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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: PerfectStraightling on May 31, 2005, 05:53:00 PM
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I am starting a new topic. :smile: How about movies that you have seen recently that you really liked or were moved by? How about those that are related to straight-like topics?
I'll start. I watched Donnie Darko this weekend. I've seen it before, but it had been a while and it was so good. Especially since it's set in the 80's in high school. The music and the whole mood seem so familiar to me. And of course its a sci-fi movie and I love sci-fi.
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Star Wars.
and I don't remember the name but it had Jenna Haze picking up a guy at a porn shop and them she took him home for some fucking.
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[ This Message was edited by: fka on 2005-06-02 09:45 ]
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Invocation of My Demon Brother
Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome
Lucifer Rising
All great films by Kenneth Anger
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Haven't seen shit that I liked in the recent past. Movies suck these days.
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I was talking with someone at work about straight. Not my idea, they saw me looking at stuff on the web and started asking me about it so I answered best I could in the allotted time. He asked me if I had ever seen Sleepers, (which I have) and conceded that this was a fairly good analogy...
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I just have to comment on Star Wars.....and before anyone hates on me, just understand that I have been a devoted fan since I was 3....I wanted to BE Luke Skywalker so bad I could taste it....
But....
This last movie was so terribly awful that it actually frightened me. Frightened me in the way that someone could put such horrendous acting and plotlines up on the screen and people ate it up like it was their last meal. I mean, thats what it has come to.....people will watch it because its Star Wars, and not because it has any redeeming value as a film whatsoever.
I mean, the acting was sooooooo bad. Even Natalie Portman seemed like she was getting a high colonic in most scenes. I almost walked out in the first 10 minutes of the show.
And all that cavalier bantering in the midst of high violence between OB and Anakin was just excessive.....
"Oh look Master, you have a 12 inch metal rod jutting from your eye socket."
"I think you may have been right Anakin, this could be more trouble than we anticipated..." (smug smirking creates jiggling in the metal rod)
I know they are unflappable Jedis and all....but I dont care who you are....when you have 75 beams of laser rifle fire coming at you from all directions....not only is it highly improbable that you will be able to deflect them all with your light saber....but you may just break a sweat. Oh and, I am glad they spared Ewan McGregor from having any hideously twisted limbs and all...but when 50 tons of steel fall down onto your legs....you are going to at least break a nail, or mess up your hair. I say if Anakin can slaughter a bunch of kids...then OB can deal with a broken leg or three.
I do have to give credit to Darth Sidious though....he actually made it seemed like he gave a shit about making the movie dramatic and interesting. He growled and hissed and spit alot.
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Triumph of the Will
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[ This Message was edited by: fka on 2005-06-02 09:45 ]
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I recently went to see Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and it was the best film I've seen in a long time!
Go see it, people. :tup: Necessity never made a good bargain
--Benjamin Franklin Apr. 1734
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke
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21 Grams was a gritty flick (Benedicio del Toro and Sean Penn to name a couple) tho' some of it was a bit melo; most was good and harsh.
Mystic River (strangely another Penn show... this with Tim Robbins, Kevin Bacon - who was also in Murder in the First, great movie - and really good other casting)
Shawshank was a good one for the wrongful incarceration theme
Gloomy Sunday was interesting for its portrayal of the tune that was allegedly a trigger for a string of suicides during the war years in Europe; beautiful song... hauntingly (and repetitively) played
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Oh yeah Mystic River was really good. I was pissed right after it ended though. I finally realized it was supposed to be a horrid ending. That crazy lady and her speech about the four hearts or whatever.
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Apocalypse Now (the original, not the 'redux')
Just finished reading the Joseph Conrad novellla it was based on, "Heart of Darkness".
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American Beauty they wouldn't even make that film today, and it isn't very old. This country went to hell on a fast train after the 2000 election.
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Spun
Traffic
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Blow
Requiem for a Dream
Trained Teens 3
Dogma
are a few of the best
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one of my favorite lines from a movie...
