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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Troll Control on November 09, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
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I heard some stories about this guy from some female former "clients." Who can elaborate on this fellow?
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D Pervel is a nice guy for real I liked that man and respected him 4sure he tol dme befor eI got kicked out that "I wish i had some say in were you were going." He was really supportive and helpful Danny I misss you dawg
But I have heard some stories but more of Chris Rowe
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i've heard things about both, but i cant say i know anything for fact, but i am pretty sure that both of them were in "relationships" with students....
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I definently heard a lot about him... but I never really put my nose where it didn't belong, unless there was some reason, and he didn't really concern me... who knows...
Staff did engage in relationships with students on occasions though, and that is where I will leave it.
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What? Staff members behaving inappropiatly with students? At HLA?? NEVER You must all still be very "angry" Im going to recomend a restriction for each and every one of you.
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haha... staff memebers weren't always as "good" as people would have assumed... lol
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shit danny pervel was cool until his fuckin promotion then he turned into a complete dickhead, i hate that guy for what he did cuz it just showed that he is a fake person. he was seriously SUCH A FUCKING DICK after that promotion i mean damn.
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how did he get a promotion after fucking around with lauren?? thats craziness!!! what'd he do to meake you ahte him so much though, joe dirt??
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On 2005-11-09 21:44:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"how did he get a promotion after fucking around with lauren?? thats craziness!!! what'd he do to meake you ahte him so much though, joe dirt??"
Are you saying he had sexual relations with a client? Can you elaborate? BTW, I've heard this before from several girls. They have reported that this guy comes on very strong sexually to the female students and uses intimidation to get what he wants.
I'd like to know more about this man and how he ended up getting promoted after allegations of sexual misconduct. Please respond with details.
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If details are wanted, feel free to contact me at aftenthurston@yahoo.com
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What's his role as Dean of Students?
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On 2005-11-10 10:29:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"If details are wanted, feel free to contact me at aftenthurston@yahoo.com "
Could you please PM me with any details? Thanks in advance...
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to be honest with you, i do not know how to pvt on here... im terribly sorry. my yahoo im name is the same, as well as msn im... sorry again hun.
on another note, i recently read that he wasn't the only one fucking around... Curtis ring a bell to anyone?
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pervel got caught messing with lauren, i spoke with her breifly about it when she visited the school long after she graduated, i think she would be less likely to lie about it then, if she was lieing before. but anyways he got fired and came back later on, then got promoted. the reason he is such a dick is because he used to come in the dorms, wake us up early, make us leave early, do other peoples chores, give ppl lodge clean up and tell them he had no reason just that we looked like we needed something to do. he ALWAYS make us late for class to finish lodge clean up also, most of the time i didnt even get it he just made me do it for the hell of it. and yes he DEFINATELY used intimidation and embarassment to get what he wanted from you, he made fun of the outcasts and made ppl feel like shit all the time. he tried to do it to me but i think most ppl there liked me so no one laughed at his stupid ass jokes.
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What do you mean by he "got caught" "messing with" a female client? Was he caught by the administration? Busted "red handed"? Were they having sex or just "playing games"?
This is a very serious matter and needs to be investigated properly. If he was having sex with a client, this is a felony in Georgia. How in God's name is he still working there or ANYWHERE with kids?
Please, anybody who knows about this should provide details so the proper authorities can be notified. A grown man in a therapeutic role having sexual relations with a minor female client is unethical and illegal and needs to be investigated.
This incident smacks of criminal sexual predation.
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i heard from someone at the school that a rumor went around that he was in another relationship with a girl in my peer group.
i wasnt there and i dont know if it was the truth, but at my time at HLA most of the rumors i heard were fact...thats one thing i learned.
oh yah this is pip sorry i forget to sign in..
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He did use intimidation and embarassment to get students to do what he wanted... the term "faggot" comes to mind when i think of him... not directed towards me, but a good friend of mine...
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I have heard some very disturbing information about this man. Can anyone elaborate and provide details of their experience with him?
