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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Facility Question and Answers => Psych Hospitals => Topic started by: sad on June 03, 2010, 06:21:05 PM
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
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....are you trolling or just nuts?
Worry about what's being done to your own daughter right now before you worry about infiltration of some nuthouse. (You walk into a nuthouse, you might not walk out any time soon!)
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I've been there and seen it, although not recently. Still, I have to "second" Pile's comment!
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....are you trolling or just nuts?
Worry about what's being done to your own daughter right now before you worry about infiltration of some nuthouse. (You walk into a nuthouse, you might not walk out any time soon!)
Solid Advice!
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The person who witnessed it admitted himself voluntarily and came out alive a few days later.
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The person who witnessed it admitted himself voluntarily and came out alive a few days later.
http://http://www.mindfreedom.org
http://http://www.psychrights.org
Every State has a Protection and Advocacy Law Firm.
Ask the Almighty "Google"
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
Well I'll be the first, thanks sad. No I haven't but I'll look into it along with you. You don't know how many times I would like to have a mini-camera attached to my clothing (disguised of course) to take pictures. But here is the deal once you publish them your done so make sure you don't tell anyone who you are.
As for Pile advice, coming from a wannabe court jester who can't help himself. Sometimes I make believe they don't exist. Pile is for Pile and his agenda, whatever that may be.
Sad continue to post and build your own purpose for being here don't be influenced by the mass and may God bless your daughter.
Danny
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Some times, I honestly do get aggravated. Pile is telling her to focus on her daughter. this is very sound advice.
What happened to the daughter? Has her issue been resolved?
Well, I m sure that mom going undercover in a psyche ward is going to do a lot for her.
If this person is for real, they could use a little bit of focus.
Paul
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Some times, I honestly do get aggravated. Pile is telling her to focus on her daughter. this is very sound advice.
What happened to the daughter? Has her issue been resolved?
Well, I m sure that mom going undercover in a psyche ward is going to do a lot for her.
If this person is for real, they could use a little bit of focus.
Paul
Paul my purpose here is not to take over her life and start telling her what to do. Obviously from her post she is a intelligent woman. She asked for advice and she got it. Who am I to say she can't carry on with other thoughts or plans. This is her life not mine so I try to not think I know what is good for her. If she makes a request I'll try to fill it, if she makes a statement I'll try to listen and if she wants to create a agenda for herself while the issue with her daughter is going on that is fine to.
I don't want to take care of Sad, I want to care for her. Co-dependence rings a little here.
I am not here to run folks lives and masquerade it as a suggestion. Paul what happens when she doesn't choose to listen to your or piles advice, is she a idiot then, maybe she was full of crap, troll ect.....NO she made a choice to listen and still wants to do her own thing.
Danny
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Some times, I honestly do get aggravated. Pile is telling her to focus on her daughter. this is very sound advice.
What happened to the daughter? Has her issue been resolved?
Well, I m sure that mom going undercover in a psyche ward is going to do a lot for her.
If this person is for real, they could use a little bit of focus.
Paul
Paul my purpose here is not to take over her life and start telling her what to do. Obviously from her post she is a intelligent woman. She asked for advice and she got it. Who am I to say she can't carry on with other thoughts or plans.
No.. You encouraged it!
This is her life not mine so I try to not think I know what is good for her.
You seem to know whta is good for everybody else though.
If she makes a request I'll try to fill it, if she makes a statement I'll try to listen and if she wants to create a agenda for herself while the issue with her daughter is going on that is fine to.
I don't want to take care of Sad, I want to care for her. Co-dependence rings a little here.
Honestly, bro.. I personally wouldn t even go that further.. I am not quitting my day job, to take care of SAD. I am just giving her advice. It is up to her what she does with it.
I am not here to run folks lives and masquerade it as a suggestion. Paul what happens when she doesn't choose to listen to your or piles advice, is she a idiot then, maybe she was full of crap, troll ect.....
You are taking things out of context. The reason that it was condsidered that she is "full of crap", though in no words like that, was that her newest, latest post, was just so bizarre, and from left field, and with all the people who fuck around on this site, and with all agendas, and with all the people who would like to make an absolute mockery, out of the knowledge that people on this site have to offre, it just seemed that possibly someone is playing a game or being a troll
Nobody wants to waste their time if that is the case, so curiosity was raised.
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NO she made a choice to listen and still wants to do her own thing.
And comes back to report it here, and so received more feedback.
Paul
Danny
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As for Pile advice, coming from a wannabe court jester who can't help himself. Sometimes I make believe they don't exist. Pile is for Pile and his agenda, whatever that may be.
This is what pissed me off. Valid advice is offered. Some would say SANE advice was offered, and you aim to discredit the person who offered it.
