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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 21, 2005, 02:49:00 PM
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I have recently been able to recall that I was physically raped in Straight Inc.
I have been speaking to attorneys for the last few months and I have done a lot of research on Straight.
But the problem is that no attorney wants to touch this case as a result of the insurmountable odds. It is harder to prove that I did not 'remember' that I was physically molested than it would be to suddenly be in pain for a medical spoon that a dr. left in me during an operation. This is purely more of a psychological thing.
And although I am completely willing and able to go under the microscope to see about any scarring that this male might have done to me and whether or not there is cause to move against my rapist, we all know the pitfalls I have these last few weeks seen when it comes to getting any attorney to file the fucking case.
I will not PM you or private mail you. If you want to say something here please do so.
I do not have any money to file a rape suit, I was sixteen when it happend and I was really worked over when he did it, or anything like that and could only get an attorney who is willing to work on a contingency basis.
I know I now have about four years remaining to catch the sonabitches who did this to me, but I am not sure that any attorney will get it unless something comes to light. I have already spent the last few months tryng to find one and they all keep widdling away at my statutes and coming back with things like, 'there is noone to sue, you have exceeded what statutes we see are applicable, or this is just not something we can do'.
I have followed others advice and spoken to many attorneys but they keep turning me out or not returning communication. I don't really have anyone I could trust on this issue.
Was there sexual penetration? Yes. Was I held against my will and raped? Yes. Did I try to speak out at that time agaist my attacker? Yes I did. Did anyone hear me at that time? No, noone would and I tried to call the police and they wouldn't let me. I tried to run and I got busted to the floor.
Ultimately I can speak out about it now that I know. For the first few months I was completely depressed. But even though I know there will likely never ever be an attorney to file some kind of crime case for me, the harder part for me to see right now is that I have to live with this for the rest of my life and I will never be able to get any kind of revenge or anything of the kind. The real sad and factual truth is that I will just eventually and likely have to come to 'terms' with this shit and live it down. Or not.
But I do wish I could find an attorney who would recognize this for what it is. I also heard that there are others who had gotten sexually assaulted while in Straight. I believe all of it. Those bastards were so mean to me and that's aside from the raping that happened several times.
Isn't there anyone who already knows of Straight Inc. and would recognize this for what it is and just say, 'hey, I'll take you to court Straight!'
I know the man's name who did this but I will not say it here. I am looking for attorneys and I don't like to play games.
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I'm not sure if Phil Elberg would be intersted in this, but its worth a try.
The statutes varu from state to state bit I know a few that start the clock running from the time the memory surfaces.
Good luck and I'm really sorry.
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My sympathies to you. Good luck, I hope the bastards pay.
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Yeah, thank you. The support is appreciated. I'm tough as nails when it comes to hardship in my life ya know.
The screwed up and halfway nice thing about knowing finally that the law was broken against me is that I know now what is 'wrong' with me and why I did some of the things I have done since that time. You understand.
Who is Phil Elberg and what does he do? I actually tried to contact him but I heard he no longer does any kind of rape cases or child forbearance type case/issues. I was in Straight in Pinellas Park in the beginning of the 1980s and I think there were probably other Straight people who got rapes and beaten. I saw some of them getting beaten.
If I were an attorney I would sue the hell out of the bastards and not worry about the statuts.
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As if Straight wasnt bad enough....my god, you've been through hell! Sorry about your experience. I fully support your effort to get some justice.
What about checking with an attorney who has experience with sexual abuse/priests cases? I believe repressed memories are common in those cases and think that some have been able to sue years after the statute of limitations expires.
Keep checking. Hope you find an attorney who can help you. ::rainbow::
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I know I now have about four years remaining to catch the sonabitches who did this to me, but I am not sure that any attorney will get it unless something comes to light. I have already spent the last few months tryng to find one and they all keep widdling away at my statutes and coming back with things like, 'there is noone to sue, you have exceeded what statutes we see are applicable, or this is just not something we can do'.
First of all, I really feel for you if you're living with this shit.
However - I'm confused by what you said about having four years remaining to do anything.
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I don't know if I'm living with it all that well.
