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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: The Elan Reporter on September 01, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
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So whats everyone seeing in their neck of the woods? We are anywhere from $2.79 and up to $3.07 according to last nights news.
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$3.04 to $3.15. We are being robbed. No way there's this much of a shortage.
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$2.53 yesterday at 6:00am, $3.45 today at 6am. Shoulda filled up yesterday.
All the prices are based on futures. Even though the gas in their tanks is the same gas from yesterday, they base the price on what they have to pay today.
We cam all thank W for his masterful leadership and keen ability tp persuade our "allies" to "open up the tap for us." What a crock of shit from a total moron.
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Here in Welt Palm Beach yesterday was $2.79 a gallon for regular unleaded. This morning $3.04.
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I heard in the Atlanta area it was over $5!
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On 2005-09-01 09:38:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"$2.53 yesterday at 6:00am, $3.45 today at 6am. Shoulda filled up yesterday.
All the prices are based on futures. Even though the gas in their tanks is the same gas from yesterday, they base the price on what they have to pay today.
We cam all thank W for his masterful leadership and keen ability tp persuade our "allies" to "open up the tap for us." What a crock of shit from a total moron.
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The increased demand load worldwide and the inability to pump and refine enough oil to supply the load probally has more to do with rising oil future prices than anything Dubya is doing, no?
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It's just some bastard putting another dollar in his pocket....The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough.
--Aldous Huxley, author
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On 2005-09-01 10:20:00, Mister Pink wrote:
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On 2005-09-01 09:38:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"$2.53 yesterday at 6:00am, $3.45 today at 6am. Shoulda filled up yesterday.
All the prices are based on futures. Even though the gas in their tanks is the same gas from yesterday, they base the price on what they have to pay today.
We cam all thank W for his masterful leadership and keen ability tp persuade our "allies" to "open up the tap for us." What a crock of shit from a total moron.
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The increased demand load worldwide and the inability to pump and refine enough oil to supply the load probally has more to do with rising oil future prices than anything Dubya is doing, no?
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Yes, but they were already way too high before and Bush did little to nothing. The guy is a former Texas oilman! He LOVES to see his friends in the oil industry get rich! No way he's going to fuck with that.
Opening the reserves won't do much either. Thank God Labor Day will soon be over and travel will be down.
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On 2005-09-01 10:20:00, Mister Pink wrote:
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On 2005-09-01 09:38:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:
"$2.53 yesterday at 6:00am, $3.45 today at 6am. Shoulda filled up yesterday.
All the prices are based on futures. Even though the gas in their tanks is the same gas from yesterday, they base the price on what they have to pay today.
We cam all thank W for his masterful leadership and keen ability tp persuade our "allies" to "open up the tap for us." What a crock of shit from a total moron.
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The increased demand load worldwide and the inability to pump and refine enough oil to supply the load probally has more to do with rising oil future prices than anything Dubya is doing, no?
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Oh, definitely. He's not doing a damn thing either way: nothing to increase supply nor reduce demand. He's a complete lame duck on policy.
I was taking a stab at his campaign platform/promises from the last election.
"Mr. President, what will you do in your second term to address the rising price of fossil fuels?"
"I'll talk to our good friends, our allies, and convince them to open up the tap for us."
Fine job, Georgie.
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Now hold up a sec everyone! This latest increase on gas has nothing to do with the above mentioned, you can blame Katrina an all of the rcent increases.
They say that they can.t produce enough or any fuel at this time due to the damge the storm has done.
This is my main reason for donating an excavator and a few employees , to help out in the sid of clean up. We can all play a small role in it, from donations to donating services and or goods.
This storm is crippling our economy in a major way. Now Bush on the other hand IS going to release the emergency supply of oil/gas, it was all over the news late yesterday afternoon.
But as far as the latest increases at the pump, no one is to blame except the storm.
Fact: gas companies have to raise the prices at the pumps if the demand warrants it. It is a law in most states, don't ask me why, but it is stupid. They had yesterday a station on the NJTP that remained lower priced but where warned a fine if they did not comply wit the new prices, again, stupid thing, but its a reality.
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I'm sorry, your statement does not make sense to me. The only person who can reduce our demand is each one of us, the President of the United States does not control foreign demand or national consumption. Increasing our supply would mean drilling, (no new oil has been drilled for over 25 years due to environmental restrictions) either here or in occupied territory :wink:
A hydrogen, nuclear, wind, or solar economy is not the answer, as they are either infeasable or create larger problems...
I'm sorry, but as bush asked kerry last election
do you have any better ideas of your own?
