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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 30, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
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http://www.midwestacademy.net/ (http://www.midwestacademy.net/)
http://www.parentsupportservices.com/ (http://www.parentsupportservices.com/)
Anyone know anything about this one? I don't remember it being there before.
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Midwest opened in mid-2003, so it's been there for quite some time now.
There's a new WWASP prison that isn't getting the attention its due, though: Horizon Academy in Nevada, which received its first prisoners last month.
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IIRC, Midwest is run by the same guy who owned Paradise Cove (Samoa).
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Ok, is the school just called horizon academy? I'm going to see what I know about it. There are a few diffrent Horizon schools in nevada. "Morris Horizon" Being one of them. I will see what data I can get on it if you will tell me more.
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I just found their website (took a little digging, wasn't obvious at first):
http://www.horizon-academy.org/ (http://www.horizon-academy.org/)
Our Mission
Our mission is to provide young men and women the tools with which to build strong character and positive self-esteem, develop responsible decision-making skills, and improve family relationships.
Statement of Beliefs
Students can improve mentally, physically, socially, spiritually, and behaviorally in a team-based holistic program.
Students can change attitudes and behaviors in a positive structured environment.
Students can develop self-discipline and accountability by maintaining a rigorous daily schedule.
Students can rise to high standards and develop leadership and mentoring skills.
Students can use skills learned in seminars to enhance family relationships and build stronger societies.
Horizon Academy is located in the south eastern desert of Nevada, surrounded by beautiful mountains, sand dunes and expansive stretches of untouched arid land. Southern Nevada is rich in old west history, and the small town atmosphere surrounding Horizon Academy provides a friendly, family-oriented environment. The entrance to historic Death Valley lies miles to the west and the spectacular glitz of Las Vegas is just beyond majestic snow-capped Mount Charleston. The temperature provides year round outdoor opportunities and the vast desert floor invites exploration of its flora and fauna.
While students progress at their own pace, our excellent team provides constant guidance, supervision and encouragement. The very latest in computerized learning courses gives each student a custom education and a superior sense of achievement than the traditional classroom instruction can provide.
(click on link above to find pictures, etc.)
Horizon Academy provides a playful secluded location for students to attain academic excellence and personal integrity under highly structured, positive supervision and guidance.
Nestled in Amargosa Valley, Horizon Academy provides the perfect setting for students to feel free from the clamor and negative distractions of the fast-paced life and environment most are leaving behind. Students can enjoy the quiet, tranquil desert as they learn life skills that will provide them with the knowledge, honor and personal integrity essential to a successful life.
Horizon Academy is easily accessible from all the western United States. It is an excellent choice for parents who desire the very best "home away from home" for their child to develop into respectful, honorable young adults.
They have a page for ZERO TOLERANCE (not up and running, yet, we must check back):
Zero Tolerance
This web page is currently under construction. Please check back at a later date.
ACADEMICS PAGE:
Horizon Academy provides a very progressive academic curriculum which is individual and competency based. The computer generated curriculum guides the students through the lessons at their own pace, giving them the chance to master concepts before moving on to more challenging lesson. This state of the art software provides several multimedia teaching methods to enhance the learning experience. In addition to the computerized curriculum, Horizon Academy also offers elective courses in several subject areas.
PHILOSOPHY:
We, at Horizon Academy believe in creating a safe, structured environment with a focus of multidimensional education that will enable a student to explore their individual needs and abilities. Furthermore, we believe parental involvement and cooperation with the Academy will ensure academic success, strengthening the family unit and assist in shaping productive citizens.
Students graduating from Horizon Academy must complete 24 unit of credit. In addition to a general diploma, Horizon Academy offers a college prep diploma with a more detailed set of requirements. Below is a table of credits necessary to attain a diploma.
Subject Area General Diploma College Prep Diploma
English 3 4
Mathematics 3 3
Science 3 3
Social Studies 4 4
Foreign language 0 ½
Computer Education ½ ½
Health ½ ½
Vocational Education 1 1
Fine Arts 1 1
Physical Education 1 1
Electives 6 4
FAQ (OK, now this really smells like WWASP):
Questions
How quickly can I have my teen enrolled?
Are there any financial aid or assistance programs available?
Is enrollment open or are there specific times of the year to enroll my teen?
