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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 05, 2005, 12:56:00 PM
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Fr. Cassian-----(727) 392-3437
I got the number off a pamphlet from his sanctuary. It said to call it for information about "retreats" at his church. I think the line rolls over to his home at night, I spoke to Ruthie briefly Sunday evening. I suggest you tell Virgil you got his number from a "Christian friend" and tell him you want some counseling for "abuse you received as a child". See what he says and then bring up the fact that it was in Straight or KIDS and that he was the Abuser In Chief. Should be good for a few laffs.
Have fun!!!
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Call them and let them know how you feel!!
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Better yet, file an affidavit with the "authorities" on remembered incidents of abuse that you witnessed or experienced during Miller or Ruth Ann Newton's tenures at one of the Straights or at Kids of North Jersey or Kids of Bergen County. If anyone has further advice regarding the specifics of filing such an affidavit, please post here.
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On 2005-07-05 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Better yet, file an affidavit with the "authorities" on remembered incidents of abuse that you witnessed or experienced during Miller or Ruth Ann Newton's tenures at one of the Straights or at Kids of North Jersey or Kids of Bergen County. If anyone has further advice regarding the specifics of filing such an affidavit, please post here."
Nah, I think I'll "confront" Virgil over the phone instead.
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Call Virgil and tell him you're filing an affadavit regarding abuses he participated or perpetuated.
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Ruthie answered. I asked for Fr. Cassian. She asked what it was in reference to, I said I was a survivor of abuses at Straight, Inc. that he oversaw, and that she helped facilitate as well. I told her I wanted to know if Fr. Cassian would like to apologize, she asked my name, I told her, repeated my request, she asked my name again, I asked, what does it matter to you, Ruthie, I'm not the only one you two abused, there are thousands of us. She hung up the phone.
Keep those calls coming, folks!!
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I called last night and an old man answered. I just hung up.
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What's the name of their church??
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me cock 'n balls
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On 2005-07-06 09:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ruthie answered. I asked for Fr. Cassian. She asked what it was in reference to, I said I was a survivor of abuses at Straight, Inc. that he oversaw, and that she helped facilitate as well. I told her I wanted to know if Fr. Cassian would like to apologize, she asked my name, I told her, repeated my request, she asked my name again, I asked, what does it matter to you, Ruthie, I'm not the only one you two abused, there are thousands of us. She hung up the phone.
Keep those calls coming, folks!!"
Thats golden! :lol:
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Gotta keep Virgil's number in easy view of his fans......
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On 2005-07-06 12:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I called last night and an old man answered. I just hung up."
That would be Virgil Miller Newton/Fr. Cassian.
The name of his "church" is the "Christ of the Sea Foundation".
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Calling Newton's house is fun when you have a soundboard of filthy celebrity quotes from such greats as Jack Nicholson and others. The message I personally left, should they choose to listen, is very convincing. I think I'll leave some more of those soundboard messages essentially telling them that they can't handle the truth, and fuck you.
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beautiful :rofl: :rofl:
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On 2005-07-05 09:56:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Fr. Cassian-----(727) 392-3437
I got the number off a pamphlet from his sanctuary. It said to call it for information about "retreats" at his church. I think the line rolls over to his home at night, I spoke to Ruthie briefly Sunday evening. I suggest you tell Virgil you got his number from a "Christian friend" and tell him you want some counseling for "abuse you received as a child". See what he says and then bring up the fact that it was in Straight or KIDS and that he was the Abuser In Chief. Should be good for a few laffs.
Have fun!!!"
Gonna go call him now!
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Ask him about bankruptcy fraud!
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It's overcautious, but I wouldn't do ANYTHING that anyone mentions on this board.
Ask yourself, do really know who these people are?
Can you really trust anyone here that you don't really know?
NO. you cannot. Here is why: You don't know them or what their intentions are. Just because they may or may not have been in Straight and you were in Straight or you hold some candle for child rights, does not mean that you should listen to these people. Most of them do not have any college education, most of them are still struggling, either in their denial or out of their denial, about Straight Incorporated.
You don't know who the fuck you are talking to by calling that phone number.
But, if you can't resist calling some unknown family's number...then prank calling must be your gimic. But remember, you are only implicating yourself if they decide to trace the call or hand it to the authorities.
Kpickle works for Jeb Bush.
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On 2005-07-12 13:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
You don't know who the fuck you are talking to by calling that phone number.
You are calling Virgil Miller Newton/Fr. Cassian and his wife, the lovely Ruth Ann Newton. I recognized her beautiful voice. I got the number from a pamphlet isn his church sanctuary. It invited anyone to call for information about retreats at Christ at the Sea. As long as you mention that, say, by asking, "Are these retreats anything like the abusive treatment you dished out at Straight, Inc. or KIDS of North Jersey, you should be OK, legal-wise. It was an open invitation. Now, if you were to call and say "Fuck you, Virgil, I'm gonna kick your ass", well, that might be illegal, although amusing. Balance the potential legal hassles with the enjoyment you get, and make your own decision. I merely asked if the good Father would care to apologize for abusing me and others during his tenure at Straight, I was in no way threatening, or even rude. I would expect that anyone who called would at least display common courtesy. My next call will be under the auspices of my Fr. Cassian Fan Club Newsletter, and I will inquie as to whether he would be interested in granting an interview. I don't expect that he will, but it doesn't hurt to ask--politely, of course.
As for your assertion that you can't trust anyone or should ignore them due to their lack of a college education, that is laughable. I live in a college town, and some of the biggest fools, liars, and idiots I have ever had the displeasure of knowing have had advanced degrees. Perhaps you are one of them. I have also met extremely intelligent people with incredibly good judgement and common sense who have 10th grade educations. I seriously doubt you are one of them, except perhaps for the educational achievement.
Kpickle works for Jeb Bush."
Who gives a flying fuck who Kpickle works for?
Again, you flout your inanity.
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I do.
Before going and asking for information from anyone, especially since he works for people that most of the survivors who come here were indirectly abused or raped by, he should be forthwith on that information whenever he speaks.
It is rather biased to fail to mention he works for DFAF supporters and expect survivors to trust him in any way shape or form.
For all you know, that bitch reports all the serious shit that happens here to DFAF. He will deny it; watch.
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blah blah blah again
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On 2005-07-12 19:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I do.
Before going and asking for information from anyone, especially since he works for people that most of the survivors who come here were indirectly abused or raped by..
You were raped by Jeb Bush?
WOW! was it anally? Did it hurt? Did you entice him by wearing a mini skirt and high heels and strolling up and down the capitol street?
Did he also suck your little animal peepee?
You slut!!!!!
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Gotta keep Miller Newton's number on the page at all times!
Call today, folks! It's (727) 392-3437!!
Ask him if his retreats are anything like Straight!! "Hey Fr. Cassian, will you marathon me, sit on me, and feed me PBJs at your retreats? How 'bout making me sit in my shit for hours 'cause your goons keep me from going to the bathroom? You will? Wow, sign me up!"
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Give him a call.....
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On 2005-07-12 23:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-07-12 19:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I do.
Before going and asking for information from anyone, especially since he works for people that most of the survivors who come here were indirectly abused or raped by..
You were raped by Jeb Bush?
WOW! was it anally? Did it hurt? Did you entice him by wearing a mini skirt and high heels and strolling up and down the capitol street?
Did he also suck your little animal peepee?
You slut!!!!!
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You were raped by Jeb Bush and you want others to know about it by puttin it on someone else. That's fairly usual around here. It's the fornits way. Good luck with that. And your teency weency animal peepee is in need of wart ointment after the flogging by him. No gettin rid of that shit!!!
Nevertheless your denial proves that you know what I say, who ever you are. wart animal peepee.
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On 2005-07-15 21:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"wart animal peepee."
Is there a doctor doolittle in the house?