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Did anyone know there is a tax on gas?
However, the tax is a percentage and not a fixed number...
If gas costs $1 per gallon, the government tacks 12% on, 1.12 for a .12 cent profit
If gas rises to $3 per gallon, the government jacks it up to .36 cents per gallon, making gas cost 3.36...
anyone been calling their congressman about this? or we just gonna sit here acknowledging that yes, gas prices are high... :roll:
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On 2005-09-01 11:02:00, The Elan Reporter wrote:
"Now hold up a sec everyone! This latest increase on gas has nothing to do with the above mentioned, you can blame Katrina an all of the rcent increases.
They say that they can.t produce enough or any fuel at this time due to the damge the storm has done.
This is my main reason for donating an excavator and a few employees , to help out in the sid of clean up. We can all play a small role in it, from donations to donating services and or goods.
This storm is crippling our economy in a major way. Now Bush on the other hand IS going to release the emergency supply of oil/gas, it was all over the news late yesterday afternoon.
But as far as the latest increases at the pump, no one is to blame except the storm.
Fact: gas companies have to raise the prices at the pumps if the demand warrants it. It is a law in most states, don't ask me why, but it is stupid. They had yesterday a station on the NJTP that remained lower priced but where warned a fine if they did not comply wit the new prices, again, stupid thing, but its a reality."
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/interna ... 55,00.html (http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html)
Read this and then tell me if only the storm is to blame...?
Pink, there is a thing called "cafe standards" which requires vehicles to achieve a certain amount of MPG based on size and weight.
Bush has unilaterally dismissed cafe standards, which would greatly curb demand. Don't forget the $14 billion giveaway to oil companies in the so-called energy bill. I guess the record-breaking profits aren't enough for oilmen like Dubya and Dick.
When you have oilmen setting policy on energy, you can bet that tight supplies and high demand will be encouraged.
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Your link comes up an error page Dysfunction.
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Yeah, you have to copy and paste it in the browser. No idea why the link is truncated. Sorry...
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Was watching 12:00 pm news, and they took a camera shot above a gas station and the price this hess station was asaking for regular was either $5.07 or $5.87, I dont remember. I think it was near or at Atlanta G.A.
Unfucking believeable! In Europe they pay over $5.00 a gallon.
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Bush???
Shouldn't we be blaming Katrina?
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Yes, Katrina is the cause of the rising gas prices as of late.
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The increased demand load worldwide and the inability to pump and refine enough oil to supply the load probally has more to do with rising oil future prices than anything Dubya is doing, no?
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Pink is right.
Pink, you may be ugly, but you aren't stupid. But please put a bag on.
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3.12 in western mass. Read an article today in the local paper saying our reserves can sustain 25% of the worlds needs for 400 years. Now i think its a given hybreds and hydrogen will be around way before then. Why not bank on the reserves now and dominate the market, combustion is becoming outdated fast. Another question for the think tanks out there. why can gas stations raise prices 3 times in one day. I can understand if they were buying more and getting the pump tanks filled 3 times a day at different prices to them. But when their tanks are filled at a set cost and they change that price 3 times???? i dont get it but im in the wine biz, not gas.
[ This Message was edited by: SyN on 2005-09-01 15:50 ]
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As was previously stated, prices are based off of oil futures... lemme break it down for you:
The gas sitting in the stations tank is already bought and paid for. However, the price they are charging today is based off of the price it will cost them to buy it tomorrow... get it?
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On 2005-09-01 15:49:00, SyN wrote:
"3.12 in western mass. Read an article today in the local paper saying our reserves can sustain 25% of the worlds needs for 400 years. Now i think its a given hybreds and hydrogen will be around way before then. Why not bank on the reserves now and dominate the market, combustion is becoming outdated fast. Another question for the think tanks out there. why can gas stations raise prices 3 times in one day. I can understand if they were buying more and getting the pump tanks filled 3 times a day at different prices to them. But when their tanks are filled at a set cost and they change that price 3 times???? i dont get it but im in the wine biz, not gas.
[ This Message was edited by: SyN on 2005-09-01 15:50 ]"
According to what I heard last night on the news was all stations have to by law raise the price, even if they purchased their fuel at a lower cost. Its a stupid law if you ask me.
I think the law has something to do with protecting all gas stations so that one does not make more money in a particular area resulting by offering lower prices.
I also heard today that the gas prices will drop in a few weeks, hopefully lower then $2.35 a gallon.
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but in retail prices are based on what HAS been paid, its regulations in all other retail. not gestimates thats why the oil industry is 300 billion in the profit, thats bullshit but i beleive it pink.