What I meant by four years is that I saw that someone had posted that I have four years from the time I discovered the incident had happened. I began remembering what happened in Straight only about 6 months ago. The really shitter about this is I don't think I remember everything. I was on meds back in Straight, so they probly did some other shit to me I don't know about yet.
As I keep talkin and branching out and discovering more stuff that happened to other people I am remembering more. I am working to better myself all the time so I am trying to remember what I can as I am able without breaking myself into any fits that would cause any further harm to me. It's not easy.
But it would help me get some kinder thoughts about life in general if I know I can get some court set up that would look int this rape for me. Noone wants to and I'm tired of making long introductions to attorneys. The police now have my report on file, the bastards took forever to get back to me.
I just really don't honestly think is anyone out there who is going to really lookinto this. And that's alright. I'll keep looking and asking. Hell, the other day I asked a beat cop if he knows how I can about getting some revenge. He didn't have much to say about it, but I felt a little better after having asked.
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Oh, now THIS sounds like some real bullshit here. I really doubt you were sexually penetrated/raped in Straight chica. At best maybe your privacy was taken away which is humiliatin, but you ARE exxagerating a bit MUCH here!!!
I really don't mean to sound insensitive here, but its like that post graduate/staff member -Samantha Monroe ... that old whore was on national television and she has never once coughed up the name of her alleged rapist attackers. You would think someone would have done something by now. I just really don't buy it at all.
You were raped. Yeah, rite.
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I have to say that I am a bit skeptical as well. My heart goes out to anyone who has been sexually assaulted, but this story here just dosen't feel right.
It is not uncommon in pediatric cases where the victim is very young for them not to fully remember the incident until years later, but you were in your teens correct? And this happened on more than one occasion correct? I know that there is a lot of stuff that I don't remember all that well from my time in the program but I can tell you without a doubt that being raped multiple times is not something that I would ever forget. You said that you were on some kind of medication, but even so, you would have had to have been in a black out stage every time this happened to not remember SOMETHING from one of the times this happened. You go on to say that there is probably more that happened to you while you were there and that you are in the process of trying to remember those things.
What kind of therapist are you seeing?
I would be curious to know what happened that prompted these memories. Was is while you were in therapy?
I'm not trying to be insensitive here. I am only saying that there is much about your post that makes me think this story is not entirely true. Have you considered the thought that the reason you may be having difficulty finding a attorney is that they may have questions of their own. Rape is a very serious charge and you need to have more than " I have happened to remember being raped multiple times 20 years ago" to have an attorney take your case, regardless of who it is against.
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Lawyers do not file criminal charges. CRIMINAL charges are brought by the state/fed government. A complaint would have to be filed and an investigation conducted. Based on the evidence found, the district attorney's office would pursue. They would have to present their case to the grand jury to get a True Bill in order to actually take the case to a jury and have the person arrested.
Now if you are talking about filing a CIVIL suit to obtain damages, good luck. I doubt you will find any lawyer that would waste their timeon this - especially since it sounds like this has gone unreported and there was never any criminal trial, much less a conviction.
So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters. There seems to be something fishy in your story.
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I just really don't honestly think is anyone out there who is going to really lookinto this. And that's alright. I'll keep looking and asking. Hell, the other day I asked a beat cop if he knows how I can about getting some revenge. He didn't have much to say about it, but I felt a little better after having asked."
I dont doubt its possible to forget things like this...however I think you are asking the wrong questions if what you said above is true.
Revenge? Thats just petty. There is no "revenge", and it tells alot about your intentions by using this word. I am here to tell you that revenge will not make it right, it wont change what was taken from you. It only serves as a last attempt at trying to hold onto the pain so you DONT have to learn to heal and deal with it on your own. It wont help you look better on the world if you get someone to champion you. At least not for very long. I suggest you start talking to someone in a therapeutic setting before you go off half cocked to any more lawyers.
If what you say is accurate, you havent even begun to deal with the actual pain of the rape, you are still in a state of shock so to speak.
Revenge or no, lawyer or not, you WILL have to someday be at peace with this. There is nothing and no one out there who will ever acheive that for you except you.
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yeah, but revenge feels good......