Sad continue to post and build your own purpose for being here don't be influenced by the mass and may God bless your daughter.
Danny
The masses are giving her valid advice. they are actually trying to be of honest assistance, while you are ready to tape a camera to her chest.
Paul
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The masses are giving her valid advice. they are actually trying to be of honest assistance, while you are ready to tape a camera to her chest.
Paul
My guess is he's just desperately scrounging for material for Anne's new avatar. :D
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LOL!
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As for Pile advice, coming from a wannabe court jester who can't help himself. Sometimes I make believe they don't exist. Pile is for Pile and his agenda, whatever that may be.
This is what pissed me off. Valid advice is offered. Some would say SANE advice was offered, and you aim to discredit the person who offered it.
Who is determining that it is sound advice, you. Paul I am not going to hijack this thread, with this. I said what I said accept it or not.
Danny
The masses are giving her valid advice. they are actually trying to be of honest assistance, while you are ready to tape a camera to her chest.
Paul this conversation has become a side show, what ever my fiend. Same advice as I gave above to you, accept it or not.
Paul
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The masses are giving her valid advice. they are actually trying to be of honest assistance, while you are ready to tape a camera to her chest.
Paul
My guess is he's just desperately scrounging for material for Anne's new avatar. :D
Why are you in this, Ursus. My points are valid and you know it. Just can't help yourself from getting the thread off target. This is about sad right.
Danny
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http://http://www.ec-online.net/knowledge/articles/control.html
Dealing With Control Freaks
by Thomas J. Schumacher, Psy.D., R-CSW
Most all of you have had to contend with control freaks. These are those people who insist on having their way in all interactions with you. They wish to set the agenda and decide what it is you will do and when you will do it. You know who they are – they have a driving need to run the show and call the shots. Lurking within the fabric of the conversation is the clear threat that if you do not accede to their needs and demands, they will be unhappy.
Certainly, it’s natural to want to be in control of your life. But when you have to be in control of the people around you as well, when you literally can’t rest until you get your way … you have a personality disorder. While it’s not a diagnostic category found in the DSM IV (the therapist’s bible for diagnostic purposes) an exaggerated emphasis on control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive generally characterized by perfectionism, orderliness, workaholic tendencies, an inability to make commitments or to trust others and a fear of having their flaws exposed. Deep down, these people are terrified of being vulnerable. They believe they can protect themselves by staying in control of every aspect of their lives, including their relationships. Control freaks take the need and urge to control to new heights, causing others stress so they can maintain a sense of order. These people are riddled with anxiety, fear, insecurity, and anger. They’re very critical of themselves their lover and their friends, but underneath that perfect outfit and great body is a mountain of unhappiness. Let’s look at what makes control freaks tick, what makes you want to explode, and some ways to deal with them.
The Psychological Dynamics That Fuel a Control Freak
The need to control is almost always fueled by anxiety – though control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with.
Bottom Line: In the process of being controlling, their actions say, “You’re incompetent” and “I can’t trust you.” (this is why you hate them). Remember, the essential need of a control freak is to defend against anxiety. Although it may not be apparent to you when they are making their demands, these individuals are attempting to cope with fairly substantial levels of their own anxiety. The control freak is usually fighting off a deep-seated sense of their own helplessness and impotence. By becoming proficient at trying to control other people, they are warding off their own fear of being out of control and helpless. Controlling is an anxiety management tool.
Unfortunately for you, the control freak has a lot at stake in prevailing. While trying to hold a conversation and engage them in some way, their emotional stakes involve their own identity and sense of well-being. Being in control gives them the temporary illusion and sense of calmness. When they feel they are prevailing, you can just about sense the tension oozing out of them. The control freak is very frightened. Part of their strategy is to induce that fear in you with the subtle or not so subtle threat of loss. Since the emotional stakes are so high for them, they need to assert themselves with you to not feel so helpless. To relinquish control is tantamount to being victimized and overwhelmed. When a control freak cannot control, they go through a series of rapid phases. First they become angry and agitated, then they become panicky and apprehensive, then they become agitated and threatening, and then they lapse into depression and despair.
Repetition Compulsion
Control freaks are also caught in the grip of a repetition compulsion. They repeat the same pattern again and again in their attempt to master their anxiety and cope with the trauma they feel. Characteristically, the repetition compulsion takes on a life of its own. Rather than feel calmer and therefore have a diminished need to be controlling, their behavior locks them into the same pattern in an insatiable way. Successes at controlling do not register on their internal scoreboard. They have to fight off the same threat again and again with increasing rigidity and intransigence.
Two Types of Control Freaks
Type 1 Control Freaks: The Type 1 control freak is strictly attempting to cope with their anxiety in a self absorbed way. They just want to feel better and are not even very aware of you. You will notice and hear their agitation and tentativeness. They usually do not make much eye contact when they are talking to you.
