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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 05, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
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Dr Phil is an asshole.
That being said,do you think Dr Phil would be a good TV show to "expose" Straightlike programs?
Has anybody here told Dr Phil about Straightlike programs?
Are there any old threads here that deal with this subject?
I suggest that IF there is another TV talk show with Straightlike Program Victims as guests,that NONE of the "famous" survivors be allowed to participate.
(I want Dr Phil to EXPOSE the crimes at the Straightlike programs rather than tell survivors how to "cope" with being a victim.)
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This is an intertesting idea.
Dr. Phil endorses some abusive rehab. I'm sorry, but I forget the name of it. He has recommended that kids from his show be sent there.
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On 2005-10-05 07:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This is an intertesting idea.
Dr. Phil endorses some abusive rehab. I'm sorry, but I forget the name of it. He has recommended that kids from his show be sent there."
Provos canyon. is his preference
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YES! That was it.
Thanks, whoever you are. :smile:
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Yes he has been contacted and yes he is an asshole and he has ignored many emails about abusive programs.
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On 2005-10-05 06:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr Phil is an asshole.
That being said,do you think Dr Phil would be a good TV show to "expose" Straightlike programs?
Has anybody here told Dr Phil about Straightlike programs?
Are there any old threads here that deal with this subject?
I suggest that IF there is another TV talk show with Straightlike Program Victims as guests,that NONE of the "famous" survivors be allowed to participate.
(I want Dr Phil to EXPOSE the crimes at the Straightlike programs rather than tell survivors how to "cope" with being a victim.)"
Dr. Phil is a pro-program figurehead. :roll: If we had been born in Constantinople, then most of us would have said: "There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet." If our parents had lived on the banks of the Ganges, we would have been worshipers of Siva, longing for the heaven of Nirvana.
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Dr. Pill is an ugly old fart. What is wrong with all those women who lust after him right in his audience? "Dr. Pill, pick me! Sodomize my psyche, it makes me sooo horny for you!"
Montel, now there's a guy who stayed in shape. Plus he smokes marijuana. This isn't even a contest.
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Wouldn't it be interesting to find out who Dr.Phil really is. It would not suprise me if he was involved with a Seed like program from early on or were involved with the Semblers in some way.
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On 2005-10-05 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr. Pill is an ugly old fart. What is wrong with all those women who lust after him right in his audience? "Dr. Pill, pick me! Sodomize my psyche, it makes me sooo horny for you!"
That will be on the new fall season of "Unbelievably Desperate Housewives" :lol:
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On 2005-10-05 08:27:00, 001010 wrote:
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On 2005-10-05 06:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr Phil is an asshole.
That being said,do you think Dr Phil would be a good TV show to "expose" Straightlike programs?
Has anybody here told Dr Phil about Straightlike programs?
Are there any old threads here that deal with this subject?
I suggest that IF there is another TV talk show with Straightlike Program Victims as guests,that NONE of the "famous" survivors be allowed to participate.
(I want Dr Phil to EXPOSE the crimes at the Straightlike programs rather than tell survivors how to "cope" with being a victim.)"
Dr. Phil is a pro-program figurehead. :roll: If we had been born in Constantinople, then most of us would have said: "There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet." If our parents had lived on the banks of the Ganges, we would have been worshipers of Siva, longing for the heaven of Nirvana.
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He sent a child to Provo Canyon School and SUWS. Talk about making a deal with the Devil.Forgiveness is divine. Forgetfulness is just a mental dysfunction.
--Antigen
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The days I've watched a family in trouble on Dr.Phil allow him to send their child away to a place like Provo Canyon, I've cried for them. I am so scared for that kid and their family. I wish there was a way to expose him. I can't understand how he has this TV show and is blatenly tuning out all the abuse that child may suffer at his own direction. Dr.Phil has to know what goes on in those places, but pretends to not know. I just don't understand. Maybe he gets a payment for every child he sends?
He has made a new cult using TV. People watch him and follow him like they are intranced by him. Whoever is in charge of their forums removes any negitive posts with in minutes, Sounds like covering up the truth to me. And to have a staff who watches the forums constantly sounds like he knows people are posting the truth and is in a hurry to destroy the evidence.
