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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on June 07, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
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incase you missed the first airing....
Montel is airing it again today. check your local listings.
thank you Montel.
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I recorded the last one and made my parents watch it! HAHA
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it is on at 3:00 channel 8 tampa bay. getting ready to pop popcorn right now!
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He cut out the stuff about PURE and http://www.helpyourteens.com (http://www.helpyourteens.com) from the splash screens.
Very, Very nice!No laws, however stringent, can make the idle industrious, the thriftless provident, or the drunken sober
--Samuel Stiles
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watching right now.
Montel said One of the things in his life he regretts the most was sending his own kid to a program.
Samantha baby, who turned on the tear faucet?
You are brave for doing that...I could never!!!
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90 mins till its on here. how is it?
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On 2005-06-07 12:26:00, Exit Plan wrote:
"90 mins till its on here. how is it?
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good....
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It is good and a lot of good points are made but the next time we get an opportunity like this I'd like to see more focus on HOW the programs "work". The stories of abuse are compelling and important, please don't misunderstand me but regular folk out there could easily dismiss the personal accounts as isolated incidents or whatever. IMO, getting the point across of the inner workings of these places and how dangerous it is FROM THE WORD GO, in conjuction with the personal abuse accounts is going to go even further.
Sammie, props to you...I know that was a difficult thing to do. :nworthy:
And isn't it AWESOME that the promo for Struggling Teens has been removed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.
Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young, DOJ/DEA
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Did Montel just quote Ken Kay as calling his own community (WWASP) a "regime"?? :eek:
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard was not what I meant.
---Richard Nixon
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Go Maia, GO!!
What was done with the seed saved from the India Hemp last summer? It ought, all of it, to have been sewn again; that not only a stock of seed sufficient for my own purposes might have been raised, but to have disseminated the seed to others; as it is more valuable than the common Hemp.
George Washington, Writings of Washington, Vol. 35, pg. 72
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On 2005-06-07 12:23:00, GregFL wrote:
"watching right now.
Montel said One of the things in his life he regretts the most was sending his own kid to a program.
Samantha baby, who turned on the tear faucet?
they kept me up late the night before, then woke me early. I was a wreck prior to the show b/c they had realy gotten to me the day before. we had been talking about straight for weeks prior to my arrival to NYC and then the day before they had interviewed me intensivly. So my emotions were high and I was a wreck.
Alot was cut from the actual tapeing due to time constraints, but maybe they'll use it later.
You are brave for doing that...I could never!!!
"thank you, I am not certain I'll do it again though.
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On 2005-06-07 12:38:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:
"It is good and a lot of good points are made but the next time we get an opportunity like this I'd like to see more focus on HOW the programs "work". The stories of abuse are compelling and important, please don't misunderstand me but regular folk out there could easily dismiss the personal accounts as isolated incidents or whatever. IMO, getting the point across of the inner workings of these places and how dangerous it is FROM THE WORD GO, in conjuction with the personal abuse accounts is going to go even further.
Sammie, props to you...I know that was a difficult thing to do. :nworthy:
And isn't it AWESOME that the promo for Struggling Teens has been removed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.
Administrative Law Judge, Francis Young, DOJ/DEA
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Won't happen. Shows like "Montel" are out for Tabloid-type trash. These "victims" were typcial of his guests.
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God this is incredible! Montel just called any parent who sends their kid away overseas and signes their parental rights away is a criminal. This is awsome! I hope those bastards in their plush leather chairs are watching right now. Oh Im sure they dotn care! They can afford 50 lawyers to defend themselves againt a lwasuit, like the one filed by the girl with a broken jaw. I hope their regime goes down in flames!! Smores anyone?
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Thank you Montel, and thank you Sammy. You are heros.
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On 2005-06-07 15:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Thank you Montel, and thank you Sammy. You are heros."
I see why YOU post as "Anon". Your hero's? Sad
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Good show, especially for all the bad publicity against WWASP. I like how Montel read Ken's statements in a mocking tone of voice, gotta love it! Fuck Ken and all his WWASP buddies, I hope they saw this show.
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On 2005-06-07 14:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
Won't happen. Shows like "Montel" are out for Tabloid-type trash. These "victims" were typcial of his guests."
Point taken, absolutely!..... but I wasn't just talking about tabloid TV as the only venue. I was just saying that if we get the chance to talk publicly about this in whatever form, let's stress both. That's all.Men had better be without education than be educated by their rulers.
--Thomas Hodgskin
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http://fornits.com/SIBS (http://fornits.com/SIBS)
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On 2005-06-07 13:27:00, sammiegirl wrote:
"...they kept me up late the night before, then woke me early..."
"I was a wreck prior to the show b/c they had realy gotten to me the day before. we had been talking about straight for weeks prior to my arrival to NYC and then the day before they had interviewed me intensivly. So my emotions were high and I was a wreck."
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Montel touched my junk liberally...
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On 2005-06-08 00:45:00, :wink: wrote:
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On 2005-06-07 13:27:00, sammiegirl wrote:
"...they kept me up late the night before, then woke me early..."
"I was a wreck prior to the show b/c they had realy gotten to me the day before. we had been talking about straight for weeks prior to my arrival to NYC and then the day before they had interviewed me intensivly. So my emotions were high and I was a wreck."
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I take all responsibality for all I said on Montel.