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bump it up :tup:
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just recently, he supposedly drove a student to the end of wasega road and had sex with her, and they are investigating it now, but this would be the second time he has been caught, he got fired last time but was allowed back after about a year and a half.
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Who's investigating? HLA or the police? In Georgia a counselor having sex with a patient is a felony. This is BAD NEWS.
What kind of facility that supposedly cares for children allows someone to return to employment after a sexual assault? Now it has happened again. I hope the parents SUE THE SHIT OUT OF HLA. That place is FUCKED UP.
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Joe Dirt - check your pm's. Thanks.
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Posted by a physician in another thread...
"My experience with Hidden Lake Academy was also distressing.
In my opinion, and the opinions of the six other physicians in my practice who followed my HLA misadventure with me, HLA is a predator whose prey is the horrified parents of disturbed teens. It is an institution of opportunity, bringing home its bottom line at the expense of the desperate, frazzled families it exploits.
By the time most parents are introduced to HLA, they've already been through a costly and demoralizing gauntlet of police stations, court appearances, counselor visits, psychiatric evaluations...even hospital visits.
To say they are desperate is an understatement. They are trying to keep their families from self-destructing. In most cases, the only option is turning the child out onto the streets: most insurance policies won't cover mental health care, and even if a family is lucky enough to have good coverage, it is limited to short, individual events. Deeply needed inpatient care is rarely an option for most of these families.
So even considering a modality such as a therapeutic boarding school is a true extravagance. Actually sending the student may mean mortgaging a home, selling it, or even bancruptcy.
Enter Hidden Lake and its ilk.
I was asked by the parents of a young teen to evaluate HLA by its Web site. What stood out to me even more than the philosophy that medical therapy was discouraged were the many typographical errors and careless mistakes on nearly every page of the site. While my own writing is not perfect, I am not registered as a boarding school, responsible for the education of children, presumably overflowing with teachers more than capable of proofreading the very materials provided to the public for the purpose of attracting business.
When I brought my concerns to the attention to the school, they were received with, well, less than warm gratitude. My comments to HLA were meant to be constructive. I was gracious and self-effacing in my original letter because the last thing I wanted was to offend the school. Clearly such niceties were a waste of effort.
Given that the parents are expected to pay upwards of seven thousand dollars per month for the privilege of sending their child to a therapeutic boarding school, I actually expected a minimum of civility. None was evident.
My credentials were questioned?this from an institution whose methods are questionable, at best, from a medical (and psychiatric, I might add) point of view.
Fast forward a few months...and imagine how surprised I was to come across the story of the parent in the previous posts. Am I shocked HLA will not send the child's transcripts? Nope. They demonstrated their pettiness, immaturity, and curious vindictiveness to me, a peer and potential referral base a long time ago. Was I surprised that personal belongings, including necessary daily medications, were sent COD?by ground? Actually, yes.
Not only did that shock me, it caused me to pick up the phone and discuss this gross mismanagement of a patient's medications with a malpractice attorney, who recommends HLA check to be sure their insurance premiums are paid.
To the parent: my suggestion is that you alert your attorney to your experience. Gather all proof of your allegations, including the boxes the personal effects were sent in, the COD receipt(s), the condition of any damaged items, a list of missing items, if any, and proof of payments made to HLA. Regardless of any contract signed (as a previous Anonymous poster cryptically stated), a minimum level of responsibility to the patient's health is required by ANY institution. That minimum includes making reasonable arrangements for the patient to have access to their medications. COD shipping by ground is not, by any standard, "reasonable."
So guess what, parent? You may be getting a sizeable percentage of the "investment" HLA coerced you to pay them right back into your pocket.
I'll be cheering for you from this sideline."
UNBIASED OUTSIDE OPINION BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SAYS HLA IS "PREDATOR" VICTIMIZING PARENTS AND CHILDREN. WAKE UP, PEOPLE. :skull:
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On 2005-11-09 13:21:00, aftenthurston wrote:
"I definently heard a lot about him... but I never really put my nose where it didn't belong, unless there was some reason, and he didn't really concern me... who knows...