Montel always seemed ok to me, He wasn't afraid of the truth and to my knowledge ever covered it up to protect his assets. He seems/seemed real to me.
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On 2005-10-05 08:51:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:
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On 2005-10-05 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr. Pill is an ugly old fart. What is wrong with all those women who lust after him right in his audience? "Dr. Pill, pick me! Sodomize my psyche, it makes me sooo horny for you!"
That will be on the new fall season of "Unbelievably Desperate Housewives" :lol:"
Yeah, he should rename his show that. I might watch it.
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Nihilanthic, do drop in more often. I can't stand the Teen Help forum anymore, but I do get a rush from you and your posts.
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On 2005-10-05 09:35:00, Anonymous wrote:
Montel always seemed ok to me, He wasn't afraid of the truth and to my knowledge ever covered it up to protect his assets. He seems/seemed real to me.
Ya' gotta love a Marine, eh? Seriously. Every last one I know is some brand of crazy. But I can't think of a single Marine I've gotten to know and who hasn't won my respect.If there is a God, he is a malign thug.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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On 2005-10-05 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr. Pill is an ugly old fart. What is wrong with all those women who lust after him right in his audience? "Dr. Pill, pick me! Sodomize my psyche, it makes me sooo horny for you!"
Montel, now there's a guy who stayed in shape. Plus he smokes marijuana. This isn't even a contest."
I concur. Montel seems like a decent guy, unlike Dr. Phil, who is merely a pompous asshole.
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It may sound silly, but....everyone should wathc the "E True Hollywood Story" on Dr. Phil. It gave me alot of insight into his background, and much of it was very conducive to program-like involvements. He was a salesman of sorts, the kind you would have found heading up every pyramid marketing gig. He also was some sort of weightlifting trainer for some time, owned gyms and so forth. He is the gold plated version of the British QVC guy. Its these kinds of people that the program is sorry they missed.
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On 2005-10-05 10:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-05 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Dr. Pill is an ugly old fart. What is wrong with all those women who lust after him right in his audience? "Dr. Pill, pick me! Sodomize my psyche, it makes me sooo horny for you!"
Montel, now there's a guy who stayed in shape. Plus he smokes marijuana. This isn't even a contest."
I concur. Montel seems like a decent guy, unlike Dr. Phil, who is merely a pompous asshole.
montel is my pick....
in 1998, i worked for this company that picked people to be on a fake jury for practice trials....anyways, Dr. Phil was acting as the prosecuting attorney.....
i had no idea he was a life strategist until i saw him on Oprah...
he was quite intimidating
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Doctor Phil is a quack. As if Oprah and her condescending nature weren't bad enough... We have this bald redneck yelling at people and disguising it as "therapy". The people who are guests on his show need a real shrink, which takes time and money, not some quick fix from some TV quack. I see people bitch about "trashy talk shows", but at least on Springer, you know you're being demeaned upfront. And who is this cretin to tell anyone to lose weight? He has a gut! Physician, heal thyself.
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Thought I'd add:
Dr.Phil said at the end of his show today if ANYONE has something to discuss or debate on his show to post on his forums. Wonder if we could make a collective effort to encourage him to address his stance on Abuse and torture in programs he sends children to. and how many of those programs are like Straight and even worse. What is his view on Thought Reform? anyone know or heard him speak of it?
I know people have posted before, but we could quickly turn it into a hot topic on his forum, so people and especialy parents would see it. How fast are his staff at removing those posts? And if they remove them isn't there a freedom of speech and inquirary type place that could be contacted? If he is covering up possilbe abuse, someone needs to be notified.
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This is an intriguing idea. Everyone think of one thing to say on that forum. Maybe think about it this weekend. And then, someone can put in a link to the forum, and we can all easily go over there and post something.
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On 2005-10-07 14:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Thought I'd add:
Dr.Phil said at the end of his show today if ANYONE has something to discuss or debate on his show to post on his forums. Wonder if we could make a collective effort to encourage him to address his stance on Abuse and torture in programs he sends children to. and how many of those programs are like Straight and even worse. What is his view on Thought Reform? anyone know or heard him speak of it?
I am not Brian Dobbs.
I am the person who made this post and started this thread.
WHY didnt one of YOU PEOPLE come up with this Dr Phil question before?
Dr Phil is an asshole and he will ignor our emails.
There are LOTS of people who hate Dr Phil more than us.
I know people have posted before, but we could quickly turn it into a hot topic on his forum, so people and especialy parents would see it. How fast are his staff at removing those posts? And if they remove them isn't there a freedom of speech and inquirary type place that could be contacted? If he is covering up possilbe abuse, someone needs to be notified.
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The posts would have to be fast and close together, so as to get them on there before its deleted. Maybe even type something up on notepad to copy/paste over. I think if enough of us demanded answers, They'd have to take it seriously.
It's scarey we have a popular TV personality telling the wolrd it's ok to send your children to abusive thought reforming institutes and "schools" This is a very dangerous scenerio playing out on Dr.Phil. He is setting a dreadful standard that I haven't seen so directly in the public eye since the 80's.
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Hey! don't put my posts in the same big box as the ~mad persons ! That stuff in the middle isn't from the same poster as the top and bottom !
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And BTW .. if you actually read the forums, plenty of people have brought up the Dr.Phil thing.
Sincerly, Top and bottom poster :razz:
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On 2005-10-07 17:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
"The posts would have to be fast and close together, so as to get them on there before its deleted. Maybe even type something up on notepad to copy/paste over. I think if enough of us demanded answers, They'd have to take it seriously.
It's scarey we have a popular TV personality telling the wolrd it's ok to send your children to abusive thought reforming institutes and "schools" This is a very dangerous scenerio playing out on Dr.Phil. He is setting a dreadful standard that I haven't seen so directly in the public eye since the 80's."
COME ON!
All those TV guys like to march out the drill sergeants from the boot camps and such.
Dr Phil is REAL CREEPY and more dangerous than the others though.
Most of the people In Korea I know are Chinese Christian church members living in Korea and they receive a kind of daily Korean language christian newspaper,and on the back page is a photo of Dr Phil hawking his books in Korean language.
Korea has SOOOOOOO many christian churches its astonishing!
This entire place is filled with christian churches.The Koreans are brainwashed by TOO MANY YEARS of American military occupation.
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BbUuMmPp...
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On 2005-10-07 17:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey! don't put my posts in the same big box as the ~mad persons ! That stuff in the middle isn't from the same poster as the top and bottom !"
Sorry.My bad.
Im not Brian Dobbs,but I like his crowbar ideas,if only he would act on them!
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On 2005-10-10 22:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-07 17:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hey! don't put my posts in the same big box as the ~mad persons ! That stuff in the middle isn't from the same poster as the top and bottom !"
Sorry.My bad.
Im not Brian Dobbs,but I like his crowbar ideas,if only he would act on them!"
riiiite.
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Wow...I was hoping to gain some intelligent insight at this site regarding Straight, Inc. but... It seems that you have turned this into a pro-illegal drug forum! I have not seen one post providing any documented abuse...a bunch of anonymous druggies complaining about their lost (druggie) days. No wonder your parent's were desperate for some, any program to reach you!! No wonder they were watching you in the bathroom! I wouldn't even let you in my home! All this site has done is document how a program like Straight, Inc., (flawed that it may have been) flourished. Sounds like most of you still won't take any accountability but you wish everyone else would. Call it DENIAL!!
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On 2005-10-13 07:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Wow...I was hoping to gain some intelligent insight at this site regarding Straight, Inc. but... It seems that you have turned this into a pro-illegal drug forum! I have not seen one post providing any documented abuse...a bunch of anonymous druggies complaining about their lost (druggie) days. No wonder your parent's were desperate for some, any program to reach you!! No wonder they were watching you in the bathroom! I wouldn't even let you in my home! All this site has done is document how a program like Straight, Inc., (flawed that it may have been) flourished. Sounds like most of you still won't take any accountability but you wish everyone else would. Call it DENIAL!!