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As of right now, I refuse to drive my truck. All summer long I was paying to fill up both tanks over $60.00, I'll be damned now if I have to pay over $100.00 to fill both tanks. Lucky for me my morotorcycle gets 49 mpg, but you cant do alot of shopping.
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$50.00 this morning to fill up my "economy car," a Hyundai Sonata v6. Ugh!
Going to have to fill the Expedition and the boat this weekend. Looking forward to that...not.
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I also own an old economy car which my moher gave to my wife and I, 91 Accord, 2 days ago I filled it up and it cost $34.00. Last summer $34.00 was around the price I paid to fill one of my pick up trucks, and it has 2 tanks. It usually costs $18.00 last year to fill the Honda.
I actually told my wife not to drive the Hummer anymore and just use the Honda for now on. She filled the Hummer the other day and it cost over $65.00. As far as filling my trucks, that is a write off for me because they are commercial vehicles, and what sucks even more 2 of them have to pull trailers.
As for my heavy machinery I use for digging foundations, they run on diesel, again, not break on diesel price. Back in 03 I was gonna buy a new pick up with a diesel engine in it, then I decided to go with 10 cylinder, don't bother even asking what kind of milege I get with it.
The diesel engines are great especially when towing. You get the same mileage towing as you do with no load but, oil changes consist of at least 11 qrts and cost over $65.00 depending on where you take it.
Every once and awhile I see a hybrid electric vehicle on the road and would laugh at the people driving them, but I guess they are laughing back at us now.
I don't know, if this is it, if this is the end for combustion, what are we to do? they gonna super duty electric hybrid pick up trucks? How abour hybrid excavatars? Man this really sucks.
If it keeps up, I'm gonna have to decide whether to make a bold descion for 2006 to all my existing costumers about raising the price of maintenace costs. I never raised my prices on any of them. Other companies do and they loose their customers.
Filling up 5 gallon gas tanks use to cost 5-7 bucks, now? It is over $14.00. I think this entire countrys economy needs an overhall. Mimium wage needs to be brought up to at least $10.00 an hour, everything needs to be overhauled period.
This situation is turning into and is worse then what it was like back in the 70's.
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I think Dubya has bungled this from the start. But a GOOD thing he could do is suspend the gasoline tax. Conservatives would applaud him and motorists would be happy. His ratings would probably improve.
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And I have to drive 200 miles today. Not looking forward to it.
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Driving up to elan today assistant?
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On 2005-09-02 07:34:00, The Elan Reporter wrote:
"I also own an old economy car which my moher gave to my wife and I, 91 Accord, 2 days ago I filled it up and it cost $34.00. Last summer $34.00 was around the price I paid to fill one of my pick up trucks, and it has 2 tanks. It usually costs $18.00 last year to fill the Honda.
I actually told my wife not to drive the Hummer anymore and just use the Honda for now on. She filled the Hummer the other day and it cost over $65.00. As far as filling my trucks, that is a write off for me because they are commercial vehicles, and what sucks even more 2 of them have to pull trailers.
As for my heavy machinery I use for digging foundations, they run on diesel, again, not break on diesel price. Back in 03 I was gonna buy a new pick up with a diesel engine in it, then I decided to go with 10 cylinder, don't bother even asking what kind of milege I get with it.
The diesel engines are great especially when towing. You get the same mileage towing as you do with no load but, oil changes consist of at least 11 qrts and cost over $65.00 depending on where you take it.
Every once and awhile I see a hybrid electric vehicle on the road and would laugh at the people driving them, but I guess they are laughing back at us now.
I don't know, if this is it, if this is the end for combustion, what are we to do? they gonna super duty electric hybrid pick up trucks? How abour hybrid excavatars? Man this really sucks.
If it keeps up, I'm gonna have to decide whether to make a bold descion for 2006 to all my existing costumers about raising the price of maintenace costs. I never raised my prices on any of them. Other companies do and they loose their customers.
Filling up 5 gallon gas tanks use to cost 5-7 bucks, now? It is over $14.00. I think this entire countrys economy needs an overhall. Mimium wage needs to be brought up to at least $10.00 an hour, everything needs to be overhauled period.
This situation is turning into and is worse then what it was like back in the 70's.
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Super duty hybrid trucks will reportedly be released on the market in 2006. They've already got the Toyota 4runner and Lexus rs400(?) out and making 250 or so hp on hybrid platform.
I heard Ford was releasing hybrid F-150 and also super duty model.
Have to wait and see...
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F-150 is not a super duty, and far from it.Where did you read this? Got a link?
