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Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
Seeking survivors

If you are survivor of a residential teen program and would like to take part in this survey, please answer the following questions:

1. Which program did you attend?

2. How long were you in the program?

3. Why were you sent there?

4. Did you feel your parents were justified in sending you away?

5. How did you get there? Escort service pick you up in the middle of the night, or did you go willingly.

6. If you went willingly, do you feel the program was misrepresented to you? If so, how?

7. Education: Did you get a good education while you were in the program? Did you have teachers who gave lectures or was it all self teaching?  Did you receive a high school diploma, or were you able to finish and get a diploma on time? Do you feel the education was adequate and helped you move on to college?

8. How was the food? And the cleanliness of the place?

9. Were you abused? If so, how? How many times? By whom?

10. Did you witness others being abused? If so, what form of abuse and how often?

11. Overall, was your experience positive or negative?

12. If it was positive, please summarize your experience.

13. If it was negative, please summarize your experience.

Thank you for your help with this survey.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
14. What's with the survey, who are you?
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2005, 04:10:00 AM
There are many people who would like to know answers to those questions, and it seems this is a good place to ask.

Nothing's up with the survey, just thought it would be a good place for everyone to sum it all up.

Who am I? Well, I post anonymously because I, like many others here, don't want to share my identity. That's the beauty of this forum, right?

So don't over analyze this. Do know for sure I am someone on the side of the kids who have been harmed by programs. And I have my own personal story, as well.  

It's all good. Thanks for asking.
 ::cheers::
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 06:38:00 AM
okay. you go first.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2005, 04:26:00 PM
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On 2005-08-27 18:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Seeking survivors



If you are survivor of a residential teen program and would like to take part in this survey, please answer the following questions:



1. Which program did you attend?

Straight, Inc., St. Petersburg FL, 1982-83


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2. How long were you in the program?

Thirteen months, from Oct '82--Nov '83.

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3. Why were you sent there?

My parents found a bag of marijuana of mine, they were recruited by other Program parents that told them I'd be DEADINSANEINJAIL in the next week or so if I didn't go to Straight.


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4. Did you feel your parents were justified in sending you away?

Absolutely not. In fact, they ignored the advice of psychologists and psychiatrists and chose to believe Program dogma rather than trained professionals.


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5. How did you get there? Escort service pick you up in the middle of the night, or did you go willingly.

My parents told me it was a two week program, so I went sort of voluntarily.  I had NO idea what it was really like.  I kind of envisioned a medical facility.


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6. If you went willingly, do you feel the program was misrepresented to you? If so, how?



Absolutely.  I had no idea what methods and conditions I would be subjected to at Straight.  I thought it would be more like a two week vacation from my family, with trained staff, more like a detox or psychiatric facility, maybe like a juvenile detention center (none of which I had been in before Straight)

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7. Education: Did you get a good education while you were in the program? Did you have teachers who gave lectures or was it all self teaching?  Did you receive a high school diploma, or were you able to finish and get a diploma on time? Do you feel the education was adequate and helped you move on to college?

Are you kidding?  Education was non-existent at Straight---they considered it a way to "avoid yourself and your drug problem".  They had a pathetic excuse for a classroom where I was given reading assignments I could have done in first or second grade (I was 16-17 at the time, in my sophomore year of high school when I went in).  I got a HS diploma at an adult high school at night after I got out of Straight.  The "education" I received at Straight did absolutely nothing to help me, college preparation or otherwise.  A complete joke.



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8. How was the food? And the cleanliness of the place?

Worse than jails I have been in on both counts, although many of the "foster homes" (where we were locked in and treated as slaves) were cleaned by a continuous stream of slave labor.



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9. Were you abused? If so, how? How many times? By whom?

Yes, both by the program and it's methods and conditions, and by individual staff members and other clients at the direction of Staff.  The whole apparatus was a big abuse machine.  I was physically abused by staff on numerous occasions, ranging from being beaten and deprived of food and sleep, to hairpulling, to being spat on, to being psychologically abused, to being sat on, to being made to sit in my own feces after being denied the use of a bathroom.  I blame the staff members, particularly the executive staff, but I do blame the lower level staff, too.


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10. Did you witness others being abused? If so, what form of abuse and how often?

Yes, every day, in the manner described above, plus other ways involving humiliation, forced confessions, and physical deprivation or torture.


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11. Overall, was your experience positive or negative?

It was easily the worst experience of my life.


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12. If it was positive, please summarize your experience.

Not applicable


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13. If it was negative, please summarize your experience.


Thirteen months of hell, that scarred me more than I realized at the time.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2005, 05:08:00 PM
Thank you for responding. I am sorry for what you, and thousands of other teens and children, have had to go through at the hands of sick, power-hungry, and demented human beings. I wish there were a way that all of those injured could speak out to this country in a huge way. I know the reasons it doesn't happen, and it's a shame. I know that they try to make it seem like it's all the kids' faults. Of course it could never be the fault of the parents who lie and decieve their children. The very same children who are called manipulators. Who are the manipulators in these cases? I think it's obvious by your response. The parents who lied and deceived you and the program owners and operators who then abused you and others. Sick. I am truly sorry for your experience.

I would appreciate it if more of you would reply like this because I would like to prepare a survey of hundreds, if not thousands, of accounts such as these. Eventually, if I have enough, maybe, just maybe, someone will listen. I think it's worth a shot.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
Its not a bad idea. If you go around to some universities you may find a professor who will help you or sponsor you in this, and they could publish it for you too. Professors love stuff like this it shouldn't be too hard to pull of at all. Publishing stuff helps them get tenured and if you have a great idea and want to do all the work for them, I'm sure lots of them would jump at the opportunity. You should start going by and talking to people.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2005, 11:41:00 PM
Thank you for your response. I will give it a shot with the university as I think it's a great idea.

So everyone please take a few moments to answer the questionnaire. Who knows, it could make a difference. It's worth a shot and I'm willing to do the work.

Thanks again, it's each other working together that is going to make a difference. I'm convinced.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: bandit1978 on September 05, 2005, 03:46:00 AM
Okay, I'll start to try and answer.  You may reproduce what I write at any time, or quote me, or whatever.  

My parents sent me to Provo Canyon School when I was 14 years old- upon the recommendation of our pediatrician (the notorious Dr. Schwartz of northern VA).

Basically, I was just a smart ass who skipped a bit of 9th grade and really knew how to push my mothers buttons.  

I physically and voluntarily traveled to Utah with my father to enroll in the place.  I was young and from the suburbs and really didn't see any other choice.  Plus my mother was crazy.  

Turns out Provo Canyon School wasn't all that it said it was.  My mother had a personal shopper at Nordstrom round up some things like winter snow boots, jackets, things like that...and it turns out that I was not to be skiing down the mountains and snowmobiling, as she had thought I would be.  In fact, there was 1 corner window on the orientation unit (where I spent 3 months), and looking out of this window at any time was considered "run plans", a highly punishable offense.  Suprised my mother was when all of these things were sent home to her.  

But by then it was too late.  She had already signed me over, and wasn't gonna turn back now.  She ignored many of the "red flags" that people talk about now- the monitored communications, physical restrictions/methods of punishment, terrible food;  thing she hadn't thoroughly investigated before sending me there.  

Yes, I was too young to really understand what was going on there, too young to recognize abuse and too young to effectively advocate for myself and others.  I was scared, and the whole program the staff seemed so bizzare, I just went along with it.  

I saw lots of abuse...I could write a book about it.  What else do you want to know??

I'm 27yo now, have finished college, am RN, successful, BF an MD.  I live in a beautiful loft on Capital Hill (yes, that Capital Hill).  

I still suffer from symptoms of PTSD.  

My parents regret ever sending me there, said they are not medical professionals, and did not understand just how fucked up that place was, how ineffective and inhumane, and how badly it would hurt me.  

Any further info or anything you would like me to elaborate on?
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 04:02:00 AM
Re: the university thing.

