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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:32:00 PM
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Rob: here's your own little topic.
What's it like to beat up a little kid who is tied and gagged and can't fight back?
Why did you need back up for this kind of fight?
HUH?
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uh..you moron..rob wasnt even with joey that night..he liked him. -Sarah
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if i did that id tell u dont u think? - gangland rob
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On 2005-06-09 13:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"uh..you moron..rob wasnt even with joey that night..he liked him. -Sarah "
get real Sarah........one night???....how about the other 59???.........DIRT CLOD will be spoken to on many future occasions.......in court, in depo's, and OUT BACK............right lawyer JACK??
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people who dont know shit should keep they damn mouths SHUT...none of yall was there so dont be actin like u know ROb or sumthin, get a damn life
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umm..MORON..Rob liked Joey..ask him yourself..you idiot
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yo im still here, still waitin 2 hear your name, you know so much what u scared of?
-gangland rob
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No one's scared here.
No cops after anyone here....
Can you say that, ROB?
Gonna go to jail for MAMA CHERYL?
She will sell you down the river boy!
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actually pretty good.....takes some sKILL to be a hack........hacking the words are you???....I applaud.......who knows...who cares....can't wait to document the shARES.........rubber meets the road.............honest your honor, I was just doing what I was tOLD..........$$$$$$
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then why cant you say your fuckin name..if your not scared?
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Many witnesses from many states...ROB!
The worst witness against YOU will be MAMA CHERYL herself. She will blame you boy! Sure she will....ROB has such an anger problem...just can't control that boy! Lord, knows I tried!
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yea wutever u say boss...yo start makin sense 2 me cause u sound dumb. and yea, im at home so what u hiding for? - gangland rob
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Rob's too OLD to cop that plea.
Can't say I WAS JUST DOING WHAT I WAS TOLD.
He's responsible. He's of age.
Ha ha ha!!!
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witnesses of what..youre a damn fool? cant be a witness if ya cant say ur damn name..you fuckin ignorant bitch
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What you doing at home Rob? Hiding out from the old gang? Heading to cowboy land?
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better than fuckin moron land..wouldnt you agree?-Sarah
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Hold your temper, now Rob. You don't want to go into one of those anger fits, now do you?
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Don't want you busting walls, windows, or foaming at the mouth. That's not a pretty site.
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yo how many timez i told u, this aint about cheryl...since you know me so well, you know i take orders from nobody so wheres this "mama cheryl told me to" bullshit coming from. back on topic, you really gotta let me know who you are, you got no place telling me about being too old for something cause u actin like a 10 year old girl wit a secret crush - gangland Rob
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That sweet-talking Sarah is back. Now you are taking away from ROB's 5 minutes of fame, girlie.
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everyone knows i got anger problems, i 4 real dont get where you're going with that that's old news yungsta, and all you're doing isi makin me laugh so i dont understand why u cant make a point and answer my question - gangland rob
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rather be throwing pucnhes and hitting things than a fat ass who sits on her ass all day-Sarah
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yall people is stupid....do u really now have anything else to do besides talk about someone u dont even know??? u obviously scared of sumthin since u wont say who the hell u are and shit....GROW UP
logan
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U SCARED!!!! ahahaha im glad shit talkin on tha internet makes you feel big...i hope u go places with that wurd up - gangland rob
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ahh yes..SWEET DAMN SARAH!! here i am!! hahaha -Sarah
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lets see..its a forum for: ROb, Logan, Sweet Sarah, and FAT A$$!
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and you even made me my own forum....you must luv me so much, why all tha fightin? we need some peace brothaz and sistaz...wurd up - from tha gangland
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so..who is Fat a$$..can she reveal herself..whose the crush on this time..what is society doing these days when they raise pussy's who dont know their own damn names? -Sarah
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uh oh, someones gotta case of the HUSHMOUTHS!! :eek:
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-Sarah
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You never answered, ROB:
Why did you need back up to beat up one little boy who was already tied and gagged and couldn't fight back?
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i feel so damn special, i must be privelaged to be on a website with u idiots, me rob sarah and fata$$, whoever that is....
logan
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were u there? you know so much about the whole situation that you obviously had to have been there, so why dont you answer your own question, since i already answered it 3 pages ago - from tha gangland
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well..you are just proving our point..you moron..rob wasnt there if ya read a few posts back..HAHAHA- Sarah
you never answered either..who are you..we just gonna assume its Fat FUCKING A$$
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shed some pounds since you been out n about sitting on the corner?
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where did u get your info??? nobody was tied up and if he would be up someone he wouldnt need help ....sorry but u need get your facts straight before u speak...try that then post somethin else that u actually know about
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and i believe i have also stated numerous times that i never did touch joey, i liked the boy a lot. are you just bitter cause i whooped your ass or something? who are u "anonymous". - from tha gangland
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fa real..FAT ASS..you werent even there! hahaha
-Sarah
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so now for the same damn repetitive question..whats you fucking name?