How often are visits allowed?
How many teens sleep in a room?
How long do the teens stay?
How is the family involved in the student's program?
Once I make the decision to enroll my teen, how do I get them to Horizon Academy?
Click on a question above to link directly to the answer.
Answers
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Q: How quickly can I have my teen enrolled? A: Some families need to work within a tight time frame and in most cases that can be accommodated. The minimum is 24 hours.
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Q: Are there any financial aid or assistance programs available? A: Please speak with your admissions representative for financial assistance questions. There are many options for funding your child's tuition.
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Q: Is enrollment open or are there specific times of the year to enroll my teen? A: We have year-round enrollment for the school. This is possible because of the nature of our academic program. For more information about academics, click on the link below.
Related Link: /academics/
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Q: How often are visits allowed? A: Visits are allowed when the teen reaches the appropriate status as an earned privilege.
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Q: How many teens sleep in a room? A: Four to six students are in one room.
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Q: How long do the teens stay? A: Graduation from Horizon Academy is based solely on results and changes created by the student in the school. Placing a time limit on graduation takes the focus off of the task at hand; making changes that work.
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Q: How is the family involved in the student's program? A: Each teen is assigned a family representative that is in contact with your teen thoughout the day. Weekly phone calls are made updating your teen's progress. In time, therapeutic phone calls are made for the purpose of working out family issues. Parents and teen communicate by letter as often as they like. A series of self-growth seminars that are nearly identical to the ones the teen participates in, is provided for the parents in several locations throughtout the country.
For more information about these seminars, click on the Parent Support Services button under the left menu.
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Q: Once I make the decision to enroll my teen, how do I get them to Horizon Academy? A: Your admissions representative will assist you through different options of getting your child to the school.
Each situation is different. Some students will come voluntiarily while others won't. We will help you determine what is best for your child.
And of course we cannot access the employee listing, you have to have a password for that.
And again, can't get the manual, gotta be registered.
WWASP written all over this one:
Jade Robinson owned Bell academy which was closed in 2003 by CA authorities. The owners had not obtained the license they needed to run the facility.
He also worked (I think the was a director) at Casa by the Sea in Mexico, which was closed by Mexican authorities for allegations of child abuse.
Like usual, they claim to be a boarding school when in reality they are a behavior modification program.
Well, if we weren't sure about it, we are now (registered to Ken Kay)
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I really need information specific to Midwest Academy.... in all of the WWASPS links nothing specific talks about whats going on at this facility?????
My daughters boyfriend was "disappeared" to MWA last week and I need all the info I can get.
Please help.... I've got to figure out how to get this kid out of that place!
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Still desparately seeking MWA information... please help!
I just came across this WWASP newsletter..
http://www.wwasp.com/source03/Jan-04L.pdf (http://www.wwasp.com/source03/Jan-04L.pdf)
...has anyone really played high school football and received awards then scouted by colleges at a WWASPS facility????
Until 8/14/05, I was one of the ignorant American public that had no idea this horrific industry existed....thanks to you all for sharing your experiences so that I can no longer claim ignorance!!!!
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Go to isaccorp.org-- they have lots of info about WWASPS, and MWA too, probably.
I hope your daughter's boyfriend will be released from this hellhole soon. Contrary to what WWASPS thinks, no child deserves to go through such abuse. Not to mention the brainwashing that takes place in these facilities.
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You're right.. ISAC is full of so much eye-opening information. This boy's mother has talked to ISAC on the phone and by email as they tried to explain what goes on in these places. The mom's argument is that none of the allegations relate directly to events at Midwest Academy. So she remains convinced her son's at a "private boarding school".
If anyone has any viable suggestions as to how someone with no legal rights can get this boy out, I would really appreciate the information. So far, all I've encountered are road blocks put up by every so-call protective agency I've contacted.
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What does ISAC know, have they ever been to any of the schools, NO, all they do is take clippings from newspapers and post them on their websites. How accurate is that?????
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On 2005-08-26 05:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What does ISAC know, have they ever been to any of the schools"
If they had you would call them lying manipulative teenagers.
