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Tom Cruise: Man On A Mission
POSTED: 2:31 pm PDT May 26, 2005
UPDATED: 9:35 am PDT May 27, 2005
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Tom is serious when it comes to the topic of kids on drugs.
Man on a Mission
Why did Tom Cruise sit down with Billy Bush?
"Because there is nothing more important," he said to Billy Bush. "I remember we spoke outside of the mentoring award when I received the National Mentorship Award, and we were talking about child drugging. We have a real problem in America today, where we now have 8 million kids -- the future generation is medicated. I told you I'm going right after these guys I'm going right after psychiatry and these false labels and this psuedo-science."
Tom's passion is personal.
"I was diagnosed as being dyslexic. I had a lot of energy as a child. They wanted to put me on drugs in the 70s."
But Tom's mother stood in the way and said no. "She just felt it was wrong inside if a doctor's telling her," Tom said. "My mother said 'No. Absolutely not. No way.' I am thankful. Had I been put on those drugs, I never would be here today talking to you and I never would have had the career that I am having. Never. I know that."
Tom was born in Syracuse, New York. He has three sisters. He enjoyed riding his bicycle, boating, swimming. And he wasn't exactly shy in front of the camera. He was ready for his close-up even as a child!
Although Tom attended Glen Ridge High School in New Jersey, that was only one of many schools he attended, including a seminary, because Tom's family moved a lot. He attended 12 schools in 12 years.
"My mother left my father. They are divorced. My story was one of a great mother and great sisters and a very close family."
By 1981, at age 19, Tom had moved to Hollywood and was already working in movies. He married and divorced actress Mimi Rogers, and shortly after, in 1990, he married Nicole Kidman, entering into a high-profile Hollywood relationship.
They adopted two children, Isabella and Connor. "I always wanted to be a father," said Tom.
His father's absense starting at age 12 was felt.
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Tom on his father: "He tried to do right but he, himself, didn?t have the tools."
"I always felt responsible for myself," said Tom. "I felt that. When I became a Scientologist, I reached a point of greater understanding for my father. You see, he is my father. He tried to do right but he, himself, didn't have the tools." When Tom was 21, his dad died of cancer. He continued to be close with his mother, who remarried.
Tom went to seminary school at age 14, a time when many adolescents are having some kind of awakening, discovering the opposite sex.
"I was discovering girls, also," at seminary school. But becoming a Catholic priest was not in the cards, he said.
"There was not a desire (to become) a priest," he said. "Because even when I was there, there was, you know, girlfriends or friends, that part of it. But there was an interest in religion."
Tom became a Scientologist in 1985 and began studying the technologies of L. Ron Hubbard "shortly after that," he said.
"Study Tech" is Scientology's method of learning. This personal breakthrough was right about the same time Tom's career exploded with a little movie called "Top Gun."
"I always wanted to be a pilot," he said. "And when I had 'Top Gun,' I went for one lesson and I just couldn't learn. I couldn't read and then apply what I had read. So what happened on 'Top Gun,' at that point, I couldn't get my pilot license and it was very frustrating for me. I wanted it."
Because of this study technology, Tom now has his pilot's license. He's even mastered flying to the point of aerobatics.
Tom credits Scientology with making all of that possible. And now, Tom is passing the study tech on to others through his work with the Hollywood Education and Literacy Project, or H.E.L.P.
Tom's passion for helping children learn is only exceeded by his personal crusade against doctors prescribing anti-depressants and drugs such as Ritalin to treat children.
"They said, 'Oh, you know, Ritalin is safe. It's safe. It's safe.' Ritalin is an amphetamine."
Tom believes the education of children is suffering for it.
"SAT scores have gone right down the toilet," he said. "The parents are blaming the teachers. The teachers are blaming the parents. Okay? And the psychs are putting everyone on drugs."
Tom was asked whether he believed doctors who prescribe drugs like that to people think they are doing it for the right reasons.
"You know what? I'm sure drug dealers on the street, in some way, they are making money. That's what I equate it to. Here is the thing: you have to understand, with psychiatry, there is no science behind it. And to pretend that there is a science behind it is criminal."
The American Psychiatric Assocation disagrees. They claim "....depression and anxiety are real and they are treatable. Science has shown that medications can be an important - and even lifesaving - part of treatment." But Tom is undeterred. "Am I making people aware of it by discussing it openly and saying what a fraud psychiatry is? You bet I am. I feel responsibility. Because I care, man. I care . I care about you . I care about your children .I care about these people here in this room, every one of you. And I mean it. That is not just words to me. That is a promise. You think I'm passionate? You see? That is why they wanted to drug the piss out of me!," he said, laughing.
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Tom on Scientology: "Scientology for me (is)?if you don?t understand something, it is literally because you have misunderstood words. That's all..."
Tom and Scientology
Firefighters with health problems caused by 9/11 are just one of many groups that Tom reaches out to year-round, spreading the word about Scientology's various learning and healing technologies.
But there is still one question: what exactly is Scientology? One of its biggest proponents will explain.
Tom was asked about the concept of auditing, a Scientology practice. "To audit is to listen," Tom said.
Auditing is at the core of the Scientology religion. It's a technique which uses an electro-psychrometer (or e-meter) to help measure a person's reaction to unhappy memories so they can be worked through - or "cleared." Tom acknowledged that he audits, but advised that any description he can give wouldn't convey everything necessary to understand the practice. "It is better for people to read a book and discover for themselves what Scientology is," he said.
There are perceptions and misperceptions about Scientology. Tom was asked to further explain his religion.
"Well, I will agree there are a lot of misperceptions about a lot of things in life. I don't agree that there is a general misconception or perception. I believe there are people who don't know what it is. But there are people that don't know what it is and there are people that know what it is."
What is Scientology to Tom Cruise?
"Scientology for me (is)...if you don't understand something, it is literally because you have misunderstood words. That's all. Whatever it is." Like any religion, it's not easy to sum up what Scientology is in just a few words. But it is basically an applied religious philosophy, that by helping oneself and others, you reach a higher level of consciousness. "What Scientology is, is it addresses man as a spiritual being. Okay? And it gives people tools that they apply to their lives to improve conditions. And that is what it is."
Tom was asked about the perception that Scientology requires its initiates to pay to attain higher levels of consciousness.
"Here is the point, said Tom. "I wouldn't be here today where I am (without it) and it is things that I apply to my life to help me improve my conditions that actually help me to be able to think for myself, to be able to make the decisions. I use it and I apply it and when you talk about things, those are lies. And really, when you get down to it, you know there are bigots. There are people that just want to hate, period. No matter what. Right?"
The church was established in 1954 by science fiction and "Dianetics" writer L. Ron Hubbard. It Years later, Scientology received tax exempt status as a religion, which means it exists only on donations by its members. To date, it's hugely profitable and global, boasting 3,200 churches in 154 countries."
Is Scientology a faith or is it a religion. Tom was reminded that the average person thinks of church, they envision houses of worship, prayer, of God or other deities.
"It is a religion," said Tom. It is not a matter of, 'There is no God.' There is a God, okay? But there are things where there are...that is why I say you have to read what Scientology is, because it is non-denominational. There are Jewish Scientologists. There are Christian Scientologists. There are Baptist Scientologists."
But the powerful church is not without its detractors. Some claim that it is over-aggressive in recruiting and employs mind-control, escalating fees. Some go so far as to call it a cult.
"What it comes down to is, ''What do you know?' I don't care about what other people say. I don't live my life based on what other people think. I should do okay. I live my life based on what I know is right for myself . And what I care about is other people. And I care about my family and I care about the world and I wanna see it a better place. And I don't care what people say. I know what Scientology is. It is extraordinary, what it has done."
Tom Cruise's Opinion About Psychiatry
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"You think I'm passionate?" Tom laughs.
A Scientologist like Tom will tell you that there are few things more dangerous than the widely accepted fields of psychology and psychiatry. You may not necessarily agree, but this is a man who is certain he is right and has no fear of offending those who swear they have been helped in their lives by psychiatry.
"You know, you have really got to evaluate what their lives are like," said Tom. "Getting your children or yourself off these drugs, its is a dangerous dangerous business! I have recently helped family have their daughter get off drugs."
Tom said his young friend had been on prescription drugs for the attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder ADHD from the age of three-and-a-half to seven. Weaning her off was no easy task."
"We stepped the child off the drugs, got her vitamins and food," he said. "She has calmed down now and she has grown seven inches in about four months. This is just one story of people that myself and other people have helped. And it is imperative that, even when people watch this, I've helped step them off. I have an easier time stepping people off heroin then I do these psychotropic drugs. They can have Grand Mal seizures. They can become suicidal. You have to do it under medical care, under a doctor and (with) vitamins because any drug you put in your system is a poison. Any drug is a poison."
Tom was asked about drugs like Paxil and conditions like post-partum depression and he did not hold back his opinions.
"Let me tell you something: it is not a cure and it is actually lethal. These drugs are dangerous... There is a hormonal thing that is going on that is...scientifically, you can prove that. But when you talk about emotional chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that."
Brooke Shields, with whom Tom co-starred in "Endless Love," recently wrote a book about her own bout with post-partum depression following the birth of her daughter, Rowan. She wrote about the drug treatment that helped her through it.
"Look at her life," counters Tom. "Here is a woman - and I care about Brooke Shields because I think she is incredibly talented - (but) you look at where has her career gone? It has helped her. When someone says it has helped them, it is to cope. It didn't cure anything. There is no science. There is nothing that can cure them whatsoever."
Tom was asked if he meant drugs had cost Shields her career.
"Well, you look at people," he said, trailing off...."Look - is she happy? Is she really happy?"
Tom went on to say, "What you can do with vitamins and exercise to help a woman through that, to help someone through that, all right. She doesn't know what these drugs are and for her to promote it is irresponsible. And I wish her well in life. (But) it is irresponsible to do that."
Tom takes an equally no-nonsense approach when it comes to the business side of his career. Last year, Tom stunned Hollywood by splitting from his long-time publicist, Hollywood legend Pat Kingsley, the stately woman who had been by his side for 14 years helping shape his career and image.
Billy asked Tom if the catalyst for the move was the fact that his representation at the time suggested that speaking about Scientology and his beliefs publicly was bad for his career?
"No," Tom said adamantly. "Absolutely not. I've always spoken about Scientology. I've always discussed it. Okay? It's something that, when I make a decision, it's based on what I feel is correct. What I feel is right. You have to understand, I've always made my own decisions. Okay? The people who work for me, I allow them to work for me. I hired them. So if I don't feel that they are doing what I need from them -- and I give people lots of room and lots of chances cause I want to see people do well, I care about them -- and if they're not doing it at a certain point, it's like, 'Hey...' I fire them."
Tom Cruise boasts a lifetime box office gross total of $5 billion dollars.
Yet Tom still makes the time to help others.
"You just have no idea what it's like being me and all the people that want help. All the people that call that I talk to at 2 a.m. that ask for advice."
How do they reach him?
"They do call me I give them my number. People know that they can call me. They are respectful, actually. They don't waste my time. They say, 'Look, I need help at this. What should I do?' And I help them. I have nothing to gain. I just want to see people do well. I like seeing actors do well and directors and film makers. I've never felt competitive with other artists. It's always okay. I go out of my way to try to help them. Okay? That's not something that happens. I'm applying Scientology to them, whether they know it or not, so that they are doing better in life. Because it gives me pleasure to see people do well."
Tom was asked about the Scientology tent on the set of his upcoming film, "War of the Worlds." Is understanding Scientology and its tenets part of doing business with Tom Cruise?
"Well, if someone says they want to know who I am," he said. "What I find is that people are interested and they want to know. When I say the invitation is there, they jump at it. They want to know."
Are his strong beliefs hurting his career?
"Billy, here's what happens...okay? It is the exact opposite. People have thanked me. I get so many letters from people thanking me. Thanking me for their children and for themselves. It is the exact opposite!"
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Only Tom Will Tell
Tom CruiseTom: 'I Love This Woman'
In Part I of our exclusive Access Hollywood interview with Tom Cruise, the star lays it on the line for the new lady in his life.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/entertai ... etail.html (http://www.accesshollywood.com/entertainment/4520180/detail.html)
How Tom Did It
Having overcome learning disabilites himself, Tom shows Billy how he is personally helping children in need in Part II of our Tom Cruise exclusive.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/4526509/detail.html (http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/4526509/detail.html)
Tom: 'Nic Is Not A Bigot'
In Part III of his exclusive Access Hollywood interview, Tom Cruise talks about ex-wife Nicole Kidman.
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Tom: A Man On A Mission
In the final chapter of our conversations with Cruise, Tom talks about Scientology and his beliefs about psychiatry and drug treatments.
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Scientology; too wierd for Michael Jackson. :silly:
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Tom Cruise...very very GAY, big time Pole Smoker
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Nope ...
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They criticize other medical modalities,
and criticize individuals right to make
their own medical decisions.
They misqoute facts, create their own
unfounded facts and worst of all ...
don't show excellence by example!
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Tom is right....once they set Xenu free...he will take care of all that silly nilly corruption. Forget ADD....we will have intergalactic warfare on our hands!
We cant very well have a generation of medicated children fighting for interstellar freedom.
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Has Tom being so will now to speak about Scientology
influenced anyone at Fornit's to stop by a Dianetics center and join Scientology.
Not me.
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Tom's popularity polls are going down,
the more he evangelizes Scientology ...
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Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes
Jun 17, 10:45 AM (ET)
By SOPHIE NICHOLSON
(AP) Actress Katie Holmes smiles after her boyfriend Tom Cruise announced their engagement during a...
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PARIS (AP) - Tom Cruise popped the question to Katie Holmes at the Eiffel Tower early Friday and then announced the news to the world - they're getting married.
Cruise turned to Holmes: "What did you say, darling? She said, 'Yes.' ... I've never actually been to the Eiffel Tower and I just, it's Paris, you know. It's beautiful, a beautiful city. It's very romantic. I'm excited to be here."
No wedding date has been set, Cruise said. "We haven't discussed that - one step at a time."
The couple, who went public with their romance in April, often shared smiles and blushes as Cruise turned to look at Holmes, who was seated nearby. The 26-year-old actress, who was wearing a massive diamond ring on her finger, didn't speak to reporters.
(AP) Actors Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes arrive at the premiere of "Batman Begins" Monday, June 6, 2005,...
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"Today is a magnificent day for me, I'm engaged to a magnificent woman," the 42-year-old Cruise said.
"It was early this morning at the Eiffel Tower, so I haven't slept at all."
At one point, he whispered to Holmes: "Are you OK?" Afterward, they hurried into a car before leaving for a promotional event in Marseilles, southern France.
Cruise was in Paris to promote the French release of "War of the Worlds" next month. Holmes was in London earlier this week to publicize her new movie, "Batman Begins." Both actors have dismissed speculation their romance is a publicity stunt.
"I wish them the happiest marriage that anyone has ever had," said 11-year-old Dakota Fanning, who sat next to Holmes during the news conference. Fanning is Cruise's co-star in the Steven Spielberg film.
It would be the third marriage for Cruise and the first for Holmes. He was married to Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman; Holmes had been engaged to actor Chris Klein.
Holmes has said she's embracing the Church of Scientology - Cruise's religion. The former star of television's "Dawson's Creek" has said she grew up wanting to marry Cruise.
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On 2005-06-17 07:08:00, Paul wrote:
"Tom's popularity polls are going down,
the more he evangelizes Scientology ..."
Dam Dude are you infatuated with Tom Cruise or what, who cares if he preposed. Dam I'll bet your place is filled with gossip magazines and Top Gun Posters.
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Perhaps you could ... not read it?
Voluntarily, of course.
Hmmm, hey let me know what topic are acceptable and which one's are not so I don't upset people
with your mindset, ok? Let me know?
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Oh, I am sorry I didn't address you cordially.
Your name is Anonymous, correct?
Just don't read the things you don't like.
Inform Fornit's of the issues that should be
banned or controlled. Simple, right?
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Katie Holmes' 16 Missing Days
The newly engaged Katie Holmes still has some explaining to do to her friends and family.
There are 16 missing days on her calendar from April 2005. No one seems to know where she was during that time.
Holmes made a public appearance on Monday, April 4 at the premiere of "Steel Magnolias" on Broadway. She came with her publicist, Leslie Sloane Zelnick, and a couple of other friends. They were there to support Rebecca Gayheart, who was making her Broadway debut.
I know this because I spoke to Holmes at length during the play's intermission. She said she had just moved into her New York apartment and was looking forward to seeing the city.
I also know that on April 4, she had not yet made the acquaintance of Tom Cruise. She briefly dated Josh Hartnett after breaking up with actor Chris Klein.
Hartnett, Klein, Cruise: Which of these three is not like the others?
Klein and Hartnett are young and tall. Cruise is middle-aged and height-challenged.
On the other hand, he's the biggest movie star in the world. They are not.
Holmes was busy during that first week in April. On Thursday, April 7, she was photographed at the Fragrance Foundation's FiFi event.
Four days later, Holmes was still in New York and was photographed at VH1's "Save the Music" concert. She still had not met Tom Cruise.
Sometime that week, her friends say, she flew to Los Angeles for a meeting with Tom Cruise about a role in "Mission: Impossible 3." The meeting took place after April 11.
The next time anyone heard from Katie Holmes was on April 27, when she appeared in public as Cruise's girlfriend and love of his life.
Where was she during those 16 days?
Somewhere during that time she decided to fire both her manager and agent, each of whom she had been with for years and who were devoted to her. The manager, John Carrabino, also handles Renée Zellweger and is beloved by his clients.
Holmes also acquired a new best friend, Jessica Feshbach, the daughter of Joe Feshbach, a controversial Palo Alto, Calif., bond trader.
The Feshbach family, according to published documents, has donated millions to the Church of Scientology. Jessica's aunt even runs a Scientology center in Florida.
According to Richard Behar's now famous 1991 story in Time magazine about Scientology, the Feshbachs were the subject of congressional hearings in 1989.
Behar wrote: "The heads of several companies claimed that Feshbach operatives have spread false information to government agencies and posed in various guises ? such as a Securities and Exchange Commission official ? in an effort to discredit the companies and drive the stocks down. Michael Russell, who ran a chain of business journals, testified that a Feshbach employee called his bankers and interfered with his loans. Sometimes the Feshbachs send private detectives to dig up dirt on firms, which is then shared with business reporters, brokers and fund managers."
The risk-taking Feshbachs, known the world over for making their fortune "shorting" stocks, and the level-headed, conservative Holmeses would be a difficult mix at a dinner table.
Katie's father, Martin Holmes, is the senior partner in a large and respected Toledo, Ohio, law firm. His son, Martin Jr., has recently joined the firm. He's a Harvard graduate. Katie's mom, Kathy, is frequently cited in Toledo for her charity work.
There is some fear among Holmes' close circle that her instant romance with Tom Cruise is not as organic as portrayed.
For one thing, Holmes was raised a strict Catholic. Also, gone from the picture are two close Holmes friends who used to be with her when she did publicity for a film. One of these is Meghann Birie, a childhood friend who has suddenly disappeared from Katie's world. Another, a local TV producer here in New York, was too afraid to discuss the situation with me.
We know that Cruise auditioned several actresses for this role before settling on Holmes. This column reported a story about Jennifer Garner. There have been published stories about Kate Bosworth, Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Alba being approached. A newer one involves Scarlett Johansson, who ran for her life when presented with a fait accompli dinner at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood.
And history has been rewritten since the April 27 unveiling.
Curiously, since the Cruise-Holmes situation popped up, we have heard over and over again that Cruise was the young actress' idol when she was growing up.
That's certainly interesting because all of the publicity that used to run on Holmes ? still found all over the Internet ? lists another Tom as her favorite actor.
That would be Tom Hanks .
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Ahhhhhhhh so what who gives a shit
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On 2005-06-21 11:43:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ahhhhhhhh so what who gives a "
I guess you do ...
You are the one reading this thread :smile:
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I thought Katie Holmes was John Holmes daughter. You know the one with the big... ?
Maybe not! :idea:
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One curious side effect of effective thought reform is the loss of a sense of humor:
http://thebosh.com/archives/2005/06/tom_cruise_to_s.php (http://thebosh.com/archives/2005/06/tom_cruise_to_s.php)Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.
--James Madison, U.S. President
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07.04.2005 Arianna Huffington
A Pill for Every Ill
I'll take my teachable moments anyplace I can find them. even if it means jumping into the middle of the celebrity spitting match between Tom Cruise and Brooke Shields.
And thanks to Tom and Brooke, and Tom and Oprah, and Tom and Matt ("You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do!"), this is certainly a teachable moment to be grabbed by those of us who have been raising our voices for years (I've written 14 columns on the subject about the epidemic of mood-altering drugs being prescribed to our kids.
This is a whole different debate than the Cruise-Shields dust up over antidepressants in general -- but it's truly an urgent one, with over a million children on Prozac and its equivalents, and more than six million on Ritalin. And record numbers of kids are put on these powerful drugs even as the FDA, increasingly wary of their side effects, has issued a "black box" warning on antidepressants after studies found that children taking them were twice as likely to have suicidal tendencies. (And, as we saw with the Vioxx case, the FDA doesn't make these kinds of moves easily -- or quickly.)
Although there are undoubtedly children who are properly diagnosed as clinically depressed and are legitimately prescribed antidepressants, as a country we've now gotten into the habit of treating childhood as a disease. Indeed, the official psychiatric diagnostic manual describes as symptoms of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder "squirms in seat," "interrupts or intrudes on others," and "is often on the go." Sounds a lot like...uh, childhood -- a condition that -- when left untreated -- tends to cure itself over time.
And it doesn't help to have the giant drug companies spending more than $3 billion a year on advertising designed to convince us that happiness is just a popped pill away. Locating our children's problems exclusively in the chemistry of their brains (and cost-conscious HMOs certainly prefer prescriptions to therapy), only means that we never help them learn to navigate their emotions. And as Dr. Peter Breggin pointed out on huffpost today, the effects of many of these drugs we give to our children "are similar to the effects of amphetamine, methamphetamine, methylphenidate, and cocaine." Isn't it a supreme irony that we have no problem turning our kids into legally drugged up zombies at an earlier and earlier age and then expect them to just say no to illegal drugs down the line?
If the unintended consequence of the Tom and Brooke celebrity duel is to throw some light on what we're doing to our children, then all the sound bite fury will have been worth it.