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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 14, 2005, 09:12:00 AM
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If you went to csa in the last 2 1/2 years... say you did and what family you were in!!! if you saw someone or heard someone get beat.. or just knew something about it let me know... i have proof and i want to use this for a petition!!! thanks!!! this should help out with getting thr truth out!!! i let you know more once more kids let me know their story...
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http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carol ... ticle.html (http://www.helpyourteens.com/news/carolina_springs_academy_article.html)
http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/Tee ... rolina.htm (http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/TeenHelp/carolina.htm)
http://www.free-times.com/archive/cover ... chool.html (http://www.free-times.com/archive/coverstorarch/defiantschool.html)
http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancip ... prings.htm (http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/emancipation/stories/carolina-springs.htm)
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The "St. Patrick's Day Parade" was not the first visit by state officials to Abbeville County and would not be the last. Opened in the fall of 1998, Carolina Springs was pressed into service to accept a large number of children from Morava Academy in Brno, Czech Republic when Czech State Police arrested two Americans and two Czech employees for Child Torture and Violation of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child.
In response to the arrests, WWASP rallied parents and accused the Czech authorities of "reverting to their communist past", with majority owner Ralph Atkin noting that dealing with the Czech's was "like dealing with the KGB." WWASP closed the school and transferred children to other of its facilities, a large number of them to Carolina Springs.
CSA received its first cease and desist order from the Department of Social Services on October 30, 1998 and the program has been in turmoil since that time. While the Department of Social Services recently agreed to continue its hearing requesting an injunction, the Department of Environmental Control issued its own cease and desist as has the County of Abbeville.
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that obvioulsy doesnt help.. you gotta say if you went to csa in the last 2 1/2 years and witnessed any of this stuff
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On 2005-06-14 09:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"that obvioulsy doesnt help.. you gotta say if you went to csa in the last 2 1/2 years and witnessed any of this stuff"
What kind of petition are you working on? Maybe if you reveal some details about what you're planning, people will be more willing to come forward. WWASPies have been known to pretend to be critics, and solicit stories of what's really going on in their gulags, so they could report them to WWASP and WWASP could figure out some excuses to defend themselves and their cult. That's why many people are reluctant to talk about these things with posters (anonymous posters in particular) who claim to be working on "petitions" or "lawsuits" or whatever.
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On 2005-06-14 09:08:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-14 09:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"that obvioulsy doesnt help.. you gotta say if you went to csa in the last 2 1/2 years and witnessed any of this stuff"
What kind of petition are you working on? Maybe if you reveal some details about what you're planning, people will be more willing to come forward. WWASPies have been known to pretend to be critics, and solicit stories of what's really going on in their gulags, so they could report them to WWASP and WWASP could figure out some excuses to defend themselves and their cult. That's why many people are reluctant to talk about these things with posters (anonymous posters in particular) who claim to be working on "petitions" or "lawsuits" or whatever. "
whatever... its because i know some grads and they email me saying that what im doing is wrong.. i should be defendin that school...cuz i went there... im just trying to prrove what i know is true...its like back up in a way i guess. by the way.. wwaspies? oo.. they know about this site?
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On 2005-06-14 09:10:00, Anonymous wrote:
wwaspies? oo.. they know about this site?
Aw, hell yeah! I'm told that Fornits is required reading in their legal circles. :wave: In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong
--John Kenneth Galbraith
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seriously? how come they dont just have it shut down?
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You honestly believe WWASP is that powerful dont you? Thats sad.
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What truth? What is this petition for?
There are many documented cases of abuse on this forum and elsewhere, just search. Not everyone comes on here checking this forum, in fact very few ex-students do unfortunately.
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no not powerful... but dont you think that if somene was talking about you mad shit.. you;d do something about it? pretty much it goes like this... my girl says first handedly she was beat...i need someone saying they were there and knew about it.... im wrting any aritcle to post some where else for parents who have been asking me about the school. im like hey i dont know too much just what ive been redin but ill find it out. kind of like an investigator. but if yall dont want to help its straight.
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arent you the same poster as the CSA supporter trolling the boards the last few days? You sure type and sound like that person. Why are you trying to 'prove' abuse, when just yesterday you were trying to prove there is no abuse. I dont get it. :???:
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On 2005-06-14 09:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"arent you the same poster as the CSA supporter trolling the boards the last few days? You sure type and sound like that person. Why are you trying to 'prove' abuse, when just yesterday you were trying to prove there is no abuse. I dont get it. :???: "
who? what does typing have to do with it... you mean uhh sportsluv chick... no im not her. i do know who she is though.
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OKAY...... BEWARE OF DOUBLE AGENT HERE PEOPLE :flame:
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On 2005-06-14 09:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"OKAY...... BEWARE OF DOUBLE AGENT HERE PEOPLE :flame: "
whats a double agent? why would i be the same person trying to help? that doesnt make sense. what would be my motive? why in the hell would i want to suport that school after what it did to my friend? uh yeah
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im sorry if you really are being sincere, which I doubt. if you are, please tell us what happened to your friend, there is a crazed graduate here who insists nothin bad happens at CSA. Have you seen that crazy troll..?
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no.. i havent. of course i have. theres two of them, both of which were there forever right?
yes im being sincere. good word. well... she told me that her parents sent her there and she was there for a good minute. she said the frst day she got there they found weed on her and she freaked when they tried to take it away and told her parents they had to leave. they had male staff to the dorm and dragged down the hallway or w/e. and twisted her arm up behind her and was jabbing their knees into her back. she said that the upper levels were all standing around yelling at her and calling her names and shit. i mean theres more... but pretty much thats what happen to her. so part of me is like ok damn that sucks and then part of my sont reall believe it. would this school really do something like that? does it sound like abuse to u? maybe im blowing it out of proportion.
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would this school really do something like that? does it sound like abuse to u? maybe im blowing it out of proportion."
Yes, that is abuse, and yes, it happens in WWASP facilities all the time. It's a regular occurance in the program.
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ok well see there... im looking for people who may have witnessed it or been there while she was there or something... shes been home a good while.
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what if you know some one was molested and nothing was done about it. i tried to tell one kid who went there but he didnt believe me. its nasty and its happened to me... not while i was there but before i went to csa and i think that something should be done. how do i do something since no one else believes me
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On 2005-06-14 09:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"seriously? how come they dont just have it shut down?"
Because they can't. The social principles of Christianity preach cowardice, self-contempt, abasement, submission, humility, in a word all the qualities of the canaille.
--Karl Marx, German economist and political philosopher
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On 2005-06-14 11:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"what if you know some one was molested and nothing was done about it. i tried to tell one kid who went there but he didnt believe me. its nasty and its happened to me... not while i was there but before i went to csa and i think that something should be done. how do i do something since no one else believes me"
I think the best thing you can do is to spend some time looking up people who you knew when you were there. You'll probably want to set up a special email address just for that so that you can give out contact info. That address will likely get spammed to death w/ email from zealots of every stripe. So you just hook up w/ the ppl you want to find and then delete the account when it's served your purposes.
But do be mindful of trolls and scams. No kidding, I've heard from more than a few parents and kids who thought they were talking to journalists when really it was a lawyer working for one of the schools.
The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected.
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