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On 2005-09-02 11:38:00, The Elan Reporter wrote:
"F-150 is not a super duty, and far from it.Where did you read this? Got a link?"
I said F-150 AND super duty. I can't remember where I heard it, but at the time it was near finished in R&D.
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Hey Syn, Do you get fuel surcharges from your suppliers? We have been getting these for over a year now. They really piss me off! It should be factored into the product.
I would be out of business if I added a fuel charge to my customer's grocery bill.
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Yesterday I took the truck out to get gas, my rear tank was empty so I filled it up. $3.11. Then topped off a gallon or 2 in the front tank, total price $56.00 and change. Now had I filled both tanks like I usually do, it would of cost $105.00 plus easily.
So they are charging as of last night anywhere from $3.11-$3.47 the highest I seen.
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On 2005-09-03 06:13:00, artman11111 wrote:
"The company i work for has a $3.00 fuel surcharfe on every invoice as of 9/1"
Not a bad idea. I guess I would need to send out a memo first b4 issuing one. It's a bold move for someone in my position, I would have to think about it.
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On 2005-09-03 06:13:00, artman11111 wrote:
"The company i work for has a $3.00 fuel surcharfe on every invoice as of 9/1"
WOW! That is low. Ours have been $50 for the past year. I can only guess that they will go to $75 to $100. I guess it depends on what is being delivered.
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Yes Art, 2 of them. Yesterday I filled 2 5 gallon gas tanks with 87, total price $34.65 Last year it cost me $12-$15. However I think I saw the lowest price for feul yet since the changes last week. $2.53 at a sununco station.
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$40 to fill up my one toyota...!
lets drill Anwar motherfuckers! :mad:
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$3.29-$3.49 here,sucks
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I know most or all of our *alumni* :lol: are living in the states, but are gas prices spiking in europe/other parts of the world? or are we finally just catching up with em'?
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$47 to fill the tank -- of a sedan! Un-fucking believable.
I don't know if prices are going up in Europe. I imagine they won't be up as much because the southern United States probably isn't as big a supplier. But their gas is insane, goes five to six bucks a gallon anyway.
The reason the gas is so expensive there isn't because of higher costs -- its actual cost is about the same as America. They just have much higher/more numerous taxes on it. It's nuts.
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The other day I was driving ans seen a GS asking $3.92, the hihest yet I've seen. I pulled in and asked to speak to the owner, I was directed to him. After I located him i asked, excuse me, "but how do I get to the Buckinghams palace?" He replied, "the Buckinghams, palace?" I said yes, I want to visit the Royal family. He said there are no royal families around here.
I told him, there must be, because I am in England. Then he asked if I were on drugs, and I said no. I asked if he took some acid and thought he was tripping that he was in England. I then said your gas prices are off the chart!
I then contacted state officials and 5 hours later he was slapped multiple fines and found to have been price gouging.
Just down the street a GS was selling gas for $3.19, and the next town over $3.05, where I filled up.
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Yeah, Big Oil makes record profits, but gas prices are high because of Iraqi insurgents, Katrina, and the King of Saudi Arabia's death. Uh-huh.
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I don't know what the hell is going on now these days, but Bush better hurry it up in the release of the gas to help lower the prices soon!
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What is everyone paying as of now after Rita? I havent been out yet to fill up, but I will find out sooner or later.
This entire situation is gonna get even uglier for those with oil gas this winter. We need soemone to put their foot down and make sure this can never happen to us again!
Sorry George, but this has really gotten my attention and it is pissing me off!
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DRILL ANWR!!!
:wstupid: :wstupid:
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I AM SO PROUD OF YOU MY LITTLE NUGGETS! A whole 6 page conversation, adult-mannered and not one mention of Mr. Kruglick. I knew it would happen one day! I think I will write a song about this. Maybe I can organize a hands across America-like chairity event for such a wonderful occasion. I wish I could stop the tears of joy from flowing! My wonderful children I knew you would come around! All you needed was a little love!
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On 2005-09-30 12:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I AM SO PROUD OF YOU MY LITTLE NUGGETS! A whole 6 page conversation, adult-mannered and not one mention of Mr. Kruglick. I knew it would happen one day! I think I will write a song about this. Maybe I can organize a hands across America-like chairity event for such a wonderful occasion. I wish I could stop the tears of joy from flowing! My wonderful children I knew you would come around! All you needed was a little love!"
You just mentioned that dirty filthy child molesting injun Kruglik, you dumb stinking asshole!
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$3.56 in Central Illinois
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we're down to about 2:60 for regular at my sunoco