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I don't really care what anyone says about it. Sure as hell it sounds fishy, when I woke up one morning and certain memories came flooding back to me I knew what happened then, and the more I spoke about it the more clear things became. It sounds fishy to anyone because I am not able to give ALL of the details and don't trust anyone enough to do that. More or less I guess I am just relating to people here, but I have also read that others were raped while in Straight and now I don't doubt it one bit.
Although I appreciate being asked to defend my position I am not able to do that and doing so does not make what was done to me any less credible - or that I was not able to remember what happened until recently any less truthful.
While I don't really believe this is the place to make peace with the past, I am tryingin other ways. I appreciate to some extent Carmels' posts since she seems to relate to somehow being ostricized or perhaps even being molested in some way I don't know. Eitherways, I thank anyone who has offered words of kindness.
there are questions some have had to me in person and others who have asked on other forums and chat rooms, this is not a political issue. I have more questions than anyone else does. The Senior Staff member who did this to me is likely still alive and that has to account for something. We live in an age of information so he can be found.
And yes, I stated before, I have filed a statement to the police. they have informed me that an investigation is taking place. Other than that there is not alot more I can offer. this might be a spot to find common interest in some small way.
There are other forums I go to that offer live support but nothing helps me more than forgetting now that I know. It takes time to calm myself down sometimes when I think of what happened.
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No, darlin. It sounds fishy to me because, when I hook up w/ ppl I new only a little over two decades ago and they start telling me their memories of events I remember only vaguely, I can never be sure if I actually remember those events myself or if I'm just trying so hard that I'm building a reasonable facsimile.
But I'm not in your head. This is somethig you'll have to sort out. Don't bother trying to prove it to anyone here publicly or look to us to settle the question for you.
If it's really bugging you, I'd look up that staffer, give him a call and see what he has to say about it.
The memory of my own suffering has prevented me from ever shadowing one young soul with the superstitions of the Christian religion.
--Elizabeth Cady-Stanton
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On 2005-10-22 00:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Oh, now THIS sounds like some real bullshit here. I really doubt you were sexually penetrated/raped in Straight chica. At best maybe your privacy was taken away which is humiliatin, but you ARE exxagerating a bit MUCH here!!!
I really don't mean to sound insensitive here, but its like that post graduate/staff member -Samantha Monroe ... that old whore was on national television and she has never once coughed up the name of her alleged rapist attackers. You would think someone would have done something by now. I just really don't buy it at all.
You were raped. Yeah, rite."
Who in the hell are you to judge this poor person?...............you sound like some pro- straight person obviously.....here...have a cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!-ASSWIPE!
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Y'all are fuckheads for weighing in with your "I don't believe you" "this sounds fishy". God damn fuckheads. Sorry to the O.P. who posted, sounds like you have some REAL human support in the way of a decent counselor type. Stick with that, man. I wish I could offer you more assistance, I guess the best bit of advice I heard was look into who is doing the Catholic Church rape cases, but then, there have been well-publicized cases wherein the victims got some justice or some cash, but on the other hand I read a write-up in the LA Times the other day wherein several victims corroborating each other and so on were not able to get justice. But hey, be careful talking to any cop about revenge, right?
Anyway, I think it takes a fuck of a lot of nerve to tell this person you don't believe their story. Who the fuck are you.
As for Carmel's post, I read it twice, it sounds alright. But Carmel, do you think there is nothing to be said for revenge, court justice, and all that? Is it always up to the crime victim to get their own peace? Do you think all this prison sentencing and monetary compensating is outdated and for the birds? I mean, I just really am curious.
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As for Carmel's post, I read it twice, it sounds alright. But Carmel, do you think there is nothing to be said for revenge, court justice, and all that? Is it always up to the crime victim to get their own peace? Do you think all this prison sentencing and monetary compensating is outdated and for the birds? I mean, I just really am curious."
I think that ultimately, yes, it is up to the victim to get their own peace. I will explain....
I am not discounting justice. Revenge is petty to me because there is an emotional element in the acting out of revenge that I feel only makes the person exacting it just like the person they are exacting it from. When the blood is on the floor and all is said and done, whether you sued the pants of someone, or gave them the death penalty....you are still the vicitm of a wrong, just like you were in the beginning. No amount of justice ever changes that fact. And unless you are superhuman and arent going to have any feelings about your victimization, then you are going to have to take that road that leads to healing, albeit much much later in the game than you could have before. I dont thing it is wrong or outdated to pursue justice, just understand what it really is you are getting out of the deal, and thats very rarely full resoultion.
