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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: PFRR on August 31, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
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I was contacted today by a reputable major magazine doing a story on the troubled teen industry a buyer beware they are looking for a parent who had a child in a wilderness program and had a horrific experience, with had they had the knowledge of rights, licensing, etc. would have made a different choice. Please email me directly at parforres1@aol.com with contact information.
Andrea
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Yes, but be certain you don't contact these folks (at this secret magazine) if you had any positive experiences, or if you actually read your parent manual. Not interested, obviously . . . just looking for dirt. Sounds like this is really legit. :roll:
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If Andrea is spear-heading it, I'm sure it will be very balanced. (not)
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To both of the annons I say... well gesture....
::fuckoff:: ::fuckoff::
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http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/foreveryoung.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/foreveryoung.html)
9 kids who died while participating in a wilderness therapy program.
Doesn't get much more "horrific" than that.
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Since 1980 there have been 39 deaths at wilderness, 14 at boot camps.
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Where can I find a list of ALL 39 deaths at wilderness camps?
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I have a parent whose child had a positive experience in a Wilderness program did not go through a EC and found it on her own after lots of research.
When you assume things well then you know the rest.
And FYI this publication contacted me knows of ST and TT industry and is not wanting to talk to them, they are writing about what they want with whom they want.
I am sure it will be well balanced they are a long time national publication with a great reputation.
So instead of anonys being jealous and one sided without all your information - be for real.
Jeez! For those who want to help respond please.
Andrea
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How many children have died in their public or private high schools since 1980? I would imagine the number would be much, much higher.
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On 2005-09-01 03:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I have a parent whose child had a positive experience in a Wilderness program did not go through a EC and found it on her own after lots of research.
When you assume things well then you know the rest.
And FYI this publication contacted me knows of ST and TT industry and is not wanting to talk to them, they are writing about what they want with whom they want.
I am sure it will be well balanced they are a long time national publication with a great reputation.
So instead of anonys being jealous and one sided without all your information - be for real.
Jeez! For those who want to help respond please.
Andrea
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What's the name of the magazine?
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On 2005-09-01 03:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I have a parent whose child had a positive experience in a Wilderness program did not go through a EC and found it on her own after lots of research.
When you assume things well then you know the rest.
And FYI this publication contacted me knows of ST and TT industry and is not wanting to talk to them, they are writing about what they want with whom they want.
I am sure it will be well balanced they are a long time national publication with a great reputation.
So instead of anonys being jealous and one sided without all your information - be for real.
Jeez! For those who want to help respond please.
Andrea
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BFD, a parent had a postive experience at a Brat Camp. Just shows you don't really understand the issues at hand, Andrea. This is about kids and THEIR experience. Kids don't fund these programs, troubled parents do. Get it now?
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On 2005-09-01 04:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
"How many children have died in their public or private high schools since 1980? I would imagine the number would be much, much higher."
This is an absolutely ignorant remark. Do you have have no concept of statistical analysis?
You're comparing a population of millions with a population of thousands. Take a look at the RATE of deaths or serious injuries and you'll get an eye opener.
Another ignoramus anon. No wonder you people won't get usernames. If you do, you'd be required to account for your idiocy.
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What about you, Steve? How do you account for yours?
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why not say which magazine?
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On 2005-09-01 09:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What about you, Steve? How do you account for yours?"
Account for what? When I say something you know I said it. I'm not trying to hide.
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This is what I meant, try to read the actual words you typed.
"to account for your idiocy."
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Please point out some specific idiocy and I will do my best to account for it.
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This is Andrea and no it was not a Brat Camp it was a two week program that was monitored and her child had a successful outcome, Mom stayed close by was allowed to have contact, etc., their are some good parents out there ya know. I guess it was my ignorance to look for a parent out on this forum who had an unsuccesful experience with their child in a wilderness program, it is my feeling their are no parents on this forum who can attest to their experiences good or bad.
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OK, now I'm lost... Does any of this have to do with me? Or am I off the hook now?
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On 2005-09-01 11:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
"This is Andrea and no it was not a Brat Camp it was a two week program that was monitored and her child had a successful outcome, Mom stayed close by was allowed to have contact, etc., their are some good parents out there ya know. I guess it was my ignorance to look for a parent out on this forum who had an unsuccesful experience with their child in a wilderness program, it is my feeling their are no parents on this forum who can attest to their experiences good or bad."
Andrea, with all due respect ... you need to get it through your head that troubled programs hurt kids more than they do their parents.
Stop making excuses for parents who turn to abusive programs to fix their kids. Ignorance is no excuse. If the parent didn't know, they should have known.
End of story.
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"or if you actually read your parent manual."
Wow..you are a real piece of work.