Try speaking with Dr. Richard Ofshe of UC Berkeley, who is a specialist in cults, and ask him if he has ever done a study on behavior modification schools. I was just speaking about him in another thread, because I spoke with him years ago about the Synanon/CEDU connection.

He is very hard to get in touch with, however, because he is a very busy man.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 06:20:00 AM
Ok, I'll give it a crack.

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On 2005-08-27 18:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Seeking survivors



If you are survivor of a residential teen program and would like to take part in this survey, please answer the following questions:



1. Which program did you attend?

Rocky Mountain Academy (of the CEDU school network)

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2. How long were you in the program?

2 and a half years

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3. Why were you sent there?

I was a discipline problem. Getting in trouble at school, my parents were scared of me. Anger issues. I had attempted suicide twice. I had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. (A valid diagnosis, actually. I really do have bipolar disorder. But RMA certainly did nothing to address that. They weren't treating psychological disorders and dispensing medication when I went there. Probably to my benefit, since I heard there was a lot of overdiagnosis and misdiagnosis when it was going on.) I was also into wicca, and that scared my parents, but that is NOT a valid reason for sending someone away to school, but that's not the reason they sent me, that was only one extra thing that gave them pause. (But it was a stupid, prejudicial thing to be worried about.) I actually had a lot of real problems that had nothing to do with wicca. There was another kid who had been sent up there who was into wicca, too.

Oh yeah, I was a fag, too. That didn't help. I can't honestly say whether or not my parents were hoping that RMA would de-fagify me (although RMA sure tried) but they sure weren't happy at that time that their son was an out teenage fairy. They were much more concerned about my most recent suicide attempt and whether or not I would be successful the next time. But having me bouncing around school as an out queer didn't help my case.

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4. Did you feel your parents were justified in sending you away?

I'm not sure how to answer that question. I know I had serious problems. I wasn't just some kid who had smoked pot once for fun, or cut school for kicks, or was a simple rebellious teen, I actually had some serious problems. (Teens don't try to kill themselves for no reason.) But I honestly don't know what would have been the best solution. All things considered, I think I turned out OK, even though the school was screwed up. I'm not a parent, and I haven't been put in the position of having to deal with a troubled child, so I honestly can't understand what it is like.

My parents just wanted to find a place for me that was better than a hospital and putting me on lithium. This place seemed nice. It was out in the woods. You weren't locked up in rooms and put in restraints. You went on camping trips. All the kids looked happy and they looked you in the eye when they spoke to you. Which program would you have chosen? My parents also had no idea the kinds of things that went on up there. I was indoctrinated so quickly after I arrived, that I never mentioned to them the kinds of things I went through, because I didn't want to get pulled out and put in a worse place.

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5. How did you get there? Escort service pick you up in the middle of the night, or did you go willingly.

I went willingly, but under false pretenses. I was told that we were going up there to tour the campus for two days and visit the school. I had no idea I wasn't going to come back for two years! They had a back up plan and the escort service set up in case I decided to bolt or get uppity, however. (Upon advice from the school.) A lot of kids got up to school this way, actually.

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6. If you went willingly, do you feel the program was misrepresented to you? If so, how?

The program itself was not misrepresented, no. Mainly because my parents knew as much about the program as I did, really.

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7. Education: Did you get a good education while you were in the program? Did you have teachers who gave lectures or was it all self teaching?  Did you receive a high school diploma, or were you able to finish and get a diploma on time? Do you feel the education was adequate and helped you move on to college?

The academic education was mediocre, at best. Especially when I first got there. But we certainly got high school credits. We got credits up the yin yang. Raps were "interpersonal dynamic workshop" credits, wood corral was some sort of credit, wilderness expeditions were "experiential" credits. Just call them "bullshit" credits. We all complained about the quality of our academic education. It was so funny, because most of us hated school before we got there, but now that we were there, we actually missed having a decent education! As we got towards the upper school, our education got better, though, because they built a new academic building, and hired some new teachers, and the upper school families actually dedicated most of the daytime to academic classes, so I actually started to get some decent education towards the later part of my stay there, but nothing spectacular. We even got a computer lab and everything. (whoopdeefuckindoo.) I graduated with my high school diploma, (as did most of the kids when I was there) and did just fine grade-wise in college, but I don't credit RMA for that. I credit that to the fact that I'm smart.

Like I said, it was mediocre. My mom wasn't at all happy with the quality of the academic education that place had.

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8. How was the food? And the cleanliness of the place?

The food was actually very good and healthy. (except that it made you fart like crazy) It had to be, because we had to work very hard physically, and raps, propheets and workshops would take a lot out of you, because it was all about breaking you down as much as possible. If we got no nutrition, the kids would have just fallen apart. The students actually helped out in the kitchen, too. The place was kept pretty clean, since the students had to clean it constantly. (As clean as you can get wood, anyway, since every-fucking-thing there was made of wood.) Every single day we had to clean, and then on saturday, was a super-cleaning day. I wouldn't say the cleanliness standards were military-grade, because it's impossible to get wood that clean, but they liked to keep a tight ship.

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9. Were you abused? If so, how? How many times? By whom?

There was no physical abuse in the sense that there were no beatings or restraints. However, there was plenty of verbal abuse and humiliation. The very structure of "raps" (the group confrontational therapy meetings that we had three days a week for several hours) and the "propheets" (overnight workshops) involved lots of browbeating, airing of dirty, embarrassing secrets that were nobody's business, and faculty screaming at students. The raps were incredibly abusive, in my opinion. People just screamed like crazy at each other, and none more than the faculty. Some faculty had a reputation for being particularly sadistic, too. There was also regression therapy mixed in with primal scream (which was dubbed "running your anger"), something else they called "diads", and bizarre physical exercises done in the propheets and workshops, that involves things like shoving each other, punching cushions, being held down on the floor by your peer group, running in place to the point of exhaustion, excluduing two members in your peer group from a group circle and having them try to force their way in while everyone else tries to keep them out, biting down on a towel while pulling on the ends as hard as you can, and holding that position for two to three minutes. You know, stuff like that.

CEDU also bought out the copyright to use Lifespring as their final workshop. Lifespring is a now defunct white-collar cult which was popular in the early 90s. They had a five day workshop that cost several hundred dollars. Mel Wasserman made a deal with them that allowed him to use it at his school, so he bought the copyright, and added a day of his own stuff. He called it the Summit. That workshop was hideous. Dr. Phil does stuff from it now, (the extremely mild stuff) did you know that? He does the red/green game, and that whole bit about "are you a giver, or a taker?"

CEDU was all about breaking down resistance, both physically (through exhausting physical labor and bizarre "theraputic" exercises) and mentally, so they could make you more receptive to their own ideology.

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10. Did you witness others being abused? If so, what form of abuse and how often?

My peers went through the same things I did.

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11. Overall, was your experience positive or negative?

Mostly negative. Although I did come out in a better situation than I went in there, so I have to give RMA props for that. I graduated from there ready for college. And I have some good memories from the wilderness expeditions.

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12. If it was positive, please summarize your experience.

It is very hard to remember any positive things from there. (I don't really even care about any of my old friends from there.) Mostly I remember the scenery. It's in a nice part of the country. I liked rock climbing, and skiing. I remember seeing a really wicked sunset on my Wilderness Quest that I have a slide of. The nicest memory I think I have from RMA is from my solo on my Wilderness Challenge. (We went to the Owyhee desert in southern Idaho.) I just remember that for four wonderful days, I was in this beautiful canyon, and I didn't have to talk to anyone from my peer group, or speak to any faculty from the school, or listen to anybody's crap, and I could get up when I wanted, and go to bed when I wanted, and nobody screamed at me, and I wasn't at that horrid school, and I didn't have to hike anywhere or carry my pack, and it was quiet and wonderful. I just sat around, ate my trail mix, and wrote stupid silly naive things in my journal that make me laugh now when I think about it. I was so sad when those four days were over and I had to go back and deal with all of those assholes again.