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Oh, OK...if that's your answer. That's your answer. Thank you.
Your 5 minutes must be about up, then.
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hahaha 5 minutes?! gimme a break fat ass-Sarah
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ayyt then you can't run from your fears ur whole life tho, remember that! you gon' hav to face me someday, somehow, somewhere..i hope u know dat. good chattin wit cha...PEACE OUT!!!!! - representin tha gangland
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sure brave boy. can't wait to see you cryin like a baby. think mama cheryl's gonna save u? no way. you've already served your purpose. done with u. kicked to the curb. go break a few windows. beat up a little boy half your size, brave boy.
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mr. "gangland" didnt beat that boys ass..its not a good style either for people to pick on people smaller then you...hahaha..you should know bout that..get your facts str8 bitch
-Sarah
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rob's is chery's little lap dog. hey rob--bow wow lick face of cheryl. little lap dog of mama cheryl. cry for us cry baby. need ya mama cheryl?
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rob need little cussin girls to take up for him? that why he can only beat up little tied up boys? do anything mama cheryl orders him to do? how about jail time for mama cheryl, lap dog?
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haha..he dont want you sticking up for him fat ass..all you be sayin is dirt clod and lap dog..ouch..thats gotta strike someone..you mad cuz you couldnt be no fuckin lapdog..you too damn fat! hahaha -Sarah
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Miss Sarah: why do you think that anyone who posts here is fat? You have a body image problem or something? I don't know you, but I happen to be thin. I chatted to you last night about the court deal. You have a problem with mis-information. One being my body-size.
And my information about Rob is as true as my knowlege of the court room incident, OK? You don't want to be apologizing to me again do you?
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hahahaha..rob never beat up a little kid, and joey at that..joey and rob got along and rob stuck up for him all the time, he wasnt even there that night, and you could ask joey yourself..so if you can get your info wrong..i can too..take it fat ass! -SARAH
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OK ---but Rob will just have to defend himself in court. That's the end of discussion with you on that, and isn't wasn't "that night" by the way...but this is Rob's deal and not yours. You will not get to speak for ROB in court, that is not how it works young lady, sorry. And if for some reason it helps you to call me names, and to cuss, help yourself. It bothers me not at all. It does amaze me tho that you kids from Whitmore seem to thrive on that. It makes me wonder why. It is more sad than shocking, or anger provoking, and it does block any message or thoughts you may be trying to deliver.
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ok well here..i will be more civil if you like that..it doesnt bother me one way or another..anyways, rob ISNT going to be in court..they cant bring him there on one word against another..and he is home anyways..so get your facts str8 once again
-Sarah
i might know a little more about this than you think i do
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YO WATUP EVERYONE!!!! ITS THA GANGLAND MAN HERE, I MISSED YALL WHATS BEEN POPPIN HERE SINCE I LEFT?
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ayyt whoever you are, since i don't know yet still, i cant believe you been talkin shit about me all day and i aint even been here 2 read it but sarah showed me some and its funny cause all the shit you said after i left was a lot more outgoing then when i was here. you didn't say much while i was on, was u scared? - from the gangland
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I don't know anything either. Was just reading this site, and was asking about your "fat ass" comments was all. It just seemed rude.
And my comments were from reading all this---that IF any of what is being said might be true: that ROB will have to speak for himself.
That you will not be allowed to speak for him in a court of law. That is just how it works.
I don't know any details about what he did or did not do.
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ohh..seems someone got a little more calm..hey..i know what goes on in a court of law obviously..i did go to whitmore because i was a "troubled teen." Duh you idiot..hes not oigng to have to speak for anyone..cuz he aint going -Sarah
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it is word against word..he didnt do anything..there arent witnesses..except for Joey who will testify on behalf of ROB BECAUSE HE LIKED ROB AND VICE VERSA
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Then there doesn't seem to be a problem at all then.
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exactly...finally you got it str8
-Sarah
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yo im glad we can work out our problems like people. this is what life's about yo, wurd up. no court 4 me, and no more bitterness from you...we true - from tha gangland
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so who is this mystery person that just worked their problems out? -Sarah
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so far on this damn forum we have, Sweet talkin Sarah, Little cussin Logan, Gangland Rob, and ________?
-sarah
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Well, its real boring here now so you know i gotta go, good chattin wit all u craaaazy people, yo im out, go 2 sleep or somethin, u can PEACE!!
-GANGLAND OUT
(try to not talk SO much shit about me ayyt?)
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This one's for you Roberto...BK til I die!!! Don't worry, I said that out of love :skull:
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wow so gangsta and hard of people to talk shit on a forum..OUCH
-sarah
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what's it like being home? real food, not stashing milk on a ledge, being free to come and go as you like, enjoying it?