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You have encountered what's commonly known as a Troll - someone who posts garbage just to get a rise out of unsuspecting people such as yourself.
There are thousands of threads here - check them out. Just don't feed the trolls... with words or energy ::troll::
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On 2005-10-13 07:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Wow...I was hoping to gain some intelligent insight at this site regarding Straight, Inc. but... It seems that you have turned this into a pro-illegal drug forum! I have not seen one post providing any documented abuse...a bunch of anonymous druggies complaining about their lost (druggie) days. No wonder your parent's were desperate for some, any program to reach you!! No wonder they were watching you in the bathroom! I wouldn't even let you in my home! All this site has done is document how a program like Straight, Inc., (flawed that it may have been) flourished. Sounds like most of you still won't take any accountability but you wish everyone else would. Call it DENIAL!!
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To the Anonymous Poster: Not sure what you want for documentation. But traditionally, here at fornits, the "Survivors", currently "Veterans", forum is more of a free-for-all, lots of self-expression in various creative and journalistic ways, lots of people just communicating back and forth. The "Straight Testimony" forum is whereabouts people mostly stick to the historical retellings. Perhaps you see the need for something rather different altogether. Let's say this is like a cafeteria lunch, I think you are looking for more of a formal dinner, and I think it would be easier to find a venue and make that than keep on telling the cafeteria to quiet down and mind all their manners and so on.
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I wish the person who wont' come forward with their name about the crowbar would shut the fuck up. I'll kill you all, I don't care if you don't like it or not. If you let someone come on to a survivor's site regarding Straight and you can't simply delete him/her out of your lives and in all the threads - and you have to thrive on bringing any effort down, I say they and you deserved to be flogged like the rest of the trolls.
Nevertheless, this site is a free-for-all and I don't honestly find the person's thread about us all being druggies actually so personal. I bet it was Gin again.
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Yeah, let's flog the trolls!!!
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On 2005-10-13 20:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I wish the person who wont' come forward with their name about the crowbar would shut the fuck up. I'll kill you all, I don't care if you don't like it or not. If you let someone come on to a survivor's site regarding Straight and you can't simply delete him/her out of your lives and in all the threads - and you have to thrive on bringing any effort down, I say they and you deserved to be flogged like the rest of the trolls.
Nevertheless, this site is a free-for-all and I don't honestly find the person's thread about us all being druggies actually so personal. I bet it was Gin again."
Antigen is a retard.The only good posts made by Antigen are the ones where the text has been cut-n-paste from other sources.Antigen chimes in on others conversations,like the 7stepping scumbag she is and always will be,and constantly answers a question with another question.
I would be SO SIMPLE to just erase any of the posts deemed "threatening",but then Antigen would not be able to participate with them.
Antigen claims to have not enough time to police the board,but seems to reply to just about every post.
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On 2005-10-15 02:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
I would be SO SIMPLE to just erase any of the posts deemed "threatening",
By what and whose standards would that be determined? Hell, BS says that anyone who disagrees with her is threatening. Should we adopt her views as you seem to have? :roll:
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On 2005-10-15 02:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-13 20:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I wish the person who wont' come forward with their name about the crowbar would shut the fuck up. I'll kill you all, I don't care if you don't like it or not. If you let someone come on to a survivor's site regarding Straight and you can't simply delete him/her out of your lives and in all the threads - and you have to thrive on bringing any effort down, I say they and you deserved to be flogged like the rest of the trolls.
Nevertheless, this site is a free-for-all and I don't honestly find the person's thread about us all being druggies actually so personal. I bet it was Gin again."
Antigen is a retard.The only good posts made by Antigen are the ones where the text has been cut-n-paste from other sources.Antigen chimes in on others conversations,like the 7stepping scumbag she is and always will be,and constantly answers a question with another question.
I would be SO SIMPLE to just erase any of the posts deemed "threatening",but then Antigen would not be able to participate with them.
Antigen claims to have not enough time to police the board,but seems to reply to just about every post.
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Antigen is a needed force on this board. She has the ability to make people look at issues from a different perspective, not necessarily because she believes in a particular position, but because it causes people to think and maybe see another persons' point of view. If she is pissing you off it is probably because you got a small glimpse of someone elses point of view or you were forced to step back and rethink your position for a nano second, which seems to be difficult for alot of people on this board (myself included).
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On 2005-10-15 06:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-15 02:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-13 20:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I wish the person who wont' come forward with their name about the crowbar would shut the fuck up. I'll kill you all, I don't care if you don't like it or not. If you let someone come on to a survivor's site regarding Straight and you can't simply delete him/her out of your lives and in all the threads - and you have to thrive on bringing any effort down, I say they and you deserved to be flogged like the rest of the trolls.
Nevertheless, this site is a free-for-all and I don't honestly find the person's thread about us all being druggies actually so personal. I bet it was Gin again."
Antigen is a retard.The only good posts made by Antigen are the ones where the text has been cut-n-paste from other sources.Antigen chimes in on others conversations,like the 7stepping scumbag she is and always will be,and constantly answers a question with another question.
I would be SO SIMPLE to just erase any of the posts deemed "threatening",but then Antigen would not be able to participate with them.
Antigen claims to have not enough time to police the board,but seems to reply to just about every post.
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Antigen is a needed force on this board. She has the ability to make people look at issues from a different perspective, not necessarily because she believes in a particular position, but because it causes people to think and maybe see another persons' point of view. If she is pissing you off it is probably because you got a small glimpse of someone elses point of view or you were forced to step back and rethink your position for a nano second, which seems to be difficult for alot of people on this board (myself included). "
No.
You are wrong.
I explained it like it is.
Nice try though.
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Do you have to work at it to be this much of a moron or does it just come naturally to you? :roll:
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I am not making all these Anonymous posts. You don't know who the fuck you are talking to.
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Enlighten me then dickhead. :lol:
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and answer the question. I really would like to know if moronism is a talent you're born with or if you have to go to some special school to develop it.
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Oz never gave nothin to the tin-man, that he didn't, didn't already have...
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Last night I gained access to the apt building where "Animals" lives. I used my crowbar to pry open the front door, then I kicked in his bedroom door to find him asleep. I doused him in gasoline, lit a match, and set the bitch on fire. He didn't suffer the flames for too long though, because I proceeded ton bash his fucking skull in with the crowbar. :lol:
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On 2005-10-15 02:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
I would be SO SIMPLE to just erase any of the posts deemed "threatening",but then Antigen would not be able to participate with them.
It's that 'deem' part where the trouble comes in. How am I supposed to tell the difference between a threat backed by intent and an inside joke among friends? It's above my pay grade to think for you. You'll have to do that for yourself.
On 2005-10-15 06:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
Antigen is a needed force on this board. She has the ability to make people look at issues from a different perspective, not necessarily because she believes in a particular position, but because it causes people to think and maybe see another persons' point of view. If she is pissing you off it is probably because you got a small glimpse of someone elses point of view or you were forced to step back and rethink your position for a nano second, which seems to be difficult for alot of people on this board (myself included). "
Why thank you! Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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On 2005-10-16 08:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Last night I gained access to the apt building where "Animals" lives. I used my crowbar to pry open the front door, then I kicked in his bedroom door to find him asleep. I doused him in gasoline, lit a match, and set the bitch on fire. He didn't suffer the flames for too long though, because I proceeded ton bash his fucking skull in with the crowbar. :lol: "
Your style is not as good as the original. It is too contrived. Try again. The following word choices were awkward, and in general make the scenario unbelievable: "gained access", "to find him asleep", "suffer the flames", and "proceeded". Less words, more gore next time. Thank you for playing.
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Last night I got into the apt building where "Animals" lives. I used my crowbar to pry open the front door, and then I kicked in his bedroom door. He was asleep. I doused him in gasoline, lit a match, and set the bitch on fire. He didn't burn for too long though, because I bashed his fucking skull in with the crowbar.
That better?
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Yes, that one is upsetting to read. I rather like Animals. I'm sure he doesn't live there. He just put a dummy in the bed.
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Keep telling yourself that. :lol: