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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 21, 2005, 11:20:00 PM
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I got a DUI, not because I'm irresponsible and a selfish prick who doesn't care if I endanger others, but because I am powerless over drugs!
I beat up my girlfriend while I was high on cocaine and she was mouthing off. I didn't do it because I'm a stupid asshole who can only deal with things violently, I did it 'cause I'm powerless over drugs!
I stole money from someone to pay for my meth, not because I'm a shithead that has no respect for other people's property, but because I am powerless over drugs!
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What does your sponsor have to say about this?
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He said I am powerless over drugs. That's how I know I am powerless over drugs!
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I have to disagree with this statement. ::crybaby::
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
--Denis Diderot, French encyclopedist
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What's up, Doc.
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On 2005-09-21 20:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I got a DUI, not because I'm irresponsible and a selfish prick who doesn't care if I endanger others, but because I am powerless over drugs!
I beat up my girlfriend while I was high on cocaine and she was mouthing off. I didn't do it because I'm a stupid asshole who can only deal with things violently, I did it 'cause I'm powerless over drugs!
I stole money from someone to pay for my meth, not because I'm a shithead that has no respect for other people's property, but because I am powerless over drugs!
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""I was gonna clean my room
but then I got high
I was gonna get up and find a broom
but then I got high
my room is still messed up and I know why -
cause I got high,
cause I got high,
because I got high""
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On 2005-09-22 10:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-09-21 20:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I got a DUI, not because I'm irresponsible and a selfish prick who doesn't care if I endanger others, but because I am powerless over drugs!
I beat up my girlfriend while I was high on cocaine and she was mouthing off. I didn't do it because I'm a stupid asshole who can only deal with things violently, I did it 'cause I'm powerless over drugs!
I stole money from someone to pay for my meth, not because I'm a shithead that has no respect for other people's property, but because I am powerless over drugs!
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""I was gonna clean my room
but then I got high
I was gonna get up and find a broom
but then I got high
my room is still messed up and I know why -
cause I got high,
cause I got high,
because I got high"""
I wonder if anyone was ever bold enough while misbehaving to sing this. :rofl: :rofl: I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort to take away the power of rational decision, to drain people of their free will--and a hell of a lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all. For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain.
--Gene Roddenberry, Creator of Star Trek
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I sent my kids to an abusive drug rehab, not because I'm a failure as a parent who was too lazy or incompetent to raise my kid so I just dropped them off with the lowest bidder, but because they are powerless over drugs!
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It's funny how assholes in AA or NA use this excuse for their behavior. Too chickenshit to take responsibility for their actions, they blame the drug they were doing, or some mystical notion of "powerlessness", taking the blame off of themselves. "The Devil made me do it".
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I joined a 12 Step group after getting out of Straight, not because I'd been brainwashed to believe I had a drug problem or anything like that, but because I am powerless over drugs!
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On 2005-09-22 18:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's funny how assholes in AA or NA use this excuse for their behavior. Too chickenshit to take responsibility for their actions, they blame the drug they were doing, or some mystical notion of "powerlessness", taking the blame off of themselves. "The Devil made me do it"."
I have to disagree with you on your point of view here. This is a misconstrewed notion that this is an excuse or copout, however when I was cought in the grip of active addiction I done a lot of fucked up things to support my habit. My mentality was getting, using, finding ways and means to get more. When I got clean I had to accept responsibility for my actions, however fucked up they were. However now that I am not using, I am responsible for the way I act and the way I react. And I will have to say that the fellowships of AA or NA is a program of freewill change unlike the hell we all went through at Straight. I try not to ever push the fellowships down anybody's throat nor do I try to push my beliefs on anyone, however I did feel the need to have some free expression on this rebuttle.The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people equally in war and peace. And covers with the shield of it's protection all classes of men at all times and under all circumstances.
--US Supreme Court, Ex Parte Milligan
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So if you "accept responsibility" for your actions while you were actively addicted, how can you say you were "powerless"?
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On 2005-09-23 10:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So if you "accept responsibility" for your actions while you were actively addicted, how can you say you were "powerless"?"
Exactly! Note the double speak. I'm tired of people doing terrible things and then using the excuse "oh I have a drug problem."
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Now get ready for some lame Stepcult explanation, featuring more doublespeak........
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You can not graft a new idea onto a closed mind.
Fear believes--courage doubts. Fear falls up the earth and prays--- courage stands erect and thinks. Fear is barbarism---courage is civilization. Fear believes in witchcraft, devils and ghosts. Fear is religion, courage is science.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer
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Thanks for the sloganeering, DOC! Now somebody read the 12 Traditions.....
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Hey Anon...Fuck you very much... ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both:: ::both::
If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
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Typical 12 Step jive......you ask a simple question:
So if you "accept responsibility" for your actions while you were actively addicted, how can you say you were "powerless"?
...and then you get some Stepcult slogan and then insults and 'fuck yous'. Thanks for the demonstration of the Stepcraft magic at work, DOC.
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On 2005-09-23 10:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Typical 12 Step jive......you ask a simple question:
So if you "accept responsibility" for your actions while you were actively addicted, how can you say you were "powerless"?
...and then you get some Stepcult slogan and then insults and 'fuck yous'. Thanks for the demonstration of the Stepcraft magic at work, DOC. "
Why don't you PM me and we can talk about it rather than you hiding behind a bag and talking your onesided smack without having to be identified ???? And by the way I do feel sorry for you.The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
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Why can't you discuss this openly? Afraid more people will see the truth about your ridiculous 12Step social club?
