Cult: A religion with no political power.
--Tom Wolfe, American author
On 2005-09-19 11:06:00, marshall wrote:
BTW, that story about the girl who was given methedrine and acid and then gang-raped rang a bell. I read of an incident exactly like that in a book about LSD years ago. It very well could have been describing your friend. Very sad.
I don't think that a drug that creates euphoria in patients with terminal diseases is having an adverse effect.
--San Francisco oncologist & AIDS doctor, Donald Abrams, M.D.
On 2005-09-19 12:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
Pathetic, tragic stories of other people and then you ask what's the point? Me and hundreds of others would be those people if not for
The Seed! How hard is that to grasp?
"The Program" and two years will get you a vastly improved kid in *EXACTLY* the same way that "The Program" and four bucks will get you a cup of espresso at Starbucks.
Timoclea
On 2005-09-20 01:55:00, Anonymous wrote:So....let me get this straight. Only non-steppers are qualified to insult people today? I find your comment insulting. This is what I was refering to.
"another stepper steps up to the plate to insult someone they don't agree with.
You guys collectively need a real strong mirror."
I challenge you this, John Underwood: Look at your life and tell me why are all those whom you have identified in such states of misfortune? What is it about YOU that brings, swirls, and holds all of this misfortune, sadness, death and confusion to you and the lives of those you touch? That's where you need to look.
On 2005-09-19 12:50:00, John Underwood wrote:
Me and hundreds of others would be those people if not for
The Seed! How hard is that to grasp?
On 2005-09-20 02:27:00, Thom wrote:
My comment, although a bit on the sarcastic side, was not intended as an insult, but a suggestion.
A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit.
-- In the August 1993 issue, page 9, of PS magazine, the Army's magazine of preventive maintenance
Infidel: In New York, one who does not believe in the Christian religion, in Constantinople, one who does.
--Ambrose Bierce
On 2005-09-20 02:27:00, Thom wrote:
"QuoteSo....let me get this straight. Only non-steppers are qualified to insult people today? I find your comment insulting. This is what I was refering to.
On 2005-09-20 01:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"another stepper steps up to the plate to insult someone they don't agree with.
You guys collectively need a real strong mirror."QuoteI challenge you this, John Underwood: Look at your life and tell me why are all those whom you have identified in such states of misfortune? What is it about YOU that brings, swirls, and holds all of this misfortune, sadness, death and confusion to you and the lives of those you touch? That's where you need to look.
The suggestion that John is responsible for the death and imprisonment of his high school friends is at best unfounded and at worst a statement from a confused mind that could probably use some help sorting things out. My comment, although a bit on the sarcastic side, was not intended as an insult, but a suggestion.
"
On 2005-09-20 02:27:00, Thom wrote:
The suggestion that John is responsible for the death and imprisonment of his high school friends is ...
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad.
-- Salvador Dali
What I suggested is way beyond the step-craft that soaks some of the minds here.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
--George Bernard Shaw, Irish-born English playwright
On 2005-09-20 15:30:00, Antigen wrote:
"I never got past the first one. You're not powerless, neither am I, nobody is. It's not the beer and crack frittering away the profit from mine and Dad's investment. It's our brother doing that, abeted by our sister. They're not powerless either.
I hope the loyalty runs both ways.
On 2005-09-20 16:19:00, Stripe wrote:
"Thom,
All I've been trying to tell you - and you keep diverting to the 12 step stuff, is that John Underwood, Lybbi, Susie, your hero Art Barker and every other person who held power and/or exercised it without regard to the ultimate consequences .... ABSOLUTELY bear responsibility and are accountable for the actions each of you took. Period. That's it.
On 2005-09-19 16:09:00, Thom wrote:
Ginger is my baby Sister. Her story is all over this site, no need for me to add anything. Anything I say can and will be used against me.
On 2005-09-19 09:56:00, John Underwood wrote:
"Anyone who was able to free themselves from drug abuse on their own should be congratulated and consider themselves very lucky, maybe even blessed. However, it has been my experience that this is the exception, not the rule.
Although I appreciate their collective talents in creating and moderating this site, albeit the "Greg-n'Ginger pony show", it's been nice to be able to connect w/ past friends.
"
On 2005-09-20 22:18:00, Thom wrote:
It may seem strange for me to be praising Ginger, seeing as how we see eye to eye on very little when it comes to things discussed here, but hey, give credit where it is due.
My hope for her is that she one day comes to understand that powerlessness does NOT equate to weakness.
I praise God for my salvation. Art, John, Lybbi, Lybbi, Lybbi, etc. were only tools. We had in common that they had been where I was headed.
There is nothing on earth intended for innocent people so horrible as a school. To begin with, it is a prison. But it is in some respects more cruel than a prison. In a prison, for instance, you are not forced to read books written by the wardens...School was to me a sentence of penal servitude.
--George Bernard Shaw
On 2005-09-21 13:59:00, Antigen wrote:
Your wishing the same for me is like a damned death threat! It hurts me to know that you'd want that for me almost as much as what you evidently assume about my life, having not been a part of it for decades now.
Thanks but no thanks. I do miss you, but not enough to risk my own sanity and happiness by forever fending off your attempts to "help" me gain what you've got. I don't want it, frankly. I'm quite happy w/ what I've got, even w/o your involvement."
I think I know where I got off track! I thought the 11th step said 'Sought through beer and medication to remove our conscious contact w/ God...I plead lysdexia![ This Message was edited by: Thom on 2005-09-21 21:23 ]
My initial response was to sue her for defamation of character, but then I realized that I had no character.
-- Charles Barkley, on hearing Tonya Harding proclaim herself "the Charles Barkley of figure skating"
The body of
Benjamin Franklin, printer,
(Like the cover of an old book,
Its contents worn out,
And scripts of it's lettering and gilding)
Lies Here, food for worms!
Yet the work itself shall not be lost,
For it will, as he believed, appear once more
In a new
And more beautiful edition,
Corrected and amended
By it's Author!
Epitaph for himself.
--Benjamin Franklin 1706-1790
Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its
best state is but a necessary evil ---in its worst state an
intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same
miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without
government, our calamities is heightened by reflecting that we
furnish the means by which we suffer!
Thomas Paine, Common Sense
On 2005-09-23 04:57:00, Ft. Lauderdale wrote:
"Now you'll probably say I should call for funding from Dupont. Who ever he is. :grin: "
Give me the youth, and Germany will rule the world.
--Hitler
You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot
easier.
--GW Büsh, Governor of Texas. Governing Magazine, 7/98
On 2005-09-23 08:08:00, Antigen wrote:
" ::boohoo::
On 2005-11-21 11:03:00, NOT12NOW wrote:
I know what it means to be a seed success, after all I used to be one, and quite honestly I?d rather be dead than still be a seed drone.
If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
--Thomas Jefferson