Staff did engage in relationships with students on occasions though, and that is where I will leave it.
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I wonder if Kathleen can explain this statement from an obvious supporter of HLA. Why would someone with an interest in making HLA look good and who has fought hard to protect HLA's reputation openly admit that there were sexual relationships between staff and patients?
Kathleen, can you tell us why Danny was fired? Can you tell us why he was rehired amonst allegations of inapproprite sexual contact with patients?
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Why does nobody answer the questions?
HLA employees are willing to talk about any tangential topic other than these important ones.
Why won't anyone answer the questions about Mr. Pervert, uh, Pervel?
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How can you expect them to be willing to answer those questions. Youre obviously lying. Such an event never happened, after all Dolores would know if it did. She lived down the hill away from the campus like five years ago and she was never on campus, so if she never heard about it, it never happened.
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On 2006-01-03 07:26:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"How can you expect them to be willing to answer those questions. Youre obviously lying. Such an event never happened, after all Dolores would know if it did. She lived down the hill away from the campus like five years ago and she was never on campus, so if she never heard about it, it never happened. "
Funny. But I did get a PM from a young lady who said this guy came on to her and her three roommates and he was reportedly fired for having sexual relations with a patient and after the girl left the treatment center he was rehired and given a position with more authority, i.e. a promotion.
In Georgia it is a felony for a mental health professional to have sexual relations with a patient. The girl's parents have notified authorities.
Parents should carefully check the background and employment history of the people they send their kids to.
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On 2006-01-03 07:26:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"How can you expect them to be willing to answer those questions. Youre obviously lying. Such an event never happened, after all Dolores would know if it did. She lived down the hill away from the campus like five years ago and she was never on campus, so if she never heard about it, it never happened. "
It did happen Mister Bruce.
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I know, I was mocking the naysayers. Namley Dolores Gray who had no knowledge of anything that ever happened on campus yet swears she was privy to all events.
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On 2006-01-03 12:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-01-03 07:26:00, RobertBruce wrote:
"How can you expect them to be willing to answer those questions. Youre obviously lying. Such an event never happened, after all Dolores would know if it did. She lived down the hill away from the campus like five years ago and she was never on campus, so if she never heard about it, it never happened. "
It did happen Mister Bruce."
can you please give some more details on these events? what else do you know about it?
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How can this man possibly still be employed after having sex with an underage child in his care?
Who is overseeing this place? Apparently nobody cares enough about children and their welfare either at the facility or within the community.
This man was fired for having sex with a child in his care (a felony offense in Georgia) and was rehired as soon as the girl left. What kind of sick and twisted place is this?
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If this had actually happened what you stated, then he would have been arrested. It appears that possibly the charges are unfounded, or the issue was not as serious as it has been assumed. I think the parties actually involved need to come on here and state the truth, not the rumor of this issue.
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On 2006-01-09 09:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If this had actually happened what you stated, then he would have been arrested. It appears that possibly the charges are unfounded, or the issue was not as serious as it has been assumed. I think the parties actually involved need to come on here and state the truth, not the rumor of this issue."
He wouldn't be arrested unless the crime was reported and the girl was willing to testify. She declined to press charges because she did not want to relive a horrific experience, which is a typical response from victims of sexual assault, by the way.
Nobody has ever disputed that he had sex with a client, that he was fired or that he was subsequently rehired after the girl's departure.
Several clients who were enrolled contemporaneously verify the first-hand account of the girl and stated that he tried similar things with them. And it bears repeating that this account of the events has never been refuted.
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On 2006-01-09 09:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If this had actually happened what you stated, then he would have been arrested. It appears that possibly the charges are unfounded, or the issue was not as serious as it has been assumed. I think the parties actually involved need to come on here and state the truth, not the rumor of this issue."
Once more, this is Suzanne Gray or "SHH," as she calls herself here sometimes. Please read my response to your post in the TTI forum and behave yourself accordingly.
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posted by Chynna on an HLA board on myspace.com
Danny Pervel was one of the coolest staff there and one of the only ones who really cared, and he hooked up with Loren, which is really fucking funny, so take that gay ass picture off...
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On 2006-01-11 15:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"posted by Chynna on an HLA board on myspace.com
Danny Pervel was one of the coolest staff there and one of the only ones who really cared, and he hooked up with Loren, which is really fucking funny, so take that gay ass picture off..."
Staff "hooking up" with minor patients. Now THAT'S a ringing endorsement. Don't forget he still works there. He could hook up with your daughter next.
What parent would take the chance of sending their daughter to a place where this happens, everyone knows about it and no disciplinary action is taken against the employee? What does that tell you about the oversight of employees?
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What's amazing is this post regarding Danny Pervel is back from last November and Danny Pervel is still at HLA.
I hope someone will contact Kit Wallace about him.
kwwallace@dhr.state.ga.us
706.864.1839
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I helped investigate the rumors about him. I talked to MANY students about this, and EVERY ONE of them ended up saying that they had "heard" that it happened, but didn't know for sure. They couldn't even say that they heard it from the girl that this supposedly happened to. The girl never said that it happened. AND, several kids gave a specific day that this supposedly happened, and Danny wasn't even working that day.
With that being said, I am not saying that this didn't happen. I am just saying that when it was investigated, there were WAY too many holes in the kids stories for anything to stick.
If it did happen he should be in jail.
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I helped investigate the rumors about him. I talked to MANY students about this, and EVERY ONE of them ended up saying that they had "heard" that it happened, but didn't know for sure. They couldn't even say that they heard it from the girl that this supposedly happened to. The girl never said that it happened. AND, several kids gave a specific day that this supposedly happened, and Danny wasn't even working that day.
With that being said, I am not saying that this didn't happen. I am just saying that when it was investigated, there were WAY too many holes in the kids stories for anything to stick.
If it did happen he should be in jail.
So was he fired and re-hired at a later date? Why was he fired?
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This one I am not sure about. I can only tell you what I heard.
I heard that he was suspended or fired (not sure which) because he just didn't show up to work a few times, and did not call in. Again, this is just what I heard.
Why they rehired him after that, I don't know.
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I helped investigate the rumors about him. I talked to MANY students about this, and EVERY ONE of them ended up saying that they had "heard" that it happened, but didn't know for sure. They couldn't even say that they heard it from the girl that this supposedly happened to. The girl never said that it happened. AND, several kids gave a specific day that this supposedly happened, and Danny wasn't even working that day.
With that being said, I am not saying that this didn't happen. I am just saying that when it was investigated, there were WAY too many holes in the kids stories for anything to stick.
If it did happen he should be in jail.
And what is your position within HLA that allowed you to conduct this investigation.
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Get DJ, or whoever, to run my IP address. He would be able to figure it out.
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Tracing your IP address does not reveal your identity- only your location and allowing us to see any other user names youve posted under on here.
Why not simply reveal your position there?
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I helped investigate the rumors about him. I talked to MANY students about this, and EVERY ONE of them ended up saying that they had "heard" that it happened, but didn't know for sure. They couldn't even say that they heard it from the girl that this supposedly happened to. The girl never said that it happened. AND, several kids gave a specific day that this supposedly happened, and Danny wasn't even working that day.
With that being said, I am not saying that this didn't happen. I am just saying that when it was investigated, there were WAY too many holes in the kids stories for anything to stick.
If it did happen he should be in jail.
So, what did the police say when they were called to investigate?
That's the real question here.
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danny prevale has threatened to hit kids and he broke a kids arm in march 2006 during a football game by pushing a kid over in two hand touch football becuase the kid had been making fun of him, the kids name is sean reposa who is still at hla. nothing ever came of this. and probably never will like everything mentioned on this board.
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Nice....Sounds like a real cocksucker.
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On 2006-01-11 15:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"posted by Chynna on an HLA board on myspace.com
Danny Pervel was one of the coolest staff there and one of the only ones who really cared, and he hooked up with Loren, which is really fucking funny, so take that gay ass picture off..."
Staff "hooking up" with minor patients. Now THAT'S a ringing endorsement. Don't forget he still works there. He could hook up with your daughter next.
What parent would take the chance of sending their daughter to a place where this happens, everyone knows about it and no disciplinary action is taken against the employee? What does that tell you about the oversight of employees?
Yeah, That was posted by me. Loren was practically an adult and it wasn't something that should have happened but they kissed, they didn't have sex. Not that that's okay either, but before his promotion, before he left the first time, danny wasn't a self-centered dick. When he came back he probably acted so tough so he wouldn't get close to students.
And leave my name out of shit if i'm not there. I may have posted that, but I had nothing to do with this conversation until now.
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On 2006-01-11 15:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"posted by Chynna on an HLA board on myspace.com
Danny Pervel was one of the coolest staff there and one of the only ones who really cared, and he hooked up with Loren, which is really fucking funny, so take that gay ass picture off..."
Staff "hooking up" with minor patients. Now THAT'S a ringing endorsement. Don't forget he still works there. He could hook up with your daughter next.
What parent would take the chance of sending their daughter to a place where this happens, everyone knows about it and no disciplinary action is taken against the employee? What does that tell you about the oversight of employees?
Yeah, That was posted by me. Loren was practically an adult and it wasn't something that should have happened but they kissed, they didn't have sex. Not that that's okay either, but before his promotion, before he left the first time, danny wasn't a self-centered dick. When he came back he probably acted so tough so he wouldn't get close to students.
And leave my name out of shit if i'm not there. I may have posted that, but I had nothing to do with this conversation until now.
It doesn't matter if Loren was "practically an adult" - she wasn't an adult, she was a MINOR who was entrusted into the care of HLA. HLA's staff should NEVER have crossed that line - Period. HLA staff should be held to the highest possible professional and ethical standards and SEVERLY punished for not upholding those standards.
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you're right, it shouldn't have. i just wanted to clear up that i don't think it's really funny and i shouldn't have said that. it's just when i was first at hla, danny pervel was one of the very few staff that cared about what happened to us and he never acted sexual or intimidating towards me, i can't speak for others. i was always on restrictions, so he always had to deal with me. but then after he came back and got promoted he became self-centered and emotionless. so i'm not on his side, i never really was, it just sucks that he had to turn into such a jerk.
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I suppose in the exhaustive interviews of HLA kids about Pervel, they must have missed the only one with the information?
In any case, this should not have been a "personnel matter." It should have been a CRIMINAL matter where the police did the interrogation (of the staff member) and found if child rape occurred.
It's just more evidence of HLA's trying to hide its dirty laundry. One example in a long, long list...
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During my recent tenure that story was known by all on campus but like most here I have no facts.
He was a complete jerk and it seemed extremely possible knowing his character.
I don't know why he would be re-hired and promoted given such behavior.
He is gone despite a couple of posts that indicated that he is still there. He was working in Atlanta as of late last year.
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/FacultyStaff.aspx (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/FacultyStaff.aspx)
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danny was a nice guy. if you respected him, he respected you.
its interesting because the same kids that were assholes to him are the same ones that complain about him being an asshole.
i sincerely apologize for posting something positive about hla on y'alls little salvation from big bad bucci, but i just felt that it had to be said.
now, for the deluge of personal attacks...
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danny was completley inappropiate. during restrrictions pt several girls would hold their breasts while doing jumping jacks and he would tell us to do them right. then he would say something like "you like it like that" while him and vince would laugh. he would constantly make sly sexual suggestions, but in such a way that if it came back to him he wouldn't get in trouble. especially during pt he was sexual. if someone got sent to restrictions, a girl, and didnt have a proper bra on (like a sports bra) they would hold themselves while doing jumping jacks because of all the guys, nd danny would tell us to take them off, and he would just look at the girls. he made me uncomftorable being with him, and he was just dirty. i also heard he hooked up with jen wills, but who hasnt.