They were nice and respectful and did all they could to make me comfortable. The people at Montel are truly concerned about their guests. They gave me a chance to tell what happened to me in the hell called Straight.
I wouldn't have been a wreck in the first place if STRAIGHT had not tried to destroy my mind.
So do not take my responce out of contex.
I did Montel b/c I believed that there would be a senator or state rep. Or some one who, has the ability to stop this from happening to another person watcing and that perhaps a parent might think twice before sending his/her kid to a similar place.
THANK YOU MR WILLIAMS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK OOUT TRUTHFULY ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE.
I also want to let you know that the producers of the show called me after a few times to see if I was ok. They also offered me the chance to seek therapy, which they offered to pay for. I declined.
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Sammie, I agree with you that Montel is responsible, sensitive, and ethical. He is doing wonderful things with his foundation for multiple sclerosis. He donates every penny donated to the foundation for research, and pays for administrative costs himself or via corporate sponsors.
I think he would like to help teenagers who suffer what we suffered at the hands of Straight.
He is on the Tony Danza show now. Check your listings.
I'm glad he and his crew were good to you, and thank you Sammie. I'm sure you saved more than a few kids whose parents watched the show.
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You know Sammy, most talk show's are really stupid, and even Montel pisses me off with his Sylvia Brown shows and pyschic bullshit.
HOWEVER.
Watching this show, and seeing him almost tear up when he admitted he sent his kid to one of these places and publically admitting it was one of the worst mistakes of his life..
Well, I now have a newfound respect for the guy.
That and his medical marijuana stance. I think it is cool he comes out publically and speaks out on issues he agrees with.
Thanks for going on that show. I said it before, that was brave. I am an emotional wreck also when I speak in public. I just blathered out at my step dad's funeral when everyone was telling funny stories about him, and I lost it in front of everyone.
It is nothing to be ashamed of, getting emotional in public. You did a great service to us all going on that show.
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agreed
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Greg FL I am sorry for the loss of your father.
Thank you for your kind words, everyone.
I hope some day Ill be asked about the here and now by Montel, or perhaps Ms. Oprah will aske me to come and help her retract her prior show in the 80's which she promoted STRAIGHT.
Other than that I think I'll just speak out about the abuse of our children in America. And leave my life exp. out of it.
Peace and love to all.
sammie
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On 2005-06-08 06:29:00, sammiegirl wrote:
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On 2005-06-08 00:45:00, :wink: wrote:
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On 2005-06-07 13:27:00, sammiegirl wrote:
"...they kept me up late the night before, then woke me early..."
"I was a wreck prior to the show b/c they had realy gotten to me the day before. we had been talking about straight for weeks prior to my arrival to NYC and then the day before they had interviewed me intensivly. So my emotions were high and I was a wreck."
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I take all responsibality for all I said on Montel.
They were nice and respectful and did all they could to make me comfortable. The people at Montel are truly concerned about their guests. They gave me a chance to tell what happened to me in the hell called Straight.
I wouldn't have been a wreck in the first place if STRAIGHT had not tried to destroy my mind.
So do not take my responce out of contex.
I did Montel b/c I believed that there would be a senator or state rep. Or some one who, has the ability to stop this from happening to another person watcing and that perhaps a parent might think twice before sending his/her kid to a similar place.
THANK YOU MR WILLIAMS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK OOUT TRUTHFULY ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE.
I also want to let you know that the producers of the show called me after a few times to see if I was ok. They also offered me the chance to seek therapy, which they offered to pay for. I declined.
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thanks for answering my question, & for figuring out what it was in the first place! i got tongue-tied!
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It is nothing to be ashamed of, getting emotional in public.
We at SIBS make it a point to commend someone who has the courage to share their feelings with the group. It's never too late to 'start over,' Sammie.
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Fucktard, I dont think your face tattoos are a good example for all the hopeless druggies in their Slayer T shirts...
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We realize that some folks might take offense to Dr. Fucktard's...eh, shall we say somewhat savage demeanor....however it should be known that we at SIBS certainly wouldn't tolerate that sort of thing from just anyone...
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bump
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Can I have your autograph?
Just swipe the paper on your festering scab cooz,thatll be gooooooood enough,slurp.
Say hello to your millionaire husband for me will ya!
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Gosh, how nice we all got represented on national TV by JUGS. Isn't that just swell.
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Why don't you go and get some air time so you can tell the story your way? I distinctly remember when the Montel producers were looking for interviews someone posted their contact info. Did you call them? Did you agree to be a guest? Got any better ideas?
Let me take a stab at defining the perceived conflict here. I honestly do think it comes down to false Program believes implanted years ago and never properly challenged.
The Program absolutely cannot function without strict controls on communication. Ask any veteran misbehaver. One of them recently explained how, if there were roughly 10 or more ppl goofing off at the same time they were easily able to shut down Program operation pretty effectively.
Now look at discussion on litterally any of these other LGA/Synanon based programs. Same shit, different locations and sleeping arrangements. Open, uncontroled, uncensored, unrestrained (pun intended) communication is like cryptonite (this one too) to the Program.
There is no need to stop, police, moderate or control Wes, Montel, Sammie, Brian, me or anyone else in order to unravle the control. In fact, the opposite is true. Any publicity is good publicity for us. I'm convinced of it; RAMPANT talking out in Group is the key to it all!
We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication.
--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat