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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: OverLordd on June 20, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
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Well the question is in the subject, answer with what you know, have there ever been any assassination attempts?
Revelation indeed had no weight with me.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-20 12:51 ]
This is being added later to explane sence I dont sound like a jack ass, these people have hurt alot of kids, and it makes sence for kids to be upset, so, has any kid ever tired to attack one of them and have justice? I mean, considering the repuation (which we are led to believe) These kids should be able to kill people with their hands or whatever tools they have, has any one snaped and assulted some one? Hell im in boy scouts and my Scout master taught me how to kill some one with a sharpened peice of rubber.[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-20 12:58 ]
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Dont get caught up in your anger, or its gonna screw you over, and very easily a few other people.
Yes, it does happen, but I dont have a collected number or more than a few anecdotes.
IIRC, theres a thread about Chris Sutton killing his parents for sending him off to samoa... no good comes from it. Its just more propaganda for the programs and making martyrs out of asshole parents. My initial response was to sue her for defamation of character, but then I realized that I had no character.
-- Charles Barkley, on hearing Tonya Harding proclaim herself "the Charles Barkley of figure skating"
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On 2005-06-20 12:51:00, OverLordd wrote:
"Well the question is in the subject, answer with what you know, have there ever been any assassination attempts?Revelation indeed had no weight with me.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-20 12:51 ]
This is being added later to explane sence I dont sound like a jack ass, these people have hurt alot of kids, and it makes sence for kids to be upset, so, has any kid ever tired to attack one of them and have justice? I mean, considering the repuation (which we are led to believe) These kids should be able to kill people with their hands or whatever tools they have, has any one snaped and assulted some one? Hell im in boy scouts and my Scout master taught me how to kill some one with a sharpened peice of rubber.[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-06-20 12:58 ]"
It shows the kids who are sent to these programs aren't really as evil as they would like us all to believe. Being in a program helps you appreciate your freedom, and murdering someone risks your freedom for a verrry long time. Why don't you ask how many of us have thought about killing staff, and see how many responses you get. :skull:
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i know what isay can be confusing as to what side im on... but this is just plain obsious. why lower yoursleves even by thinking about this, to their standards as to wanted to kill or hurt a wwasp person. isnt that abuse in its self. for those who have edured their abuse, u have every right to be pissed, but y would u want to do the very same ur trying to prevent?
In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
--Thomas Jefferson 1798
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THE FBI IS PROBABLY MONITORING THIS SITE. DONT TELL ANYONE WHAT YOUR GOTING TO DO
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"GOING"
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(http://http://www.electrato.com/graphics/Ashcroft-1984.jpg)
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On 2005-06-20 13:36:00, leleNtom wrote:
"i know what isay can be confusing as to what side im on... but this is just plain obsious. why lower yoursleves even by thinking about this, to their standards as to wanted to kill or hurt a wwasp person. isnt that abuse in its self. for those who have edured their abuse, u have every right to be pissed, but y would u want to do the very same ur trying to prevent?In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."
--Thomas Jefferson 1798
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Sorry to call ya out like this, but thought control and thought crimes are a big fat load of bullshit. They are free and I am free to think about WHATEVER WE WANT TO.
How you act upon those thoughts are what counts. Personally, have I ever thoguht about how nice it would be to off a few of the bastards in my life? Hell yeah I have, who hasnt! But guess what, I havent even so much has punched them in the face, no matter how deserving they are.
Now, back to the point, maybe you should consider *WHY* someone would think about offing their parents for being sent a program, shouldnt you? War is God?s way of teaching Americans geography.
--Ambrose Bierce (died 1914)
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Oh, enough w/ the paranoia already! Yeah, Scary John may have had somebody reading this forum. Maybe not. They certainly wouldn't tell me if they were.
I think this is a worthwhile topic. I don't know much about the CEDU line, but I can tell you some of the history of the Seed-based programs.
I do know of one kid who beat his mother to death w/ a baseball bat. But that's just one out of how many tens of thousands? I think that was just him, to some extent.
Far more common is just venting in various ways.
I know the DFAF has gotten the occasional angry, accusatory phone call over the years. One of their office staff mentioned it in an interview a few years back. I guess she just didn't understand how bad that makes them look.
And I've heard of several different people who occasionally drop by to moon Virgil or The Semblers.
Always, there were rules and legends about the evil druggies coming to the building to wreak havok. And, occasionally, someone would throw a rock or bottle or shout something out in the parking lot.
But that's about the extent of it, as far as I know. But they do seem to be a bit twitchy about it. Here's a delightful account of one program vet's chance encounter w/ an executive staffer.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#18413 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=2862&forum=7&start=0#18413)
For three days after death, hair and fingernails continue to grow but phone calls taper off.
-- Johnny Carson
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THE FBI IS PROBABLY MONITORING THIS SITE. DONT TELL ANYONE WHAT YOUR GOTING TO DO
Im not going to do anything you jack ass, I was just wondering because people have been hurt so bad how many have tried to kill the people that hurt them, and im not just talking parents, im talking the people behind it the teachers, workers, exeutives.
but this is just plain obsious. why lower yoursleves even by thinking about this, to their standards as to wanted to kill or hurt a wwasp person. isnt that abuse in its self. for those who have edured their abuse, u have every right to be pissed, but y would u want to do the very same ur trying to prevent?
I like to think of it as more justice than abuse, though I have had thoughts about kneecapping them and letting them lay there squerming for a while before I administer the killing blow to their families then them.... (yeah I have anger issues, when someone hurts my friends I hurt them back alot worse)
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Sorry that was me, forgot to log in.
"Now, I'm a walking dead man," ... "And what bothers me is that I'm dead because I tried to help the kids. And it's all the fault of all those people over there at the DEA." [Dead Man Talking]
--Ben Guillory
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On 2005-06-20 12:51:00, OverLordd wrote:
"Well the question is in the subject, answer with what you know, have there ever been any assassination attempts"
The abusers, themselves, seem to think it is a distinct possibility. Robert Lichfield doesn't like being photographed: he doesn't want people to know what he looks like. At the WWASP vs PURE trial they hired a special security team. They even called the FBI on a French TV crew. Well, they were foreign so they were obviously terorists. :roll: I also hear Willa Bundy carries a gun everywhere.
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Robert Lichfield doesn't like being photographed: he doesn't want people to know what he looks like.
Hehe, and I was looking for a picutre of him earllyer to, haha, I was wondering why I couldent come up with anything, and damn, im a search maters.
I also hear Willa Bundy carries a gun everywhere.
And who is he/she (Sorry the name is alittle ambiguous.For myself, I do not believe in any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities.
--Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist
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Sometimes Bob Lichfield can't help being photographed. Here he is at the WWASP vs PURE trial:
http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php? ... ID2=qkVXzE (http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php?idx=0&file=images/badguys.jpg&&ID2=qkVXzE)
I don't think the water bottle was a deliberate attempt to hide his features but I wouldn't recognize him if I bumped into him in the street.
Willa Bundy runs the Thayer Learning Center where Roberto Reyes was killed.
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Willa Bundy runs the Thayer Learning Center where Roberto Reyes was killed.
Killed how?
WWASP vs PURE trial
could some one tell me a general date of this trail, and what its was about, as well as what the judgement was.Question with boldness even the existance of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat
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On 2005-06-21 06:58:00, OverLordd wrote:
"Killed how"
You will find plenty on Thayer Learning Center and Roberto Reyes here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=39&1081 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewforum.php?forum=39&1081)
Roberto Rayes fell ill at the TLC boot camp. His condition was later determined to be rhabdomyolysis. This is caused by the breakdown of muscle tissue and can result from, among other things, severe exertion, trauma, and heatstroke. The kids are forced to exercise vigurously for 12 hours a day and this could cause any of the above.
When he became too ill to exercise he was locked in a closet lying in his own excrement. He was like this for several days. They never bothered to call a doctor. They didn't even call 911 until 5 minutes after he had stopped breathing.
At the autopsy multiple bruises and grazes were found on his body. It looked as if he had been dragged along the ground.
The coroner ruled that he had probably died from a spider bite dispite the fact that:
1. Spider bites do not cause rhabdomyolysis.
2. There was no bite mark visible on his body. Well, I guess it must have been difficult to find among all those bruises. :roll:
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On 2005-06-21 06:58:00, OverLordd wrote:
could some one tell me a general date of this trail, and what its was about, as well as what the judgement was"
Sue Scheff doesn't like WWASP. She likes to make herself out to be the good guy but she runs PURE, which is an agency that refers to other programs. Anyway she and a bunch of her frineds started dissing WWASP on the net. WWASP sued her and PURE for libel and lost.
Here is the PURE press release:
http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/press ... giant.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/press_release_mom_defeats_corporate_giant.html)
And this is a description of the trial.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=40#59596 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6282&forum=9&start=40#59596)
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Thanks!
Drug War tells us everyone's body is common property
to be managed by the central government for our own
good, even if it kills us. This is Communism!
Drug Policy Foundation of Texas
--Bob Ramsey
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All former WWASP staff should fear for their lives, when you abuse teens and children- they grow up and tend to remember exactly what happened.
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On 2005-06-21 06:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Sometimes Bob Lichfield can't help being photographed. Here he is at the WWASP vs PURE trial:
http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php? ... ID2=qkVXzE (http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php?idx=0&file=images/badguys.jpg&&ID2=qkVXzE)
I don't think the water bottle was a deliberate attempt to hide his features but I wouldn't recognize him if I bumped into him in the street.
Willa Bundy runs the Thayer Learning Center where Roberto Reyes was killed."
Whose website is this?
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Why does it matter?
As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money. What's important is that you continue to do so.
--Hunter S. Thompson's Samoan Attorney
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Yeah, why does it matter?????? Whatever, sooner or later somebody will get frusterated, and take matters into their own hands.
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lol i like this picture better, with the guy shoving the camera right into his face
http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php? ... ID2=ruhDIN (http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php?idx=0&file=images/badguysII.jpg&&ID2=ruhDIN)
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Bob is all the way to the right of the photo.
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On 2006-04-05 23:05:00, Sentinel wrote:
"lol i like this picture better, with the guy shoving the camera right into his face
http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php? ... ID2=ruhDIN (http://www.wwaspinfo.com/wst_page4.php?idx=0&file=images/badguysII.jpg&&ID2=ruhDIN)"
Want to hear something funny? I worked for a company whose CEO was that fat, lying dirtbag shyster, Alan Kipnis.
He robbed the shareholders blind and left me holding that bag answering questions like "What happened to my money?" Or, "Where's my two million dollar investment? What did you do with my money?"
While this was going on, fatass was building himself a nice new house in Florida, incarcerating his own kid at Tranquility Bay and not answering calls.
A week after I met with the board and the shareholders to discuss our losses and our plan to recover, Alan ordered me to lay off my entire workforce and padlock the doors of my office.
I never heard from him again, except when he tried to deny unemployment to all of my staff.
What a low-life scumbag!
Small world, huh?
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Small world indeed. What is it with Florida? It seems like someone can escape to Florida, declare bankruptsy, and they can't touch their home. What is that law, I forget?
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Florida's like a third-world country that way.