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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Chrysta on May 29, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
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I have barely been on this board in the last several months and there is still the same verbal garbage being spewed. My good God, people.... GET OVER IT!!! I get it, we get, Elan sucked, Elan was hard, a bad bad place, Elan was abusive , Elan has abusive people as staff. BOO HOO!!! Law suit this, harrassment that... Fact is, Elan isn't going to be shut down because a few disgruntled old residents can't take responsibility for their own actions and deal with what position they put themselves in. (Art, not directed at you.... we all know your DIFFERENT story and how it has affected you.) I agree that Elan wasn't/isn't for everyone, but none of us were saints. SOme of us just had the capabilities to change our outlook instead of wallowing in our own miseries. :cry2:
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Hi Chrysta, Nice to see you back. I check in from time to time but there is only depressing crazy garbage. I'm grateful for the nice weather because it leaves me with little time for stuff like this. Well, I hope all is well. Cindy
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Thanks Cindy. And Yes, the weather is finally nice enough to be outside. Love it!!
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Hi Cindy and Chrysta!!!!!!
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what if the physical labor that was endured while in elan had to make you leave the program for 2 months to get major, invasive back surgey....? is it ok to sue then? :wstupid:
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uhhh... yeah, but you wont win
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What if you called or wrote to the state of maine
attorney general's office ..
Elan cant buy everyone off
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Well Chrysta what would you do if that was you?
The truth is some fucked up shit went down back in the day, but its ok because it didnt happen to you?
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BACK IN THE DAY?????
I was there in the 90's and some "fucked up shit" happened then to.
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Hey, How are things going with your little boy, and how old is he now? Any new photos? I'd love to see them.
We just got some depressing news at the doctor's the other day. My son Marshall, who is only 11, has mono. He is SO sick! No school, no sports,(no work & no paycheck either). I feel like I have a baby in the house again because he is so weak and helpless. I have to focus on the positive and remind myself, He WILL get better. It is just so hard to see him like this.
Other than this setback, life is good! Cindy
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Sorry to hear about your son, Mono sucks. Austin is almost 11 months now, he started walking at 8 months so he is a terror now. Give me your email and I will send you some pics, sed it private though. Hang in there.
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No, it's not okay because I wasn't beat, but let me remind you people that I had my fair share of shit in Elan. Not an easy place to be regardless of the time period. I know this, I accept this, but "back in the day" is way too long ago for people to be still be suffering. My point- GET SOME HELP!!! My comment was more refering to the constant defamation of all the staff members there. While you older folk seem to think we younger ones are belittling your experiences there by not recognizing what you went through, you guys (cough, cough Art) are belittling our experiences there by CONSTANTLY ridiculing and and defaming those that helped to save some of our lives. I wonder, can we move on from all the nasty, cruel, hurtful talk and instead productively talk about our experiences????
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Will Help a lot it did in MA with Desisto. Also there is a Wall Street Journal Reporter that is always looking for these kinds of stories I forgot his name but ill post it.
Exposure by papers, Investigative teams in news stations that will get them.
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Not an easy place to be regardless of the time period. I know this, I accept this, but "back in the day" is way too long ago for people to be still be suffering. My point- GET SOME HELP!!!
Who are you to say when its time for the suffering to end.Even like I or others have control over the nightmares...Only one thing to say Christa....FUCK YOU AND YOUR HOLYNESS !!!!
your the one who needs help.....
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Guys,
I think Chrysta is just trying to say, If you move on with your lives, you will all be much happier. Dredging up horrible thoughts from the past, really only hurt the one who is thinking about these events. It's like being angry at someone, who you can't yell at, or discuss why you are angry with them. Who is affected? The one who holds the anger.
Personally, I completely understand this concept, but "I" am one of those that has a hard time letting go, even though I really know I am only hurting myself.
Just some food for thought. I think you guys are being a little tough on Chrysta. She really seems like a caring person.
Easy..............
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Guys you fucking holy retards have never heard of PTSS. Look it up fuck faces. And Llashram you have NO NONE ZIP ZERO say in this. you never went to elan. Remember? Your brainwashing yourself to think you are way more important than you are. Go to a website about cooking or knitting. Bother someone else.
