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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 04:49:00 AM

Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 04:49:00 AM
Straight Sarasota closed under investigation of the district attorney- this was brought on by Marti Heath who escaped Straight and ran right to the authorities, I believe. This produced a 600 page criminal investigation report, it resulted in 13 criminal indictments which your staff pled out too.

I believe it was Marti Heath, Ann Crampton that went on 60 Minutes against you and Straight in the 1980's.

During this investigation you created the Straight Foundation to move property and money, this prompted Richard (then a straightling and on staff) to start questioning things and to subsequently realize what was going on and begin trying to stop you.

Straight St. Pete was closed because of Richards efforts (we all know that).

Miller Newton was caught not disclosing property to the bankruptcy court by Marti Heath's research and consultation of a neighbor of Miller's. As far as I know anyway. I believe Richard did show at every meeting and protest Miller Newton and with good reason.

Marti Heath coined the phrase survivor of the American Holocaust. How do I know? Because she has a big Magnetic sign on her car that says it.

I have been at protest against Straight as I know many others have including Marti. Yet, you seem to think that Richard is out there alone, the only one who thinks what you have done is evil. I ASSSURE you he is not alone.

I believe it is a survivor who runs these boards which I see AS COMPLETELY AGAINST STRAIGHT.

I believe it was Mike Sherman that went up against Miller on ALL zoning issues.

I believe that Wes Fager has spent probably thousands of dollars and written hundreds of articles about Straight and exposing them and even publishing evidence of wrongdoing.

I believe it was Marti Heath that reported Straight to the IRS based on tax returns provided by Wes Fager.

I think it was Marti Heath that filed a complaint against your husband in the last three years with the United Nations for Crimes Against Humanity. The United Nations responded with sympathy for survivors and appalled at your husbands actions however, due to the way treaties were signed could not at that moment pursue him but in the future, well you know.

I believe it was Shelby, Chris and Sammie that notified all the dignitaries (for your party in Rome) of your true history.

I believe it was Sammie that went on Montel (National Television)against your little Straight program and told the truth.

I believe that Marti Heath and her survivor friend, also had Miller fired from various jobs, had him placed on the abusive priest website, reported him to the bankruptcy court, help draft the Miller Newton binder that now is part of the public record of Madeira Beach.

I believe, actually I know there were many survivors at the protest in front of your house, I know cause I was there. Yet, you have singled out Richard.

So, what is my point? My point is if all these allegations are sooo false and if all these people are doing all these things that you apparently consider a threat (remember your definition of threat is "descent"). Than why are you focusing on Richard? If those things TRULY frighten you than seems to me you would be focusing on those folks too , ahh but your not, and why not?
 
Because you know it is all true. Afraid? Yes, you are. You are afraid of us, which is why all those people can protest you so much and you do nothing because you know they are just telling the truth. You and Your husband KNEW (because you were warned in a letter of 1978 by the State of Florida addressed to you) that you were breaking the law, hurting kids and holding them against their will. How evil is that? Who is the evil one here Richard, Marti, Mike, Sammie, I think NOT.

Are you afraid? Oh, I believe you are, but I believe you are afraid of the truth NOT of Richard. You cant even or your unwilling to defend yourself against all these other people who do not agree with you.

Wasn?t it YOU who threatened Richard in that letter where you called him "prey", wasn't it Miller that threatened (but never followed through) to sue Marti Heath. It was your husband who in the 1980?s threatened the HRS case workers to give Straight its license or else be fired.
Seems like you all are the ones that are making threats, funny though they are just that, you always back down.
FYI- Trying to frighten Richard by calling him "prey" or trying to scare ANY of the survivors for that matter won?t work. Why? They lived through your Straight hell; they have already been beaten, abused and starved. Your little threats are just that.
And I just have to say this - So, you can't sleep at night GOOOOOOOOOOOOD. Most survivors or your Straight hell have the same problem as a direct result of PTSD associated with Straight which YOU caused. So, it?s about time you felt a milobit of what they feel all the time. Oh yeah, you said you couldn?t sleep, you said you are sooo afraid. Well let me chime in some advice here for you ?Get a life and get over it?. Sound familiar?

