the need to answer half of your petty questions.
but, i will go on and answer a select few, that i feel i have time to answer, at the present moment. Yes, students are kept away from visitors and the general population, when they are being out of control, or extremly negitive... why bring down everyone else, with some peoples misbehaviors? and yes, this is completly legal. When a parent signs their child into HLA, they are relinquishing some sort of parental rights.
now, lets leave the rest to someone else, or another time.
...and mr.bruce, your little immature nicknames are not needed, at all, in any way whatsoever... but if they make you happy, keep on with them. it just shows your IMMATURITY.
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You say you'll answer a few and then answer one out of...what 18?
Thats not really a few tunafish, its one.
As to the nicknames its no different than youve behaved so if you want to consider me being immature, have at it, because you set the trend here so, so are you.
Now not that anyone questioned the legality of hiding the students away, however one wonders why it is practiced. You claim it is for students who are "out of control" " or are being negative"? How are they out of control? How are they being negative? Could it be they just arent happy there, or they are more outspoken about their conditions and the school doesnt want visitors talking to any students that might offer a.....different perspective?
I'd be willing to bet that's it. The school doesnt want the educational consultants or the families talking to the kids who "arent getting with the program" for fear that those kids might let something slip the school would rather keep quiet.
Do you have a different explination? Please if so give it. Also get to some of those other questions. Use either of your two names it makes no difference to me.
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Oh and as for you not feeling the need to answer my "petty questions" if thats the case why did you make the comments that brought them about to begin with?
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i only answer what i feel like answering, when i feel like doing so... just as anyone else does. again, i state, i owe you nothing, ergo, i will give only what i want too offer.
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Where are you Joe?? :scared:
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On 2005-12-24 15:16:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"i only answer what i feel like answering, when i feel like doing so... just as anyone else does. again, i state, i owe you nothing, ergo, i will give only what i want too offer."
Hey all you had to say was,
"Robert I made a bunch of really stupid comments I cant back up. Please dont draw any more attention to it as I already feel really stupid about the whole thing and Im trying to forget it ever happened with the hopes that you will as well. I'd alse rather not discuss some of the more questionable aspects of HLA, as I havent hard that portion of my brainwashing installed yet and if you keep asking those kinds of questions without me answering people will discover the truth."
Really thats all you had to say. I understand completly that you are stupid weak and cowardly and cant answer the questions.
You should have just said so.
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i wouldn't renig on a single thing i have said. point blank... i am right, and you are wrong.
maybe you should though, "mr. i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about"
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On 2005-12-24 19:11:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"i wouldn't renig on a single thing i have said. point blank... i am right, and you are wrong.
maybe you should though, "mr. i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about""
...ok Ms. "realworld." Remember, you're the one making up false identities to try to bolster your credibility. It's at an all time low, by the way. What a phony!
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The rumor about this person being both aften and realworld is just that, rumor. I want to see hard evidence of this before I pass judgement. I am not going to just take Robert's "word" for it. His word hasn't exactly been accurate every time.
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On 2005-12-25 05:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The rumor about this person being both aften and realworld is just that, rumor. I want to see hard evidence of this before I pass judgement. I am not going to just take Robert's "word" for it. His word hasn't exactly been accurate every time."
Here you go, dummy. Half of the posts below are Aften and half are realworld, both of whom have the same IP address and also the same yahoo identity. If you can't figure this out, you have no business participating in any activity that requires thought, because you're already brain-dead.
This just goes to show the lies, deceit and manipulation programmies use to support a position that virtually nobody agrees with. They just create another person to be the "yes man." How pathetic, Aften.
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i wouldn't renig on a single thing i have said. point blank... i am right, and you are wrong.
maybe you should though, "mr. i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about"
i only answer what i feel like answering, when i feel like doing so... just as anyone else does. again, i state, i owe you nothing, ergo, i will give only what i want too offer.
i owe you nothing, nor do i feel the need to answer half of your petty questions.
but, i will go on and answer a select few, that i feel i have time to answer, at the present moment. Yes, students are kept away from visitors and the general population, when they are being out of control, or extremly negitive... why bring down everyone else, with some peoples misbehaviors? and yes, this is completly legal. When a parent signs their child into HLA, they are relinquishing some sort of parental rights.
now, lets leave the rest to someone else, or another time.