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On 2005-09-23 10:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why can't you discuss this openly? Afraid more people will see the truth about your ridiculous 12Step social club?"
I take it you must be jealous because it must be more than you have ???? Either you are one of the ones who can't make it because you are a weak individual or you settle for the less in which is what you have.... and the group leader was a clown.
GregFL
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Yeah, I'm real jealous of dogma-spouting Stepcult buffoons.
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On 2005-09-23 10:46:00, DOC SLOW wrote:
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On 2005-09-23 10:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Why can't you discuss this openly? Afraid more people will see the truth about your ridiculous 12Step social club?"
I take it you must be jealous because it must be more than you have ???? Either you are one of the ones who can't make it because you are a weak individual or you settle for the less in which is what you have.... and the group leader was a clown.
GregFL
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Note how the Stepcraft practitioner must resort to personal attacks and insinuations when the precious Stepcult dogma is questioned.....
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That's why it's pointless to argue with 12Step zombies. They can't give you a real answer, just doublespeak and jive, if you even question the dogma, they start name-calling. Fucking nimrods.
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I feel I am having a battle of wits with an unarmed person. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...
-- Richard Henry Lee, 1787
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On 2005-09-23 10:54:00, DOC SLOW wrote:
"I feel I am having a battle of wits with an unarmed person. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...
-- Richard Henry Lee, 1787
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Wow. You're really clever. So far, DOC, they've been asking legitimate questions, and all you can do is throw out lame insults. Truly a distinguishing characteristic of an advanced intellect.
As far as the battle of wits goes, I think you were disarmed as soon as you walked into a 12Step meeting, and Anon has access to nukes. Good luck, dumbass.
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On 2005-09-23 10:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So if you "accept responsibility" for your actions while you were actively addicted, how can you say you were "powerless"?"
So, can you answer that, or do you just wanna exchange insults? Either one's fine with me, 12Step.
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I would try to discuss obsession and compulsion with you, how ever hiding behind anonymous posings...giving me a hard time about being in a 12 step program, I know you are not serious about anything but giving me a hard time...So my hat is off to you....And I hope you will find the answer you are seeking.
Psychedelics often produce psychotic and even violent behavior in those who have never used them.
--Timothy Leary
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Let me get this STRAIGHT.......
You can't talk about an organization, which has half of it's name as "Anonymous", with me, because I'm posting here anonymously?
THAT is funny! Oh, the irony is killing me (but not as fast as my powerlessness over drugs)!!!!
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On 2005-09-23 11:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Let me get this STRAIGHT.......
You can't talk about an organization, which has half of it's name as "Anonymous", with me, because I'm posting here anonymously?
THAT is funny! Oh, the irony is killing me (but not as fast as my powerlessness over drugs)!!!!"
Can we get powerless together?
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On 2005-09-23 11:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
Can we get powerless together?"
Sure! Just make sure it weighs before giving them any $$$$.......
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Sure! Just make sure it weighs before giving them any $$$$......."
I always have the good stuff.
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Cool. I can't wait to get high with you, because I am powerless over drugs!!!!!
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"Cool. I can't wait to get high with you, because I am powerless over drugs!!!!!"
Let's do this then
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Sounds cool!! Let's do it!
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"Sounds cool!! Let's do it!"
My place or yours?
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Either one works for me.
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"Either one works for me."
Yours. I'll treat this time.
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Thanks! That's nice of you! :smokin:
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I think that DRUGS should be the ones made to go to twelve step meetings....
"Hi, my name is cocaine, and I am an illicit substance."
"HI COCAINE!!!"
"I just wanted to talk about this problem I have with flying up peoples nostrils all the time, I just cant stop...."
Apply your first step coke ole buddy, you are POWERLESS over human beings......
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"...hands went up and people hit the floor, he wasted two kids that ran for the door....."
-Beastie Boys, Paul Revere[ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2005-09-23 13:16 ]
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Yeah, those damn drugs, the way they go around making people rob and steal for them, the way they get people to commit acts of violence, it's terrible!! Somebody do something!!
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On 2005-09-23 10:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Typical 12 Step jive......you ask a simple question:
So if you "accept responsibility" for your actions while you were actively addicted, how can you say you were "powerless"?
...and then you get some Stepcult slogan and then insults and 'fuck yous'. Thanks for the demonstration of the Stepcraft magic at work, DOC. "
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm not a bitch 'cause I'm scarred from abuse and have a hard time trusting or interacting with people and fear they're gonna hurt me if I let them get close, I'm a bitch cause I'm powerless over drugs
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I don't take drugs because I enjoy their effects, I take them because I am powerless over drugs!!!!
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On 2005-09-23 09:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I joined a 12 Step group after getting out of Straight, not because I'd been brainwashed to believe I had a drug problem or anything like that, but because I am powerless over drugs!"
I say "because you have found any good reason to get out of it, yet" this has more meaning to me.
:wave:
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That last post makes no sense.
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On 2005-09-27 18:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"That last post makes no sense. "
Nothing from the Stepcult makes sense.
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I can be depraved ,sick, and violent all on my own.I think drugs are powerless over me. I am so tired of psycobabble and theraspeak...
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yeah amen. i'm a damn bitch cause i fucking feel like it now get the fuck out of my face with your stupid psychoanalysis.
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On 2005-09-25 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I'm not a bitch 'cause I'm scarred from abuse and have a hard time trusting or interacting with people and fear they're gonna hurt me if I let them get close, I'm a bitch cause I'm powerless over drugs"
i'm not your little first phaser. fuck off.
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Fuck Ever' Tin' AnyWay. Powerless Over What ??? InSanIty !1??! ::dove::