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13. If it was negative, please summarize your experience.


It was extremely disturbing and alienating. I think I covered most of this in the "abuse" section, though. However, when I was there, I was totally brainwashed, and thought the program was great. But I was of two minds. I was terrified of being sent anywhere else and totally wanted to be at that school, yet I was constantly tormented mentally and was always struggling and paranoid. Every rap day was a day filled with anxiety. The physical labor wasn't shit compared to the mental crap I had to go through. It just wasn't normal.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 06:25:00 AM
Uh, to specify on question 6. My parents knew about as much as I did about the program, which was next to nothing. So in a sense, the inner workings of the program were misrepresented to both of us, but my parents did not misrepresent the program to me, which was what I was trying to say.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 10:19:00 AM
Anon,


I aspprteiate your kindness and empathy toward surviors ofthe abusive schools in the Teen Help Industry.

As a parent who was decieved and lied to,I resent your implication parents deliberty hurt their children. That is not always the case.

Until you have walked the long journey and have been a parent whose child was in need of intervention, please don't judge harshly.

I know our truth.  It wasnt as you make it seems.

Put the energy in shutting down or overhauling the industry.

There may be parents who use schools as a dumping ground. I never met any. We did get brain washed .That's  a fact. I didnt realize it at the time.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE: Try speaking with Dr. Richard Ofshe of UC Berkeley, who is a specialist in cults, and ask him if he has ever done a study on behavior modification schools. I was just speaking about him in another thread, because I spoke with him years ago about the Synanon/CEDU connection.

He is very hard to get in touch with, however, because he is a very busy man.

Thank you for this information. I will try contacting him this week. I am happy to see others responding and hope that we can make this a survey of hundreds, if not thousands, of survivors.

I do believe this will have an impact, so thank you and keep them coming.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
QUOTE:

I aspprteiate your kindness and empathy toward surviors ofthe abusive schools in the Teen Help Industry.

As a parent who was decieved and lied to,I resent your implication parents deliberty hurt their children. That is not always the case.

Until you have walked the long journey and have been a parent whose child was in need of intervention, please don't judge harshly.

I know our truth. It wasnt as you make it seems.

Put the energy in shutting down or overhauling the industry.

There may be parents who use schools as a dumping ground. I never met any. We did get brain washed .That's a fact. I didnt realize it at the time.

Dear Parent:

I am the one who began this thread and who is planning on putting together this survey. I understand that many parents have been not only fooled into believing these programs will help their children dramatically, but who were then brainwashed and taken for a ride financially. It has devestated families financially and emotionally and I feel for you.

Please, others who read and post here, please understand that yes, some parents are sending their children to these programs for the wrong reasons ... we all know that.

But please remember that literally thousands of parents have felt they were either at their wits' end or they wanted to do something that would help their child who, in their eyes, was straying and going down the wrong path.

Our children are, for the most part, the most important thing in our lives, as parents, and we want to do whatever we can to make them safe and whole. I am not a  parent who sent a child to a program but I have spoken to many parents who did. I have heard them as they agonize over what has happened to their children. They were conned, for lack of a better word. into sending children who really did not need to go.

I try to equate it to parents who send kids to boarding school, for whatever their reasons, or fat camp (if it's what the child wants), diabetes camp, anything to better the lives of their children. They send them there because they feel it will benefit their child. They do not think that these people are going to abuse their children.

I just can't imagine that parents, as a whole, are going to spend $45,000 to $90,000 and more to send their child away to be abused. That just doesn't make logical sense. Yes, there are those parents who want to simply get rid of a problem child, but I think they are far and few between.

So please, if a parent tells you they were brainwashed and they have regrets for sending their child away, please understand the agony they are living with on a daily basis. I can't imagine that reality - knowing I sent my child to a place and he/she was abused there.

Thank you for listening. I support the children who were abused and the parents who have regrets for sending them there.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Antigen on September 05, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
I think it's not out of line to equate the troubled parent industry w/ any other quack medicine. How many times a week do you get email promising you a bigger dick, narrower waistline, fuller head of hair or eternal youth? Do you believe them? Ever tempted to believe them? Wish it were possible but know that it's not?

Well, let me tell you, aging is not much fun. In fact, it can be downright distressing. So is raising kids, especially when they first start to leave the nest and you're just damned sure they're going to fall out of the sky and go splatt on the ground. In fact, I'd say being the parent of a young adult is even more uncomfortable, bewildering and confusing at times than having been a teenager.

The industry thrives on this fairly common, natural though disturbing phase of family life by promising a god in a bottle cure for it. Of course, there is no cure; it's just not within the realm of possibility. When people are desperate, they'll gamble. And gamble they do.

But there isn't really any magical new technology to make it easier or to ensure a safe transit from childhood to adulthood. There's no better way to raise kids than the way we've been doing it for some thousands of years.

We teach them what to do and what not to do by example. That's all we can do. It's up to them to decide if, when and how to emulate our good traits and to reject the bad ones. You just can't do this for them. Not saying only that it would be wrong and a mistake, but that it simply cannot be done. Growing up is something we do on our own, virtually alone in many ways. It simply cannot be done to us or for us. Not any more than physically putting someone's body through the motions of running will result in strong muscles and cardio/vascular good health.

America when will you be angelic
When will you take off your clothes....
America after all it is you and I who are perfect
Not the next world.
--Allen Ginsberg

Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 07:24:00 PM
You've got that right, Ginger. Parenting a teen is distressing even under the best of conditions. And yes, you feel like they are going to do something crazy no matter how well you've taught them. But like you said, the bottom line is they need to take the good, reject the bad, and start to make their own life decisions. It is when that happens that we as parents have done our job. We just can't make them become good adults. It is something they have to want and desire.

I am the parent of a teen and a young adult so I've been there. Mine are relatively good and were quite easy to raise, for the most part. But I get a lump in my throat and sick to my stomach when one of them decides they're going to go on a road trip, for example. Especially when they want to go with a friend. Just having read that kids who ride in cars with other kids have far more chances of dying in a car accident didn't help matters.

But all in all it comes down to trust for our kids. Trusting that they have learned enough from us and that they have the foresight to do what is right. I remember how good it felt to hear from friends and my mother that they saw my youngest driving around town and that he seemed like a conscienscious driver. I still worry when he gets in the car, but I try to have faith that all that we taught him will help him through life. I know there are things beyond our control and that accidents do happen. I just hope that at least on his part he does the right things. Not only in driving a car, but in the major life decisions that are coming down the pike.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 05, 2005, 11:48:00 PM
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On 2005-09-05 07:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anon,





I aspprteiate your kindness and empathy toward surviors ofthe abusive schools in the Teen Help Industry.



As a parent who was decieved and lied to,I resent your implication parents deliberty hurt their children. That is not always the case.



Until you have walked the long journey and have been a parent whose child was in need of intervention, please don't judge harshly.



I know our truth.  It wasnt as you make it seems.



Put the energy in shutting down or overhauling the industry.



There may be parents who use schools as a dumping ground. I never met any. We did get brain washed .That's  a fact. I didnt realize it at the time."


Which anon are you speaking to?
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 12:08:00 AM
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On 2005-09-05 08:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"QUOTE: Try speaking with Dr. Richard Ofshe of UC Berkeley, who is a specialist in cults, and ask him if he has ever done a study on behavior modification schools. I was just speaking about him in another thread, because I spoke with him years ago about the Synanon/CEDU connection.



He is very hard to get in touch with, however, because he is a very busy man.



Thank you for this information. I will try contacting him this week. I am happy to see others responding and hope that we can make this a survey of hundreds, if not thousands, of survivors.



I do believe this will have an impact, so thank you and keep them coming."


Let me know if you manage to get in touch with him and if so, what he thinks about the whole behavior mod industry. I'd be interested to hear his take on it.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
QUOTE: Let me know if you manage to get in touch with him and if so, what he thinks about the whole behavior mod industry. I'd be interested to hear his take on it.