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On 2005-08-26 05:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What does ISAC know, have they ever been to any of the schools, NO, all they do is take clippings from newspapers and post them on their websites. How accurate is that?????"
http://www.isaccorp.org/wwasps/WWASPCrimeReport.doc (http://www.isaccorp.org/wwasps/WWASPCrimeReport.doc)
They do something called INVESTIGATION! Something that the programs discourage and the authorities are unwilling to do themselves! Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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ANON: why don't you call ISAC and ask which schools they have visited? How can you state they have never visited ANY schools? That is an untrue statement!
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On 2005-08-25 18:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I really need information specific to Midwest Academy.... in all of the WWASPS links nothing specific talks about whats going on at this facility?????"
There is not much on Midwest Academy but there is plenty on its director, Brian Viafanua. He ran the notorious Paradise Cove facility. Paradise Cove was the worst of the WWASP facilities. It was the Tranquility Bay of its day.
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There are also hits under the spelling Vaifanua. Anyone know which is correct?
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I also found the 48 Hours program with the spelling Viafauna.
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Any opinions out there on why there is NO information specifically on Midwest Academy? Its been open for 2+ years so you know students or staff have left there. Do you think its because its so remote and closed down that no one's talking. I can always hope.... but seriously doubt that Viafanua has changed his Paradise Cove practices when he started this "Academy". I still have the hardest time with these places being called academies!!!!
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On 2005-08-26 05:17:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What does ISAC know, have they ever been to any of the schools, NO, all they do is take clippings from newspapers and post them on their websites. How accurate is that?????"
All they do?
Wrong again.
They take reports from teens who have been in these programs; and parents who have placed their children in these programs; and staff who have worked at these programs. They have been there.
And they post the news articles, as you mention. Its very nice to have a complete collection available when needed.
And on occasion, they have gone to take a look for themselves.
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On 2005-08-27 05:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Any opinions out there on why there is NO information specifically on Midwest Academy? Its been open for 2+ years so you know students or staff have left there. Do you think its because its so remote and closed down that no one's talking. I can always hope.... but seriously doubt that Viafanua has changed his Paradise Cove practices when he started this "Academy". I still have the hardest time with these places being called academies!!!!"
I actually meant "tightly locked" down not "closed" down.
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On 2005-08-27 05:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Any opinions out there on why there is NO information specifically on Midwest Academy? Its been open for 2+ years so you know students or staff have left there."
With an average stay of 12 to 18 months most of the kids who went to Midwest are still there. And even those who have left the facility have probably not left the program. The program has now been transferred to their homes and is being administered by their newly-trained/brainwashed parents, possibly aided and abetted by "coaches" from Premier Educational. Or maybe their parents still don't want them home and they have been sent to Pillars of Hope. Even if they don't have the threat of being sent back hanging over them it takes some time for the brainwashing to wear off.
BuzzKill will tell you that when she sent her son to Dundee Ranch there was no negative information available about it. Then it was raided and there was LOTS.
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My brother has been in midwest for over 13 months now.. does anyone have ANY new info about any major red flags about Midwest Academy? My parents still think he is being "helped" there and I don't think it's healthy at all. I'm really worried and I don't know what to do.
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Have your parents read what's on http://www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org). Midwest, and all other WWASPS facilties, are highly abusive and dangerous to children.
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It's spelled Vaifanua, although it's misspelled so much you would probably get hits under Vaifauna, Vaifenua, etc etc.
There's not much information on Midwest Academy because it's in Keokuk, Iowa. It's in such a remote location that it's barely heard of, and everyone in town believes the lies that Vaifanua spreads during church, so there's never any opposition. In fact, Vaifanua recruits the townmembers to help him catch the runaways if they get that far.
The worst thing at Midwest is that they hand out consequences like candy, especially cat 3's. They try to keep the kids on Level 1 or in Intervention as long as possible, so that they can persuade the parents that the kids are defiant and they need to be sent to TB/Nevada. It's been the trend since Casa shut down and they've been swamped with students.
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Brian Vaifanua is a semi good looking guy with a lot of charisma. I knew him back in 1990 at Cross Creek Manor. That guy was so full of himself, even back then!!!!
Probably the years of being in this business has hardened him. He was close along with his wife Angie to Bob Lichfield. I knew back in 1990 there were talking about opening up in Samoa. Bob used Brians connections to do so. Brian benefitted financially, and can't give up the money. It's great money!!!!