I dont think justice is wrong, I just think when it comes to you and your personal feelings about how you want to live the remainder of your life....well, it is possibly a bit overrated in how its going to help you chose the path to do so. [ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2005-10-22 20:31 ]
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On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters. There seems to be something fishy in your story."
In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.
Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html (http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html)
Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....
Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.
So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.
Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.
I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.
This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.
- former rape survivor
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On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters. There seems to be something fishy in your story."
In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.
Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html (http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html)
Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....
Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.
So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.
Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.
I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.
This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.
- former rape survivor
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Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up.
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On 2005-10-23 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters. There seems to be something fishy in your story."
In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.
Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html (http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html)
Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....
Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.
So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.
Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.
I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.
This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.
- former rape survivor
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Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up."
Actually the statistics that were posted by anon were not gender specific at all if you would "read up" and look at them. Then the anon only stated that rape is a womans worst nightmare. if that anon is speaking from personal experience which she obviously is claiming to be, by signing -rape survivor, then that anon is only speaking from her personal experience. This is not sexism by the way.
As for the original anon poster you are correct, they did not state their gender. I do not see any sexism here, but I do have to agree with the second anon when they say it is sad to see lack of support for any rape survivor. The fact is this: noone was there when this happened to this person, so why are we so quick automatically to not believe this person?...Sounds like to me that you would like to have sexism enter in here but where is it at? I do not see it.Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous
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On 2005-10-23 11:35:00, Deprogrammed wrote:
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On 2005-10-23 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters. There seems to be something fishy in your story."
In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.
Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html (http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html)
Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....
Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.
So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.
Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.
I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.
This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.
- former rape survivor
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Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up."
Actually the statistics that were posted by anon were not gender specific at all if you would "read up" and look at them. Then the anon only stated that rape is a womans worst nightmare. if that anon is speaking from personal experience which she obviously is claiming to be, by signing -rape survivor, then that anon is only speaking from her personal experience. This is not sexism by the way.
As for the original anon poster you are correct, they did not state their gender. I do not see any sexism here, but I do have to agree with the second anon when they say it is sad to see lack of support for any rape survivor. The fact is this: noone was there when this happened to this person, so why are we so quick automatically to not believe this person?...Sounds like to me that you would like to have sexism enter in here but where is it at? I do not see it.Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous
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Furthermore,
The poster never ever stated that women are raped more than men.....If they did show it to me.......If not quit telling everyone else to "read up"....and "read up" yourself!Jails and prisons are the complement of schools; so many less as you have of the latter, so many more you must have of the former
--Horace Mann
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On 2005-10-23 11:38:00, Deprogrammed wrote:
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On 2005-10-23 11:35:00, Deprogrammed wrote:
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On 2005-10-23 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters. There seems to be something fishy in your story."
In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.
Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html (http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html)
Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....
Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.
So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.
Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.
I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.
This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.
- former rape survivor
"
Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up."
Actually the statistics that were posted by anon were not gender specific at all if you would "read up" and look at them. Then the anon only stated that rape is a womans worst nightmare. if that anon is speaking from personal experience which she obviously is claiming to be, by signing -rape survivor, then that anon is only speaking from her personal experience. This is not sexism by the way.
As for the original anon poster you are correct, they did not state their gender. I do not see any sexism here, but I do have to agree with the second anon when they say it is sad to see lack of support for any rape survivor. The fact is this: noone was there when this happened to this person, so why are we so quick automatically to not believe this person?...Sounds like to me that you would like to have sexism enter in here but where is it at? I do not see it.Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous
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Furthermore,
The poster never ever stated that women are raped more than men.....If they did show it to me.......If not quit telling everyone else to "read up"....and "read up" yourself!Jails and prisons are the complement of schools; so many less as you have of the latter, so many more you must have of the former
--Horace Mann
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Alrite, sexist. Since you don't want to read up and assume that I should take my own advice; perhaps you don't want to read up and assume that the 'former rape victim' (lol, does this mean that SHE was somehow raped in a former life or perhaps she is 'no longer raped', former?, or is SHE stating that she is no longer a victim. unclear, but what is clear is that SHE wastes no time in assuming that the original postor is female since more women come forward than men.) didn't post that she thinks the original postor is female by stating this. That person did mention that the staff member was male I think, but never made mention that he/she was any gender. For all you know they might be fucking one big hole. Now I do know from personal experience that more of the guys side had sexual issues than the females reported in my time at Straight. Hell, we were always talking about it. When I was in Straight there were two juvenile boys who were being seduced by a senior staff female. When we found out it was rippin time.