If you TRULY think that these people are WRONG in their accusations than why aren't you doing something about it? There?s only ONE possible answer because you know they are right. The best you could do is try to sue Richard. That?s funny. Then after you sued him you realized what a mistake it was and tried like hell to delay the lawsuit over and over again (according to public record).
THAT SAYS IT ALL.
Your Guilty You Know It. So, just come out and admit it. We know it, the world knows it, Honesty Betty remember!
Give it up Betty you can?t win. Purge your soul now and just admit it. You?re the ONLY one who is still in denial. Funny Helen Peterman mentioned being ?afraid? too. Odd isn?t it. Both of you afraid. Hmmmm. Yes, we know about her phone call stating ?I?m afraid aren?t you, how do we know? We are just that good. Plus we have a witness signed statement.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
That Ray B. closed the headquarters and the Straight in St. Pete is still the biggest bunch of bullshit lies. He was NEVER on staff or programmed at the wharehouse off Gandy in St. Pete. you fucking moron.

If he did close a different Straight, could someone please clear this up?

I know b/c I was there, Ray would never have been allowed on staff b/c he's a nutcase nervous wreck plus I spoke to one of the Senior staff members recently, Christine H., she has NO recollection of a Ray or a Richard off on Gandy where she spent fifteen years and right up until the day Gandy shut down, you fucking shit talker. Why do you keep letting everyone know what an asshole and a liar you are?
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
Take your fucking meds already
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
One dollar. Thats what they dropped it too to get rich to quit. $1.00. Hmmmm If he was so wrong why did they drop it to a measley DOLLAR?
Shit I wish they'ed sue me.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
At first they were suing Richard for millions of dollars then they dropped it to $1 and even offered to just walked away from the whole thing if Richard agreed not to sue them back.

He declined all offers!  Why?  Because he did nothing wrong and the Semblers have.

Wait till this thing plays itself out all the way.

I do not think Lenny Englander has not told his clients the truth.

After reading Betty's deposition, and while it is just a guess, I think Lenny, his firm, Anna Maria, the Semblers and DFAF formerly Straight are in big legal trouble and I think Richard plans to finish them off legally once and for all.

I wish him the best!  Go get them!
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2005, 10:38:00 PM
Straight Sarasota transmogrified in to L.I.F.E. PROGRAM in Sarasota (Osprey) Florida with Helen Petermann-George Ross-Dr Bob Nay.
Straight Sarasota did not go away-they just opened a new facility and gave it a sweeter sounding name Life Is For Everyone.How precious.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on October 01, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
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On 2005-10-01 12:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"At first they were suing Richard for millions of dollars then they dropped it to $1 and even offered to just walked away from the whole thing if Richard agreed not to sue them back.



He declined all offers!  Why?  Because he did nothing wrong and the Semblers have.



Wait till this thing plays itself out all the way.



I do not think Lenny Englander has not told his clients the truth.



After reading Betty's deposition, and while it is just a guess, I think Lenny, his firm, Anna Maria, the Semblers and DFAF formerly Straight are in big legal trouble and I think Richard plans to finish them off legally once and for all.



I wish him the best!  Go get them!"


Fuckin' right on !!  Ya'll rock it Downnn.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 07:42:00 AM
Watch ALL of this disappear in to thin air.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
Well, it might, we will see what happens. Has the Betty Sembler deposition made it to any papers down there? Any news media at all? I have not found it in any news searches. Where's that funny journalist who covered Newton's thing a little while back? Lee something.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 11:47:00 AM
It's just a guess I do not think Richard will let this thing disappear.

I think he's got them in a legal bind and has waited a very long time for that to happened.

i think legally he's going to take them out.

I am sure he will suffer personally further but what does he have to lose?  

Nothing.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
Excuse me, but why isn't the Betty Sembler deposition in the papers down there? I have been searching and it looks like no one has picked it up. Isn't it good stuff? I haven't read it yet. What is in it? Why isn't anyone carrying the story? Has Radley Balko got a copy yet? Lee Drury De Cesare? Anyone? Bill Maher? I have chores to do. Could somebody please get on this? Thanks.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Helena Handbasket on October 02, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
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On 2005-10-02 09:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Excuse me, but why isn't the Betty Sembler deposition in the papers down there? I have been searching and it looks like no one has picked it up. Isn't it good stuff? I haven't read it yet. What is in it? Why isn't anyone carrying the story? Has Radley Balko got a copy yet? Lee Drury De Cesare? Anyone? Bill Maher? I have chores to do. Could somebody please get on this? Thanks."


When was the last time you read a depo in a paper?  I'll assume you're talking about a newspaper here.  Doesn't work that way.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 01:51:00 PM
I'm not expecting the fucking depo itself to be in the paper. I rather presumed, with all the fucking hype it's getting that there was something of substance in the depo that the news could be interested in. Does that make sense? Or do I need to type more slowly for you?
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Helena Handbasket on October 02, 2005, 02:12:00 PM
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On 2005-10-02 10:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I'm not expecting the fucking depo itself to be in the paper. I rather presumed, with all the fucking hype it's getting that there was something of substance in the depo that the news could be interested in. Does that make sense? Or do I need to type more slowly for you?"

No, asshat, you don't, but maybe you ought to type more slowly for your own understanding, because you said:  

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Excuse me, but why isn't the Betty Sembler deposition in the papers down there? I have been searching and it looks like no one has picked it up. Isn't it good stuff? I haven't read it yet. What is in it? Why isn't anyone carrying the story? Has Radley Balko got a copy yet? Lee Drury De Cesare? Anyone? Bill Maher? I have chores to do. Could somebody please get on this? Thanks.


It sounds like you're talking about the deposition itself.  Now unless you want me to start making *gasp* ASSUMPTIONS, since you said "deposition", I am going to think you MEANT "deposition"

... and we all have "chores" to do. You sound like an CEO-wannabe when you ask people to "get on this".  If you're that interested, get on it yourself.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
Fuck you, you're a retard. Who the fuck would think a newspaper or any media thing would reprint the whole fucking deposition? Uh. You. Sorry you are so dumb, but that is not my problem.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Helena Handbasket on October 02, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
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On 2005-10-02 12:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Fuck you, you're a retard. Who the fuck would think a newspaper or any media thing would reprint the whole fucking deposition? Uh. You. Sorry you are so dumb, but that is not my problem."


Well if that makes you feel better.  So be it.  
 :roll:
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
ok, back to reality.

It is a valid question, why is this story not covered?

This is a repeating trend for years both in local and national press. They just don't touch it. It's almost like these people are sacred. But I think the real reason is there are so many people in powerful places that have dirty hands. In other words the tentacles from Sembler reach very far. We will never know how far for certain. But for local news to turn a blind eye on this is in my mind criminal. Just read todays paper and all the non-stories in it. But a real story involving thousands of kids, created right here, with associations with our curent president are not making print is very very disturbing. It just shows me that power is the issue and not the truth.

And forget about the Deposition for a second. I have a bigger question for the JEWISH COMMUNITY

WHY DO YOU PROTECT THESE PEOPLE? WHY ARE YOU SILENT?

Shame on the holocaust museum for not following through with complaints about abuse from Straight and the Semblers. The complaints are real. The Holocaust museum is supposed to be a noble place but when child abusers are are the board then hey?  

What gives?

Any honest jewish person that will take just a small amount of time a research this will be shocked and sickened.

I call on the Jewish Community to investigate and quit shielding the evil in your midst.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
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On 2005-10-02 12:38:00, Helena Handbasket wrote:

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On 2005-10-02 12:35:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Fuck you, you're a retard. Who the fuck would think a newspaper or any media thing would reprint the whole fucking deposition? Uh. You. Sorry you are so dumb, but that is not my problem."




Well if that makes you feel better.  So be it.  

 :roll: "


Shut the fuck up.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
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On 2005-10-02 14:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"ok, back to reality.



It is a valid question, why is this story not covered?



This is a repeating trend for years both in local and national press. They just don't touch it. It's almost like these people are sacred. But I think the real reason is there are so many people in powerful places that have dirty hands. In other words the tentacles from Sembler reach very far. We will never know how far for certain. But for local news to turn a blind eye on this is in my mind criminal. Just read todays paper and all the non-stories in it. But a real story involving thousands of kids, created right here, with associations with our curent president are not making print is very very disturbing. It just shows me that power is the issue and not the truth.



And forget about the Deposition for a second. I have a bigger question for the JEWISH COMMUNITY



WHY DO YOU PROTECT THESE PEOPLE? WHY ARE YOU SILENT?



Shame on the holocaust museum for not following through with complaints about abuse from Straight and the Semblers. The complaints are real. The Holocaust museum is supposed to be a noble place but when child abusers are are the board then hey?  



What gives?



Any honest jewish person that will take just a small amount of time a research this will be shocked and sickened.



I call on the Jewish Community to investigate and quit shielding the evil in your midst."