Also having your wife's family who is pretty well off questioning you for marrying a samoan dude. Come on, you know her family being from the midwest was thinking what the hell???? Especially if they met his family back in Samoa and found out how they lived, compared to the estate Angie grew up in. Big difference!!!!
So Brian was like, whatever I'll show them! So, he runs kiddie prisons now, and gets paid lots of money for doing so. How do Angie's parents feel? They don't care, as long as there little girl is being taken care of in the manner she is accustomed to.
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Poor Angie doesn't have a clue what goes on in the facility 20 feet away from her home. If her husband couldn't stop her, she could walk right in and shut the place down, but of course Vaifanua's got the same iron grip on his household.
He also has an exceptionally annoying habit of waving his success in other people's faces, especially when he's "testifying" in church...It's disgusting.
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Poor Angie??? I don't know about that!?!! She knows exactly what goes on!
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I wish I had Brian's email. I would email him in a heartbeat and tell him what a jerk I think he is!!!!
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Well she sure as hell acts clueless about it.
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On 2006-04-11 05:50:00, Mochiko wrote:
"Well she sure as hell acts clueless about it. "
Well, I only know because she was my houseparent at Cross Creek Manor. She was somewhat nice, and we had some heart to heart talks.
But, she knew what kind of disipline practices went on. She knows that the owner Bob Lichfield has some issues.
I have to ask, how do you know them? Were you a student, or a parent? Or did you work at Midwest Academy?
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Two days ago they had a support group meeting in Deforest, WI. Four upper level students from Midwest, called "interns" (the term they use for PC2 grads I guess), two boys and two girls, came to the meeting with a few staff. I ended up not going, which is the case most of the time, but now I wish I would have.
Anyway, this past fall I did speak to one 17 year old from Deforest who was pulled from Midwest after a little under a year. She seemed quiet, unhappy. She was sent back after only a month or so, I believe because she got back into drugs or her mom thought so. I didn't get to speak to her too much about the conditions there.[ This Message was edited by: emaree on 2006-04-12 15:26 ][ This Message was edited by: emaree on 2006-04-12 15:27 ]
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BTW- I would revise your post. I private messaged you. I think you could help a lot of people. But, they monitor this site. I would revise your post, then PM people individually.
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midwest and many other of the faciliteis are not at all abusive and you should not believe everything you read on the internet. I was there for almost a year and was never abused and never wtnessed or experienced anything but care/ love
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We're all glad you had such a fine experience then.
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On 2006-04-18 11:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"midwest and many other of the faciliteis are not at all abusive and you should not believe everything you read on the internet. I was there for almost a year and was never abused and never wtnessed or experienced anything but care/ love"
When were you there?
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On 2006-04-18 11:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"midwest and many other of the faciliteis are not at all abusive and you should not believe everything you read on the internet. I was there for almost a year and was never abused and never wtnessed or experienced anything but care/ love"
Why don't you shut the hell up! You just get paid to come on here and post this crap.
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That sort of reaction is precisely what these people are after. We rise above them by remaining calm and collected.[ This Message was edited by: MightyAardvark on 2006-04-18 12:03 ]
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3 Full time staff members at Midwest Academy including Howard V. were placed on the State of Iowa Child Abuse Registry in February 2006 as a result of an Iowa Department of Human Services Investigation of their actions towards at least one student who is my son. I believe this facual circumstance could be representative of the short comings of the entire organization. Make your own judgements. Interesting that Midwest Academy is not a licensed or registered school in Iowa. It exists based upon the homestudy program of the local Keokuk High School. You have to wonder what the connection between the local High School and Midwest Academy actually is.... And why. Midwest Academy exists because it is an unregulated facility in Iowa with no external supervision or licensing. Just ask for proof and you will find out just as I did. Don't take their word for it.
Just ask who the credentialed teachers and administrators are, how many credentialed or simply college degree carrying teacher assistants there are for the total number of students and you will learn pretty fast for yourself what this place is... "a warehouse for kids" owned by an organization that markets to desperate parents" is my opinion.
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Located in Keokuk, IA in a former retirement home. the kids were like zombies. Pale, lethargic, I wondered if they were "medicated". counselling is done mostly in groups via TV modules-- little people contact. The girls (which I visited) were not allowed to wear shoes- they could be weapons. School was on computer-- a "teacher", who was more like a jailer to me, supervised the room. Very little interaction with the "teacher". They were not allowed outside for several months, and only then in a small enclosed courtyard. I only saw two male staff members and one female in my quite lengthy visit. I would not send anyone there.