...and mr.bruce, your little immature nicknames are not needed, at all, in any way whatsoever... but if they make you happy, keep on with them. it just shows your IMMATURITY.
keep on thinking what you want to... but you will always be wrong in that aspect.
i am most certainly not Aften...that was a nice guess though Mr.Bruce
all i have to say for myself, is that i will not state anything other than facts. I will not make generalizations, and accept each and everyone's comments with ration and respect, as i hope you will do the same for me... give it some thought, and ask what you wish to ask. i will take into consideration every single question, and concern. i am not here to be your friend, nor enemy... i am here to help provide accurate information, whether or not Dr. Len wants to see what i say... i am acting on my own free will, and have not been put up to this by anyone other myself.
Mr.Bruce... who do you claim works there, verses who does not? I am only making claims that i can back up, thank you very much... you want to continue to claim that there are not very invasive records and tests for the staff members now?
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Yeah, they're two different people that use the same computer, the same internet connection, have the same opinions, spell the same words wrong, use the same punctuation and have never been online contemperaneously. You people are DUMB AS HELL and as gullible as they come. Perfect fodder for the abuse factory's marketing plan.
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Where are the IP numbers to compare this info? I don't see them. Are we supposed to take your word for it?
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On 2005-12-25 11:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Where are the IP numbers to compare this info? I don't see them. Are we supposed to take your word for it? "
"What do you mean they're beating and starving you? I'm supposed to take your word for it? just because you're skinny and have bruises doesn't mean anything."
You don't have to take anybody's word for anything. If you can't examine the writing and take into account that the two usernames share the same yahoo username, then showing you an IP trace summary wouldn't mean anything to you anyway.
Can you not examine the facts that you can verify and come to an intelligent conclusion? Like I said before, if you can't see what's in front of your face, why should I bother to try to explain it to you? You're ALREADY TOO DUMB TO UNDERSTAND if it's not obvious to you.
I'd suggest carrying a bucket of sand with you so when you're asked to think or observe you can just bury your (pin)head.
As many times as I have dealt with you dolts it never surprises me how ignorant you are. Again, it's no mistake you failed as parents and couldn't get the job done raising your kids.
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Oh you assume too much. It could get you into trouble one day. It is typical for one to insult another when they have no facts and can't face the truth. Shows no backbone and a weak personality.
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On 2005-12-25 05:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The rumor about this person being both aften and realworld is just that, rumor. I want to see hard evidence of this before I pass judgement. I am not going to just take Robert's "word" for it. His word hasn't exactly been accurate every time."
Show hard evidence that children haven't been abused at HLA. Until you do, then everyone will know that kids have been abused there. Heck, I'd settle for ANY kind of facts (not opinions/surveys) that HLA does anything other than HARM YOUNG CHILDREN. I've seen plenty of evidence that it does, but I've never seen any that it doesn't.
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On 2005-12-25 11:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Oh you assume too much. It could get you into trouble one day. It is typical for one to insult another when they have no facts and can't face the truth. Shows no backbone and a weak personality."
So you're making excuses as to why you can't see the obvious? Makes sense coming from you.
Aften = Realworld like it or not. Your ignorance doesn't change anything.
For dummies like you 2 +2 = 5 and someone has to PROVE to you that it doesn't. Just because you're an ignorant fool doesn't mean everyone else is.
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On 2005-12-24 19:11:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"i wouldn't renig on a single thing i have said. point blank... i am right, and you are wrong.
maybe you should though, "mr. i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about""
If that's true than you should have no trouble backing up all of your claims and answering all the questions put to you.
So do it.
If you can.
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what do you feel i should back up? you really expect me to go through every single claim on here through all the threads? wow... why would i want to spend that much time on here?? c'mon now, i'm not you mr.bruce. i don't stay on here 24/7
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Nor do I.
Well if you arent willing to back them all up, how can you say you wouldnt renig on any of them yet I should somehow renig on mine?
Are you still operating under the assumption that it is acceptable for a person to make any sort of ridiculus claim that pops into their head, because they never need back it up?
Or does that still only apply to you?
I'll make it easier on you, just answer the questions I put to you.
Now if you cant do it all you have to do is say so and I'll happily drop the matter.
You just let me know.
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start away with your questions... just realize that i may not answer everything at once, if you try a list oh so very long... i'm only on for limited times, and i dont care to go searching for questions...
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Show hard evidence that children haven't been abused at HLA.
This is the stupidest kind of statement. Asking for evidence of something that didn't happen. Hey, why don't you prove that an army of winged monkeys didn't fly over your house last night. The burden of proof is on the acuser. Otherwise you are just trying to ask questions that are impossible to answer and back people into a corner.
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This is the same in a court of law. The accuser has to prove there has been a crime committed. It is not up to the accused to prove he didn't commit a crime unless there is evidence that he did. The burdon of proof is on the accuser first.
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On 2005-12-27 11:30:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"start away with your questions... just realize that i may not answer everything at once, if you try a list oh so very long... i'm only on for limited times, and i dont care to go searching for questions... "
Aften honey, I hope you really arent quite this slow, otherwise youve got more problems than initially thought.
Youve been given the questions....twice. Let's hope third times a charm.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =30#155662 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12971&forum=41&start=30#155662)
Once youre done evading those, we can move on to the other questions youve been ignoring out of fear.
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On 2005-12-27 11:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Show hard evidence that children haven't been abused at HLA.
This is the stupidest kind of statement. Asking for evidence of something that didn't happen. Hey, why don't you prove that an army of winged monkeys didn't fly over your house last night. The burden of proof is on the acuser. Otherwise you are just trying to ask questions that are impossible to answer and back people into a corner."
Are you that dumb or did you just miss the point? He was arguing that the standard you all have been clinging to is that 2+2=5 and you want someone to prove to you that it doesnt. He was making the point because despite all the evidence we have shown on countless issues, you people are still to dumb and/or brainwashed to accept the truth.
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I have no respect for anyone unless they put a picture of themesleves on this site, I want to see what ya'll look like.
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Okay. you first.
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(http://http://www.scoutisaband.com/blog/uploaded_images/pic_andy_1-766928.jpg)
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Who is that supposed to be?
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I believe that's Andy Milonakis or whatever the hell his name is, the "Man Show Boy".
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It's me, Andy. :wave:
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On 2005-12-28 06:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's me, Andy. :wave: "
HEY ANDY, YOU SEEM SEXY, WANNA CUM AND FUCK MY BRAINS OUT? EMAIL ME ANGRYBLONDEXXX@AOL.COM
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On 2005-12-28 12:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-28 06:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's me, Andy. :wave: "
HEY ANDY, YOU SEEM SEXY, WANNA CUM AND FUCK MY BRAINS OUT? EMAIL ME ANGRYBLONDEXXX@AOL.COM"
aka "abc123" :eek:
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On 2005-12-28 12:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-28 06:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's me, Andy. :wave: "
HEY ANDY, YOU SEEM SEXY, WANNA CUM AND FUCK MY BRAINS OUT? EMAIL ME ANGRYBLONDEXXX@AOL.COM"
(http://http://www.esseb.com/andail/dicpics/andy.jpg)
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On 2005-12-28 12:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-28 12:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-12-28 06:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's me, Andy. :wave: "
HEY ANDY, YOU SEEM SEXY, WANNA CUM AND FUCK MY BRAINS OUT? EMAIL ME ANGRYBLONDEXXX@AOL.COM"
aka "abc123" :eek: "
See Robert. This is why I did not want to put up a user name. I have done nothing but answer questions in a civil, and in my opinion, very honest manner. Yet despite that, some person gets on here and makes assumptions about me saying something that I would never say. I am happy to answer questions, but I will not be a part of this kind of foolishness.
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Sorry. Forgot to log in. The above was written by me.
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On 2005-12-28 13:03:00, Anonymous
See Robert. This is why I did not want to put up a user name. I have done nothing but answer questions in a civil, and in my opinion, very honest manner. Yet despite that, some person gets on here and makes assumptions about me saying something that I would never say. I am happy to answer questions, but I will not be a part of this kind of foolishness."
Then don't. This is a product of an open forum. Ignore the assinine name calling and simply respond to those who are respectfully agreeing or disagreeing with you. From someone who's been reading, I appreciate your civil tone and willingness to answer questions.
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On 2005-12-28 13:04:00, abc123 wrote:
"Sorry. Forgot to log in. The above was written by me."
so you're angry and horny. so what? who isn't?
don't be such a baby.