Any honest Jew goes about their business like any other person and does not consort with these whining museum Jews.The best thing you could do is take an example from the BinLaden boys and put some bombs and bulletts in to ANYBODY who walks through the doors of the Jew Liar Propaganda Museum.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
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On 2005-10-02 04:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Watch ALL of this disappear in to thin air."


Look at it this way.
I have been caught doing some pretty horrible stuff in my life and most of the time it is just forgotten about and goes away without the assistance of a lawyer.
Even though the Semblers are real creeps they probably have given money to more good causes than I have.
Ever been in Jail?Most of those creeps in there get out to walk the streets again with less than a slap on the wrist.What makes you think the Semblers will get punished enough EVEN IF they are caught red handed?
The only thing to do is a BinLaden style of punishment on them AND their innocent neighbors.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 09:59:00 PM
I disagree, in doing violence they win.

Also one would become worse than them. I for one will not bend to the temptation to physically harm another. It wasn't right what they did to us and it isn't right for us to exact anything other than legal recourse.

Will we eventually have any closure in any of this meaning a real case for all of us? Who knows? I don't.

But as long as we don't try then the answer is assured, NO, they will have gotten away with the abuses to kids.

It takes a much stronger individual to not react with violence. I'm sure many here wish them harm, but not by my hands. That's just plan wrong. There is a peaceful solution and that is dedication and unwaivering persuit of justice.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 10:19:00 PM
Thats your problem you think its about WIN or LOOSE
If a wasp stings you is that about winning or loosing?
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 02, 2005, 10:38:00 PM
Definition of Win = The story is told from coast to coast, and this can't happen to kids in our country anymore.

Loose = They got away with it and nothing else happens to them.

Reality = Probably something in the middle. They will probably he held accountable to some extent. Will this help to shut down other programs? Probably a few.

Just an opinion.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 12:00:00 AM
I think the Semblers should be put feet first in to one of Outi Husseins grinding machines or fed alive to starved hogs.
I think being forced to be deposed will be all the punishment they will ever get and that is usually the case with most Americans in a similar circumstance.
Most of the Semblers neighbors and peers have never been forced in to that humiliation.
Nobody cares about their ambassadorship positions.
When was the last time you bought bubble gum in order to collect US AMBASSADOR TRADING CARDS?
I think the 7Schleppers posting here deserve a strong disciplinary beating before Sweaty Betty & Smelly Mel.
I would not object to watching the Straightlike story as a TV program but I know the bastards in my community who made Straightlike possible will never be exposed and they are on the school board in the hospital and courthouse fucking with people every day.Being exposed as abusers would only get them a job promotion.
BinLaden NEVER lied to the American people.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 01:42:00 AM
i think your definition of the word loose is a little bit loose there. Either that, or the spelling of the word is lacking something. Accuracy.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 02:42:00 AM
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On 2005-10-02 22:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"i think your definition of the word loose is a little bit loose there. Either that, or the spelling of the word is lacking something. Accuracy. "


Like I said a few posts ago here, the meds...take them soon.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
You mean your meds?
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 12:25:00 PM
you're
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Antigen on October 03, 2005, 01:33:00 PM
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On 2005-10-01 07:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

, Ray would never have been allowed on staff b/c he's a nutcase nervous wreck


Darlin' that's the first and most important prerequisite.

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
--Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe commander, sentenced to death at Nuremberg

Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
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On 2005-10-03 10:33:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2005-10-01 07:43:00, Anonymous wrote:


, Ray would never have been allowed on staff b/c he's a nutcase nervous wreck




Darlin' that's the first and most important prerequisite.

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
--Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe commander, sentenced to death at Nuremberg


"



Being a normal citizen and happening to drag the Ambassador of Italy into court is great, but doing it while "a nutcase nervous wreck" is priceless!

Many thanks and platatudes Sir Richard!! 1st knight of the just cause for truth.


I applause your nuttyness as it sure is effective.
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2005, 09:48:00 PM
He is not doing it for US.He will usurp OUR SUFFERING (just like a museum Jew) and use it for his own gains.
He stuck with it all these years,so good for HIM,but he is NOT caring about any abused kids.He just holds them up for his own use.
He owes me nothing.
He is behaving just as he did when he was a child abusing staff member!
Title: Betty Semble Read (if your not too afraid) Then You Will Kno
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
:wave:  :grin: