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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: starry-eyed pirate on September 02, 2005, 12:38:00 AM

Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 02, 2005, 12:38:00 AM
i remember this time at the springfield program (circa 1985)when this black kid, his initials were G.W., got up from his seat on front row and ran full speed right into the cinder block wall behind the 4th phase side.  i think he had jus' been brought back from leavin'.  It was pro'ly jus' about the most violent thing i' ever seen.  That kid jus' exploded out of his seat and flew over 2 rows of 4th phasers and into the wall.  Head first.  i mean he wasn't jus' lookin' for attention, he was really tryin' to hurt himself. i remember the blood streamin' out of his nose and down onto his shirt.  He had always been a passive kid up to that point.  Str8 pushed him over the edge.  He ended up bein' restrained on the floor between the 4th phase side and the rest of group.  He pro'ly should'a' been taken to a hospital to find out if he had suffered a concussion or broken nose but i don't think he got any real medical attention.  Fuck.(shakin' my head)

Fuck Str8.  Fuck all authority.  Peace.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: dragonfly on September 02, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
I think his name was Greg.

B., what Straight were you in?
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 03, 2005, 04:53:00 PM
His name wasn't Greg
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Gah on September 03, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
Wow! I used to bang my head on the concrete floor. I remember them getting a pillow but it didnt help much. the headbanging, It would make me get dizzy. I wouldnt feel as much pain from the knees that was being pressed into my legs. people sitting on my arms. Banging my head took away the pain in my body.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
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On 2005-09-02 19:52:00, dragonfly wrote:

"I remember him also being restrained once and banging his head on the floor and the sound of his skull making that sickening thud. I can remember realizing that something is way wrong with the picture here. People don't act like that when they are actually being helped, or when the people around them are truly offering help to them. Guilt and guilt and more guilt. A prayer for him and so many others.


"


No no, sometimes when people act like that they are projecting their own fears onto other people. They really need to take a look at themselves and work on themselves if they want to be nurtured instead of being treated like a fry guy.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Dr Fucktard on September 03, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
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I wouldnt feel as much pain from the knees that was being pressed into my legs. people sitting on my arms. Banging my head took away the pain in my body.

Exactly -- over time we began to realize that there was a reason behind this seemingly irrational behavior.

So, now we make a point of hitting misbehavors over the head before putting them on the floor, thus saving them the trouble. ::bangin::
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 04, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
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On 2005-09-03 14:04:00, Ex5k wrote:

"Wow! I used to bang my head on the concrete floor. I remember them getting a pillow but it didnt help much. the headbanging, It would make me get dizzy. I wouldnt feel as much pain from the knees that was being pressed into my legs. people sitting on my arms. Banging my head took away the pain in my body. "


i know what you mean Ex5k. While i was doin' my time in that institutional mind-rape prison i was pro'ly restrained close to... fuck, i don' even know how many times, maybe 'round 50-75 times.  The longer i was in there the crazier i got.  Eventually when i would get restrained i started bangin' my head off of the hard tile floor too.  it didn't even hurt, even though i was slammin' my head as hard as i could.  It was jus' sheer frustration comin' out.  They were in control of virtually every aspect of my life.  That place made me sick.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: the wet noodle on September 04, 2005, 11:17:00 PM
[ This Message was edited by: the wet noodle on 2005-10-07 08:38 ]
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 05, 2005, 02:04:00 PM
i know what you mean wet noodle.  It sucks to be so oppressed, and it feels so righteous to fight back.  In a world of repressed emotions it is quite liberating to finally express them physically.  At first i did kinda get off on the emotional release that physical resistance gave me but eventually the novelty wore off and as time passed and i became more and more desperate and my "disease progressed" i no longer got off on it.  i was literally bein' driven to madness.

Fuck Str8.  Fuck all authority.  God is in you.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Withdraw on September 05, 2005, 02:40:00 PM
I was there. Gi*&$ W*it# is someone I will never forget as long as I live.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 03:19:00 PM
Wow!! Who are you ?? Send me a p.m. :skull:
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 05, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
oops, fuck, that anon above was me
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: infanalyst on September 05, 2005, 05:58:00 PM
Hey Pirate and Withdraw,

I was there for that... That was in 1986. Yes and you are right... His name wasn't Greg... His name rhymed with miles and ice... HAHAHA

I think all of us in there wanted to run head first into a wall at least one time or another...

Thanks for the PM Withdraw... Check your PM's, I sent one back your way...

Aloha!
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 05, 2005, 10:03:00 PM
yeah!!!!!!!
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: shady grove on September 06, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
GW was my first oldcomer when he was on 4rth. I had no idea about this wall thing until now. He was a nice guy and I wonder where he is now. I remember he had a ferret that would fuck stuffed animals while we ate dinner.

'sup wet noodle!

