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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 12, 2005, 02:34:00 PM
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You should have called their parents and let them be responsible for the decisions concerning their kids.
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Until you know the circumstances, don't make judgements. Look at what Chris' mother is doing to him. She is siding with Cheryl over her own son. What makes you think the parents of these boys would not have done the same?????
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sure..maybe their parents would have sent them back..and i know that is why they probably have not gotten in touch with their parents..because they didnt want to go back..but what joyce did was wrong as well. Now the kids parents are running around hectic worrying about their kids..just like joyce worried when she came and got her own daughter..so she knows the feeling as with any adult who has kids. She should have not bought that ticket..which it is also proved...just as much as Cheryl has been charged, that she did get that ticket. That is also illegal. I still wonder about that woman too when half of the kids saw her yank and then push zita down the stairs at the mansion because her daughter did NOT want to leave. It id funny how she also got her daughter right around the same time she found out her daughter was telling all the kids how her mother beat her and her dad spanked her..hmm...anyways, it doesnt matter, nothing can be done about that now..until Zita reports her in AGAIN to CPS..her own daughter..hmm..strange, but my point is just the fact that it was also not legal for buying those kids that ticket as they are minors, and she can get in trouble for that too. Im out
-Sarah
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Sarah, assuming that someone actually has some convincing evidence that Joyce bought tickets for these kids (doubtful, but for the sake of argument, ok) what law do you think she broke?
I think the human race encountered Peak Intelligence decades or centuries ago. The human race has been degrading into imbeciles ever since.
Eric Hufschmid
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assisting a minor...hey..it was the cops who called the airport and they said Joyce Harris was the one who paid for it..eh, i doubt anything is going to happen to her..im just saying that it was wrong.
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Assisting a minor in fleeing abuse is neither wrong or illegal. But, of course, this is all hypothetical. I believe Joyce paid for airline tickets about as much as I believe Leah stole a horse from the Suds.
Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.
James Madison, "A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785
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well it doenst matter to me whether it is believed or not..it doesnt affect me, but the cops..the one who doesnt "like" the whitmore or whatever is going on with that got involved in finding those kids, and that is how it was found out. The horse thing with Leah..who knows? I dont really know, but from what Leah told me when I was with her in the program, was that they brought the horse up there that she has had for quite some time, and gave it to the Sudweeks since they got it for free in the first place, and she was going to get another horse..which she did, but then sold it.
-Sarah
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Even if it was her horse, she neglected to provide the funds necessary to feed and care for it. Therefore, she still owes. It was a pretty long time that thing was here and the Sudweeks cared for it out of their pockets.
Because they didn't want to NEGLECT or ABUSE the animal.
Now doesn't that say something? Hmmm, looks like someone needs their thinking chair... :roll:
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Sarah:
THIS IS A LIE.
It has already been PROVEN by Offier Wright that Mark Sudweeks is a LIAR and Joyce Harris never pushed her daughter OR anything abusive at the Whitmore.
THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE>>>>>
It has been proven to be an OUT RIGHT LIE on this site over and over and over....
GO PLAY THIS LIE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!
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Why the DEFLECTION GAME???
Cheryl Sudweeks is the one charged with child abuse!!!!!
NOT Joyce Harris.
Get it!! OK?
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get your facts strait ginger call the FBI it is a crime
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You can't make someone believe something opposite than what they saw with their own eyes.
I'm not sure if Sarah was there, but I was, and Joyce Harris was extremely rough with her little girl and did throw her down the stairs. Zita did refuse to leave the Whitmore, and Harris did drag her out to the car.
I think a witness at the scene of this crime when it occured is a lot more reliable than this "he said she said" bs.
Get over it. You're wrong, okay?
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On 2005-06-12 13:14:00, mouse wrote:
"You can't make someone believe something opposite than what they saw with their own eyes.
