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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 14, 2005, 01:17:00 AM
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Just saw the broadcast on KSL in Salt Lake. Cheryl says there were 20 kids graduating in May.
How is it those 20 completed all the requirements for graduation in such a short time with such limited classes? Especially, when the kids are working most of the day? I'm confused. Just doesn't seem like the education offered at Whitmore is worth the $40 or $50 thousand the Sudweeks charge. I mean, that's close to what you pay to go to Stanford University.
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Saw that news clip too.
What's with Cheryl constantly wipping her dripping nose on her hand??
LITTLE cocaine drip problem?
TWEAK TWEAK TWEAK
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maybe because the kids finished in such a short time because they were almost done. DUH, thats how most kids graduate. And maybe...JUST MAYBE..there were teachers that taught at other schools that came. One taught at Juab, the other one..who was the principle taught at many other schools, as with the other teacher that taught english and history. MAYBE THATS HOW!? :wstupid:
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well if you are questioning if the kids are educated i will certainly volunteer my child to take your test against other high school grads from different schools in fact to clarify he placed out of 3 college courses and by the way did i mention this student graduated from whitmore
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who in the world keeps saying Tweak Tweak...it gets :smokin:
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Well, let's see, if a kid's stay there is a year, and there were no teachers until about five or six months ago, English, Math, History and Science were not taught every day, nope, doesn't add up, at least, not to the standards in my state.
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you are right...I graduated, but I did online shcool there..which was available for the kids that were there then..whether they did it or not was their choice..that could be done then before they got accredited and all that stuff. (well it was more of the parents choice)
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I know of several Whitmore "grads" who have diplomas that aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Proven fact!!!!
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mine got me into college..im enrolled for next spring
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Okay, and that's why I've been accepted into one of the country's top universities, right?
Ha. Some people really don't know what they're talking about. :roll:
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YOU trying to say Whitmore is a REAL SCHOOL gets pretty old too!!!
But just like Cheryl got charged with child abuse.....
The authorities of Utah will take care of the ACCREDITATION of that little PRETEND SCHOOL and false transcript too.
Later, we will come back here and post:
"TOLD YOU SO." OK?
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On 2005-06-14 10:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"YOU trying to say Whitmore is a REAL SCHOOL gets pretty old too!!!
But just like Cheryl got charged with child abuse.....
The authorities of Utah will take care of the ACCREDITATION of that little PRETEND SCHOOL and false transcript too.
Later, we will come back here and post:
"TOLD YOU SO." OK?
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Okay by me, since (1) that will never happen, and (2) you're obviously immature enough to do so if it did.
I've seen the forms proving Whitmore is accredited. The teachers are real teachers with real degrees, who teach in real classrooms and give kids real assignments, which they really do and get real grades, and in turn they end up with real credits, leading to a real diploma.
Wow, amazing how that works, huh?
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how are you going to tell someone like me "told you so" when Im enrolled in college for the spring, have the letter from teh admissions office right in front of me, and they have a copy of my transcript? Hmm. You wont be telling me anything..so back atcha. TOLD YOU SO
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On 2005-06-14 08:16:00, mouse wrote:
"Okay, and that's why I've been accepted into one of the country's top universities, right?
Ha. Some people really don't know what they're talking about. :roll: "
Oh, really, which university might that be?
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On 2005-06-14 10:31:00, mouse wrote:
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On 2005-06-14 10:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"YOU trying to say Whitmore is a REAL SCHOOL gets pretty old too!!!
But just like Cheryl got charged with child abuse.....
The authorities of Utah will take care of the ACCREDITATION of that little PRETEND SCHOOL and false transcript too.
Later, we will come back here and post:
"TOLD YOU SO." OK?
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Okay by me, since (1) that will never happen, and (2) you're obviously immature enough to do so if it did.
I've seen the forms proving Whitmore is accredited. The teachers are real teachers with real degrees, who teach in real classrooms and give kids real assignments, which they really do and get real grades, and in turn they end up with real credits, leading to a real diploma.
Wow, amazing how that works, huh?
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Well, we all know how almost anything can be produced on that little computer of Cheryl's, now, don't we. A form mean very little.
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perhaps someone who said you arent educated if you came from whitmore would like to put up or shut up. My child will test against any of your high school test. Hey ex whitmore students who would you like to send to represent whitmore education???
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call the Nebo School District. Ask if the Whitmore was accredited from 2003-2004. Speak to Scott Wilson.
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I don't understand how children from Whitmore could get into college when there is no school in which they can be linked to in order to take the SAT's or ACT's... those are both standardized tests in which students in high school need to take in order for a college to even think of accepting them! Especially top universities... So what were each of your SAT or ACT scores? And getting into a top university in the spring doesnt mean much,sorry... But you can be put on their waiting list and be placed in the spring, but that still does not mean you were one of their top choices to come directly into the school, that means you had to go to some other classes in order for them so place you... Oh and besides most top universities dont like enrolling students in the spring, its a known fact and especially since I am doing so much research on schools because I am personally finding one for myself to go into once I grad. The things you are saying dont hold facts... Now present them, your SAT or ACT scores... Please :smile:
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DO you really think:
Candidacy Status of Accredidation which is "RED FLAGGED" is really a superior deal?
That's the status of Whitmore Academy!
Go check it out.
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i took the SAT at the highschool where I live once I got back. I havent gotten my scores back yet, because I just took it, and I am ENROLLED for Spring. Ive got orientation soon, the SAT took 3 hours, and they took teh analogies out and put an essay in. Sure, when I get my scores back I will share if I find it appropriate, but it really is no one else's business. And to add to all of this, who said I was going to a TOP UNIVERSITY? (or are you talking abuot Mouse). Anyways, all i know is that I was excepted into school, and I am attending in the Spring, and it is not one of those country/agricultural schools.
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Good for you. I hope you did well on the SAT. I understand the new writing element is difficult, and that the scoring is "controversial," so I hope you do well. Good luck in whichever college to choose. You are lucky that you returned home to high school, and are not trying to enter college DIRECTCLY FROM WHITMORE. I think that is where most are having difficulty.
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actually the new SAT takes 4 hours, but good try! At least you knew they took out the analogies, but tech. they didnt because they just replaced them with more of the sentences...
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again since you think you are so smart how about testing against someone else.
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Oh, and about the girl who came back to a new high school... I was mainly asking the students that grad. from the whitmore how they could have taken the SAT's, because I know you need what they call a "home school" so you can sign up for them.. I too hope you did well on the SAT'S let me know what you got if you don't mind! I would like to know what others around the country are getting because now they dont really know what the average/ good/ bad scores are, if you know what I mean... GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
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HECK---and I believed this STUDENT? and was so proud of the effort.
Was I just lied to???????
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believed what student? and how were you lied to??? Explain??
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If there is any kind of structured classes at Whitmore, it has only been in the last few months, hardly time to get kids college-ready.
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Was just telling that student: so glad you took the SAT...going to good college etc etc.
Then the next posting contradicted the student's posting: said the SAT actually took 4 hours, not 3 hours, and so forth.
So was wondering if this student lied?
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no i didnt lie, and i am going straight intol college from the whitmore. I went to my old highschool to take the test where everyone in the city takes it. No, you werent lied to, and thank you for wishing me luck. I appreciate it. I never said I know everything to get into college, and I never said that I agree with everything the Sudweeks do. I have been sticking up for my friends who are being put down on here, and I am hoping that I get into college. This has nothign to do with the Sudweeks, it has to do with me adn my future. People automatically assume I have taken sides, but rather this is one issue.
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How interesting, a bunch of rich white kids in suburbia complaining about getting into college. You sound like a bunch of junkies who are unable to handle a normal productive life. Get your lives together and grow up. From reading through your postings it appears the Whitmore Academy does not teach much english or grammer. You people are horrible. Why do some of you stand up for Whitmore? That place is a dump and fraud. Some of you need to come to terms with that and stop staning up for it. It looks like it will be closed and the owners will be imprisoned soon, which is good for Utah. The Sudweeks need to be stopped and punished. If the law is not going to do it, then vigilante justice should prevail.[ This Message was edited by: 007burd on 2005-06-15 11:10 ]
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Questions for anyone that knows:
1. Is Whitmore accredited? If so, by whom and when?
2. Of their alumni, what are the names of the colleges they have been accepted into (e.g. 4 year, 2 year community, tech or trade school).
3. Does the school provide SAT, ACT preparation and testing?
4. Does the school accept students who have been expelled or suspended from their own school?
5. Does the school accept students who have come into contact with the juvenile justice system or are on probation?
Here is a link to the daily schedule at Whitmore from 5:30 am to 10:30 am.
http://whitmoreacademy.com/schedules2.html (http://whitmoreacademy.com/schedules2.html)
Thank you in advance.
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To your first question, no. The parents were told it was and so were the students. It may have been accredited recently but it certainly wasn't when I was there less than a year ago.
I can't really help you with you second question, I've lost touch w/ most of the alumni. Out of the ones I've spoken to most are going to community college, one is finishing high school, and the others are just working.
Third question, NO. There is hardly anything being taught in the academic sense. I was completely unprepared for any kind of testing or to be put back in school when I got out.
Fourth Question, yes. I'd been kicked out of my high school. Plenty of the others had as well, or had been suspended.
Fifth question, yes yes yes yes. Plenty of kids there had had run-ins with the law before going there. Two claimed to have committed murder. To the best of my recollection, there was no one on probation when I was there.
Hope this helped.
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There are kids at the Whitmore right now who are on probation.
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What are the stories behind most of these kids. Why are they there? Where are they from? Are they from wealthy families? Do most have drug addictions?
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The majority of the kids there had some sort of substance abuse problem, drugs, alcohol, food, you name it. There were a few kids from wealthy families. Unfortunately, a lot of the kids parents were actually having a very difficult time paying for their stay there. Hence the total frustration with the breach of contract by the Sudweeks. A lot of the kids had been adopted, others had histories of abuse...of course it wouldn't be right to get into specifics. They had all kinds of different stories. They were from all over, I'm from Washington, we had kids from Jersey, New York, Texas, Mexico, Ohio, Loiusiana, Florida...everywhere.
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It sounds like these kids are just dumped at Whitmore, and the parents haven't done any research. It seems like the parents don't want to deal with their children. Is any government funding paying for some of these kids to be at Whitmore?[ This Message was edited by: 007burd on 2005-06-15 15:40 ]
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Seems to me this program doesn't do much advertising, how did all these parents find out about it? The Internet?
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I recently asked the State of Utah school government about the status of Whitmore's accreditation - here is the information they sent back to me earlier this month.
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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Accreditation Information
Whitmore Academy's educational program is provisionally accredited by the state of Utah and the Northwest Association of Accredited Schools. They have 3 years of provisional status until they complete all the requirements for full accreditation. They have licensed administrators and core subject teachers are all licensed and endorsed for the subjects they are teaching. Their courses meet Utah State Core Curriculum standards and objectives. As an accredited institutions their high school credits would be accepted by any other accredited school or college.
We only accredit the educational program. You will have to check with the local agencies to see if they meet code for facilities of this type.
http://www.co.juab.ut.us/ (http://www.co.juab.ut.us/) or http://www.nephichamber.com/ (http://www.nephichamber.com/)
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MOST are paid for privately.
A couple seem to be paid for by other funds--don't know how that works tho....since they are on parole. Wonder who does pay for them.
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Don't parents have a contract that says no kids with a criminal history will be accepted at the Whitmore???? Damn.
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yes they do
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I am sure the average tax payer pays for this shit.
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Isn't NW the same organization that accredits all the WWASP schools along with several schools of fish?
The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali
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On 2005-06-15 15:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Seems to me this program doesn't do much advertising, how did all these parents find out about it? The Internet?
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I'm pretty sure they rely entirely on edcons. I also supect that the edcons recruite for a LOT more small groups than we know about.All thinking men are atheists.
--Ernest Hemingway, American author
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Think it still goes back to the internet. That's where we found the ED.CON.
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Whitmore now claims to be an "Academic ONLY Boarding School, yet they have one kid who just took the GED. What's that about?
And the Suds have the kids off to Canada, and left 4 of the kids behind. Wonder why? Are these 4 kids going to "classes?" What's all this about anyway. Who's monitoring this so-called Academics Only Boarding School?
Better yet: What's a person CHARGED with criminal child abuse, and awaiting trial doing taking a bunch of kids out of the country on a trip, ANYWAY?