Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Troubled Teen Industry.com - Program Website Division => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 24, 2009, 10:22:11 AM
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Just stating the obvious...
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What's your point?
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I would like to say something about this forum. I began searching the internet for something....for old friends actually. When I found this forum I was a bit shocked at what I was reading....what was presented to me. I came in here as a guest and defended program I was in. At the same time I continued to read posts and interacted very little with one or two people here. Then one day someone asked me a question and that question triggered a memory. That memory triggered more memories. It took awhile, but I began to realize how brainwashed I was. This forum began that process of realization for me. For that...I am thankful and must say this forum is not a failure. For me, it has been of great help.
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That's always good to hear. Glad we could help.
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If it werent for this forum and others like it I would have felt very lost and and become extremely depressed about my experiences by now, instead I gained a whole network of supportive and understanding peers as well as some magnificent friends.
Fornits might be a bit harsh but the beauty of it all is that no matter how much bickering or unproductive bantering that goes on here, we are all still part of the cause that is responsible for bringing down this industry.
Failure? lol.
::Newsflash:: programs are being shut down, enrollment is scarce, new laws are being passed to outlaw these practices, people are winning lawsuits and these criminals are being convicted and sent to jail! and although the economy might have its effect on every industry, Im more than positive that our voices have made a HUGE difference.
put that in your pipe and smoke it. :rasta:
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For those who forgot...
Well. A few days ago I was invited to antiWWASP to take place in a discussion on how to end the industry. The general consensus was that at the moment we, as a collective community of survivors were too divided. In order to truly fight the industry we must work together. A central organization, to not control, but to coordinate efforts, could exist to help us to organize ways to work together. We came up with a name: A.P.ALL standing for Anti Program ALLiance.
Here is a sketch of what I envision the organization looking like (Pam, an ex-wwasp parent is working on a prettier one at the moment). Most of this is in the design phase so it's not final at all (pls peoples. if I make a mistake do not kill me). This is what I propose.
(http://http://www.fornits.com/psy/apallOrgChart.png)
At the top is the constitution (bad name, I know) which basically a mission statement and a set of rules saying: we're going to fight the industry, and by the way no referrals, ever. Below that we have the members of congress (explained below), and below that there are two divisions (maybe more in the future, for example, for protesting)
Basically we're brainstorming starting an organization to mass produce anti-program websites (a-la Benchmark exposed). The idea I set forth on the right side of the chart is to have three teams, a research team (R), a writing team (W), and a tech team (T) that does the SEO for the website and makes sure it appears high on Google. Sort of an assembly line. Research team starts off the first phase digging up dirt, interviewing survivors, and presents that information to the writing team that assembles the website (we'll have a template to help this out). Finally, the SEO team polishes the website, analyzes keyword density, and does SEO on the website.
This project will be separate from either AntiWWASP or Fornits itself, governed by a panel of reps from most of the anti program organizations (FICA, TAUSA, CAFETY, ISAC, etc.. but not CAICA of course). We're calling this new organization "a.p.all" (anti program alliance). The purpose of this panel is to agree on which program to focus on next with the websites, to coordinate resources, make decisions or amend the constitution (2/3 majority) and revise the Constitution (unanimous decision.. probably only to go back on amendments if there ever are any). This will keep us to the strict focus of digging up dirt on programs and making websites unless, and only unless, there is a clear consensus to focus on another area (protesting, for example).
Above all the organization will be governed by a constitution dictating two things: purpose (making websites, or other purposes as amended) and rules (NO REFERRALS and a very strict definition of what constitutes a referral... something as strict as the referral free zone for both my peace of mind and to get ISAC on board). Organizations or members can, of course, leave at any time.
I will coordinate the website creation division while Kev will create and control the central website (will have things like social networking, protest coordination, etc...). An ex-wwasp parent with connections (Pam) will handle fundraising and stuff as well as helping to manage the central team of the "congress" (manage, not control). I am in favor of this (and suggested her for the job) because of the woman's management experience.
So what do people think?
Our goal…. to raise public and political awareness of the privatized teen help industry in order to expose the truth about the abuse and torture that takes place in this MUTI-BILLION dollar industry that is the largely unregulated Behavior Modification Industries located in the U.S. and abroad.
Desperate parents are seeking out these facilities in order to help their struggling teens; only to find out later that their child endured unimaginable cruelty at the hands of people that were supposed to help our teens.
Our Mission…to end the privatized and UNREGULATED physical, psychological and emotional abuse of minors and parents within the Behavior Modification industry.
I am opening this up for comments, suggestions, modifications, etc. Please...this is a collective cause and all feedback is welcomed. I just wanted to put something out there for people the think about.
Best Wishes,
~pam
Fail.
Oh. That's right.... you're taking credit for the impact of the financial recession is having on programs. :beat:
:roflmao:
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Does posting flatulence like that fulfill some greater purpose in life for you?
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Does this mean that you won't be wanting your complimentary fornits tote bag?
Keep the fruit basket, though. As a sign of good faith.
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that project did not fail, it changed.
In fact I am organizing an event as we speak for a meeting of the minds.
but given your stance on the subject Im guessing you wont be butthurt if you are not on the guest list, random troll that you are.
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This is the most action this forum has seen in a month. Give it up already and leave it to people who actually have some credibility, okay?
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Give it up already and leave it to people who actually have some credibility, okay?
Like whom? and what is your interest in this?
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I think its funny you think we are as naive to be posting the inside details of our plans on an unmoderated forum.
especially with people like you lurking about
lol
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Speaking for myself, I have no problem posting my plans.
1. Wake up at 2pm
2. feed cats
3. postpone shower for another day
4. have coffee and bagel
5. ???
6. Profit
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Speaking for myself, I have no problem posting my plans.
1. Wake up at 2pm
2. feed cats
3. postpone shower for another day
4. have coffee and bagel
5. ???
6. Profit
you forgot "browse /b/ for horse porn"
teehee.
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Speaking for myself, I have no problem posting my plans.
1. Wake up at 2pm
2. feed cats
3. postpone shower for another day
4. have coffee and bagel
5. ???
6. Profit
you forgot "browse /b/ for horse porn"
teehee.
Hey, that novelty wore off for me in 99. I deleted the files and everything. ::deadhorse::
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yes. bestiality tends to have that effect.
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Speaking for myself, I have no problem posting my plans.
1. Wake up at 2pm
2. feed cats
3. postpone shower for another day
4. have coffee and bagel
5. ???
6. Profit
you forgot "browse /b/ for horse porn"
teehee.
FF2 do we want to know where you got the horse porn idea?? now i really wonder about you.
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Oh. That's right.... you're taking credit for the impact of the financial recession is having on programs. :beat:
:roflmao:
Does anyone really care WHY these schools have been closing? Hasn't our "mission" so to speak, been to close down these schools by any means necessary (legally)? The POINT is that they ARE closing and enrollment has dropped. Looks like good news to me...regardless of the how/why they closed.
Personally, i think it is a combination of the economy AND all the BAD PRESS - not to mention the collective movement and participation of survivors on these forums, Antiwwasp, and other such sites. I choose to believe that the voices of the unheard are now being HEARD - for whatever reason!!!
As Femanon said..."put that in your pipe and smoke it"
Who cares if the TTI site went live or didn't??? The mission of TTI is the same thing we ALL WANT - to see this industry blown off the face of the Earth. Just the mere fact of knowing that NO parent can no longer send their kid to TB makes me sleep a while lot better at night!
:whip:
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So many of you defiantly don't think these programs or schools are any good. Are any of you all still mooching off your parents with the excuse they didn't raise you well? Do you know what can a failed parent can do to help an unmotivated young adult get on with making an independent life for them self? How did your parents stop paying for your mistakes and stop feeling responsible if you became a burden to society? I see that there is a mistake in sending anyone away to a place that treats them as a cash cow. So how have some of you become able to take responsibility for your life? I just want to point the person I know in the right direction and be helpful. This forum was helpful in showing me that there is to great a chance of damage done by these schools to consider sending someone there.
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So many of you defiantly don't think these programs or schools are any good. Are any of you all still mooching off your parents with the excuse they didn't raise you well?
Some might be. Some aren't. I'm not sure a census has been conducted on the matter.
Do you know what can a failed parent can do to help an unmotivated young adult get on with making an independent life for them self?
I don't think there is a one-size fits all solution to that. It depends on the situation.
How did your parents stop paying for your mistakes and stop feeling responsible if you became a burden to society? I see that there is a mistake in sending anyone away to a place that treats them as a cash cow. So how have some of you become able to take responsibility for your life?
It depends on what you mean by "take responsibility for your life". Different schools of thought have different definitions of "responsibility". Responsibility can mean taking responsible for one's own actions, or responsibility can mean taking blame for everything that happens in one's life (i.e.... if somebody shoots you.. take responsibility for that.).
I just want to point the person I know in the right direction and be helpful. This forum was helpful in showing me that there is to great a chance of damage done by these schools to consider sending someone there.
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There are various at-home solutions, but it would be helpful to have a greater understanding of precisely what the issue is.
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Speaking for myself, I have no problem posting my plans.
1. Wake up at 2pm
2. feed cats
3. postpone shower for another day
4. have coffee and bagel
5. ???
6. Profit
you forgot "browse /b/ for horse porn"
teehee.
FF2 do we want to know where you got the horse porn idea?? now i really wonder about you.
lol actually it was /b/ that gave me the idea lol
but I don't suppose you know what that is and I'm not supposed to tell you about it.