I will let you know once I'm able to reach him.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Watchaduen on September 06, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
I will answer this for my son.  He was abused and tortured at Bethel Boys academy aka Eagle Point Christian Academy (which is now WWASP affiliated)

1. Which program did you attend?
Bethel Boys Academy, Lucedale, MS.

2. How long were you in the program?
 3 1/2 days

3. Why were you sent there?
My parents felt I was heading down the wrong path, tried pot, started hanging with what they considered the wrong crowd, grades were going steadily down.

4. Did you feel your parents were justified in sending you away?
 Yes, I was willing to go.  They discussed with me where I was going, whom they had talked to, what help I would receive.  My Dad also drove me down there and stated we would tour the place together and make a decision.

5. How did you get there? Escort service pick you up in the middle of the night, or did you go willingly.
See answer above

6. If you went willingly, do you feel the program was misrepresented to you? If so, how?
Within 10 minutes of my Dad driving off of the compound I thought I was being taken to my bunk.  Instead I was taken to an empty barracks where four grown men (i.e. drill instructors) were waiting for me.  They beat me for a half hour.  Shaved my head and deliberately sliced my head up with a razor - which would happen every two days.  More deliberate cuts all over your head.  I was regularly beaten, torture performed on me and others for no reason.  Starved, deprived of sleep, water and the right to go to the bathroom.

7. Education: Did you get a good education while you were in the program?
No school at all.  Most didn't get to attend school.  Spent our days performing labor for the Fountain family.

 Did you have teachers who gave lectures or was it all self teaching?
The kids that did get to go only did for an hour or two a day.  It was all self teaching out of elementary school workbooks.

 Did you receive a high school diploma, or were you able to finish and get a diploma on time? Do you feel the education was adequate and helped you move on to college?
I don't believe anyone leaves that hell hole with any kind of education whatsoever.

8. How was the food? And the cleanliness of the place?
What little we did get to eat was horrible.  You were constantly hungry.  One small dixie cup of water was all you got to drink.  No breakfeast for the few days I was there.  Many kids come out of there severely dehydrated.  A few have needed hospitalization.  You can't give a kid 500 calories a day, force them to exert 5500 calories a day and not walk away unharmed.  According to the Attorney General's office plenty of kids come out of there with renal failure.  We all know what causes that.  Extreme dehydration on top of being slugged repeatedly in the kidneys.

9. Were you abused? If so, how? How many times? By whom?
YES, beaten plenty of times by the drill instructors.  One of the tortures they performed on me was the drill instructor informed the older students to hold me down.  They forced my mouth open and filled it full of toothpaste.  While they held me down the drill instructor stood over me and slowly filled my nostrils with water.  I thought I was going to die.  I couldn't breath.  I also witnessed constant beatings.  When the drill instructors started unscrewing the video camera lense you knew someone was going to be beaten.  It was worse watching someone else be beaten and to hear their screams, knowing you could do nothing to help them.  

10. Did you witness others being abused? If so, what form of abuse and how often?
See above question.  It was an all day occurance. I watched a kid get slugged in the face so hard he flew against the wall behind him.  He curled up into a ball just sobbing.  His face was still black and blue when the state came in and removed him and 12 other victims.

11. Overall, was your experience positive or negative?
NEGATIVE, my family honestly didn't know these types of places even existed.  Not in the U.S.

12. If it was positive, please summarize your experience.

13. If it was negative, please summarize your experience.
My Mom and Dad have gotten together with other victims from that place and we have filed our first lawsuit.  It has 19 plaintiffs on it.  We also filed in Federal Court to get out of the corrupt George County where this place is located.  There are more lawsuits coming.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 01:01:00 AM
Here are some things I found on Fornits re Richard Ofshe:

1. Way back Richard Ofshe writing in The Light on Synanon wrote that it is almost impossible to put into words the raw emotions that one is placed through while participating in a Synanon Game. And he knew first-hand becasue he has played the Game at Synnaon personally. I want to say that it is impossible for an outsider to realize the shear terror that each and everyone of you kids went through at the Straights. I want to add that I persoanally can feel it, but only slightly, because like any parent I was Gamed by my peers on Monday and Friday nights and also I was Gamed especially harshly at Parents Weekend because I had brought up previously at the compound one Monday night what I had learned about abuses you kids were sustaining.

2. Mitchell, Dave, Mitchell, Cathy, and Ofshe, Richard, THE LIGHT ON SYNANON, Seaview Books, N.Y., 1980.

3. re: Freud fan. I didn't read the original German, but I did read translations. It still didn't impress me. It's still pseudoscience.

If you are interested in having your views challenged, check out "Therapy's Delusions" by Ofshe and Watters

4. Critics like Richard Ofshe have claimed that RMT patients are frequently assigned to self-helf groups which are often used to re-affirm their belief system, and that these grow into a replacement "family" (because the original family is believed to have been responsible for severe abuse). While the goal of WWASP is to ultimately return children to their families, for the period of their stay, students will have to accept staff as their family. The WWASP "therapy" sessions, too, have the goal of re-affirming the WWASP ideology and the belief of students in their mistakes (with denial being punished, sometimes physically).

5. Richard Ofshe and Margaret T. Singer, The Cultic Studies Journal, Vol. 3 #1, Spring/Summer 1986; American Family Foundation, P.O. Box 1232, Gracie Station, New York, NY 10028 (212) 533-0538

6. http://www.refocus.org/mental.html (http://www.refocus.org/mental.html)

Thought Reform Programs and the Production of Psychiatric Casualties
Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D., Richard Ofshe, Ph. D.
Psychiatric Annals 20:4, April, 1990

"...Psychiatric casualties appear to result from errors in the application of these attitude-change programs. The subject person's motivation to adopt the manipulator's position and to become obedient is manufactured by inducing extreme anxiety and emotional distress. Lifton reported that the managers of first-generation programs attempted to closely monitor subjects so that when they reached the brink of decompensation, pressures could be reduced. The goal was to hold the subject at the point of maximum stress without inducing psychosis. Second-generation programs have increased room for error because subjects tend to be less well monitored, the techniques used to induce anxiety and stress are more powerful and less predictable in the magnitude of their effects on an individual, and often these programs attempt to induce conformity more rapidly than did first-generation programs....."

7. And then, for comparison, see [SYNANON is referenced]
http://www.heart7.net/thought-reforming-techniques.html (http://www.heart7.net/thought-reforming-techniques.html)
Attacks on Peripheral versus Central Elements of Self
and the Impact of Thought Reforming Techniques
(c) The Cultic Studies Journal, Vol 3, N°1, 1986
(c) by Richard Ofshe, Ph.D. and Margaret T. Singer, Pb.D.

8.  Thought Reform Programs and the Production of Psychiatric Casualties
Psychiatric Annals 20:4/April 1990
By Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D. and Richard Ofshe, Ph. D.

The term "thought reform" was introduced into the psychiatric literature by Lifton and the term "coercive persuasion"' by Schein. Both described the organized "ideological remolding" programs introduced by the Chinese Communists after their 1949 takeover. Thought reform programs were used in the "revolutionary universities," other educational settings, and prison environments. Lifton, Schein, and other authors wrote about psychological effects in military and civilian prisoners. as well as in individuals exposed to thought reform programs in non-prison settings. These authors called attention to the manipulation processes that had been organized into effective psychological and social influence programs aimed at changing the political beliefs of individuals.

As early as 1929, Mao Tse-tung was waging a "thought struggle" to achieve unity and discipline in the Chinese Communist Party. Following the proclamation of the People's Republic of China in 1949, hundreds or thousands were exposed to thought reform programs to achieve "ideological remolding." "Group struggle sessions" convinced individuals to denounce their past political views and to adopt the new state-approved political outlook.

Neither mysterious methods nor arcane new techniques were involved; the effectiveness of thought reform programs did not depend on prison settings, physical abuse, or death threats. Programs used the organization and application of intense guilt/shame/anxiety manipulation, combined with the production of strong emotional arousal in settings where people did not leave because of social and psychological pressures or because of enforced confinement. The pressures could be reduced only by participants' accepting the belief system or adopting behaviors promulgated by the purveyors of the thought reform programs.

History of thought reform programs
There have been two generations of interest in extreme influence and control programs. The first generation of interest was in Soviet and Chinese thought reform and behavior control practices that were studied 20 to 30 years ago. The second generation of interest is in thought reform programs either currently operating or that have been in existence during the last decade in the United States and the Western world.

Far more of these programs exist than most non-specialists realize, and these newer programs are more efficient and effective. They also may be more psychologically risky for individuals exposed to them than research suggests first-generation programs to have been. Second-generation programs use influence techniques long recognized as essential elements of thought reform programs, as well as a variety of new influence techniques. Such programs can and regularly do produce psychiatric casualties.

Psychiatric casualties appear to result from errors in the application of these attitude-change programs. The subject person's motivation to adopt the manipulator's position and to become obedient is manufactured by inducing extreme anxiety and emotional distress. Lifton reported that the managers of first-generation programs attempted to closely monitor subjects so that when they reached the brink of decompensation, pressures could be reduced. The goal was to hold the subject at the point of maximum stress without inducing psychosis. Second-generation programs have increased room for error because subjects tend to be less well monitored, the techniques used to induce anxiety and stress are more powerful and less predictable in the magnitude of their effects on an individual, and often these programs attempt to induce conformity more rapidly than did first-generation programs.

Second-generation thought reform programs also pose psychological risks to subjects because of the sophistication of the influence tactics employed. Attacking a person's evaluation of the self is a technique present in both older and newer programs. However, in first-generation programs, primary attack was made on the political aspects of an individual's self-concept -- a peripheral aspect of most people's sense of self .

In the newer thought reform programs, attacks appear to be designed to destabilize the subject's most central aspects of the experience of the self. The newer programs undermine a person's basic consciousness, reality awareness, beliefs and world view, emotional control, and defense mechanisms. We suggest that attacking the stability and quality of evaluations of self-concepts is the principal effective technique used in the conduct of a coercive thought reform and behavior control program.

Second-generation programs induce changes in expressed behavior and attitudes much as the earlier versions did by manipulating psychological and social influence variables within a format that generally follows a symbolic death and rebirth theme. Second-generation programs often include techniques similar to those found in first-generation programs, e.g., group pressure, modeling, accusations, and confessions. Additional sophisticated techniques to destabilize a person's sense of self and to induce anxiety and emotional distress are also employed. Second-generation programs often incorporate technical advances in influence production, such as hypnosis to intensify recalled or imagined experiences, emotional flooding, sleep deprivation, stripping away of various psychological defense mechanisms, and the induction of cognitive confusion. Second-generation programs are illustrated by certain cults, in therapeutic communities gone astray, and in some large-group awareness programs.

What is a thought reform program?
In essence, a thought reform program is a behavioral change technology applied to cause the learning and adoption of an ideology or set of behaviors under conditions. It is distinguished from other forms of social learning by the conditions under which it is conducted and by the techniques of environmental and interpersonal manipulation employed to suppress particular behavior and to train others .

Six conditions are simultaneously present in a thought reform program:

obtaining substantial control over an individual's time and thought content, typically by gaining control over major elements of the person's social and physical environment,

systematically creating a sense of powerlessness in the person,

manipulating a system of rewards, punishment. and experiences in such a way as to promote new learning of an ideology or belief system advocated by management,

manipulating a system of rewards, punishments, and experiences in such a way as to inhibit observable behavior that reflects the values and routines of life organization the individual displayed prior to contact with the group,

maintaining a closed system of logic and an authoritarian structure in the organization and

maintaining a non-informed state existing in the subject.
The last two conditions work because there is no effective way for the subject to influence the system and because the program moves along in such a way that the subject is unaware of being changed for a hidden organizational purpose. In a closed system of logic, criticism or complaints are handled by showing the subject that he or she is defective, not the organization. Observations may be turned around and argued to mean the opposite of what the critic intended. When a subject questions or doubts a tenet or rule, attention is called to factual information that suggests some internal contradiction within the belief system or a contradiction with what the subject has been told: the criticism or observation is "turned around" and the subject made to feel he or she is wrong. In effect the subject is told, "You are always wrong; the system is always right." The system refuses to be modified except by executive order. In addition, by keeping a subject in a non-informed state, he or she functions in an environment to which he or she is forced to adapt in a series of steps, each sufficiently minor so that the subject does not notice change in him- or herself and does not become aware of the goals of the program until late in the process (if ever).

The tactics of a thought reform program are organized lo destabilize individuals' sense of self by getting them to drastically reinterpret their life's history, radically alter their world view, accept a new version of reality and causality, and develop dependency on the organization, thereby being turned into a deployable agent of the organization operating the thought reform program.

Types of psychological responses
Not everyone who is exposed to a thought reform system is successfully manipulated nor does everyone respond with major reactive symptoms. Some authors described the psychological responses and casualties seen in the first-generation groups. No definitive figures about casualty rates for second-generation programs can be offered. However, scattered anecdotal reports in the psychiatric literature, the number of people seeking treatment, counseling, and other forms of help after leaving thought reform programs, and the growing number of persons seeking compensation for damages through litigation suggests that many experience different degrees and durations of distress, disability, and dysfunction following such programs.

Actual rates of damage may be far higher than estimations made from the sources cited above. The sole experimental study of the destructive potential of encounter groups reports psychological casualty rates higher than 10% for those groups that use intrusive and high confrontation techniques with aggressive leaders. These damaging techniques have much in common with the destabilizing techniques of second-generation programs. The full range of personality and situational factors that predispose individuals to become psychological casualties are not known at this time.

Second-generation thought reform programs expose participants to exercises and experiences that disrupt psychological defense systems, causing some individuals to be flooded with emotions and others to dissociate and split off parts of their awareness. Psychological decompensations and the onset of other symptoms appear related to the combined effects of features described earlier, especially to rapid, intense arousal of aversive emotional states and to dissociation-producing techniques.

The analysis presented here is based on observations made since 1972 with over 3,000 people who have been exposed to thought reform programs in three types of closed restrictive groups: certain cults, some therapeutic communities, and certain large-group awareness trainings. At a surface level, these groups seem to be a varied lot. From the descriptions we have secured from people who participated in groups carrying out programs that met criteria for a thought reform program, we have begun to identify types of psychological responses. This work is in progress, and the following is an overview of our results to date.

At this point in our research we class the various thought reform programs into two main groupings that reflect the most characteristic negative psychological effects observed. The first cluster consists of those groups whose main effects are the product of intense aversive emotional arousal states: the second cluster is comprised of groups relying more on the use of meditation, trance states, and dissociative techniques. The thought reform systems we have studied tend to use a variety of techniques and do not restrict themselves to only one or the other of our major categories.

A program relying heavily on meditation, trance, and dissociation techniques is likely to include elements of intense emotional arousal devices; the reverse also is true. Some of the most intense emotional arousal responses can be produced by guided imagery and other trance-inducing procedures. In our preliminary classification of thought reform techniques, we have used the division of "primarily emotional arousal" or "primarily dissociative" as our major division.

Our interviewees (all of whom were reporting some form of distress) were divided into six groups according to their responses after leaving the program. The first and largest group is the majority reaction group, and the remaining five groups are the induced psychopathologies.

The majority reaction
Degrees of anomie. The majority reaction seen in people who leave thought reform programs, almost regardless of the time spent with the group, is a varying degree of anomie -- a sense of alienation and confusion resulting from the loss or weakening of previously valued norms, ideals, or goals. When the person leaves the group and returns to broader society, culture shock and anxiety usually result from the theories learned in the group and the need to reconcile situational demands, values, and memories in three eras -- the past prior to the group, the time in the group, and the present situation.

The person feels like an immigrant or refugee who enters a new culture. However, the person is reentering his or her former culture, bringing along a series of experiences and beliefs from the group with which he or she had affiliated that conflict with norms and expectations. Unlike the immigrant confronting merely novel situations, the returnee is confronting a rejected society. Thus, most people leaving a thought reform program have a period in which they need to put together the split or doubled self they maintained while they were in the group and come to terms with their pre-group sense of self.

Induced psychopathologies
Reactive schizo affective-like psychoses. These occur in individuals with no prior history of mental disorder and from families free of such history, as well as in individuals with no prior history of mental disorder, but whose families have members with affective disorders.

These psychotic episodes vary in length from days to nearly a year's duration, with most ranging from 1 to 5 months. The decompensation typically occurs in immediate response to a peak stress-inducing experience. Strong affective components, mostly of a hypomanic or manic quality, are noted near and after the decompensation. These components appear related to the behavior modeled in the group and to attitudes advocated by the group. Certain programs appear to interact with personal histories and situational properties of the group to produce depressive reactions.

Posttraumatic stress disorders. This type of disorder is described in section 309.89 of the DSM-III-R.

Atypical dissociative disorders. This type of disorder is described in section 300.15 of the DSM-III-R.

Relaxation-induced anxiety. This is a type of atypical anxiety if one uses DSM-III-R classification, but is best described in the recently growing reports appearing in research literature.

Miscellaneous reactions. These include anxiety combined with cognitive inefficiencies, such as difficulty in concentration, inability to focus and maintain attention, and impaired memory (especially short-term); self-mutilation; phobias; suicide and homicide; and psychological factors affecting physical conditions (described in section 316.00 of the DSM-III-R) such as strokes, myocardial infarctions, unexpected deaths, recurrence of peptic ulcers, asthma, etc.

Case Examples
Both of the following cases illustrate the production of psychiatric casualties in individuals exposed to thought reform programs. Neither individual described below had a history of personal or family mental disorder.

Kirk illustrates the splitting or doubling of the self that occurs when one drops an ordinary world view and accepts the alternative world view trained through exposure to a thought reform program. Professionals who treated Kirk diagnosed his condition as relaxation-induced anxiety that evolved into panic attacks and atypical dissociative states.

He affiliated with a mantra meditation group, initially attempting to "empty the mind" of all reflective thoughts for a few minutes each morning and evening. The mantra, supposedly a meaningless word, is the Sanskrit name of a Hindu deity.

Kirk has an advanced degree in a physical science from a prestigious university. A friend took him to a free lecture on how to reduce stress in one's life. Kirk was not stressed, but responded favorably to the lecturer's charts and graphs alleging scientific proof that meditation was accomplishing feats unknown to mankind -- except through the group leader's methods. Because of its seemingly scientific basis, Kirk paid his fees and began meditation lessons. These lessons began with short periods of meditation, which soon lengthened and were combined with prolonged periods of chanting and hyperventilation.

After a few months he began to have bouts of chest pains, fainting spells, palpitations, and lassitude. When he complained at the meditation center of his symptoms, he was assured these were normal signs of "unstressing" and evidence that he was reaching a higher state of consciousness. Hence, Kirk discounted his distress, accepting it as the price he had to pay to reach the leader's promised goal. Had Kirk not been following the meditation practice with simultaneous involvement with the group, he probably would have abandoned the practice as soon as he started having these adverse reactions.

During one panic attack, he was taken to an emergency room where a physician attributed his condition to "stress and pressure." He stopped meditating for a few days, and the symptoms disappeared. However, the group instructed him to increase the time he chanted, hyperventilated, and meditated. Over the years his condition worsened. Panic attacks continued; he reported he felt "spaced out" and forgetful, and he began to let his career, social life, and intellectual development decline. Upon advice from the group leader, to help his deteriorating condition, he frequently spent 8 hours a day for an entire week, chanting, hyperventilating, and meditating. He spent several individual months on such a regime.

His distress increased. He was markedly dizzy and objects seemed swirl, float, and waver in the air. He felt nauseous, disoriented, distraught and confused. At work he began to lose confidence in his abilities and worried that he had slipped into insanity.

He soon found himself unable to focus on his surroundings: when he did, things appeared distorted, obscure, and foreign. He felt overwhelmed by anxiety, depression, nausea, and debilitation. He took a week off from work and sat crying in his apartment in an apparent state of depersonalization and derealization, accompanied by a multitude of odd sensations and mental contents. He visited several general practitioners who could not diagnose his symptoms.

One day while driving he lost his memory. He was unable to recall who he was or where he was going. He parked and went into a restaurant. When he left, it took him 2 hours to find his car because he had forgotten where he had parked.

Soon after this transient but alarming amnesic episode, he resigned from his job because he could no longer instruct workers as part of his technical job. When he had to speak he felt faint, lost track of what he was saying, and was unable to function.

Beverly, now 27, was in a cult from ages 15 to 24. For 2 years after leaving the cult, she was too frightened to seek help or tell anyone what had happened during the years she was in the group. Finally, she saw a psychologist over a prolonged period. Initial symptoms were severe depression., anxiety, multiple phobias and identity diffusion. As her story unfolded during therapy, a diagnosis of posttraumatic stress disorder was made. The following is abstracted from a report written by her therapist.

The group Beverly joined was started by an immigrant who conferred upon himself the titles of guru, yogi and teacher after reaching the United States. He began to collect a small following by advertising himself as an exercise and diet specialist.

A relative of Beverly's had lived for some time in the commune he developed. The relative asked I 5-year-old Beverly to spend the summer in the commune; she remained in the commune for 9 years. Beverly was an easy mark for the leader and his assistants to completely dominate. His indoctrination and influence program led her to believe all his claims, that he was the most learned man alive, that he knew hidden health and living secrets which he would reveal to her. The group preached bizarre and ever-changing diets. Beverly came to think the leader was omniscient, omni-present and omnipotent. He treated her as his protégé, subjecting her to endless sessions of indoctrination and withdrawing alternative sources of social support until she became totally dependent on him.

She believed that he knew all the secrets of the universe. She believed that he held the power of life and death over her and her family because he claimed that he was above the law and that he could order the execution of anyone who displeased him. He repeatedly stated that I he would have her and her family put to death if she ever left him. Eventually when she did attempt to leave after almost 9 years. he put her under armed guard and prevented her from leaving.

The most traumatic episodes with the leader began after Beverly had been in the group several years. He told her that he was going to cure her of what he termed her sexual neurosis. He proceeded to rape her while she was held down. After this event, she became stunned, depressed, withdrawn and suicidal for nearly 3 years, she was anally and genitally raped repeatedly and given gratuitous brutal beatings by the leader. She became pregnant twice: each time he leader ordered her to have an abortion. Hours after undergoing one of the abortions, he raped her.

Beverly eventually ceased to regard him as divine after she developed herpes and chronic kidney and bladder infections; she saw him only as a violent, brutal rapist. At this point, the leader assigned armed guards to restrain her from escaping. She remained virtual prisoner for over a year.

She finally escaped several years ago, still believing the leader or his helper would find and kill her and her parents. This fear continues.

Beverly has a driving phobia. This appears related to the leader telling her that if she ever left him she would die in an automobile crash. After a year of treatment, she is able lo drive short distances, but only at the expense of considerable anxiety.

Beverly becomes excruciatingly anxious over what she calls "flashbacks." She vividly re-experiences how she felt when she had to sit for endless hours listening to the rambling, nonsensical lectures given by the leader. During those lectures she resented having to sit for so long yet she was unable to move or leave. She feared that the leader had magical powers and that it she incurred his disfavor, she would come to harm or even die as he claimed happened to those who defied him. Because of these negative associations with prolonged sitting, she has been unable to attend classes, church services, or similar events. Thus, her educational level remains as it was at age 15 when she entered the cult.

She has panic attacks with agoraphobia in which she has to abandon whatever she is doing and return to her apartment to feel safe. These attacks have prevented her from maintaining employment and reliably enjoying recreational activities. She has an ever-present free-floating sense of foreboding and dread.

Beverly has trouble going to sleep as fearful images of the leader intrude, arousing fear. When she does sleep she has nightmares involving his attacks on her. She sleeps fully dressed because she fears she may have to flee the leader's guards. This is not without foundation as such happened before she escaped from the commune. Her numbed, stunned state seen at the start of therapy has declined, but the rest of the posttraumatic stress syndrome remains. She feels her life is ruined and suffers generalized anhedonia.

Summary
The techniques used to induce belief, change, and dependency by various thought reform programs appear to be related to the type of psychiatric casualty the program tends to produce. Large group awareness training programs appear more likely to induce mood and affect disorders. Groups that use prolonged mantra and empty-mind meditation, hyperventilation, and chanting appear more likely to have participants who develop relaxation-induced anxiety, panic disorder, marked dissociative problems, and cognitive inefficiencies.

Therapeutic community thought reform programs appear more likely to induce enduring fears, self-mutilation, self-abasement, and inappropriate display of artificial assertiveness and emotionality.

Many people subjected to thought reform programs of sufficient duration report transient to longer lasting cognitive inefficiencies with impaired concentration, attention, and memory. Most are self-reported observations; others come from family and friends who note the inefficiencies either were not present prior to the thought reform program or are exacerbations of preexisting tendencies.

There is an interactional-transactional interplay between a program's philosophical contents, exercises, and practices, and each person exposed to it. The thought reform program impinges on cognition, defenses, affects, values, and conduct. Additionally, each person's genetic-biological make-up, life experiences, personality, and mental make-up interact with the stressors induced by the interface of the person's old value, belief, and behavior codes with the new beliefs and behavior promulgated by the program.

Prediction of any one person=s responses to any one thought reform regime is difficult, if not impossible. However, as with all stressful, conflict-inducing, and intense negative emotionally arousing situations, certain forms of behavioral pathology are more likely than other types to occur among individuals exposed to certain combinations of stressors.

Dr. Singer is Adjunct Professor, Department of Psychology, University of California, Berkeley.

Dr. Ofshe is Professor, Department of Sociology, University of California, Berkeley.

This article was presented as the Virginia Tarlow Memorial Lecture, Northwestern University Medical School, Chicago, Illinois, June 1987.

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9.  It's more than possible that this kid talking to his mom would undermine the program. In fact, it's extremely likely that any outside influence would undermine the program. That's why they don't allow it. The Program only "works" if they can isolate the new inductee. See Thought Reform Programs and the Production of Psychiatric Casualties Psychiatric Annals 20:4/April 1990 By Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D. and Richard Ofshe, Ph. D. for more info.

10. I also remember talking with someone at the Cult Awareness Network who told me about the connection years ago, and this was when I had first heard about it, and had begun my searching. (This was before the C.A.N. got taken over by the Scientologists, back when they were actually a legitamite organization.) But when I spoke with Richard Ofshe, (a professer at UC Berkeley, an expert in cults, and someone who is very familiar with Synanon, and who also knows of CEDU and Mel) he was unaware of any connection.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 01:04:00 AM
QUOTE: 1. Way back Richard Ofshe writing in The Light on Synanon wrote that it is almost impossible to put into words the raw emotions that one is placed through while participating in a Synanon Game. And he knew first-hand becasue he has played the Game at Synnaon personally.

..... meaning he, Richard Ofshe, experienced Synanon himself? I wonder in what capacity he played the game at Synanon - a survivor, staffer, parent? Anyone know the answer to this?
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 07:15:00 AM
Damn, reading my CEDU/RMA questionaire compared to the other questionare responses... RMA was a fucking walk in the park. I got to go skiing, camping, rock climbing. I got good food, and a mediocre, but decent education. Shit man, it was like a fucking retreat compared to some of these other places. Nothing like getting a little perspective once in a while.

It really pisses me off to know that kids have to go through this kind of horrible abuse. i.e. beatings, little or no food, dehydration, humiliation. And the fact that people make money off of this is even more disgusting.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
Thank you, everyone, for helping by providing facts. We need more, lots more. I urge everyone who had a negative experience at a residential youth program to speak their minds here so that voices can be heard in a larger way.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Nonconformistlaw on September 06, 2005, 12:25:00 PM
1. Which program did you attend?

ANSWER: Straight, Inc.

2. How long were you in the program?

ANSWER: 1 year, and 3 1/2 months; 4 1/2 months aftercare = 1 year and 8 months total

3. Why were you sent there?

ANSWER: Damn good question--I never tried drugs prior, rarely touched alcohol, never became sexually active, etc. I did have unresolved issues with parents divorce and separation from mother, so I guess the concerns were about my bad attitude, rebelliousness, occasional skipping school (that had been addressed and corrected), grades were slipping a bit (undiagnosed ADD)

4. Did you feel your parents were justified in sending you away?

ANSWER: NO!

5. How did you get there? Escort service pick you up in the middle of the night, or did you go willingly.

ANSWER: Willingly, but only because my parents completely deceived me.  However, unwillingly, when after I graduated and 4 1/2 months into aftercare, I was kidnapped by my parents, and 3 accomplices, with straight's knowledge, approval, and cooperation, and taken to straight where I was verbally abused and guilt tactics were used to try to persuade me to sign myself back in the program....the police rescued me because I was 18 when this incident occurred. The trigger for the kidnapping was I was caught violating the no dating rule during after care---for of all things, handholding and was still not sexually active.

6. If you went willingly, do you feel the program was misrepresented to you? If so, how?

ANSWER: It was definitely misrepresented...my parents told me that I was going somewhere to talk to counselors...I was led to believe it was a one time session, NEVER did my parents tell me that it was long term, away from home "treatment." I don?t even remember the kids who conducted my intake ever telling me what straight was really like me, but they may have handed me a bunch of paper work....the only thing I remember finding out during intake was that I would be staying there so I was extremely dazed and confused (as I never tried drugs).

7. Education: Did you get a good education while you were in the program? Did you have teachers who gave lectures or was it all self teaching? Did you receive a high school diploma, or were you able to finish and get a diploma on time? Do you feel the education was adequate and helped you move on to college?

ANSWER: NO! During the first two phases, program rules prohibited attending school of any kind, reading was also banned during phase 1 and 2---for me I did not make it to 3rd phase for 2 1/2 to 3 months, during the school year. When allowed back in school during 3rd phase, I found myself behind, and the program provided little time for homework---attending group was the highest priority...also, no tutors were provided by the program to help me catch up. As a result of this, my grades further declined and barely had a C average when I graduated.  Straight definitely set me back because I had been in college bound classes and my GPA was a tad below a B average. As a result of the final Straight induced low GPA, I could NOT get into a regular 4-year program. I had to start in a community college and "earn" my way into the 4-year program. Also, due to the emotional trauma after straight...It took me 12 years to get to a point where I was ready for college.

8. How was the food? And the cleanliness of the place?

ANSWER: the food actually served in the program was terrible...half the time I could not identify what I was eating. For example - slabs of meat with a greenish/yellow sauce---what that was I'll never know. Host homes provided a steady and consistent diet of peanut butter sandwiches. The building where I was and host homes were actually clean.

9. Were you abused? If so, how? How many times? By whom?

ANSWER: Not physically. But everyone, including myself, was verbally abused, and endured other abuses such as extreme humiliation (led around by belt loop, watched carefully in bathroom stalls and showers) coercion, mind control, etc. Also, lack of proper medical care - I don?t think I ever saw a doctor even when sick the entire length of my program.

10. Did you witness others being abused? If so, what form of abuse and how often?

ANSWER: YES, every day! All the ones I listed in answer 9 were daily occurrences. I also saw many kids physically restrained for minor rule violations such as slouching in their chair, failure to motivate, failure to pay attention to the person talking. Restraining entailed 5 kids physically forcing a "misbehaver" onto the hard ceramic tile floor, at the direction of staff, and a kid sat on each limb...the length of time a child was restrained in this manner could vary between around an hour to all day. I never saw restraints used to prevent a child from harming himself or another---it was a punishment designed to instill fear and to coerce cooperation. Isolation was also used to "correct" misbehavers. I saw many children mysteriously disappear into intake rooms, sometimes for days on end, before returning to group...since I never was in the intake rooms myself while another was being isolated, I don?t know what went on...I also often hear horrifying screaming coming from the intake rooms. As far as the frequency of restraints & isolation in intake rooms, sometimes they occurred, but other times they were every day occurrences.

11. Overall, was your experience positive or negative?

ANSWER: NEGATIVE

12. If it was positive, please summarize your experience.

N/A

13. If it was negative, please summarize your experience.

ANSWER: This is really impossible to summarize as the ordeal harmed me in so many ways, and still does even after 20 years...while in the program I was in a constant state of terror, confusion, and felt utterly helpless; never could make choices of my own; witnessed horrifying abuses; was not allowed to talk about my real issues (divorce/separation from mother); experienced the most insidious and damaging mind control imaginable - a small example of this is that I never did drugs prior, but Straight somehow convinced me that I had a drug problem (they said I regularly got high from liquid paper, which in reality I never did this) ---what does that tell you about the power of mind control/brainwashing?----

After ?graduating,? I was FAR worse than I was before straight. It took me a long time to adjust to life away from straight, I was completely wild afterward for about 7 years, where I abused drugs and alcohol, among other things, in a slow process of self-destruction. 20 years later I still am haunted and still try to cope with the damage the program caused. I will take the scars and unhealed wounds of Straight to my grave.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
Thanks to those of you who have already responded. Hold that thought .....

Before moving forward with this, we need to get some more information about conducting surveys. We are asking for feedback on this.

Do any of you know what it takes for a survey to be legitimate? Can online surveys be considered valid, such as the one on this website? http://www.keysurvey.com/?source=Overtu ... C=standard (http://www.keysurvey.com/?source=Overture&OVRAW=survey&OVKEY=survey&OVMTC=standard)

Given that we sort of put the cart before the horse, so to speak, we are backtracking now to find out how to best get this accomplished. We feel it is a very good idea and that it is very needed by therpists and others who are joining in this fight to help the cause.

Please, rather than bash us, help us get this thing going. It's a good idea, it's needed, and we want to do it right. The information gathered could really help in many ways, people are asking for it right and left. It's just not out there and neeeds to be, so let's find a way to get this done.

Basically, I'm asking for information from anyone who has experience in this area.

Thank you.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 01:18:00 AM
Anon, I understand a survey is already being prepared at USF, perhaps you should attempt to contact them?

http://cfs.fmhi.usf.edu/cfsnews/2005news/A_START.html (http://cfs.fmhi.usf.edu/cfsnews/2005news/A_START.html)
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
Seems a survey is already under way, good to hear it. No need for me to duplicate efforts.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 06:20:00 AM
I see the link, but where's the survey?
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 10, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
from what i've heard it's something that should be made available widely in the very near furture and the links will be posted here.  kepp checking fornits or other behavior modification/ school forums
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
Seeking survivors

If you are survivor of a residential teen program and would like to take part in this survey, please answer the following questions:

1. Which program did you attend?
Copper Canyon Academy, Rimrock, AZ

2. How long were you in the program?
19 Months
3. Why were you sent there?
Cutting, suicide attmepts, anorexia, bulimia, depression
4. Did you feel your parents were justified in sending you away?
Yes, very much so. this was my fourth program that i went to, and without this program, and the other three, as well as many inpatient hospitalizations, I would have been dead before my 16th birthday. now, i am 19, an very much alive.
5. How did you get there? Escort service pick you up in the middle of the night, or did you go willingly.
I went willingly. I was at another program, where i was struggling. the program was just not the right structure for my issues, so my therapist and staff there, as well as my parents, talked to me about changing programs. I was very upset, because i was so attached to the program that i was already at, but i realized that it wasn't helping me.
6. If you went willingly, do you feel the program was misrepresented to you? If so, how?
no. i read everything about the program before i went, and nothing major was left out of the program description.
7. Education: Did you get a good education while you were in the program? Did you have teachers who gave lectures or was it all self teaching? Did you receive a high school diploma, or were you able to finish and get a diploma on time? Do you feel the education was adequate and helped you move on to college?
The education wasn't the best when i got there, because the school was still growing. It had mainly been self-taught courses. however, in the time that i was there, it changed to all teahcer -taught courses, with very good teachers. I got my highschool diploma, and i was a semester late in graduating, but that was my fault, for falling behind before i got sent away. The education was very adequate and helpful to me. Any courses they did not offer, i would do self-taught courses and the teachers would help me. Also, after i graduated highschool, I was able to take Self-taught COllege courses until i was able to finish the emotional part of the program.
8. How was the food? And the cleanliness of the place?
Cleanliness: A+...we spent 17 hours a week cleaning. Sounds like alot, but in a huge house, with nearly 80 girls, cleaning takes a while. Food was great. we had an awesome chef, who had previously owned his own restauraunt with his wife, and they cooked amazing food. they would come in on holidays and cook for us, as well as cook for us on our birthdays. We were Spoiled.
9. Were you abused? If so, how? How many times? By whom?
NO. Never once. And, i never saw any abuse of anyone else. There were often direct confrontations (vocally) but never anything mean or hatefull. Just honest. And physical force was never used unless a student was physically threatening herself or another student.
10. Did you witness others being abused? If so, what form of abuse and how often?
See above question.
11. Overall, was your experience positive or negative?
Very positive. Copper Canyon Academy Changed my life and i will be forever grateful to them. i still keep in contact with many girls, and many staff from my time there. And since i have graduated the program, they have been there to help me when i have struglled. I even went back for a week, because i relapsed, and i just stayed with one of my staff and hung out with  them and got re-therapized.
12. If it was positive, please summarize your experience.
The program is difficult. you are pushed to think in different ways and act in different ways. But they push you to do your best. There is no getting away with faking it, or not living up to yourself. Staff believes in you, and gets excited for you when you do well. The staff, in general, treat you like real people, with the exception of the few staff who just dind't fit (and ended up leaving). This was a wonderful experience.
13. If it was negative, please summarize your experience.
Not negative
Thank you for your help with this survey.
Your welcome...feel free to reproduce this in anyway needed for your survey!! Copper Canyon is a wonderful school and helps many girls and their families.
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Helena Handbasket on September 25, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
First of all, bulemia and depression indicate MEDICAL treatment.  Not pseudo-medical, not some "revolutionary" treatment by a matchbook-cover-degree recipient, and  not an "emotional growth" school. Once again, these are medical disorders.  Have you ever seen a Medical Doctor?

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You said

The education wasn't the best when i got there, because the school was still growing. It had mainly been self-taught courses.


So how did you get credit for the time where there were no teachers?

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however, in the time that i was there, it changed to all teahcer -taught courses, with very good teachers. I got my highschool diploma, and i was a semester late in graduating, but that was my fault, for falling behind before i got sent away. The education was very adequate and helpful to me. Any courses they did not offer, i would do self-taught courses and the teachers would help me.

You describe these teachers as "very good"... What is your reference point?  What were their credentials?

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Also, after i graduated highschool, I was able to take Self-taught COllege courses until i was able to finish the emotional part of the program.


Explain  "Self-taught college courses".  What college?  Also, what is "The emotional part of the program"??
Title: Questionnaire for Survivors of Programs
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2007, 09:41:35 AM
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Re: the university thing.



Try speaking with Dr. Richard Ofshe of UC Berkeley, who is a specialist in cults, and ask him if he has ever done a study on behavior modification schools. I was just speaking about him in another thread, because I spoke with him years ago about the Synanon/CEDU connection.



He is very hard to get in touch with, however, because he is a very busy man.


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