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yea..love it home..but miss the whitmore..thats how it is at HOME..thanks for asking..so polite and nice of you. -Sarah
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eh..home..love it..whereas youre still at teh whitmore..if you think its that bad..ask to go home you fuckin pussy
-sarah
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Note the title of this thread--no one was talking to you, sarah!
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Set up your own thread: HEY my name is sarah and I have no one to talk to, write to me, please. You are on this forum 24/7
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Trying to have a discussion with Rob. Feel sorry for you, saw your posts on here night and day, night and day. Doesn't seem like you are doing too well at home. No friends there it seems. Just cussing and putting on a tough front. Really sad. Must be really lonely out there. Maybe your folks can just send you back to Whitmore. You seem to actually miss it.
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i do miss it..thanks again..nah i got friends..they all in summer school here, and i just got back from chillin..thanks again..me and my horse...and when im on here...it is for no more than 20 minutes..unless its late at night and i cant sleep..so fuck you..hahaha
-sarah
the only front i see is when someone can talk shit but not say their name. HAHAHA
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This is just the cutest thing I've seen. We've got Rob's pussycat dolls ready to catfight anyone who even looks at their pimp wrong...now that's loyalty. Do you girls really think you're gangsta? You're cheap imitations of Rob's wannabe attitude. You're disrespecting anyone who died for their colors. Think about that. Don't get on me for not stating my name, it should be obvious who I am. If you can't figure it out than you don't deserve to know.
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alright, heres the deal
rob
sarah
logan
they are friends, they fight for eachother,
do you not have any friends, just cuz they have eachothers backs doesnt mean rob is their "pimp"
rob is a pimp tho
he didnt touch joey,
why are you trying to hurt other people so bad
sincerely
nate
if you want to talk about this, my email is nate0317@yahoo.com but please stop harassing my friends, i dont think you know what you are talking about and all you are doing is hurting innocent people, whoever told you this trash is a liar and an instigator.
peace
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Hey, Sarah. I'm just an independent observer here, but... Your claim to any semblance of a normal social life would be considerably bolstered if you didn't post something along these lines every ten minutes:
yah...u fuckin pussy can takl shit all u want but ill allways be here to holla back with a big ol FUCK.. im going to go play wit all my freinds now.. suck it up
-sarah
See? Now go outside and get some sun on that pretty face of yours. We already know what you're trying to communicate.
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Thought they set up a forum for all you children to chat on: WhitmoreAcademy
Your own private little forum.
Boring over there or something I suppose.
Is Rob "the man" or something?
Understood he was mama cheryl's lap dog, a cry baby who foams at the mouth when he gets all angry screaming in the yard when his guy friend gets sent home from Whitmore. Doesn't sound like "the man" to me going nutts like that over another guy.
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So we've come to the point where, even with everything else, we have to call Rob's sexuality into question? Perhaps you didn't realize, Anonymous, that it isn't exactly damning any more to imply that men have emotional attachments to each other as well as to their PlayStations. Ever watched an army movie? For God's sake, there are real issues to be dealt with here, the least of which is your oh-so-subtle homophobia.
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7 criminal counts filed against CHERYL SUDWEEKS.........YA....SHE IS GOING TO PAY...AKA gorilla, tweaker, GOV, mother love........"GET HERE THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"
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HURRAY! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bet she's crying like a baby!
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HEY ROB:
MAMA CHERYL got charged with criminal charges today!!!!
THAT'S criminal charges for child abuse!!!!
GET IT?
SHE CAN'T DO THAT AND GET BY WITH IT....
NOT AGAINST OUR KIDS SHE CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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obviously we wont sit around all day and try to figure out who u are...what ashame u cant say ya name. by the way we aint pimps, we aint tryin to be gangsta, and obviously u know nothin about disrespecting colors because they usually dont let PUssys in a gang...get a clue and say who the hell u are because u sure be talkin a lot of crap.....
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someone must really love ROb because he not only has his own topic page but he also gets talked about all day...awww....aint that special. whoever questions that he is gay is an idiot because he hates gay people. whoever thinks that he beat joey up is also an idiot because he really liked him and he doesnt do what Cheryl says, he was one of the few who was able to speak his mind when he knew something was wrong....get a ckue before u start runnin at tha mouth
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HEY Cheryl's been charged Criminally!!!!!!!
ROB---mama Cheryl's going to jail for sure!
She was charged today!
PROOF she abuses kids!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, I should know better by now, but I have to chime in.
Rob, of course I don't know you. But I've read enough about you and know enough about how these therapy cults work to have a fairly good idea what I'm looking at. I had a good friend in the Program w/ me. When I went in, he was short and fat. Next time I saw that lovable sob he was, no kidding, 6'4" and mean looking. So, whenever a newcomer needed (in the opinion of staff, anyway) a little rough treatment, they'd always call on Steve for it. And, having played the game almost as long as I had (his family were in The Seed too) he delivered his lines, played his part just as convincingly as he had to. And, I'm guessing (no, more than guessing, I knew this kid well) sometimes he enjoyed it. Who wouldn't. Kid ate shit for so long, once in awhile the kid on the hot seat maybe had pissed him off somehow anyway.