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Ignore the assinine name calling and simply respond to those who are respectfully agreeing or disagreeing with you.>>>>
You're trying to reason with a control freak. That's like telling an alchy to stop drinking. They want to control their entire environment, even though it's impossible to do so.
My questions is, how can a 'counselor' who takes everything personally possibly work with or assist teens?
They can't. So they resort to harsh and irrational punishment.
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On 2005-12-28 13:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ignore the assinine name calling and simply respond to those who are respectfully agreeing or disagreeing with you.>>>>
You're trying to reason with a control freak. That's like telling an alchy to stop drinking. They want to control their entire environment, even though it's impossible to do so.
My questions is, how can a 'counselor' who takes everything personally possibly work with or assist teens?
They can't. So they resort to harsh and irrational punishment. "
Believe me, I can "take" anything that is said on this board. I was just making the point that even if someone comes on this board in a respectful way, they end up getting trashed. It goes to show that SOME people on this board are just out for a fight. I believe there are others who truly are concerned and want some answers. There was a perfectly civil debate beginning to take place on this strain and it is starting to turn into another bash session. I wish at least one strain on this board could stick with an intellectual debate. At least Robert Bruce, even though he engages in the verbal jabs at times, seems to genuinely want to debate legitimate points. I wish others would do the same. It lend a lot more legitimacy to the conversation.
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"At least Robert Bruce, even though he engages in the verbal jabs at times, seems to genuinely want to debate legitimate points. I wish others would do the same. It lend a lot more legitimacy to the conversation."
Well, now we can agree on something. RobertBruce IS legitimate.
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Fuck off little whiner :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:
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RobertBruce is a *legitimate* ASSHOLE pussy that cries all fucking day long, that I agree with :tup:
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On 2005-12-28 15:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
""At least Robert Bruce, even though he engages in the verbal jabs at times, seems to genuinely want to debate legitimate points. I wish others would do the same. It lend a lot more legitimacy to the conversation."
Well, now we can agree on something. RobertBruce IS legitimate."
A legitimate idiot
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Yet he wins every argument.
ABC dont sweat the short bus riders. Their leader Susie Gray is just still very bitter about a number of things, namley her ex husband went for the upgrade in his second wife, and that she cannot get over her fear of the truth. Aften as well is angry over her latent attraction to Susie coupled with her penis envy and the fact that she cannot show her face around here without having a dozen of her stupid comments thrown in her face, and she really doesnt like it in the face. The hired stooge is just angry that his grandma isnt dead yet. He's waiting for that to happen so he can:
A. Have his way with her corpse.
B. Lay claim to all her clothes.
In any event dont worry about them, let them have their little pouting session and think they make a difference in any respect. In the mean time I hope you and I can continue our discussion.
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Robert? Are we done with the same old rhetoric yet?? Come on now, I know you can do it, be a good loser!!
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Oh no...I'm a winner.
At school.
At work
In the court room.
:wave:
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Do you love Bucci???
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Robert you have problems. To post what you just did is not only complete and utter bullshit, it is mean as hell and uncalled for. You don't know me. You don't know Aften. Neither one of us has ever addressed you in that manner. I don't even know her.
Why don't you direct your immature comments to the anonymous posters who deserve it and leave me the hell out of it for once.
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On 2005-12-28 16:21:00, SHH wrote:
"Robert you have problems. To post what you just did is not only complete and utter bullshit, it is mean as hell and uncalled for. You don't know me. You don't know Aften. Neither one of us has ever addressed you in that manner. I don't even know her.
Why don't you direct your immature comments to the anonymous posters who deserve it and leave me the hell out of it for once."
Right the FUCK ON SHH!!!YEAH!!
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On 2005-12-28 16:21:00, SHH wrote:
"Robert you have problems. To post what you just did is not only complete and utter bullshit, it is mean as hell and uncalled for. You don't know me. You don't know Aften. Neither one of us has ever addressed you in that manner. I don't even know her.
Why don't you direct your immature comments to the anonymous posters who deserve it and leave me the hell out of it for once."
Again you employ your double standards. Ive explained this to you many many times. The rules are different out here than what you are used to at HLA. You are not free to employ your double standards and hypocricy without being called on it. You are not right just because you insist you are. I have treated you and Aften with same respect and regard that you have shown to me and to others. If you cannot handle that I suggest you go get your job back at HLA, where you are free to treat the students there in whatever manner you wish and to punish them simply for proving you wrong or telling you the truth about yourself. You obviously cannot handle it out here. Tough shit for you though I guess.
Treat people how you want to be treated. I am able to have a civil conversation with ABC, because he's respectful, and unlike you isnt scared to death to answer questions.
You want me to stop being so mean to you? Then stop being a bitch yourself. And while your at it stop being such a cry baby, and go answer those questions.
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no mr.bruce, you just throw random, meaningless insults amidst your questions. if you could quit your bullshit insults, and stick with what you are really trying to say, maybe you would recieve a little respect. i have never thrown insults at you, yet you still do at me... nice... very nice, respectful, and mature... NOT
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Bruce just needs some dick :lol:
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find me a post of mine where I have insulted you in the manner which you have insulted me Robert. Just because you don't believe what I have to say and because I called you a liar on things that I don't believe to be true does not give you the right to say the horrible things you have said to me. So you don't agree with me. So what. Say you don't agree with me and go on. Call me a liar, call me full of shit. I don't give a shit. But to say that I am ugly, fat, a child abuser, skank ho, that my husband left me for a better woman, that I cheated on my husband with white trash, that I need to have my children taken away from me, that I am stupid, retarded, and should kill myself???? Robert can you not see how ridiculous all that is?? How old are you seriously??? You cannot expect to talk to people you don't even know like that and get respect. Get over your holier than thou attitude dude. You aren't any better than anybody else.
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One more thing, I havent been employed at hla for years,.
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On 2005-12-28 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Bruce just needs some dick :lol: "
Yea, he gets a bit cranky when his butthole gets tight!
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you anonymous bastards aren't helping matters ya know. Think about it. You are making yourselves look like a bunch of 12 yr olds. OH wait, maybe you are 12!!!!
Never mind.
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Stop yer whinin' ya fucker :roll:
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because I called you a liar on things that I don't believe to be true>>>
Suzanne and Aften,
Read the posts by ABC and see if you can see ANY difference between his and your comments to RB.
From the moment you both arrived you have repeatedly called him a liar. And the kicker, 'on things you don't believe to be true'. Somehow I doubt that either of you would be receiving the flack that's coming your way if you hadn't incited it. I have to wonder if you both don't enjoy it on some level.
You absolutely could stick to posting your personal experiences without disrespecting those who are here to tell their stories, which you may or may not believe.
Course, if you did that, you wouldn't have much to contribute, would you????
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Call me a liar, call me full of shit. I don't give a shit. But to say that I am ugly, fat, a child abuser, skank ho, that my husband left me for a better woman, that I cheated on my husband with white trash, that I need to have my children taken away from me, that I am stupid, retarded, and should kill myself????>>>>>>>>>
Could one of you lurking staff members please help this woman? Sticks and stones, Susie. I'm sure you've heard it since kindergarten.
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On 2005-12-28 17:04:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"no mr.bruce, you just throw random, meaningless insults amidst your questions. if you could quit your bullshit insults, and stick with what you are really trying to say, maybe you would recieve a little respect. i have never thrown insults at you, yet you still do at me... nice... very nice, respectful, and mature... NOT"
yeah, and if you hadn't been busted perpetrating fraud by using two screennames you might have some credibility, but you did get pinched. then you lied about it even more. you're the typical product off the HLA asssembly line. lie, cheat, steal, whatever you have to do to come out on top. well, nobody believes you anymore. you've ruined that. why bother posting at all when nobody can believe a single word you say anyway?
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On 2005-12-28 18:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am ugly, fat, a child abuser, skank ho, that my husband left me for a better woman, that I cheated on my husband with white trash, that I need to have my children taken away from me, that I am stupid, retarded, and should kill myself"
thank you for admitting these things, mrs. gray. your recovery from fat-ugly-stupid-cuckold-kids taken-retarded-should kill yourself can now begin in earnest.
lets start with a complete sexual history with details for the group.
group: "welcome, susie!"
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On 2005-12-28 17:04:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"no mr.bruce, you just throw random, meaningless insults amidst your questions. if you could quit your bullshit insults, and stick with what you are really trying to say, maybe you would recieve a little respect. i have never thrown insults at you, yet you still do at me... nice... very nice, respectful, and mature... NOT"
Are you blind or just retarded? You lumped me into your assumptions about every student at HLA remember? Something you still havent backed up. You also told me that not only were you better than me in every sense but you were somehow smarter than me. Other points you havent had the courage to back up. Dont cry about it now Aften, you set the tone for these conversations, not me. If you cant handle it leave.