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Hello I am a mwa grad and I agree with whoever said that this place is a hellhole. Something you probably don't know is the scandal that happened there around May of 2006. One of the students was having sexual relations with one of the nurses and yes I mean intercourse. This is not the kind of place you want to send your kids. For more info e-mail me at fenchipride@yahoo.com
This is an e-mail I made so people don't find out my real name.
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Thanks for sharing about your experience. Parents do not realize the truth and even when former students speak they refuse to see it, but the more ex wwasp prisoners who speak out, the more the truth is becoming clear. I was at SCL in Montana and my female family rep was also having sex with the teenage boys in the facility. I think these kind of places attract sexual predators and such. Hope you stay around and post about your experience.
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That is not the only flaw if you have ever taken a guide through the school the people there would tell you that your children are in a safe invironment. But the verbal abuse that goes on there is a different thing. The kids and the people who watch your kids may poke fun constantly at kids especialy those who are not moving through the program as fast as others. And don't think that your kids aren't doing drugs. A group of level 4,5and sixes broke into comfo. (where they keep kids things that they brought with them like drugs.) and got a bunch of pot and ciggarets. And smoked it. Also when I left in 2006. More and more kids were trying to commit suicide and at least once a month someone was getting sent to the psych ward. Most of these kids would go back and forth from mwa to the psych ward. If you have kids who are not popular at home there going to have hell in mwa because essentially it's just a popularity contest to see who porgresses and who doesn't in the families and especially in the dynasty family (The upper level family.).
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On 2006-04-18 11:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"midwest and many other of the faciliteis are not at all abusive and you should not believe everything you read on the internet. I was there for almost a year and was never abused and never wtnessed or experienced anything but care/ love"
Why don't you shut the hell up! You just get paid to come on here and post this crap.
Bump for her doing that very thing nowadays :rofl:
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You don't know what you're talking about, shhhhhhhhhhh Niles!
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I do believe that somewhere in all the confusion some have neglected to remember that CCM Girl has routinely insisted she isn't engaging in ed con activitities. While she does support another in this endevour she isn't participating in it herself.
I support people who I think could make a difference in the Teen Help Industry. I have nothing to do with the EdConBiz though. Thank you for clearing that up.
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But CCM--you do still support Kevin August and his little referral program over there on Anti-WWASP now, don't you?
Your former WWASP survivor buddy who thinks is fine to earn referral fees selling kids into programs like Magnolia Christain Center that has an ex-Bethel/WWASP employee on it staff, right?
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I haven't visited his site in a while, or spoken to him. I have no idea what he's up to? I'll check it out.
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I swear all of these programs are indistinguishable the same shit different name, When will people wake up.
OT - CCM has gotten a lot of flack lately, and even though I disagree with her support of anti she's not the devil, toke anyone? :smokin:
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Folks there is a new wind blowing.
MWA Keokuk Iowa is at least affiliated with a school (if you want to call it that) and since it forces students to stay in "families" and since it utilizes students to "engage in acts involving forced activity" for the purposes of initiation or admission into "higher levels" of status....
and because as a condition of initiation or admission it forces students to participate in activities or to be placed in forced confinement and isolatioin and because it restricts basic items such as condiments and food intake as a part of its "rewards system"
BINGO! MWA in Keokuk is subject to Section 708.10 of the Iowa State Code which defines the legal penalties for "hazing." Yup, good old MWA is much like an out of control fraternity, abusing pledges.
Trust me, Laws enacted to prevent fraternity hazing are on the books in many states and the time has come to see them utilized to
protect young men and women in these carefully marketed programs that serve up abusive behavior modification. So if the state won't regulate them, we have to make the existing laws regarding Hazing (a sophisticated name for bullying) work.
It might be just a misdemeanor but they sure do add up! Let's see how many for Line Structure per day (a forced activity that can endanger a student ? How Many for Cat 5's per day? How many parents out there would like to try and walk with the groin of the person behind them pressed into their cheeks centered on their rectum.... oh but I digress, that is not abuse... ITS JUST HAZING!
