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Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
Bloody progessive, don't you think?

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"You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)"
09:58am 29th August 2005


A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the lesson.

The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs yesterday. They warned it would backfire.

Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.

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Have your say ยป Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.

'Tolerate but not condone'

"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," he wrote in the letter

"Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end of the lesson."

Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.

"This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own level," said the father of one pupil.

Should have do's and don'ts

Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of 'do and don't'.

"They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.

"Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes, demeaning the authority of the teacher."

Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in Wonderland reasoning'.

"What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you improve something by discouraging it."

'Praise postcards'

The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards' to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for lessons.

Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the policy. "The reality is that the fword is part of these young adults' everyday language," he said.

"As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better."
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
That's bloody fuckin' excellent!

Imagine, if people weren't afraid of any words at all...
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Napolean Bonafart on August 29, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
In the old days in England if a couple wanted to bear a child they asked the King and if they got permission they hung this sub-topic sign on their door. Which means Fornication Under Coranated King. F. U. C. K. It's word.......... get used to it. It's not putting asunder if you are multiplying, but here of course they just love to be offended at such a word because they have marriage liscences and love to fuck, even if they are not pro-creating. This is why people are offended in this country. They just don't get it. It's in the dictionary. It's a word.

Ardent advocates of prohibition were obsessed by a zeal that bordered on fanaticism. They supported politicians who voted to outlaw liquor, no matter how much of it they privately consumed, and spurned politicians who voted against prohibition, no matter how sober they were personally.
Sen. Sam Ervin, Preserving The Constitution

Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2005, 09:11:00 PM
Yer shittin' me, is that true? I'm gonna look it up. Thanks for that bit.
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 02:37:00 PM
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On 2005-08-29 18:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yer shittin' me, is that true? I'm gonna look it up. Thanks for that bit."


He may believe it to be true, it's bullshit.  "Fuck" derives from the German "fike", similar to "shit" being derived from "scheisse".
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
A bit of reading for thee:

http://http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/swiss-german.htm

http://http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Popular-etymology

Also, perhaps you are correct that "fuck" and "shit" derived directly from the German, however, I think maybe the two languages parted further back, although English is indeed most closely related to German. An interesting subject.
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

 
 
 
 
 
4 entries found for fuck.
To select an entry, click on it.
  fuck[1,verb]fuck[2,noun]fuck offfuck up  

Main Entry: 1fuck
Pronunciation: 'f&k
Function: verb
Etymology: akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka to copulate
intransitive senses
1 usually obscene : COPULATE -- sometimes used in the present participle as a meaningless intensive
2 usually vulgar : MESS 3 -- used with with
transitive senses
1 usually obscene : to engage in coitus with -- sometimes used interjectionally with an object (as a personal or reflexive pronoun) to express anger, contempt, or disgust
2 usually vulgar : to deal with unfairly or harshly : CHEAT, SCREW
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2005, 03:34:00 AM
Brits driving Austrians bonkers over rude village name

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&c ... riaoffbeat (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1538&e=5&u=/afp/20050828/wl_uk_afp/britainaustriaoffbeat)

British tourists have left the residents of one charming Austrian village effing and blinding by constantly stealing the signs for their oddly-named village.
 
While British visitors are finding it hilarious, the residents of F---ing are failing to see the funny side, The Sunday Telegraph newspaper reported.
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Napolean Bonafart on September 01, 2005, 08:14:00 PM
I don't care if you don't believe me. I studied about it online. FUCK is a word used in proper context and syntax has great deep meaning. Yet "Bloody"is anoher word that's worst than FUCK. In it's proper place it offends worst than FUCK.

Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1500 years.
--John Adams, U.S. President

Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
Why, what does "bloody" mean, when used as an epithet?
Title: NEWS FLASH: TROUBLED TEENS IN UK CAN USE THE F-WORD IN CLASS
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
It's a contraction of "by the lady", a reference to the virgin Mary, and is therefore blasphemous.