Oh yes, you absolutely can! If you have adequate control of the group, communication and behavior, you can make damned near anyone believe whatever you want. Here's a good read on how that works:
http://www.factnet.org/Thought_Reform_Exists.htm (http://www.factnet.org/Thought_Reform_Exists.htm)The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
-- John Adams, (1772)
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Right alongside with UFOs, right? And aliens; do you believe in those, too?
Give me a break. I've seen crap of that type before. So it's occured in major, obsessive cults a few times through history; I'll give you that. But I'm sure it would happen in Nephi, UT, in a boarding school of all places. Riiight...
By the way, everyone at Whitmore could easily rebel if they felt threatened. But they don't. So they aren't.
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On 2005-06-12 13:25:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-06-12 13:14:00, mouse wrote:
"You can't make someone believe something opposite than what they saw with their own eyes.
Oh yes, you absolutely can! If you have adequate control of the group, communication and behavior, you can make damned near anyone believe whatever you want. Here's a good read on how that works:
http://www.factnet.org/Thought_Reform_Exists.htm (http://www.factnet.org/Thought_Reform_Exists.htm)The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
-- John Adams, (1772)
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Great link Ginger ... man, if some of these folks would only put down the koolaid .... they just might learn something.
Group mind control. That's what these programs are all about. Robbing kids of their innocence and their individuality.
Very much like a P.O.W. camp.
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On 2005-06-12 13:36:00, mouse wrote:
"Right alongside with UFOs, right? And aliens; do you believe in those, too?
Give me a break. I've seen crap of that type before. So it's occured in major, obsessive cults a few times through history; I'll give you that. But I'm sure it would happen in Nephi, UT, in a boarding school of all places. Riiight...
By the way, everyone at Whitmore could easily rebel if they felt threatened. But they don't. So they aren't."
You aren't very smart Mouse ... otherwise you would understand it's the program that manipulates the children, not the other way around. Seriously, I can't believe you didn't know this ... especially is you are a former resident of a special purpose boarding school.
Key Words:
SPECIAL PURPOSE.
Think about the implications of those 2 words ... maybe the light will go off?
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Look at that site. It's one of those dumb things geeks read after checking their mailbox for the latest copy of The Inquirer.
I never said the kids manipulate the program. I'm saying they could all just rebel one day if they wanted to and there's the end of it. I know those kids and I know they'd do just that if there was abuse going on.
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On 2005-06-12 16:58:00, mouse wrote:
"Look at that site. It's one of those dumb things geeks read after checking their mailbox for the latest copy of The Inquirer.
I never said the kids manipulate the program. I'm saying they could all just rebel one day if they wanted to and there's the end of it. I know those kids and I know they'd do just that if there was abuse going on."
Do some fact checking ... the majority of programs suppress uprisings by breaking the kid's spirit in the first 30 days. Sounds to me like you really don't understand the process at all. Perhaps that is a blessing?
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On 2005-06-12 16:27:00, Anonymous wrote:
Great link Ginger ... man, if some of these folks would only put down the koolaid .... they just might learn something.
Group mind control. That's what these programs are all about. Robbing kids of their innocence and their individuality.
Very much like a P.O.W. camp.
Ty. I hope some ppl will read it and take it to heart. It is very like a POW camp. Also very like a Maoist school or block monitor program. Also very much like an old tyme Bible revival; all goodness and glory till the charismatic evangelist has left town w/ all the money, leaving a few bastard children behind.
It's not anything spooky or mysterious. This is a very common part of human interaction. Everyone should know about it and be able to recognize it when they see it.
Freedom has a thousand charms to show, That slaves, howe'er contented, never know.
William Cowper, a British Christian poet & hymn writer (18th century)
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Let me just set you straight. Leah's horse had been used by the Sudweeks the whole time they had it -- for free. Leah did not take her because she had been threatened on this forum several times and was advised by me not to go out to Nephi until we could find someone to go with her, which we did, and she was also accompanied by the Nephi PD. We bought her another horse to ride in the rodeo at UVSC. That horse has not been sold. Whoever you get your information from does not know what they are talking about. Whatever the Sudweeks spent feeding Leah's horse wasn't much. When she was picked up, you could see every bone in her body. She was checked out by a vet two days after Leah got her. He said she was under weight, needed to be wormed and did not have shoes.