And so he got a rep, much like yours. And so he built himself a personna in keeping w/ that rep. And so that's what he had to work with when he made it out into the real world again. It was a crazy time. It'll pass. I don't believe half what you guys say about each other. I did laugh hard, though, when the one kid mistook Mary for a fair game target and let into her. Oh! the irony!
Anyway, I don't care what anybody says, you were a minor in the care of certain adults. If you did rough other kids up, it's not your fault legally. The morality of the whole thing is something you'll have to come to terms w/. And I guess you will just as well as anybody. But don't you believe for a minute that you have anything to gain by covering for the Suds.The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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strong Ginger....sound and sincere....worth reading several times........good luck Rob..AMF
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antigen thank you for talking sensibly, no nicknames or anything, but as a former resident i can tell you that the whitmore is far from a cult. but still you dont have to worry whose legally responsible for something that never happened, rob isnt an attack dog, he has a mind of his own, he is a musical genius and he is very smart, you cant try to pin a crime on him that you didnt witness just because of his background. and as much as you think you know how a program works, you dont because no one "sicced" rob on anyone, rob told how he felt, he never beat kids up, he isnt a super bully, you cant judge a movie by critic reviews.
[nate]
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what type of musical talents does Rob have?
think a lot of people understand what Antigen is saying,really--no judgement should be passed on the kids in these programs. Adults running them bear the responsibility not the kids.
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banjo, ya, deliverence quality play!!!!
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On 2005-06-10 22:15:00, [Nate]
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"antigen thank you for talking sensibly, no nicknames or anything,
NP. I honestly am beyond any ill will toward anyone involved in these groups any more. I just want to try and get more dialoge going. I think that's as close as we can come in this life to a perfect cure for the bad stuff and supliment to the good stuff. "Enlighten the people generally..." TJ
but as a former resident i can tell you that the whitmore is far from a cult.
You can tell me that. And you may even believe it, too. But I think you're mistaken.
but still you dont have to worry whose legally responsible for something that never happened, rob isnt an attack dog, he has a mind of his own, he is a musical genius and he is very smart, you cant try to pin a crime on him that you didnt witness just because of his background. and as much as you think you know how a program works, you dont because no one "sicced" rob on anyone, rob told how he felt, he never beat kids up, he isnt a super bully, you cant judge a movie by critic reviews.
[nate]"
No, of course you can't! But that's ok, charges have been filed. I think I'll depend on the sworn testimony and other evidence presented by Mr. Eldridge.
Sarah, does it bother you at all that, when you called, they effectively lied to you? I mean, Nephi is a very, very small town. Whether they were out to dinner or not, they must have known the truth.
And Rob, good luck in your musical (what, career? avocation?) I have a nephew who recently got a spot w/ a really good band down in So Carolina. Check out http://whirledbeet.com/ (http://whirledbeet.com/) I guess he's holding his own as they're playing Clint's Mama's Malted Blues, which he wrote (except for the lyrics) You got any mp3's?
And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein and why? Because Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! and speaking of poison gas... I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM TOO!
--Rush Limbaugh, November 3, 1988
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Drug war POW
Seed `71 - `80
Straight, Sarasota
10/80 - 10/82
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eh..i live in SC..maybe ill run into ur boy..haha..nah, i talked to them the other night..adn everything was fine...but who knows, that doesnt mean things are bad or whatever. Im not being lied to..i didnt even talk to cheryl..i talked to one of my friends-Sarah
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And where do you think your friend got their info?
Psychedelics often produce psychotic and even violent behavior in those who have never used them.
--Timothy Leary
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this was earlier this week..they were all eating..so nothing was going on then
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Oh, I took it to mean that you called after the charges were laid and they were pretending it wasn't true.
Never the less, think about all the fucked up programs in Utah and what it must take to compel a Utah DA to lay charges! Shit. I just went to look for the article at the SLT this morning and was bowled over by the level of iniquity they're dealing w/ on a daily basis there. The Suds must be some profoundly wicked ppl in order for Utah authorities to pay them this much attention!
When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.
-- Gary Lloyd
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Well, yeah...the Suds must be bad. Can't even get something going against the BIG BAD WWASPIES.
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Yo, if y'all wanna gang up on my son Rob, den fuck u. Y'all don't got nuthin' betta 2 do than say sumthin' stupid 'bout someone u don't really know. For everyone askin' questions 'bout who dis is, dis is BLACK muthafucka. Stop messin' wit my homie. Get a life. Start bein' real and put ya name afta ya comments. If u pussy, don't even write nuthin'. Dis is EDD and I'm out.
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Oh yeah, I forgot 2 add sumthin': stop talkin' shit 'bout Logan and Sarah 2. Looks like y'all got 1 more person added 2 dis crew. Us 4 is in dis togetha. Whoeva u are, u need 2 step up stand behind what u sayin'. Only a little bitch playes games, hidin' behind dat anonymous bullshit. Holla at me if u want 2. I wanna hear what y'all got 2 say. Either stop bein' little bitches, or shut tha hell up! -EDD
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Oh wow! We got Big Ed in the buildin! That's great Rob, you got two girls and a broomstick fighting your battles for you. Edd, are you really worried about people "ganging up" on Rob?? In an internet forum??!?! Man, if I were Rob- I'd be offended by that...you got no trust in your "son" Ed. For someone who preaches about posers as much as you do...take a look in the mirror. Don't trip on me man, I'm just doin YOU a favor.
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"Tha truth will find you out"[ This Message was edited by: Tha Truth on 2005-06-11 21:15 ]
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Part II:
The beautiful thing about this forum is that no one has to "shut the hell up". All your online yelling isn't gonna drown anyone out. This isn't group...EVERYONE can say EXACTLY what they want. There's nothing you, me, or anybody else can do about it. It sucks not having that control don't it?
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On 2005-06-11 17:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"this was earlier this week..they were all eating..so nothing was going on then"
liar.....you said last night..well, who cares.........going to see CHERYL in court.....than the TORTS>>>>>>>>>>she is messed up.........28 days in the hay...psychosomatic therapy...........caged in many ways........order will be not allowed around minors........hadn't thought of that???..judge ROY ain't CLAN.he's our man............count on it.................AMF
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On 2005-06-11 20:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yo, if y'all wanna gang up on my son Rob, den fuck u. Y'all don't got nuthin' betta 2 do than say sumthin' stupid 'bout someone u don't really know. For everyone askin' questions 'bout who dis is, dis is BLACK muthafucka. Stop messin' wit my homie. Get a life. Start bein' real and put ya name afta ya comments. If u pussy, don't even write nuthin'. Dis is EDD and I'm out."
Dis is EDD and I'm halfway retarded.
Great education you got there at the Whitmore, son. You're a fine example for prospective program parents to examine so they may assess just exactly what 50-grand-a-year can buy them.
Keep up the good work...
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THA TRUTH? Shut your stupid ass up. U don't know what tha hell tha truth is bitch. I don't gotta look in tha mirror 'cause I know I'm real. I'd ratha be a broomstick than a 16 year old overweight piece of shit. I know Rob can handle his own shit. And no one's fightin' his battles for him. U always find some way of sayin' tha same bullshit. U kissin' his ass, talkin' 'bout he got 3 people fightin' his battles for him. Don't nobody wanna hear u. It don't matta if dis isn't group or not. U can make whateva stupid comments u want 'bout me. I know I ain't big, but I'll for sure slap tha shit out yo fat ass face. If u wanna see how real I am, come 2 my hood and talk dat shit. U tha one who needs 2 get real.
-EDD
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wurd up Black! *muah* love ya..anyways, -Antigen-..yea i know about all the messed up places in Utah, and I was actaully talking to my parents about why every parent sends their kid to Utah..i dont get it..because to be more real about..utah needs its own program..there are more drugs there than a lot of places..but ironically, the lady that keeps my horse at her place, well we got to talking one day, and she had sent her daughter to some place in Provo back in teh day..and i guess that it was a pretty bad place..but uh yea..ive heard about it all..and it is all alot different than teh whitmore..we got freedoms, and we were happy..sure some kids werent..but there are always some people who dont wont to be away from their home, friends, and family, and so they arent "happy." All i know, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I liked it there, and I was happy, and had fun. I love Mark and Cheryl and their whole family, and I miss everyone so much..that is my opinion. Well im out.
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Sarah, you know by now that the Jaube County atty has laid charges on Cheryl. Same local government that just issued another program license to Mark Wardel. Don't you think maybe something's up?
What about "the room" (or the shelf)? I'm not asking if you think it's abusive or not. Just about the objective facts. Did kids get confined to a room w/o free access to a bathroom, water or food? For how long? Last time a discussion broke out about spitting in food, nobody actually denied it. I think it was Tori who said something along the lines of "Yeah, so what, my pain in the ass little sister spit in my food once".
But it's different when the adults in charge condone such treatment. It's not only terrifying, but reall mind bending when the whole group condones and entheusiastically supports cruel treatment.
I don't believe for a minute that these kids ran just because they were bored. It keeps happening again and again. There must be some reason behind it.
Until you've lost your reputation,you never realize what a burden it was or what freedom really is.
MARGARET MITCHELL
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How about I answer your questions for you?