AND BETTER STILL, IF A CHILD IS "IN RESISTANCE", tell the family practice Doctor or Physicians Assistant that "we think he is depressed." Load the kid up on Zolaft (even though it is not approved by the FDA for administration to Pediatric patients which includes those under the age of 18). Make sure they take their meds now. Watch them swallow and then stick out their tongue....
When they are loaded up with a good dose of anti-depressants they are a lot more compliant aren't they? But it is not abuse. It is a MIRACLE CURE. Reminds me of how good I feel after I stop hitting my head with a hammer....
Here is the hard truth. Its not just the school that is abusive and it is not the parent that is brain washed. The parent for whatever reason just gives up and doesn't care if its an abusive environment! They start thinking "The end justifies the means." AND MWA promises such a pretty ending! Look at all the testimonials! And a drowning parent grabs the straw. And then pays for it with a second mortgage, the college fund etc... So if you are the parent and you are ready to send your kid to MWA... don't bother. Just lie to your local Police Dept. Tell them whatever lie you choose and have them pack your little monster off to Juvenile. WHY? Because your child will be treated much better there and will actually be much safer! AND you can save the $3500 a month. That is the hardest truth of all. YOUR CHILD WILL BE SAFER IN JUVENILE THAN MWA. AT LEAST JUVENILE IS REGULATED!
Hey have you heard about the kid who's Dad broke him out of MWA last January? Everyonce in a while parents do figure it out!
Especially when they have cut a deal to pay one of the insiders to provide information. Thanks to one staffer at MWA who needed to feed his family more than the paycheck MWA offered.
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We rescued our daghter from mwa this year in Feb. She was there for just a month, believe me that was to long! Viewing her pictures, reflections, and letters, we knew something wasn't right. We jumped in our car and took the over ten hour drive to get her.
MWA, W.W.A.S.P. is only in it for their pocket book and do not care for the quality of a childs life. I continue to thank God that we observed and listened to our daughter's words and the pictures they post on the internet.
To this day she is still struggling with the acne (she never had until MWA). She does not trust many people and suffers more with depression, anxiety attacks, and panic attacks.
If puting a child of fifteen in isolation locked in a dirty metal room, lights kept on her, camera running and watching her every move, pounding on the door to make her get the covers from over her head because they are scared and having anxiety attacks and ask to talk to someone is supose to be healthy therapy, we have a problem.
Those who have attended MWA would know the punishments. Not anyone would be able to understand what it is like unless they lived it. It just breaks my heart to know she had to experience that suffering even for a day let alone a month.
They were well aware of the reason she was there and they continued to assure us that they specialize in her condition. Before we sent her it took them just about two months to convince me that MWA was the place she needed to be. After she was there for about two weeks, the nurse had e-mailed me to ask me if I could send her some information on what O.C.D. was. But they specialized in O.C.D. ?!!???!!
Some of you may know the tactics. You are so desperate after years of turmoil and you love your child so much and you think you have done all you can then they tell you they are the answer with their misleading advertisements, contracts, their rule book doesn't even contain all the rediculous don't do's.
Don't look out of line, don't look out windows, don't look at other students, don't look in mirrors, don't talk, don't non verbal (smile, wave, wink, mouth out words) Don't sit on your bed ever until bed time. don't put your crackers in your soup, don't doodle on paper, don't cross things off with a pen, no eracers, don't use bathroom unless they say, ect...
Do walk with an escort, do count while using bathroom or say abc's and leave feet outside of stall, do undress in front of someone before shower and get dressed in front of them when you are done, do raise your hand to throw a paper away and have it inspected, do ask permission to get permission to talk to someone when you need help (scared, sad, anxious, sick, school work)
There is so much more. If you don't do the do's or don'ts you get merits taken away and it takes you down a level. Your school work first of all is not accredited but they also take away merits if you are having a hard time with your work, if you get to do school work, it depends on how fast you copy the rule book that consists of almost fifty pages. They call this off task. What in the world is off task when you are needing help with your school work. What happened to the advertising of one on one classroom teaching. In the long run, even if you are doing well in school, they will demerit you for some reason or another and take you right back down to where you started or even below that, they will find a way.