Let me ask you a question. How many puppies, dogs, cats or kittens died while you were at the Whitmore? I personally know of quite a few. I took a starving kitten to the pound because I could not take it with me on the plane home. When I gave it food, it ate so fast the food was coming out of its nose.
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OMG .. this is just heartbreaking!
How can anyone make excuses for someone who would mistreat/neglect animals? It's beneath contempt.
Thanks GMom, you are obviously a very caring and decent human being.
I hope and pray the people responsible will never be allowed to mistreat animals or children ever again.
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you are amazing!!!! here we go again... if people don't agree with your oppinion, they are bashed right here in front of us. yet you have the nerve with your physco grandma, to cry about being humiliated, because someone had the nevve and told you the ACTUAL truth about yourself. The truth hurts dont it. so lets just go cry abuse to someone so we can all live in your lies! nooooo you are such very sick people, i cant believe anyone is actually entertaining your sick thoughts. ITS SO SAD TO THINK SOMEONE ABUSED ANIMALS. but lets just outright torture tear up SPIT OUT {not at} the sudweeks. HAVEN'T YOU GOT EARS OR EYES TO READ..most people LOVE them. not the love you know. you poor thing. but real love that most of us learned here at the whitmore academy the place you are doing very well to destroy. but there must be opposition in all things. you know good and evil? you evil! you are so proud of this. its almost retarded to see how many times you post it. like we wont see it. hey, we are not stupid like you. We can see! we see some very sick probably fat from sitting on their ass at the computer all day, should i be kind and say older PEOPLE finding some kind of pleasure trying to make people believe whats good is bad. You are barking up the wrong tree. we have learned a word you know nothing about. LOYALTY! We love our parents we love our friends we love america we love our higher power and we LOVE MARK AND CHERYL. in their imperfect perfect way! go get a life or go to hell you are really bugging me. hypicriticle lying foul evil people. how really really sad you must be. me
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Anon- if this is an example of the "Real Love you learned at the Whitmore- telling people to "go to Hell"???- then you need to go and READ A BIBLE- cuz YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED ANYTHING about love.
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On 2005-06-12 23:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"you are amazing!!!! here we go again... if people don't agree with your oppinion, they are bashed right here in front of us. yet you have the nerve with your physco grandma, to cry about being humiliated, because someone had the nevve and told you the ACTUAL truth about yourself. The truth hurts dont it. so lets just go cry abuse to someone so we can all live in your lies! nooooo you are such very sick people, i cant believe anyone is actually entertaining your sick thoughts. ITS SO SAD TO THINK SOMEONE ABUSED ANIMALS. but lets just outright torture tear up SPIT OUT {not at} the sudweeks. HAVEN'T YOU GOT EARS OR EYES TO READ..most people LOVE them. not the love you know. you poor thing. but real love that most of us learned here at the whitmore academy the place you are doing very well to destroy. but there must be opposition in all things. you know good and evil? you evil! you are so proud of this. its almost retarded to see how many times you post it. like we wont see it. hey, we are not stupid like you. We can see! we see some very sick probably fat from sitting on their ass at the computer all day, should i be kind and say older PEOPLE finding some kind of pleasure trying to make people believe whats good is bad. You are barking up the wrong tree. we have learned a word you know nothing about. LOYALTY! We love our parents we love our friends we love america we love our higher power and we LOVE MARK AND CHERYL. in their imperfect perfect way! go get a life or go to hell you are really bugging me. hypicriticle lying foul evil people. how really really sad you must be. me"
This post is seething with hatred. Please get help for your issues.
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OH MY the cult does speak: GOOD VS EVIL
the basis of the cult speak.