"I could eat a peach for hours". :nworthy: :nworthy:
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On 2005-06-02 15:08:00, Reagan Youth wrote:
"Spun
Traffic
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Blow
Requiem for a Dream
Trained Teens 3
Dogma
are a few of the best"
very good selections...especially Requiem for a Dream, but my favorite that i own on dvd right now has to be 21 Grams or the original Amityville Horror
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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Sideways. :tup: :lol:
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On 2005-06-24 14:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"one of my favorite lines from a movie...
"I could eat a peach for hours". :nworthy: :nworthy: "
Nick Cage is cool :tup: but I can eat a peach for days.
Grind
Wild Things
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Man On Fire. Denzel Washington and Christopher Walken.
True story. You wanna see someone pull no punches when dealing with child abusers and kidnappers, see this film. He cuts off fingers to make one guy talk (before he shoots him in the head anyway) and blows up another kidnapper with an explosive device shoved up his ass.
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Donnie Darko. Oh, I already said that. :grin:
OK really, I liked also...the new Star Wars. I really liked it a lot.
Some movies that remind me of Straight are--
A Clockwork Orange
The Forgotten
Death and the Maiden
Brazil
The Virgin Suicides
Dagon
Spirited Away
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Yes, Sideways was the most enjoyable intellectual type film I've seen. Mom hated it.
Also liked the Forgotten alot, but wished they kept it more on the gov't conspiracy side instead of going the way it did. What else?
Run, Ronnie, Run (mr. show guys), cameos galore.
Assualt on Precinct 13 (1976), I saw this one after the recent remake where they changed the premise a great deal. I like the original way better, but obviously low budget. John Carpenter directs and did music.
TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE --- INSANELY FUNNY AND SHARP AS A TACK. MUST SEE. TREY PARKER AND MATT STONE'S LATEST IS A SPOOF ON JERRY BRUCKHEIMER FILMS- ALL EXPLICIT SEX AND VIOLENCE IS DONE WITH PUPPETS, "YOU HAD ME AT..." IN THE FINAL SCENE IS MIND BENDING DEPRAVITY.
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Yes, Sideways was the most enjoyable intellectual type film I've seen lately. Mom hated it.
Also liked the Forgotten alot, but wished they kept it more on the gov't conspiracy side instead of going the way it did. What else?
Run, Ronnie, Run (mr. show guys), cameos galore.
Assualt on Precinct 13 (1976), I saw this one after the recent remake where they changed the premise a great deal. I like the original way better, but obviously low budget. John Carpenter directs and did music.
TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE --- INSANELY FUNNY AND SHARP AS A TACK. MUST SEE. TREY PARKER AND MATT STONE'S LATEST IS A SPOOF ON JERRY BRUCKHEIMER FILMS- ALL EXPLICIT SEX AND VIOLENCE IS DONE WITH PUPPETS, "YOU HAD ME AT..." IN THE FINAL SCENE IS MIND BENDING DEPRAVITY.
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I saw this really cool flick called Can You Believe It? It's about, well, maybe this will give you an idea of the plot and storyline:
Miller Newton touched my junk liberally. He strapped me in to his Straightmobile and he
couldnt keep his offensive hands off of me. He was performing many red flag touches. I
couldnt believe what the fuck was going on. I told Miller Newton the city would not approve
of a millionaire touching an underage kid for free. Can you believe it? Miller Newton did all this. He picked me off the street, strapped my arms and legs down in the Straightmobile's passenger seat, and just wouldn't stop fondling my cock'n'balls.
They definately were red flag touches. The goddamn referee he had in the back seat kept on
raising up this red flag every time he touched my junk but did "Dr." Newton care? NO WAY! He
just kept on doing it. I couldn't believe what the fuck was going on, indeed. I pleaded with
Miller Newton but to no avail. I told him the city would not approve of such a wealthy man
touching an underage kid like me (at the time I was 13) without at least compensating me for
the trauma and the use of my body as his own personal plaything.
This got to him, worrying about his image. he continued to fondle me, all the while ignoring
the referee's red flags. Then he drove the Straightmobile to my house and ejected the seat I was in! It was amazing. But surprisingly, after I woke up the next morning, my bank account had $150k in it!!! Can you believe it?????????????????????????
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I've been laying off the dope thinking my mind might work better. But I'm still seeing stories of Miller Newton touching junk everywhere I look :grin:
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Just saw War of the Worlds last night. I snuck in to other movies. I gave blood outside and got a free ticket and a shirt and some other bogus tickets I might see if I can scalp.
The cops saw what I was doing, skipping into other films. They didn't say a fucking thing 'cos I lost a fucking pound of blood and was walking sorta slow. Later that night I filled back up with some homemade pizza.
Snuck in to see Batman Begins ... the best of all of the Batmans so far in my opinion as far as dialogue, darkness and originality. The guy who plays ScareCrow is the guy from that awesome killer/zombie movie 28 Days Later ...a must see if you are into British films and ultra violent movie originals spawning from semi themes like Dawn of the Dead.
Then I couldn't resist slipping into the last half of Land of the Dead. Another graphic film. This one has long long footage of zombies just eating away at dead bodies. My friend who came along had to turn away. Lots of blood and shit everywhere. John Leguizamo is in this one. Good graphics until you consider the same old plot to survive and to kill off zombies, or 'zombies used to be people, too' kinda thing.
Watched the last half of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. I am convinced that this movie is a big flop just like people have been complaining about Star Wars III.
Brad and Angelina really sucked and are really really predictable in this movie. Go back to doing nut-house flicks Angie, so I will want to fuck you again. Brad, wait for the sequel to Ocean's Twelve or a Fight Club 2 and then I'll be ready to listen through your shit, man. I'm tired of your played out lines and habits.
Star Wars III, seen it a few times now. Okay, yeah ...the acting sucks. My three favorite scenes, the ones that should have included cursing, are as follows:
1. Samuel Jackson aka Mace Windu is kicking the shit out of Senator Palpatine, learns Palpatine is The Sith Lord. Aren't PG13 movies allowed a certain number of cursewords? I thought they were, I'll have to check. For all the violence and saber chopping and gun shooting Lucas is not allowed curse words. I would have traded in some of the effects and violence just to hear Windu say one curse word for dialogue' sake. Guy gets his arm chopped off, or right before - when he learns of Palpatine's true nature ...'Motherfucker' is way overdue here and in order. And, I don't care if I do work for the motherfucking Jedi Order or not, I eat and wipe my ass with the arm that was just carrying my light saber that you decided to, like, slice off. You lob off my arm I'm going to curse a little bit, and then some more before & after I fall out a 50 story high window while having my bald black ass electrocuted by a Sith Lord, as long as I haven't past out yet. Fuck a Jedi peaceful mind, and when I fuck it won't be as balanced anymore because you chopped it off above the elbow, motherfucker. When I reach the ground if I'm still alive I'm going to cuss at you when I make it back upstairs. Or at least look at you the wrong way. Mace's character was just really beginning to develop I thought, too. It is little known, unless you look around, that he was related to Lando Calrissian. We must assume, at the PG13 level, that he dies after falling out that window minus an appendage.
2. No cursing when the newly armored Darth Vader has lost all limbs, lost his wife, and stands up on his new robot limbs and walks for the first time knowing Obi still has his ...no cursing at all. A flat and loud whine, was that part voiced by James Earl Jones, too? A 'damn' or a 'bitch' should be allowed at least once or twice in all. I don't recall Jones ever cursing in that Costner baseball flick either. What was it's tagline? If you build it, they will cum?
3. No cursing when Obi crops off Skywalker's remaining three limbs either, snip clip nip ...only a flat and loud "I hate you". I had started cursing back when I was in Junior High. So yeah, that was bad acting. Plus, no dialogue nor mention as to why Obi decides to leave the most powerful force in the galaxy, who's been through death and others trials, for dead. "I was your brother. I loved you, Anni. Hey, I'm sorry I had to cut off your legs and shit, dude. You tried to get up higher on this hill here, I have to be less heated than you and you butchered 'the younglings'. Sheesh, the nerve. Well, I gotta go now."
That woman getting her finger chopped off for cheating, with Harvey Keitel's character, on her fiance', in that movie The Piano, was more convincing. (mute).
I'm hoping Lucas will do one more installment of Star Wars. He could, afterall. But when the DVD comes out on Star Wars III, I would wish to see the segments that are left out that might offer more dialogue.
Bad acting in Star Wars III, but don't forget to watch The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network ...past and present season's series. Those past ones will give you a clue to why Annakin and Obi are so chummy with each other, and also who the fuck General Grievous is, and they offer some of that precious dialogue and filler that I really wanted to see in Star Wars III. I haven't watched all those, some of the season's have already made it to DVD. nothing a P2P prog. can't find, or a bit site maybe.
If you like 21 Grams, check out Life As a House with Hayden Christensen. This movie doesn't stay with you and is not as dark as 21 is, but it offers a great night for hanging with your significant loved one and getting some nookie later on, or just family. And the dialogue is poetic and believable, too, in a lesser movie about justice and lifedom.
Some other really good movies, in my humble view, with some great dialogue that relate to the suspense/action are:
Sin City.
Kill Bill I & II.
LoTR I, II, & III. (dialogue is so/so)
Alien. (ALL of them b/c there is NO other quadlogy that outdoes itself like Aliens does!, skip the Vs. Predator bullshit)
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unf. Events.
Animatrix.
Memories. (from the maker of Akira)
Spartan. (stars Val Kilmer)
Woodsman. (sick. stars that Footloose guy)
Suspect Zero. (the guy from House of Sand & Fog)
Dummy. (Adrian Brody)
The Clearing (LToChrist's Willem Dafoe...one o' my fav actors)
American History X.
Breakfast Club. (a given)
The Jack Bull. (Cusack, Goodman)
12 Angry Men. (Fonda, great dialogue)
Se7en. (Freeman)
K-PAX (Spacey, others of his are good)
Inherit the Wind.
This is obviously any sort of list. Casablanca I have yet to see, I have yet to sit through The Maltese Falcon or Citizen Cane (considered by some as the best movie of all time).
But I get bored. Some movies its better to take in installments, that's why I sometimes would wait for it to come out on DVD. Any of the LoTR is best taken in doses 'cos they're all so long like my schlong. Sideways is great, the dialogue is real - even if you've never seen American Splendour or his other stuff, what makes the movie move along is the suspense (suspension of potential action or whatever the fuck you call it). Even School of Rock, at its base, can be said to be a good movie from the viewpoint of suspense ...principal (Joan Cusack) is always just down the hall. Yeah, I'm a Cusack and a Black fan. High Fidelity, Say Anything, Tenacious D.
I'm always looking for good dialogue that is presented with suspense/action or none at all even. But Hemingway, I am told, used to just sit around and write dialogue scenes. I have yet to read much of his more subtle stuff ...maybe after this I will. Heard, too, that Tarantino is that way. AFI writes that one of the best 100 movie scenes of all time is the one about the burger discussion in Pulp Fiction. That guy never quits with clever dialogue and dark action.
Looks like I got too much time on my hands here. I would like to sit around with someone and think up some dialogue. I am new to these forums. Alot of free internet software on this kind of writing software. Anyone who has a P2P program can open themselves up to the technology that most great makers use on anything these days, and for free.
dialogue sometimes moves along the suspense of a film and vice versa. Those of you who know dialogue and enjoy seeing it played out would do so well in maybe pooling your minds together on some impromptu or improvisational dialogue.
Just some thoughts on dialogue, didn't mean to throw off your movie post here. alot of the posts I see here provide me with the inclination that many of you here have alot of good and believable dialogue or potential locked inside you waiting for the oppurtunity. Try getting together and just coming up with some dialogue with a friend. It doesn't have to be the next big movie or blockbuster, Lucas and Spielberg got there one step at a time and could not see their way in front of them beyond what they were told to do in college. Most of their works do not include any real dialogue like what we're discussing here.
I've seen tons of writers who take the trouble to carry a very small notepad with them in their vehicle or bloody pocket. I've been known to scribble shit down on a fucking napkin if that's how it comes to me; especially if I am working on a piece - that shit never comes to me when I need it to. It comes in tiny doses and when I'm doing something else. That's when the ideas come, man. And in the morning after you start to wake up from dreaming and right before you actually have to start your day ...the ideas are there and that's where everyone begins. Next you go and find someone of like mind, but not until you write down some shit.
some of the best movies are not the ones that make it to the bigtime. Small budgeted ones (Clerks, The Brothers McMullen). I'm always looking for that one that NObody else has really payed attention to, the gem. Juliet Binoche' movie Blue was real good like that. There are movies that play to subtleties that others can't appreciate and never will, similar to the monologue in Sideways about the delicacies of Pinote grapes. Thin Red Line or any war movie is always good if you're looking for subtle dialogue linked to action.
If you're smart you'll buy yourself an introductory DVD pass at a movie rental spot and cancel before the second month begins. Make sure your computer can play DVDs rite, you don't necessarily need a DVD burner as long as you have enuff space to rip and dekrypt onto your HD. Download free DVD Decrypter and Shrinker. Its damm easy, w/ time, to get all movies you want at the spot for under twenty bucks total on electricity, time, and general thievering.
Eventually, after I ran out of all the new releases I wanted to see ...one of the employees told me to randomly start watching movies in the other sections out in Virginia (name of movie house is deleted). I found some good ones that way. Ronin, and nearly anything with Jean Reno or Deniro in it, Hotel Rwanda was good though I didn't rip it (I get tired of watching minority oppression films, I'm homogenous of late), City of Lost Children.
Enuff for now. Any real movie watchers can tell I haven't actually seen much of much, but I like my own personal films, motherfucker. Peace.
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Or else get yourself a job as a writer. Autobiographical ethnography.
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You know you can fuck off nigger. It's nigger shit like that makes me ethnographical, nigger. Fuckin nigger. now go watch some movies, nigger...and come back and tell about them (nigger).
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Animals you are soooo transparent.
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I should fuck off for saying write an autobiographical ethnography. Maybe you don't know what an autobiographical ethnography is. Maybe you should find out, and have a conversation with me about it sometime.
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umm, you're right. I made a horrible assumption from the base prefix of Ethnography. My little knowledge of what the word homogenous means is actually not alot. But, seriously...tell us what an autobiographical ethnography is. I though it had something to do with my ethnic jokes in the larger post. But, hey nigger....seriously, do tell. okay? The part about fucking off was really a joke though ...stolen from another post about telling everyone to fuck off and all that. I take it ethnography, I will not look up its meaning I will wait for you to tell me please, has nothing to do with being black or somehow ethnic. Autobiography is a life story. So I took your meaning that you thought I was fucking nigger racist or w/e. No offense taken, nigger. But, do tell.
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I'm confused. What anon is Animals?
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Give it up, bitches, Animals is mine.
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Sleepers was a good movie and the book was ten times better. Written by L. Carcaterra I think. He claims it was a true story, no one wants to own up to it. Sound familiar?
Went and saw War of the Worlds. I liked it.
Rented Hide N Seek with Robert Deniro. Want my $4 bucks back, it sucked bad.
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Animals was banned a long time ago for spamming and generally destroying this site like you do.