No, kids didn't "get confined to a room w/o free access to a bathroom, water, or food". I've seen kids stay in that room, and it's a bedroom, just a small one. Big deal, not. It has a bunk bed with normal-sized twin beds, a dresser, plenty of room for things under the bed which is raised about two feet or so from the ground, and there is a working, and very nice bathroom attached to the room. A plate of food with normal-sized helpings of the meal the rest of the kids are eating is brought to anyone staying in the room at mealtime, while the food is still hot. There is a large water bottle kept by the room's resident, and if it needs to be refilled, all they need to do is ask, and it is done right away. The longest I've seen someone stay in that room is a few days, and they read books, did reports and other schoolwork. That room is where kids stay when we find them making plans to run away; it's just to keep an extra eye on them.
The spitting in the food bit... yeah, when a girl was up there almost two years ago, someone did spit in her waffle. He got in trouble for it and had to do some responsibility packets, and had privledges revoked. And yes, before you ask, we did have group on it. That was the only time it happened. If it happened any other times, no one bothered to let anyone know about it, so that's their personal problem.
So, as you can see, the adults here (and not to mention the majority of the kids) do not, under any cirsumstances, condone or accept spitting in others' food or other obvious disrespect and debasement.
I know those kids that ran away. One of them, I had a long, serious talk with only two days or so before he left. They seemed to be pretty bored, and also missed the other kids a lot who had left upon their graduation from high school recently. Those kids have gone to a far worse environment. I mean, a rock concert of all places? I've been to a ton, and I know just what they're like. Good job, Joyce Harris, not. And I'm sure you'd send little Zita to such a place? Right...
Wanna talk about the law, Joyce? And court? Well, you had this coming to you...
I hope you know well that you could easily go to jail for assisting three minors in running away from their place of legal residence and from their current guardians. If charged, you could get ten years. Maybe more. Does that piss you off enough? Why don't you go take it out on your sweet little girl again? She has more of a heart than you'll ever have. Jealous, hon?
That's my two cents on that... any more questions?
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nice one... :wink:
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I have also seen that room. No beds could fit in there. As far as the spitting, maybe you just didn't see it all, but be reasured, it did happen, more than once.
As far as the law, I'm not so sure you know what you are talking about.
How is it a boarding school has legal guardianship of its students??
I don't think so. Sudweeks have no more right to hold those kids there than Peter Pan. Nope. All a bunch of trumped up lies. Same old MO.
Anyone ever heard of an academic boarding school that has a say over the comings and goings of its students? Maybe a curfew, I'll buy that.
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Oh, don't make me laugh, grandma. I wish you knew how unintelligent you sound right now. Obviously, you have some very wrong information.
I've stayed in "the shelf room" before. We call it the Perry Room. If you're talking about that one with the door to outside, wrong room, hon. The only person who ever had that as a bedroom was a staff member for about two or three weeks, because she wanted to. She used a futon as a bed in there. Believe me, we asked her just about every day if she'd like a nicer room, and she said no.
I know what spitting went on. I just happened to be on the kitchen crew at that time, which means I helped in the kitchen during mealtime. There was only one incident of spit in food going to a kid in that room, and that was it.
A boarding school does have legal guardianship of its students. When the parents are across the country, it's not like they can do much good for their kids. I've read the contract here, the one parents sign before their kid is admitted. You can't trick me.
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Yeah, that was me just now. There's too much anon going on around here, so I just thought I should claim my words...
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Mouse, I have a contract in my hand which clearly entitles the Brooklyn Bridge to me. I'll transfer ownership of the Brooklyn Bridge to you if you make a good offer. Care to make an offer?
Parents can no more sign over custody of their children than I can sign over ownership of public property. That would be abondonment, dear. Or, worse, white slavery. It's not legal. Somebody's pulling your leg, alright. But it's not GMom.
The worst government is the most moral. One composed of cynics
is often very tolerant and human. But when fanatics are on top,
there is no limit to oppression.
--H.L. Mencken
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No, but that was topic of discussion between the kids when I lived there, and the boarding school or w/e has i think it is 45% custody or something, less than 1/2 though...but their is some custody that goes on. I remember talking about it once because I was interested in knowing that.
-Sarah
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Thank you, Sarah.
She's right. There is partial custody of the child when they attend Whitmore boarding school. If a kid is living in a state seperate from their parents, they have to have some sort of guardianship. Therefore, Harris did assist three minors in running away from their legal guardians.
I know what I'm talking about here.