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On 2005-07-13 11:44:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Gotta keep Miller Newton's number on the page at all times!
Call today, folks! It's (727) 392-3437!!
Ask him if his retreats are anything like Straight!! "Hey Fr. Cassian, will you marathon me, sit on me, and feed me PBJs at your retreats? How 'bout making me sit in my shit for hours 'cause your goons keep me from going to the bathroom? You will? Wow, sign me up!""
Ask him about Jerry Vancil!!!!
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Ya know I spent some time looking for Jerry Vancil. I finally meet a little old lady on the phone, thought I found him but to no avail. Does anyone know what happend to him? More insight?
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On 2005-07-19 17:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ya know I spent some time looking for Jerry Vancil. I finally meet a little old lady on the phone, thought I found him but to no avail. Does anyone know what happend to him? More insight?"
I heard a rumor that he died under mysterious circumstances after reporting Straight to HRS.
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That's the point, maybe ginger can make Vancil the Sponser of the Straight Forum. :question:
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I'm gonna ask them about Jerry Vancil today.
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I do not know the Jerry Vancil Story. Any write ups on it? You don't have to post the story here, just direct me where to go online to find it. Thanks.
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From what I understand he was the precursor to Mr. Bradbury and he was murdered.
That's all I know
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:eek: Holy Shit! I just googled "Jerry Vancil"!
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I left a message on their answering machine---"I hope you guys do time for defrauding the IRS and your creditors" :lol:
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Call them collect from "Jerry Vancil" :wave:
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Don't forget to call Miller Newton today!!!!
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On 2005-07-23 10:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Call them collect from "Jerry Vancil" :rofl: We will make mistakes. Learning from them doesn't make us heros. It only gives us a passing grade on the evolutionary scale.
Antigen
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My name is Tommy I was tricked into an intake,and signing in on halloween 1982.I tried to leave and was sat on.My father died when I was 12 and I had a hard time dealing with this.There is a drug and alcohol councelor in my state that told my mother that he did not even need to see me or talk to me I was a drug addict who neede to go to straight.This councelor had sent many people from here in AnnArbor mich there.He is still a councelor to this day he says he regrets ever sending anyone there I still resent him.I had the longest program in this straight I copped out 9 times,I was there over three years.I am still haunted by being sat on sometimes from attendance to the end of night rap .These people used to put a rag in my mouth when I begged them to get off me.Then they think you can ever trust these people who restrain you sit on you force you to motivate,exercise.I had a brother on senior staff.I dont speak to him or any of my family its been a long time when you dont conform you get tortured emotionally and physically. That place still effects me to this day I still know alot of people who feel the same way,my friend was in straight washington,he has a hard time talking about it he was a [MISBEHAVER}to.I just got this computer I was shocked to see this site. how are you guys doing.Is it to late to sue this place.
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There is someone asking for Straight victims' testimonies for a lawsuit, you can email survivorsagainststraightinc.@hotmail.com and ask about it.
Welcome to the club. That place was a living hell, and many of us did not survive--there have been a lot of suicides as a result of the bullshit Straight dished out.
The phone number posted in this thread is for the former director of Straight. I encourage you to call him and politely tell him how Straight fucked with you.
Good luck, and I hope you stay around. You'll have to wade through some bullshit occasionally, but there are some good people here that understand what you've been through, because they were there.
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On 2005-07-21 14:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"THIS IS A GREAT POST AND FOLLOW UPS.
THERE ARE SOME ATTORNEYS ARE ON HERE AND SOME PARALEGALS ARE INTERESTED IN CONSIDERING FILING SUITS. YOU SHOULD SEE IF YOU CAN CONTACT THEM THERE.
survivorsagainststraightinc@hotmail.com"
Remember, "Dr. Dr. Rev. Dr." Virgil Miller "Father Cassian" Newton, and his lovely spouse Ruth Ann can be reached at (727)392-3437
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On 2005-07-27 13:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"My name is Tommy I was tricked into an intake,and signing in on halloween 1982.I tried to leave and was sat on.My father died when I was 12 and I had a hard time dealing with this.There is a drug and alcohol councelor in my state that told my mother that he did not even need to see me or talk to me I was a drug addict who neede to go to straight.This councelor had sent many people from here in AnnArbor mich there.He is still a councelor to this day he says he regrets ever sending anyone there I still resent him.I had the longest program in this straight I copped out 9 times,I was there over three years.I am still haunted by being sat on sometimes from attendance to the end of night rap .These people used to put a rag in my mouth when I begged them to get off me.Then they think you can ever trust these people who restrain you sit on you force you to motivate,exercise.I had a brother on senior staff.I dont speak to him or any of my family its been a long time when you dont conform you get tortured emotionally and physically. That place still effects me to this day I still know alot of people who feel the same way,my friend was in straight washington,he has a hard time talking about it he was a [MISBEHAVER}to.I just got this computer I was shocked to see this site. how are you guys doing.Is it to late to sue this place."
Hey Tommy,
I remember you, this is Ken, I came in a week or two ahead of you and remember your brother too. That place was fucked up and I understand your pain. I remember leaving the Ann Arbor area to go down to that hell hole, they never had a right to do what they did to us. I think these websites are great. It's a chance to heal here and help expose places like this in order to save other kids from going thru what we went thru.
I talk to some of those you were in with once in a while. I hope you're healing now Tom. It was a relief to me to know that I didn't have to carry the weight (or blame myself) for my family's problems anymore, that was up to them. Straight really twisted my mind around for a while, but things are improving now..
Take care...Ken
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On 2005-07-26 12:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Don't forget to call Miller Newton today!!!!
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His phone number is (727) 392-3437.
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Who would have ever guessed just a few years later they would start another shithole program outside A2 & I'd end up there.
Welcome Tommy good to see another Mich person.
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On 2005-07-27 17:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-07-26 12:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Don't forget to call Miller Newton today!!!!
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His phone number is (727) 392-3437."
Ask him what he's gonna do after the tax man takes his church!
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Called them the night before last----that goddamn bitch hung up on me as soon as I mentioned Straight. I wasn't insulting or anything, I just asked if either she or "Fr. Cassian" would care to comment on the abuses that occurred in Straight durring their involvement. Then the putrid bag of scuzz hung up the phone.
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Keep those calls to Virgil happening!! We've got more to talk about now with his church getting seized! :wave:
Call Miller and Ruth Ann Newton @ (727) 392-3437 !!!
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On 2005-08-13 12:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Called them the night before last----that goddamn bitch hung up on me as soon as I mentioned Straight. I wasn't insulting or anything, I just asked if either she or "Fr. Cassian" would care to comment on the abuses that occurred in Straight durring their involvement. Then the putrid bag of scuzz hung up the phone."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :grin:
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Gotta call Miller Newton and ask him how his health is holding up!!! :wave:
keep those calls coming to Miller and Ruthie!
(727) 392-3437
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"You have a collect call from 'Terminal Illness', do you accept the charges?" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I like to hear Ruthie's sexy voice, so I'm calling again this evening. I'm gonna offer to comfort her sexually after Miller kicks it from whatever disease he has. Think I'll laugh about that, too.
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Time to ring up ol' Dr. Dr. Rev. Vice-Admiral Sir Virgil Miller "Father Cassian" Newton. I think I'll tell him I am disgusted by the fact that he has not apologized to his victims, then wish him a slow and excrutiatingly painful death.
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Number again please.
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I'd love to call them at about 3:00 am and tell them what I think of them.
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Cool, post what happens right away. The Insomniacs appreciate it.
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does *61 block your number????
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*67 ooops
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Have you called Miller and Ruthie Newton today? Give the old CHild Abuser In Chief a ring and tell him what's up......do it today!
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I get free long distance nights and weekends on my cell..its 3:34 am here I think Ill wish them a good morning..rise and shine bitches!
~linch