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On 2005-12-28 18:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"find me a post of mine where I have insulted you in the manner which you have insulted me Robert. Just because you don't believe what I have to say and because I called you a liar on things that I don't believe to be true does not give you the right to say the horrible things you have said to me. So you don't agree with me. So what. Say you don't agree with me and go on. Call me a liar, call me full of shit. I don't give a shit. But to say that I am ugly, fat, a child abuser, skank ho, that my husband left me for a better woman, that I cheated on my husband with white trash, that I need to have my children taken away from me, that I am stupid, retarded, and should kill myself???? Robert can you not see how ridiculous all that is?? How old are you seriously??? You cannot expect to talk to people you don't even know like that and get respect. Get over your holier than thou attitude dude. You aren't any better than anybody else."
"Just because I called you a liar"? Are you seriously this full of yourself Susie? You know I think a better name for you might be Dolores. I'll say the same thing to you that I said to Aften. You set the tone for these conversations, dont cry about it now.
Further I never said half the stuff you are accusing me of.
Oh and whatever gave you the misguided impression I care what you puppets think. I dont. You however seem to, if thats the case why not muster up some courage and go knock out those questions put to you that you are avoiding.
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I think Bruce has a secret crush on Susie and wants her to sit on his face
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On 2005-12-29 17:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I think Bruce has a secret crush on Susie and wants her to sit on his face"
Confirmed
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Susie you can dream about it if you want...but Im sorry I just have higher standards than that.
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On 2005-12-29 18:38:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Susie you can dream about it if you want...but Im sorry I just have higher standards than that. "
For some odd reason, I HIGHLY doubt that my friend
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haha...seems true to me too
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I have relatives visiting from Florida and havent been on here. That definately wasnt me posting that! Ewwww! My standards are higher than that too!
:roll:
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Well the bar has to be set high for you, afterall you are looking up from the bottom of the barrel.
When will you work the courage to answer those questions?
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Its not a matter of courage its a matter of I dont know which ones I havent answered. I went to that link you posted last week and never found a question posted directly to me that I hadnt already answered. Which ones havent I answered for you NOW Robert? You tend to ask 20 or 30 at a time and when I answer you don't like the answer and then ask them again. Which ones would you like for me to answer this time so you can bash my answers to them and go around and around again? (Damn this gets ridiculous) You know its not like I have hours to spend hunting the friggin message board pages for stuff. Im not like SOME people.
You mentioned courage. Ive got a ton of it thank you very much. Try living my life for a week and you will see what I mean.
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Susie,
Please spare us, the other readers here, who aren't interested in your answers.
How about you and RB take up a dialogue via private messages in which he can ask you to answer questions and you can claim you have or don't have time.
It is getting old. This is not the Susie/RB forum.... and you can stop it by ignoring it or speaking to/ arguing with him privately.
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fine with me.
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On 2005-12-30 10:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Susie,
Please spare us, the other readers here, who aren't interested in your answers.
How about you and RB take up a dialogue via private messages in which he can ask you to answer questions and you can claim you have or don't have time.
It is getting old. This is not the Susie/RB forum.... and you can stop it by ignoring it or speaking to/ arguing with him privately. "
Brilliant idea...
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On 2005-12-30 10:00:00, SHH wrote:
"
You mentioned bodyfat. Ive got a ton of it thank you very much. Try living my life for a week and you will see what I mean."
:wave: :lol:
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OK, that was funny!! :rofl: :rofl:
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On 2005-12-30 10:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Its not a matter of courage its a matter of I dont know which ones I havent answered. I went to that link you posted last week and never found a question posted directly to me that I hadnt already answered. Which ones havent I answered for you NOW Robert? You tend to ask 20 or 30 at a time and when I answer you don't like the answer and then ask them again. Which ones would you like for me to answer this time so you can bash my answers to them and go around and around again? (Damn this gets ridiculous) You know its not like I have hours to spend hunting the friggin message board pages for stuff. Im not like SOME people.
You mentioned courage. Ive got a ton of it thank you very much. Try living my life for a week and you will see what I mean."
Youre right Dolores this is getting ridiculus. How you can be so weak minded, such a pathetic coward yet still get up and out of bed each and every morning is ridiculus. Why bother?
I have given you these questions three times now. And three times youve done your usual song and dance of dodging and evading. Always out of fear and always with an excuse.
Here are the questions Dolores.
Looking forward to you evading them again. The time stamp is 8:44.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... =200&Sort= (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=12691&forum=41&start=200&Sort=)
As to your life of courage, I would really question the life of a clerk in a bank requires a whole lot of courage and from what youve shown of yourself on here you are in all likelyhood afraid of your own shadow.
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 355#160059 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=355#160059)
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Here you are Dolores.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 350#160065 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=350#160065)
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On 2005-12-30 16:17:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Here you are Dolores.
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 350#160065 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=12691&forum=41&start=350#160065)"
Thanks fag boy!
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Youre welcome short bus.
:wave:
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On 2005-12-30 16:19:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"Youre welcome short bus.
:wave: "
Your pretty cool for having NO life and sucking dick full time..
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Short Bus what have I told you about your voyeristic fantasies?
NO means NO!
Whatever dreams you have in your little mind of us together are bad bad bad. If you dont stop this I will tell your grandmother and you know how she'll respond.
You may 37 years old but you arent to old to get the switch. Isnt that what granny tells you short bus?
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Im not the dude that you commonly call "short bus" but whatever works for you jerk-off!! :wave:
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CHRYSSANTHAKOPOULOS
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Brucey is getting his "turkey stuffed"
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You're doing a heckava job, Brucey!
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On 2005-12-30 18:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Brucey is getting his "turkey stuffed" "
:lol: :lol:
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My goodness Short Bus, you go on and on about how no one else on here has a life, and getting turkey's stuffed, yet here you sat all Friday night.
Wow quite an exciting night for you huh?
Whats the matter Short Bus? Grandma wasnt up for her nightly game of scrabble?
What a pathetic dooche you must be.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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On 2005-12-30 22:04:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"My goodness Short Bus, you go on and on about how no one else on here has a life, and getting turkey's stuffed, yet here you sat all Friday night.
Wow quite an exciting night for you huh?
Whats the matter Short Bus? Grandma wasnt up for her nightly game of scrabble?
What a pathetic dooche you must be.
:lol: :lol: :lol: "
Good point RB. Seems this poster was on this forum all nite on a Friday. Talk about having no life. And add in the fact that not a single intelligent thought was offered and you've got a strong case for this fella having no life whatsoever.
Just another case of the pot calling the kettle queer.
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On 2005-12-25 11:00:00, SHH posting Anon wrote:
"Where are the IP numbers to compare this info? I don't see them. Are we supposed to take your word for it? "
Nah. Don't take my word for it. I clearly don't understand how this stuff works.
Maybe next time you'll listen, Cybill. It would be a heck of a lot less embarrassing, now wouldn't it?
"The last refuge of guilt is denial." :nworthy:
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On 2005-12-18 19:06:00, SHH Anon Classics wrote:
"Drug testing wasnt done when Dysfunction was hired because it wasnt set up then. he was one of the first 20 employees. Things changed and drug testing of new employees and random drug testing were both done on a regular basis by the year 1998 or 1999 and continues today."
Ahhh, sweet vindication. From your own words, no drug testing was performed.
I'll also take this to say that you believe abc123 was lying about when drug testing began.
"SHH Anon Classics" really do straighten out a lot of the lies and doubletalk by HLA employees.
Thanks.
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Let me clear this one up. I said they were done on a regular basis by 1998. But earlier than that it was a random drug testing thing. I was randomly tested in 1997. From what I remember the random thing started earlier than that. I dont remember when the new hires started getting drug tested prior to employment.
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You dont remember or you dont know? You never knew because you were not involved with the school.
Either way youre mincing your words here. You didnt say random drug testing done prior to 98 you said "no drug testing".
So the fact remains that HLA did not screen employees for the first few years.
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What makes you think I don't work there? Do you have me mistaken for another poster? Are you getting confused Mr. Bruce?
I just found this to be a prime examples of old Sauna's Bullshit.
Do you realize you have zero credibility and would be smart to stop talking all together?
Nevermind you arent that smart.