 :wave:
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: the wet noodle on September 07, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
sup shady :wave:
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Diane B on September 26, 2005, 03:36:00 PM
Hey guys,

THere are quite a few of you from my time in this thread. Iwas in springfield 85/86.  There was another guy who dove into the wall then Pete C. He was so sad to see he was a misbehavor who really needed a different kind of help.  he was always getting restrained he was on 1st phase forever. I was only in for 11 months before I ditched, (7.5 months on 1st phase) and I think he was on 1st the almost the entire time i was there.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 26, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
i remember him too. He was always rockin' back 'n' forth in his chair.  He was a cool kid though.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Diane B on September 26, 2005, 03:48:00 PM
yea, he was always nice (well as nice as you can get in straight) to me. and I was always getting ripped a new ass! I had only drank 3 beers b4 getting dumped in that shithole.  so you can imagine how many times iwas confronted to "get honest"
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 26, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
i have no doubt that it sucked.  i was there.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: The Breeze on September 26, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
I got there toward the end of '86, so I must have missed the dude who headbutted the wall.  I would not have forgotten that.
I remember a 'carpet room' rap (sometime in '87) where this dude turned around and clocked this other guy right below the eye.  He must have hit a vessel because the recipient was bleeding quite a bit.  I think the 'punchee' was attempting to get the 'puncher' to sit up striaght.  Not to say that he deserved it, but he was a little sissy messing with a rather disgruntled "patient" at the time.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on September 26, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
Sounds familliar, check it out:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=7#102860 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9592&forum=7#102860)
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: The Breeze on September 26, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
Good deal (I read your post).  Way to dot that 5th phaser's eye.  He must have felt empowered by the staffer's remark enough to say what he did.
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
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On 2005-09-01 21:38:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

"i remember this time at the springfield program (circa 1985)when this black kid, his initials were G.W., got up from his seat on front row and ran full speed right into the cinder block wall behind the 4th phase side.  i think he had jus' been brought back from leavin'.  It was pro'ly jus' about the most violent thing i' ever seen.  That kid jus' exploded out of his seat and flew over 2 rows of 4th phasers and into the wall.  Head first.  i mean he wasn't jus' lookin' for attention, he was really tryin' to hurt himself. i remember the blood streamin' out of his nose and down onto his shirt.  He had always been a passive kid up to that point.  Str8 pushed him over the edge.  He ended up bein' restrained on the floor between the 4th phase side and the rest of group.  He pro'ly should'a' been taken to a hospital to find out if he had suffered a concussion or broken nose but i don't think he got any real medical attention.  Fuck.(shakin' my head)



Fuck Str8.  Fuck all authority.  Peace."
:wave:  :wave:  :wave:
Title: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
I know his parents still live in MD.  He was withdrawn off of 4th phase after being started over numerous times.  I was on 1st phase when he did it, just after lunch.  Brandon McNamara and someone else were on the rap stools.  I think it was Paula Profett.  As far as I know an ambulance was never called and he didn't exactly get up after bashing his head into the wall.

I think he went to some other mental health place to recover from the damage str8 caused him.  I liked GW; but like so many other kids in str8 he didn't have a problem with drugs - as if anyone there actually did.
Title: Re: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on August 12, 2009, 05:20:07 PM
Well, I just re-red this thread.  Sad.  I found out sometime after I wrote the original post here, that Giles Weiss killed himself several years after $tr8.

I couldn't quite write about it at the time but I was the one who held him in my lap after he bounced off the wall, all half conscious and with his blood flowin everywhere.  Poor kid.  I'd been sitting on front row too, when he jumped up and flew into the wall.

Rest in peace, Brother.
Title: Re: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on January 01, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
This is video of Giles's band Exmortis.  He's the vocalist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8OPQlf0Qll (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8OPQlf0Qll)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8OPQlf0Qll&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8OPQlf0Qll&NR=1)

He was in the Springfield, VA program with me in the mid 80s
Title: Re: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Ursus on January 01, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate"
i remember this time at the springfield program (circa 1985)when this black kid, his initials were G.W., got up from his seat on front row and ran full speed right into the cinder block wall behind the 4th phase side.  i think he had jus' been brought back from leavin'.  It was pro'ly jus' about the most violent thing i' ever seen.  That kid jus' exploded out of his seat and flew over 2 rows of 4th phasers and into the wall.  Head first.  i mean he wasn't jus' lookin' for attention, he was really tryin' to hurt himself. i remember the blood streamin' out of his nose and down onto his shirt.  He had always been a passive kid up to that point.  Str8 pushed him over the edge.  He ended up bein' restrained on the floor between the 4th phase side and the rest of group.  He pro'ly should'a' been taken to a hospital to find out if he had suffered a concussion or broken nose but i don't think he got any real medical attention.  Fuck.(shakin' my head)

Fuck Str8.  Fuck all authority.  Peace.
Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate"
Well, I just re-red this thread.  Sad.  I found out sometime after I wrote the original post here, that Giles Weiss killed himself several years after $tr8.

I couldn't quite write about it at the time but I was the one who held him in my lap after he bounced off the wall, all half conscious and with his blood flowin everywhere.  Poor kid.  I'd been sitting on front row too, when he jumped up and flew into the wall.

Rest in peace, Brother.
Soooooo very sad!  :waaaa:
Title: Re: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: Sam Kinison on January 01, 2011, 10:36:03 PM
That was after my time,I was in St.Pete(Jurassic Period!!).Day 400 of Straight.D.H.,cousin of a 4th Phaser recently started over(highest phase at that time),finished his intake.His oldcomer,soon to be my oldcomer as well,screwed up by letting him know that being judged insane could get him an exit ticket.D.H.,started his crazy act which included losing all control of his sphincter.Unfortunately,I had to share a house with this fine specimen.This was my most unforgettable night in 17 months of brainwashing.Back in the 70s,they piled newcomers in backseats with oldcomers on each door.They put DH on my lap and he crapped right there on the way to the oldcomer's house,sitting on my leg.His antics continued all night.He got taken out the next morning.
Title: Re: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on January 03, 2011, 06:51:06 PM
Are you gettin the links ??
Title: Re: The kid who flew into the cinder block wall
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on January 04, 2011, 11:22:37 PM
Hey, uh, anybody else remember when this happened.  What do you remember ?