Yeah, since you are unclear as to what rape is on the whole I'll spell it out for you.
It can happen to anyone regardless of sexual gender, duh.
Now that we are all done slandering such a sensitive topic allow me to apologize again if I have offended anyone. You can continue to slander simply b/c I am taking a different approach on this, but I perhaps am not being as sensitive as maybe I should. Its likely due to the fact that I find it hard to believe that someone was raped in Straight in the 80s. Our parents payed good money and nothing bad was done to us. Was It? I mean, I really liked it there all the time. I wish I was still there.
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Here is what you said:
Now that we are all done slandering such a sensitive topic allow me to apologize again if I have offended anyone. You can continue to slander simply b/c I am taking a different approach on this, but I perhaps am not being as sensitive as maybe I should. Its likely due to the fact that I find it hard to believe that someone was raped in Straight in the 80s. Our parents payed good money and nothing bad was done to us. Was It? I mean, I really liked it there all the time. I wish I was still there."
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Here is what I say: I didn't see anyone slandering anyone here but you.......If you loved straight then you must like abuse...and that is sad for you.....There have been plenty of people that were sexually assaulted in straight male and female, this is turth whether you believe it or not. Noone can convince you, that is fine, but you have no right to judge other peoples woes period.
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the only bloke judging was you ms. sensitive., but as YOU said earlier, only women get raped. It was me who mentioned that males get raped. No, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you post.
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Its likely due to the fact that I find it hard to believe that someone was raped in Straight in the 80s. Our parents payed good money and nothing bad was done to us. Was It? I mean, I really liked it there all the time. I wish I was still there."
Hey other anon (this is anon #3{at least....}), I think, no, I'm pretty sure, no, I'm definitely sure this is sarcasm. It would be funny, too, if it wasn't so sad.
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On 2005-10-23 21:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the only bloke judging was you ms. sensitive., but as YOU said earlier, only women get raped. It was me who mentioned that males get raped. No, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you post."
Dear Anon,
Have ye ever been raped?If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.
--Plato
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On 2005-10-24 19:07:00, Deprogrammed wrote:
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On 2005-10-23 21:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the only bloke judging was you ms. sensitive., but as YOU said earlier, only women get raped. It was me who mentioned that males get raped. No, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you post."
Dear Anon,
Have ye ever been raped?If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.
--Plato
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nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole.
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I wonder if I had told you I was a male and that the staff member who raped me was male if you would suddenly think different of the situation. Because I am male, and it happened at the main Straight in the 1980s. I know the guy's name who did this to me and I know what he looks like.
Now don't you feel a little less sensitive about the issue?
Fuck you for assuming I was a female you fucking piece of shit.
Women don't respond to revenge the way men do. That word does not have the same meaning to the different sexes if for no other reason than women just don't have the testerone or the physical/chemical makeup that men do who need to respond physically toward a situation. Doesn't matter what you slander it or call it, it's true in many different ways that I don't have time to explain.
So, it makes it harder for me when my body says, 'go and hurt that man's family a whole lot', than it might for you.
That is not to say that your advice was not somehow useful, but I doubt it will be filled with the same exact sincerity now that you know my fucking gender. "Oh, well, he's male, he's tougher - he'll just get over it and move on". Right? If I were female then your advice would apply since I would be a sensitive minority who needs counseling. Thank you kindly for your racism.
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On 2005-10-24 23:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole."
And you were there to confirm that this did not happen? Crawl back under that rock you came from.
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On 2005-10-25 11:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-24 23:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole."