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eh...right towards the end..leah and I still talked..so i got my info from Leah, and maybe..just maybe i found out about her selling her horse with an ad of hers that had umm lets see, her, the horse, and her tack on it. Leah always told me that Teza couldnt be shod or something..I dunno, i didnt understand it, and we did make desperate attemtps to fatten that horse up too, and you all know that..come on, kids loved Teza..so it wasnt abused. Maybe she decided to sell that horse because seh couldnt rodeo at UVSC because she um..whats it called. DROPPED OUT. Just food for thought. haha
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Teza was never sold. Leah never "dropped out."
One day you people may learn not to repeat Sudweek lies. ONE DAY, maybe. The Judge's decision will be made public, so wait and see.
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ok...im just repeating what I heard from the "horse's mouth." So if these are lies..then they are Schacherer lies..haha. I never said that Teza was sold..im talking bout that Paint.
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The paint is not sold. Shod means putting shoes on the horse, which Leah probably told you that it needed to be done. The Sudweeks used Teza because she is so good with kids, especially kids who have never ridden. We know and proved in court that she was ridden and used in the so-called equine therapy by the Sudweeks. Jeff verified that fact to the judge.
And one more fact you might not be aware of, Teza belongs to Leah's great aunt, and there is no way that her aunt gave up ownership of that horse to the Sudweeks. We have written proof of that, which was presented in court.
Threats of physical harm were made to Leah because she was speaking about her experience at Whitmore. Again, we did not want her going anywhere near Nephi.
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One more FACT that you have wrong. Leah completed one semester at UVSC. She did not drop out. Be careful about the so-called facts you think you know, because so far every one you have stated is wrong.
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Poor girl, MOUSE--she's repeating what Cheryl told her most probably. That's the problem, they BELIEVE CHERYL and haven't figured out that Cheryl is a LIAR.
Like these kids ---except Courtouse, Tha Truth, Former Student, and Chris G-- haven't figured out how Chery OPERATES:
Cheryl pits kids against kids: she tells these kids lies about each other. She tells these parents lies about their OWN KIDS. She tells these kids lies about THEIR PARENT.
Cheryl seems to thrive on destroying relationships.
WHY: so the kids will "love" her and only her.
NOW, isn't that crazy?
And Cheryl claims to be reuniting families, and helping these kids to learn to build friendships.
Really scary isn't it?
Just look at what is happening to Mary Gentile and her son Chris---just who do you think is causing all the problems between this woman and her son??? JUST GUESS?
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whos threatenin her?!?! not me..im sayin what she told me...i know what shod means..ive got a horse..thanks. Well im glad she completed ONE semester..shes making improvement..how about a second semester? Well then I guess know one bought her Paint. But her ad was up with it and the tack for sale. I saw it. Pretty horse..just a tendency to take off.
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Mouse .. you need to wake up and smell the horse manure. You are being manipulated. Get out of Utah and go back to the real world ... where you belong.
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If only there were evil people somewhere, insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
--Alexandr Solzhenitsyn
VERY TRUE!
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On 2005-06-13 09:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Poor girl, MOUSE--she's repeating what Cheryl told her most probably. That's the problem, they BELIEVE CHERYL and haven't figured out that Cheryl is a LIAR.
Like these kids ---except Courtouse, Tha Truth, Former Student, and Chris G-- haven't figured out how Chery OPERATES:
Cheryl pits kids against kids: she tells these kids lies about each other. She tells these parents lies about their OWN KIDS. She tells these kids lies about THEIR PARENT.
Cheryl seems to thrive on destroying relationships.
WHY: so the kids will "love" her and only her.
NOW, isn't that crazy?
And Cheryl claims to be reuniting families, and helping these kids to learn to build friendships.
Really scary isn't it?
Just look at what is happening to Mary Gentile and her son Chris---just who do you think is causing all the problems between this woman and her son??? JUST GUESS?"
guess what? i have news for whoever has their perception wrong. i can honestly say that when i was at the whitmore, i can't remember even one incident where cheryl lied to me, parents, or kids, trying to get them to turn on each other. it's absolutely absurd. in fact, the reason the whole place works is because it's built on honesty and trust. and, guess what, for your information, i have never had a better relationship with my parents, even since i was a little kid. just a few minutes ago, my mom came and told me how proud she was of me and how much she loves having me around. also, my mom is the type that would've yanked me right out of the whitmore if she knew anything was going on. she was then have a lawsuit, and being the smart woman she is, actually do something about the mistreatment. but, she's read the crap on the internet and refuses to even look at it because it makes her sick. it does to me to, and the reason i'm writing this now is because i feel it's my obligation to stand up for what i believe in and who i care about. it's like watching your little brother get beat up at school. so, don't say things that you can't back up, because i'm living proof that you're wrong. stephan
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I know Stephan's mom, and that's so true. He would have been out of there in a second if she even suspected abuse of any kind.
And anon, I belong wherever I choose to be. And I choose that, not any of you.[ This Message was edited by: mouse on 2005-06-13 14:22 ]
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Oh, one more thing... as for threatening Leah, she's got what she deserves coming to her, called HELL, so no one needs mess with that. Destiny has a way with evil, and it's not a good one.
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Threatening bodily harm is against the law. I don't know who you are, but you don't seem to know a whole lot between right and wrong.
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On 2005-06-13 14:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
also, my mom is the type that would've yanked me right out of the whitmore if she knew anything was going on. stephan"
Freudian slip?Janis, Jimi, Gery, Timothy... Did you HAVE to get so close to the edge to get a really good view?
-- Anonymous
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On 2005-06-13 14:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Threatening bodily harm is against the law. I don't know who you are, but you don't seem to know a whole lot between right and wrong."
Fucking save it. You got AMF on here threatening Cheryl and Mark with "dirt naps" and threatening to take "gangland" rob "out"....yet those itty bitty threats seem to just go over your head.....probably because AMF is "justified" huh? Fucking pathetic.
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this all seems to reflect from jyce harris and her criminal behavior
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On 2005-06-13 15:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"gangland" rob "out" AMF is "justified" huh? Fucking pathetic."
well dear, easy on the ears....."I'll be out back with gangland ROB"..........get it right sweetheart........AMF
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plus, after Ginger's nice post about bully INMATES.............I stated:
"2005-06-10 19:56:00
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strong Ginger....sound and sincere....worth reading several times........good luck Rob..AMF"
sounds like a little love sweatheart.......ADULT leadership...SUDWEEKS the snake charmers are the issue....easy does it.......ya the SUDWEEKS are slime....need to do time.......crimes against children.....dirt naps seem like fair raps...............problems with that????.............lOOk out...GORILLA ordering double taps..............AMF
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What "criminal" behavior. State the law.
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Someone want to state exactly what law was broken?
First of all, the boys were not forced to leave Whitmore, they did it on their own. Where were they for the two days they were in Nephi -- before they boarded the plane, train or bus?
Why did they leave Whitmore? Boredom? So what?
But, I don't think so. Look at the history of kids that leave and are taken back -- one girl was forced to stay in "the room" in the same clothes for over a week -- no shower -- no bathroom without an escort -- every meal served to her was spit on.
Then there are the two girls who ran and were taken back and beaten up by another student, with the approval of Cheryl.
Then, of course, there is the story of Joey, the beating he took, and his assisted help down the stair by Cheryl.
Then there is another boy, he too was assisted down the stairs by Cheryl.
The abuse goes on and on.
IT'S TIME TO FOCUS ON WHY THESE BOYS LEFT WHITMORE, NOT HOW THEY LEFT.
DO THEIR PARENTS KNOW OF THE ABUSE CHARGES AGAINST CHERYL? WHY WOULD A PARENT TAKE A CHANCE WITH THE SAFETY OF THEIR CHILD? IF THE STATE FEELS THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO BRING CHARGES, YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THE CHARGES ARE TRUE. WHAT KIND OF PARENT TAKES THAT KIND OF GAMBLE?????????WOULD THEY NOT RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY?
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well granny..since you are so deadset on getting facts str8 about Leah..get facts str8 about my friends. The "two girls who ran away." Neither of them were beaten. Casie punched Hannah in the face...nothing was condoned, and Casie always looked for the chance to get her two cents in. You know those little dogs who will run up on bigger dogs thinking they are all tough? That is exactly what Casie was. Then they realize they arent once they get their crap tossed around and piss themselves..yup, thats what Casie was. Ask Leah..she will vouche on that one. Leah didnt like that girl either. All I am saying is that you need to get some things right...if you are so deadset on everytihng about Leah being right. I can already see what you are going to ask me about the other kids you mentioned, but I was there..but not there (know what I mean) so I have no room to talk about those. (not looking to argue, just stating.) Thanks.
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no its time to focus on why one person has the right to decide to keep them from there parents is joyce harris god
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no its time to focus on why one person has the right to decide to keep them from there parents is joyce harris god
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no its time to focus on why one person has the right to decide to keep them from there parents is joyce harris god
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On 2005-06-13 20:43:00, Gmom wrote:
"Someone want to state exactly what law was broken?
First of all, the boys were not forced to leave Whitmore, they did it on their own. Where were they for the two days they were in Nephi -- before they boarded the plane, train or bus?
Why did they leave Whitmore? Boredom? So what?
But, I don't think so. Look at the history of kids that leave and are taken back -- one girl was forced to stay in "the room" in the same clothes for over a week -- no shower -- no bathroom without an escort -- every meal served to her was spit on.
Then there are the two girls who ran and were taken back and beaten up by another student, with the approval of Cheryl.
Then, of course, there is the story of Joey, the beating he took, and his assisted help down the stair by Cheryl.
Then there is another boy, he too was assisted down the stairs by Cheryl.
The abuse goes on and on.
IT'S TIME TO FOCUS ON WHY THESE BOYS LEFT WHITMORE, NOT HOW THEY LEFT.
DO THEIR PARENTS KNOW OF THE ABUSE CHARGES AGAINST CHERYL? WHY WOULD A PARENT TAKE A CHANCE WITH THE SAFETY OF THEIR CHILD? IF THE STATE FEELS THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO BRING CHARGES, YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THE CHARGES ARE TRUE. WHAT KIND OF PARENT TAKES THAT KIND OF GAMBLE?????????WOULD THEY NOT RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY? "
Amen! Sounds to me like it's the parents, not their children, who have a lot of explaining to do.
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That's exactly where the focus needs to be. They keep burning these little straw-men in the path to the real issue. WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE? Kids don't just wake up with bruises on them. I'd feel the exact same way as them if I had gotten that treatment.
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First of all, my name is not "granny," but I assume you are referring to me. Second, my information did not come from Leah, as she was not at the Whitmore when most of those incidents took place.
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On 2005-06-14 04:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"well granny..since you are so deadset on getting facts str8 about Leah..get facts str8 about my friends. The "two girls who ran away." Neither of them were beaten. Casie punched Hannah in the face...nothing was condoned, and Casie always looked for the chance to get her two cents in. You know those little dogs who will run up on bigger dogs thinking they are all tough? That is exactly what Casie was. Then they realize they arent once they get their crap tossed around and piss themselves..yup, thats what Casie was. Ask Leah..she will vouche on that one. Leah didnt like that girl either. All I am saying is that you need to get some things right...if you are so deadset on everytihng about Leah being right. I can already see what you are going to ask me about the other kids you mentioned, but I was there..but not there (know what I mean) so I have no room to talk about those. (not looking to argue, just stating.) Thanks."
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On 2005-06-14 06:10:00, Tha Truth wrote:
"That's exactly where the focus needs to be. They keep burning these little straw-men in the path to the real issue. WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE? Kids don't just wake up with bruises on them. I'd feel the exact same way as them if I had gotten that treatment.
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On 2005-06-14 04:31:00, Anonymous wrote:
"well granny..since you are so deadset on getting facts str8 about Leah..get facts str8 about my friends. The "two girls who ran away." Neither of them were beaten. Casie punched Hannah in the face...nothing was condoned, and Casie always looked for the chance to get her two cents in. You know those little dogs who will run up on bigger dogs thinking they are all tough? That is exactly what Casie was. Then they realize they arent once they get their crap tossed around and piss themselves..yup, thats what Casie was. Ask Leah..she will vouche on that one. Leah didnt like that girl either. All I am saying is that you need to get some things right...if you are so deadset on everytihng about Leah being right. I can already see what you are going to ask me about the other kids you mentioned, but I was there..but not there (know what I mean) so I have no room to talk about those. (not looking to argue, just stating.) Thanks."
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I agree all the way with that one.
One more thing, to granny... ask Leah how many kids she hit, how many times she humiliated others at the Whitmore? How young was one of the guys she screwed here, while she was how old? I think it was maybe 13 and 17? You know that's called statutory rape, and you know that's a crime? Poor little Leah, right... poor Leah, she never does anything wrong. The little saint.
How pathetic.
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On 2005-06-14 06:10:00, Tha Truth wrote:
"That's exactly where the focus needs to be. They keep burning these little straw-men in the path to the real issue. WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE? Kids don't just wake up with bruises on them. I'd feel the exact same way as them if I had gotten that treatment.
If I was treated the way a lot of people around this forum are talking about, believe me, I would've run away the first chance I had. I don't take bs, and Whitmore is no exception. If I'd been treated badly, I would've left. If I somehow hadn't been able to, I'd be telling the world right now if things of the abusive sort did go down.
I like the Whitmore. It's a pretty cool place to be.
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Why the deflection, anger and cruelty towards Leah and her family? Sad game you are playing here young lady!
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it takes one to know one..hmm? It is the same game that this forum is playing. It is one big game: someone's word against another.
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It is not a game to say this type of thing about a girl and her family from my point of view anyway. What is the point of doing that?
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One more thing, to granny... ask Leah how many kids she hit, how many times she humiliated others at the Whitmore? How young was one of the guys she screwed here, while she was how old? I think it was maybe 13 and 17? You know that's called statutory rape, and you know that's a crime? Poor little Leah, right... poor Leah, she never does anything wrong. The little saint.
How pathetic.
Well, Miss Mouse, probably about as many times as you did. But then neither you nor she are running a school for teenagers who have been put into your care and are now charged with abusing those very kids, now, are you?
This screwing that supposedly went on, was it a group affair? Must have been, since you seem to know all about it. By the way, you were at the Whitmore for what reasons????
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Where's your mom or granny? Maybe we can ask her all about YOU!
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well lets see why would they leave money and concerts. hello
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On 2005-06-14 17:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Where's your mom or granny? Maybe we can ask her all about YOU!"
If you read my post again, I was telling granny to ask Leah some things she should know about her granddaughter. I wasn't asking her things about Leah. If I wanted to know anything, I'd go straight to her, not her family.
On 2005-06-14 12:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well, Miss Mouse, probably about as many times as you did. But then neither you nor she are running a school for teenagers who have been put into your care and are now charged with abusing those very kids, now, are you?"
I really doubt I could break Leah's records on inflicting harm on kids at Whitmore. But you're right, neither of us are running a school for teens.
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On 2005-06-14 17:57:00, mouse wrote:
On 2005-06-14 17:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Where's your mom or granny? Maybe we can ask her all about YOU!"
If you read my post again, I was telling granny to ask Leah some things she should know about her granddaughter. I wasn't asking her things about Leah. If I wanted to know anything, I'd go straight to her, not her family.
Miss Mouse, what makes you think you are telling anything I don't already know? And what difference does it make to you. Again, Leah has not been charged with abuse, have you? The real issue is really not you or Leah. If you both had been model citizens you would not have been at the Whitmore in the first place. So young lady, there is nothing you can tell me about Leah that I probably don't already know. And if I don't, I don't really care. Makes no difference to me.