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On 2005-06-05 22:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Guys you fucking holy retards have never heard of PTSS. Look it up fuck faces. And Llashram you have NO NONE ZIP ZERO say in this. you never went to elan. Remember? Your brainwashing yourself to think you are way more important than you are. Go to a website about cooking or knitting. Bother someone else."
Art, you are much more interesting than knitting. As for important, hmmmmm...are you? Interesting...VERY interesting. ::both::
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I'm gonna have to side with the general on this one.Cindy,your input sucks.You should be collecting stray cats or something
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This is the first topic that I have seen in a long time that is worth commenting on. I can see this from both perspectives, but one makes much more sense. This is supposed to be a place where people can come to talk about their feelings about elan, WITHOUT being censored. Now, obviously Chrysta seems to get annoyed with people "complaining" about things. So... move on to the next topic that DOESN'T annoy you. If they all bother you in some way, maybe you are coming to the wrong message board. Suggesting to other people that they "need some help" because they possess different feelings than you do- is pretty fucked up. Think of it this way- if you had a friend that had been abused by a parent, or if you knew someone who had been raped- or basically if you knew anyone who was the victim of ANY kind of abuse- who also knew that their attacker was still out there- would you tell them to grow up and get some help?! Or to just get over it?! Probably not- unless you are a shitty friend. I'm thinking that you would probably encourage them to report it, talk about the situation, talk about their feelings etc. I don't know if you remember the part of elan where we learn that there are no right or wrong feelings, what's right or wrong is what you do with them. In my opinion coming to a message board and venting these feelings with people who may have experienced similar things- is perfectly healthy.
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Lol probably the latter. I think I remember your GM and your contract. I was pretty green then. That's what I still remember the most after all these years,the crazy costumes and stupid MM recitals we put each other through. That sh*t was wacked.
There are people who I consider friends that are pro-elan. That said I would suggest to the people around here that defend Elan as an institution,that you be prepared to take some flames on. This is not a pro-elan site. The sickos that go off on rants filled with deviant sex and racism have more business on these boards than those of you who say "it wasn't that bad"
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I remember that bitch. Nothing good comes to mind. She was a dyke right? I never seen her testimony,anyone got a link?
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On 2005-06-08 09:41:00, xres8182 wrote:
"I remember that bitch. Nothing good comes to mind. She was a dyke right? I never seen her testimony,anyone got a link?"
So I guess while deviant sex and racism have no place on this board, homophobic language is OK.
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coward
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redneck
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Redneck? mmm maybe,but I doubt it.Wouldn't really care either way.I hope I didn't offend any lesbians out there,if so I apologize.I like lesbians.In my memory she was kinda bullish,my memory is not 100% trustworthy though.
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Did she put you through some bulls*** or what.I never really had to deal with her,just a vague memory.
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alice dunn is a fat cow of a women,, whose only way to feel good about herself was to come out sick on children,,,shed have to be a muffdiver,, but i dont wanna think about it...
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Hey Cindy just another one of your fans here Art is once again right, You so need to move on or at least keep you 2 cents to yourself. You know nothing about what went on with us or for anyone posting here. I am not trying to be mean the thing is noone noway can relate to you,,, unless you did time in elan.
Hey and by the way Art, looking forwards to that BBQ! :smile:
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Excuse me, but "come out sick"??? :???:
Unless I missed something, I think
that one is "out of concept" :lol:
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Marc Rosenberg used to use it.
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On 2005-06-10 03:33:00, artman11111 wrote:
"Anyone in the Chicagoland area that wants to come to a BBQ in Aug should Email me for directions.Should be a great time...No idiots allowed cept me !!!"
damn and me on the east coast.... Maybe next time artman! :tup:
Mike
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"come out sick" we heard that a lot.Reminds me of tight houses.BBQ sounds cool but I will be stuck on the east coast also.My busiest month at work.
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been a while by choice my friend. How have you been doing?
Mike