And you were there to confirm that this did not happen? Crawl back under that rock you came from."
you were there to confirm it did? you first, I'll hold the rock up for you there, slimeshell.
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Oh FFS that was so fucking lame! :roll:
Please...get a fucking life animals or whoever the fuck you are. Please...
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On 2005-10-25 20:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
you were there to confirm it did? you first, I'll hold the rock up for you there, slimeshell."
There usually aren't any witnesses to a rape. The rapist doesn't want to be seen. You catch on quick. :roll:
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Exactly, that's what I'm saying. What a stupid comment. LAME, LAME, LAME....
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On 2005-10-26 07:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-25 20:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
you were there to confirm it did? you first, I'll hold the rock up for you there, slimeshell."
There usually aren't any witnesses to a rape. The rapist doesn't want to be seen. You catch on quick. :roll: "
yep, you are LAME. I agree.
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On 2005-10-25 11:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-24 23:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole."
And you were there to confirm that this did not happen? Crawl back under that rock you came from."
I don't know....I think this last quoter was a bit more lame with smoking under rocks and raping teenagers and all, asking others if they'd seen it and shit. nasty mofo.
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You're fucking retarded, asshole. Or should I say fucking the retarded? Same difference to you I guess.. :lol:
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On 2005-10-28 04:53:00, Str8survivorVA wrote:
"Anon (10/25), Please accept my apology for my sexism. Having been a victim of this crime, I admit I have developed certain viewpoints/biases that are not necessarily correct. Rape is a violent crime. Period. I empathise with anyone who is a victim of such a horrible act. Again, I apologize. But racism? Huh? What does this have to do with race?"
I agree! Rape whether it happens to a male or female is a horrible soul stealing kind of thing.
-DPCreationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author
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my head got put through a wall.
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he he
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You have two problems with any potential
criminal case, which you, somehow, expect
a prosecutor to bring. One is the, very
obvious, evidentiary deficit. The second
is the legal standing deficit, conferred
by the statute of limitations onto the
alleged rapist. This latter may be,
paradoxically, more easily overcome than
the former. But, you MAY have to resort
to some unethical behaviour, if not,
outright law breaking, in order to
nullify the immunity, which the SoL
confers on him.
I am, in NO way, advocating any of the
following:
If a person breaks a law, so as to cover
up the exposure of his prior crime, even
though his legal culpability for that
crime had expired, the original crime CAN
be grandfathered into an ongoing criminal
conspriracy case. Both the prosecutor and
the judge must sign off on this
interpretation of the conspiracy laws, but
cases adjudicated under this tactic have
been upheld. With a decades old rape case,
the prosecutor will make it worth the
defendant's while to plead out.
You might track this person down, confront
him, and, perhaps, suggest that you will be
taking an apartment near him, so as to keep
an eye on him. If he offers you something
of value to go away or remain silent, ie.
a bribe, a jury COULD infer, by this act,
a 'consciousness of guilt', arising from
out of the original crime. With that and
your testimony, a jury MAY be swayed to
convict. But, most prosecutors will avoid
such a contrived strategy, like the plague.
The last resort is blackmail, and it would
be, ultimately, self-refuting. If you
suggest to him that 'I'll not go forward
with the rape accusation against you, if
you give me X amount of money' Or, even
'How can we make this go away?' He could
very easily convince a jury that by paying
you off, he merely wanted to get rid of an
annoyance, by saying something like, "I
deeply regret my conduct and association
with Straight INC. But every act I performed
was under the strict orders of the Straight
officials. It was the tenor and the idiocy
of those times, which had inspired these
abuses. I am remorseful for breaking heads,
pinning children down, and watching as others
did those things, but I NEVER raped this girl.
When she arrived, at my apartment and out of
the blue, mentioning Straight INC, the
nightmares, which I thought I'd banished,
returned. We believed, decades ago, that we
were fighting a WAR, not a war of our own
making, but a war, which the vast bulk of
the population rabidly supported and still
supports. I am very sorry for this women's
sufferring, brought on, not by me, but by
the abusive practices of Straight. Yet how,
logically, can her extorting money from me
bring her any closure and justice? She was
the one who initiated the criminal act! She
did so for the money." Almost certainly,
you'll be the one who ends up in prison.