They deprive you of food depending on what level you are. The food is all processed. Yummy, p & j packaged, hot dogs, they have a salad bar but can you use it? Depends on your level. If you want ketchup on your hot dog, you can't, not until you are a level two.
Girls by average gain about thirty pounds and the boys by average lose about twenty pounds. They strip these kids of all self asteem and make them totally dependent on them. They even tell the kids to not rely on God or your family they cannot help you. Concentrate on your problems.
When we picked our daughter up, she was soaking wet and had the biggest cold sore I had ever seen in my life on her lip and chin. She was demerited for touching it because it hurt, she did not know what it was because she could not look in the mirror. The nurse asked her if she ever had one before and she asked what and the nurse told her she had a cold sore. Are we surprised?, they did not give her anything to put on it.
I will not go on anymore. I just wanted those who are writting and saying these schools are loveing and kind to realize that the tactic they use at these facilities are the same tactics (especially the seminars) that they used on our P.O.W.'s in vietnam. The children come out exausted and compliant because they have no choice. This is all they know now. I just pray that they are able to cope. I know just from one month of it, our daughter needs much therapy. She is so angry at me and does not trust much any more.
Wow, I wrote alot, I was just writting to ask if anyone has seeked legal help? Has anyone contacted an attorney? I have a specific attorney (law firm) we are using and after the nightmare we experienced with MWA I ask alot of questions first before I can trust too. Before we sign the papers hopefully we can get some input from others.
God bless all of you and I pray life is good to you.
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A lot sure happened during this month enrollment of your daughter, Isomadlord. Did you participate in any of these seminars? How many pictures of your daughter were posted, and where were they posted--since this was a "clue" that your daughter was in trouble. You said your "daughter's words" provided you with "clues"--were these "words" in letters she wrote to you?
Did you find the proper care for your daughter locally? Is your daughter living at home now?
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No we did not go to any of the seminars. They sure were pushing them though. I quickly did some researching emmediately when they had us call about the seminars and we were informed they would be three days and eleven hours the first two days then I think about nine hours the thrird day. They had alot of rules. You had to sign a contract. They warned pregnant women, sickly people such as heart problems ect... should not attend. So I checked it out and I did not like the testimonies that I read and I also talked to persons who attended them and did not keep the oath.
They continually told me wait til the first seminar and your daughter will do much better. Yes, they will brain wash them and try to brain wash us too.
One higher up told our daughter when your parents attend the seminar they will not come and get you. We of course found all of this out when we picked her up. Almost 100 percent of what she had to tell us about the program we had read already before we picked her up from other survivors of these places.
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isomadlord123 - Would you like contact information for the law firm suing WWASP? They are still interviewing potential clients. PM or write me if you'd like this information. Personally, I think you should speak with them. I hope you will, if you haven't already.
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BuzzKill, I would apreciate the information. We feel we should do something. Our daughter cried all day when we first got home begging us to help the others that are still there. It is so in human. Thank you.
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BuzzKill, would I be able to pm? I am new at this. I came across this forum searching but I have to admit I do not know how to use these forums very well. Do you have to be registered?
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To send ( or receive ) a PM you would have to register a user name. It can be anything you want. After all - my given name is not actually BuzzKill ;)
But if you want, you can write me at BuzzKilll@insightbb.com
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Think twice about getting involved in the Turley suit. It is the biggest collection of self serving Sue Scheff blowing morons known to mankind.
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Think twice about getting involved in the Turley suit. It is the biggest collection of self serving Sue Scheff blowing morons known to mankind.
And who would you be "guest"? I mean - for all anyone knows, you are a mid west staffer - or even King Kay himself.
Let me assure anyone who might be interested, that the plaintiff list is by no means a collection of "Sue Scheff blowing morons". I know a number of the plaintiffs well enough to know they have never had anything at all to do with her; and some others well enough to know that while they once did consider her a friend, they no longer do, and will have nothing to do with her. *This case* has nothing to do with her - and you "guests" harping on about it are showing yourselves to be more interested in badgering Scheff, than in seeing these kids get some measure of justice. I am becoming increasingly suspicious of your motivation. I had thought you were just ignorant, but I am coming to the conclusion you are obsessed with Scheff, to the point of insanity , or actually working for WWASP. But you wouldn't be the first who was willing to work for WWASP, if it would gripe Sue's ass.
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please PM me Please I need to talk