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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 15, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
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My son tells me that you got in contact with him to clarify if I got him fired, well that says alot you tried to find the truth before you typed. I am all about 100% honesty and i am an extremely grateful person by nature. That is what makes me love cheryl i am grateful for how she helped chris and other kids. So you have my thanks and gratitude i believe in giving credit where credit is due. However your friend Joyce has tried to blame everything that happened with those run away kids on my son and she wouldnt care what happened to him if it got her off the hook. He is barely 18 she will soon know how much i love my son and her followers will know the true joyce. I didnt respond when you told me your parents were in a cult because i could not imagine what that was like for you to grow up like that and i just want you to know how sorry i am that you went through that. No matter how different our beliefs are about cheryl i want you to know that i wish things would have happened differently for you and i know you may not believe in prayer but i prayed for you that night. I prayed that the horrible things like i have heard about happening to kids(waco) and so many others didnt happen to you and if they did i prayed god would protect you from those scars. mary
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You people are nuts. I can't believe you stand up for these people, (the Sudweeks). The Sudweeks are corrupt and evil people. They are taking advantage of desperate parents, who appear incapable of getting control of their children. Instead of taking responsibility for your children and being a parent, you turn your children over to complete strangers. Shame on you!
Lady you need to wake up and get in the real world and not rely on other people to raise your child. Are you that horrible of a parent, that you can't even raise your child right. What is your problem, why are you such a failure? Parents, like yourself should stop reproducing. Society can't handle any more off your children. You and your children with your reckless and irresponsible behavior are the ones who are destroying our communities.[ This Message was edited by: 007burd on 2005-06-15 10:44 ]
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again you have no idea what you are talking about my son is grown and in college and my other son is a straight a student training for the jr olympics. Get your facts straight. I clearly have raised my children. My older son when to whitmore at 17 and a half before that he went to college in the 3rd grade with the gifted program and was a representative from our country in brazil and a jr leader picked by faculty to be the peer counselors against drugs, he then went to a prep school because our high school had no classes for him advanced enough and there he was introduced to pot so i sent him to cheryl rather than see him go down that road. mary
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Mrs. Gentile,
You need to be very careful about blaming other people about your son's behaviors. Very very careful.You are way out of line, and you know it.
Some people may keep careful documents, and you don't want your son to be in any more trouble than he already is.Too many phone calls and too many lies have been told already.
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Mary. Why did you send him to Ivy Ridge?
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Mary, why is Chris talking to many people in private messages on this site who are NOT friendly to the Sudweeks? People do have written communications from your son, you know.
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Mary, you son't not doing "double agent" real well. Not well at all.
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Wonder who told that TALL TALE about Chris getting fired because some CRAZY MOTHER called his employer and said he'd kidnapped 3 boys ages 14 from some nice boarding school in Utah. Now who would make up a story like that???? Know who I heard it from....heard it from Chris himself.
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Joyce dont attempt to threaten me or my son anymore the documents are of you buying plane tickets and sending them money not my son you manipulated by the way joyce you have way to many skeletons in your closet to threaten anyone. Its great being from texas isnt it and its even better having so many friends with connections, shall i start posting some of those skeletons now? Is it time to share with the class? YOU should have never used my son lady and he did nothing against the law you did. Just so you know everything you thought was a secret, I KNOW!!! mary
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Again he was not talking about me when he said that about his employer, ginger you know the truth chris told you it wasnt me speak up please.
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Why don't you women act your age? You are acting like teenage girls. Why do you find it necessary to creat all sorts of drama? Is drama something you need in your life in order to feel that you have some type of value?
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burd i think you are right about the acting your age part but if you are a mom yourself and someone is hurting your child, you want the truth out there and you want to stop them from hurting them mary
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Move on, ignore it. You are just adding fuel to the fire. If more the one person is saying the same thing about your child, then it is probably true. Denial, lady you are living in it!
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Mary, you are totally out of line directing posts to Joyce Harris directly with threats. You might want to register, and send her a private message. It has been stated here clearly that all she did was perhaps pay for tickets. You appear to be involving your own son with your own words. You may should talk privately, and find out WHO called Joyce Harris requesting the money for the tickets, MAYBE? WHERE those boys went to in CHICAGO....WHO they stayed with there, etc...etc...etc... YOU MAY WANT TO BE QUEIT while you are a little bit ahead.
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Mary is an insane, bitter, and neglected person who needs to be ignored.
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there are 7 lawyers in my family and i have made no threats how ever it is not illegal to post truth.
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No, she seems to not have the full story and is angry and upset and trying to protect her son, who seems to have a problem with telling the truth. Chris is talking to a lot of people and is telling different stories to EVERYONE. He helped Alex escape from Whitmore just a few days before these boys ran. SO why is it so hard to believe he instigated these boys into running away, and just used this well-known advocate MOM Joyce as the MONEY-PERSON. Makes good sense to anyone who is not emotionally involved in the issue.
If Mary will just step back and think it through, she will figure it all out.
These are kids, and kids do dumb things.
And Joyce Harris seems to believe that Whitmore is an abusive facility....so if she agreed to help these kids, THEN someone had to have told her a pretty outrageous story to get her involved at any level.
And Chris seems to be a rather outrageous story teller.
And let's face it---he did break this girl Alex out of Whitmore just days before these boys ran.
Sounds like Mary needs to have a heart-to-heart talk with son Chris before she goes off on Joyce Harris!
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Seven lawyers, and you claim you are honest. I highly doubt it. Lawyers aren't known for being honest.
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Joyce was the adule and she manipulated those kids and i have her on my home answering machine long before the kids ran away. It doesnt matter what chris said to joyce she lied to him and told all kinds of stories. mary
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burd do you really believe there is not 1 honest lawyer?
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Well, just rant and rave then Mary.
Was just looking at thing from another angle.
Knowing Chris helped Alex escape....sure puts things in a different light from this point of view.
Makes not sense what- so -ever the way you are presenting things.
If I was one of those parents of those boys--I would sure want to be talking to your son. You can bet those boys will be talking and revealing who they were with during their little adventure, THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT. KID TALK!
Out of here!
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There are very few. Most politicians are lawyers.
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alex was someone he cared about very much and he thought he was helping her and her own mother will tell you that. Do you remember that age and loving someone in that way chris is very loyal to his friends. mary
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Why isn't your son on here defending himself? Does not have the balls to do that?
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defending against what?? mary
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Do you feel the Whitmore Academy should remain open and the Sudweeks have done nothing wrong?
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He did a good thing. Alex is out of Whitmore, is home and is not going back. HOORAY for Chris.
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burd are you talking to me mary
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burd where you at whitmore or do you have a child that was? mary
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Yes my question is for you Mary.
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Mary: JUST why did Chris help Alex leave Whitmore. WHY was that ok?
Why is it NOT OK that Chris helped this boys leave Whitmore then?
You are very confusing.
Chris said the boys were suppose to call the parents from his apartment. If they changed their minds and didn't call home, then Chris is not to blame, right?
Why didn't the boys call their parents??
Did Chris have them tied up and gagged?
Chris had them right there in his apartment in Chicago---did he have them captive or something?
Who invitied them to THIS CONCERT everyone is so upset about? Chris claims he was working there.
So it stands to reason---it was your son's idea.
These are CHRIS STORIES, mind you.
IF Whitmore is so wonderful----why did these boys leave in the first place?
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Mary, Chris ran away when he was at Whitmore.
Why did Chris run away from the Wonderful, Wonderful Whitmore?
WHY DID HE RUN AWAY???????
Seems lots of kids run away from the loving Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks.
Wonder why?
Wasn't he missing for about a month?
MY MY MY
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On 2005-06-15 13:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Again he was not talking about me when he said that about his employer, ginger you know the truth chris told you it wasnt me speak up please."
I don't know that. You said it was bs. I responded that that was good to hear and that I hope it's the truth. Never did get a response of any kind from Chris (who contacted me, btw)
Hope that one kid who's still out there is OK. Also still holding out frail hope that the other two didn't get sent back or to some worse place.
To regard Christ as God, and to pray to him, are to my mind the greatest possible sacrilege.
--Leo Tolstoy, Russian revolutionary