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Ed,look...this is completely childish. There is NO WAY that anything is going to be accomplished when people are just going back and forth calling each other "bitch" all day. You talk in circles and you don't say anything. Are you posting here for a reason?? Than you'd better find a more effective way of "communicating". Otherwise, you'll be running nowhere for a LONG time. Don't you remember how it went in Utah? That was the meaning of my statement about this forum not being group. When we all yelled, cussed, screamed, and hit each other nothing was ever really accomplished. Trust me, I remember. As much crap as I did, as justified as I felt at the time...it was pointless. I said some crap earlier that made me sound exactly how I did in Utah. I regret the fact that I lowered myself to that level again. That's maddening to me because I've been completely rational and adult thus far. What saddens me is that you're completely content staying at that level. You're making fun of a 16 year old with a weight problem. When I'm a legal adult I certainly hope that I'm not gonna be stuck on stupid crap like that. I'd probably be turning my attentions elsewhere like getting a job, my own place, furthering my education...MAKING SOMETHING OF MYSELF. Instead of sitting around and talking crap all day. Before you talk like you know who's behind the keys examine yourself. OH, I know..."you know you're real" but take a closer look. You know some of the stuff I said was right on point and as much as you may deny it--I know Tha Truth.
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Let me guess... Anneliese, would it be? I wouldn't doubt it, but I'm not going to swear it.
Obviously, you know the truth, right? Since group is always about "yelling, cussing, screaming, and hitting each other"? And if this is Annie, who just loved to initiate these things? If I remember correctly, it was you and one other we usually had to calm down. I wouldn't mention his/her name here because (s)he is not involved and not needed to be brought into this discussion. Didn't you always hate hypocrites, sweetheart?
You are entitled to your opinion, I suppose. But just know that your opinion, your "truth", makes me laugh.
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on three, ready....BREAK................game plan.....draw lines in the sand...mindless chatter.........truth seems to not matter.........come on MOUSE.......open the doors...in with the light...its ok......we'll help you do what you can not do on your own....live without the ASYLUM bone.........your surly to meet some of us as you trudge the road to freedom..........easy does it little one
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I am free. It is you who is bound by the hate and confusion within your own mind. To be free, one must embrace serenity and do good things, not evil. Free yourself, AMF, before it is too late.
I can't decide whether you or "Tha Truth" is Anneliese. Maybe both. ::shrug::
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On 2005-06-12 17:18:00, mouse wrote:
"I am free. It is you who is bound by the hate and confusion within your own mind. To be free, one must embrace serenity and do good things, not evil. Free yourself, AMF, before it is too late.
I can't decide whether you or "Tha Truth" is Anneliese. Maybe both. ::shrug::"
a play with words and terms...as the worm wiggles...little girls giggles.........."will experience a new FREEDOM, will KNOW serenity"....hard to embrace what you do not know or have not experienced............religon is for those who don't want to go to hell....spiritual is what those of us aquire after escaping from hell.............quiet and still may provide some relief...............or a channel to peace............AMF
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its annie alright..she was the only one that called ed a broomstick. And, the word usage, and sudden change of heart..it's her. :roll:
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Broomstick? What does that mean?
Question with boldness even the existance of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat
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Just wanted to say whats up to everyone. I miss all you guys. What up rob. What up sarah. What up people that talk trash on the internet. Hows it goin. Peace out. Love Kramer
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a broomstick is the nickname that was given to eddie for being skinny
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Rob sounds like he's doing good when he's not fighting at the unjust posts to him. Don't let the negative and betrayals get to you--look to the future, your music and build your own life!Don't accept the blame for others and take care of yourself guy!
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how's everyone doin? well, i'm a little outta the loop i guess you could say. i was in l.a. this weekend with my bro. so, mark and cheryl had charges put on them? that's a damn shame. the thing that actually bothers me the most is how people say so many horrific, untrue things about them. and, the most absurd thing about it is he/she has never met them. how could you even remotely say anything about a person that you've never met. does everyone believe what they hear on tv or the news? if you do, you are ignorant. but, i just wanted to say whatsup to edd, rob, logan, sarah, kramer and all you guys. i miss you guys like crazy and have mad love to you. i'm out cuz i think people who spend a tremendous amount of time on this website have problems of their own and don't have a life. talking crap on an internet forum does absolutely nothing. it's a waste of time. so, peace out, good luck, and hit me up anytime, cuz i actually have to take a college test tom. also, since i have better things to do, meet with some people about golf, maybe scholarships. remember sarah, pga tour. late.
love,
stephan
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Sure was glad to see Cheryl charged. All these posts about "Gangland ROB." Sure makes one wonder just who was doing the posting, who wanted Rob to look soooo bad. Seems like a lot of deflection goes on here. Talk about animal abuse--and the Sudweeks, and folks start posting about Leah and her horse, OR Casie and her horse. But who's been charged with ANIMAL ABUSE? Sudweeks.....strange huh? Talk about child abuse...see posts about "gangland ROB."
Nice to see who really got charged!!!!!!
Play your music Rob!
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Look, "tha truth," this is tha last time I'm replyin' 2 ya. Whateva u wanna think is fine wit me. I am movin' forward in life. I'm startin' college in 3 months. I'm 'bout 2 get me a real job soon. I'm not stuck on stupid crap like u bein' overweight. I'm not gonna be 1 of these people who jus go back and forth sayin' dumb shit, I jus make stupid comments when I think people tryin' 2 play me. If u been an adult 'bout thangs up 2 dis point, den good. No matta if some of tha stuff u said is true or not, I know what I say is true and I got a life. U keep doin' ya thang. I'm out.
-EDD
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Good for you EDD. Good luck in college. Hope you find a "real job" you like!
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As long as you're not holding yourself back by the crap you say here...it's all good. Good luck Ed.
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yup, it's annie. I don't get why you cannot say who you are now that everyone knows. What's holding you back? (not said in arrogant tone, just curious)*
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Rob, you're not off being brain-washed are you? Stay away from the Whitmmore whining, crying and manipulation. Seems like the friends that like and back you up are out! Not more Cheryl to use and abuse.
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I'm not trying to be slick. I just didn't really see the need to sign my name. I figured that everyone just knew. ::smokingun::
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yea yea..you're full of it. Say your name
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rob do something positive with your life dont talk the way these people do represent whitmore the way cheryl would want you to and no matter what anyone says cheryl loves you i have heard it out of her mouth 100 times!! good luck dear one
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Whoa, you really are dense. I just agreed with whoever said I was Annie. So probably...I'm Annie. Did I say my name enough for you? I should probably still sign though, just in case right? You never can be too sure.
*ANNELIESE* AKA *BIG MAMA* AKA *AUNT JEMIMA* AKA *FAT A$$*
Whitmore student 8-03 to 8-04
That's pretty clear, ain't it?
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ding ding ding :idea:
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Why do people want us to believe it's the kids who are troubled and not the program?
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the kids arent troubled at all...all of these kids are such good kids, and anyone who has been there knows it.
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On 2005-06-13 21:48:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Rob, you're not off being brain-washed are you? Stay away from the Whitmmore whining, crying and manipulation. Seems like the friends that like and back you up are out! Not more Cheryl to use and abuse."
Wait a minute; I got a problem with that one.
I'm friends with Rob, and I back him up 100%. I'm not out, and I won't be.
If you're reading this Rob, you know who this is. Don't pay attention to those lies. The truth will come out in the end. Just hang in there.
On 2005-06-14 08:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"the kids arent troubled at all...all of these kids are such good kids, and anyone who has been there knows it. "
Exactly. Kids screw up sometimes, like anywhere else in the world, but they always get back on their feet. And by the way, if you'd take a moment to notice, every teen is a "troubled teen". Who doesn't have problems? The few adults do regard as "good" are the ones either never exposed to drugs, sex, and rock & roll, or just the best at hiding it. At Whitmore, we've learned why we acted the defiant ways we did, and resolving our feelings from the past. I'm not saying these kids go home as "perfect" children, because they don't. I'm just saying they go home as better people with higher values and morals to guide them through life.[ This Message was edited by: mouse on 2005-06-14 08:39 ]
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Leave Rob alone! He can do his music if he wants. He does not have to be controlled by Cheryl any longer...or cover for her lies anymore. HE IS DONE WITH HER LIES AND CONTROL. HE IS HIS OWN PERSON AND DOES NOT HAVE TO PUT HER WITH HER SHIT EVER AGAIN.
Maybe he's just tired of her stabbing him in the back, OK? Get it?
So shut up Caitlyn girlie.
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On 2005-06-14 10:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Leave Rob alone! He can do his music if he wants. He does not have to be controlled by Cheryl any longer...or cover for her lies anymore. HE IS DONE WITH HER LIES AND CONTROL. HE IS HIS OWN PERSON AND DOES NOT HAVE TO PUT HER WITH HER SHIT EVER AGAIN.
Maybe he's just tired of her stabbing him in the back, OK? Get it?
So shut up Caitlyn girlie."
You're right, Rob can have his music and no, he doesn't have to be controlled by anyone. He is his own person, and I respect Rob for that. However, I think those comments about Cheryl were unneccesary.
Oh, by the way, I love how you think you got me figured out. But it amuses me that you don't. :lol:
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On 2005-06-12 18:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-06-12 17:18:00, mouse wrote:
"I am free. It is you who is bound by the hate and confusion within your own mind. To be free, one must embrace serenity and do good things, not evil. Free yourself, AMF, before it is too late.
I can't decide whether you or "Tha Truth" is Anneliese. Maybe both. ::shrug::"
a play with words and terms...as the worm wiggles...little girls giggles.........."will experience a new FREEDOM, will KNOW serenity"....hard to embrace what you do not know or have not experienced............religon is for those who don't want to go to hell....spiritual is what those of us aquire after escaping from hell.............quiet and still may provide some relief...............or a channel to peace............AMF "
POWER and TRUTH.....causing Sudweeks continual grief.....runing through the halls...searching for the call......bell tolls ASYLUM till.....no more money instore......dancing like a filty, blood sucking whore...........AMF