Type 2 Control Freaks: The Type 2 control freak is also trying to manage their anxiety but they are very aware of you as opposed to the Type 1 control freak. The Type 2 needs to diminish you to feel better. Their mood rises as they push you down. They do not just want to prevail; they also need to believe that they have defeated you. They need you to feel helpless so they will not feel helpless. Their belief is that someone must feel helpless in any interchange and they desperately do not want it to be them. The Type 1 needs control. The Type 2 needs to control you.
Some Coping Strategies
1) Stay as calm as you can. Control freaks tend to generate a lot of tension in those around them. Try to maintain a comfortable distance so that you can remain centered while you speak with them. Try to focus on your breathing. As they get more agitated and demanding, just breath slowly and deeply. If you stay calm and focused, this often has the effect of relaxing them as well. If you get agitated you have joined the battle on their terms.
2) Speak very slowly. Again the normal tendency is to gear up and speak rapidly when dealing with a control freak. This will only draw you into the emotional turmoil and you will quickly be personalizing what is occurring.
3) Be very patient. Control freaks need to feel heard. In fact, they do not have that much to say. They have a lot to say if you engage them in a power struggle. If you just listen carefully and ask good questions that indicate that you have heard them, then they will quickly resolve whatever the issue is and calmly move on.
4) Pay attention to your induced reactions. What is this person trying to emotionally induce in you? Notice how you feel when speaking with them. It will give you important clues as to how to deal with them more effectively and appropriately.
5) Initially, let them control the agenda. But you control the pacing. If you stay calm and speak slowly, you will be in command of the pacing of the conversation.
6) Treat them with kindness. Within most control freaks is a good measure of paranoia. They are ready to get angry and defend against what they perceive is a controlling hostile world. If you treat them with respect and kindness, their paranoia cannot take root. You will jam them up.
7) Make demands on them-- especially when dealing with the type 2 control freak. Ask them to send you something or do something for you. By asking something of them, you will be indicating that you are not intimidated or diminished by their behavior patterns.
8) Remember an old but poignant Maxim: “Those who demand the most often give the least.”
Keep in mind that control freaks are not trying to hurt you – they’re trying to protect themselves. Remind yourself that their behavior toward you isn’t personal; the compulsion was there before they met you, and it will be their forever unless they get help. Understand that they are skilled manipulators, artful and intimidating, rehearsed debaters and excellent at distorting reality.
In order to not feel degraded, humiliated and have your sense of self and self worth assaulted, you need to avoid being bulldozed by a controlling lover, boss or friend. When you are caught up in a truly destructive/controlling attachment, the best response may be to walk out. You have to understand that whatever you do will have a limited effect. These people are angry and afraid to let go of you. Hence, it is your job to let go of them, protect yourself in the process… and grow.
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
you mean, while your daughter is in the wilderness program?...I just imagine how your ex husband is going to use it at the custody battle: telling the judge you are not stable, you have problems on your own, because you were admitted...
By the way: who has custody of your daughter, and what kind (joint or sole legal?) That is very important in determining your next step...
Is there any relative (grandparents, uncles etc) willing to help you in this situation?
Be careful with PAS allegations...some courts see it as a red flag...
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Ya know what Danny.. I think that we should put this thread back on target.
You say that you are right. You even say that Ursus knows it.
Let's give this thread purpose, and see if we can resolve this issue.
Would you be willing to make your argument as to why the best course of action is for posters to help Sad infiltrate a psych ward.
More importantly.. can you please make your argument as to why the masses are wrong.
Here is mine:
1. The masses believe that Sad should practice prudence in sending her child to a treatment center. Why is this sound?
Because, in addition to being able to find info on how abusive these centers can sometimes be is all over the internet, in books, and on TV. ( as first hand accounts)
Even more importantly, and this alone can stand independent of the supporting statement that I gave above. Most of the people here, have themselves, experienced abuse at the hands of treatment centers, and also know many others who did.
The model, on which many of these programs are based is flawed beyond compare.
2. Is Pile being a court jester?
No Pile is being reasonable... which leads us to 3.
3. Is the best course of action for SAD to infiltrate a psych center, or should she be worried about her child?
If she values her responsibilty as a parent, then it is only logical, that she would tend to her daughter now, over a stranger, who was also a patient in a psych ward, WITNESSED abuse... I guess once.
Now, I remind you. Noone is shoving their ideas down SAD's throat. She came here looking for advice.
Also, there are things to be taken into account. For example, SAD, sems to be having a decent amount of trouble in her own life right now. Why add this crazy mission to it all. First take care of your kid.. then go save the world.. That is valid advice.
Paul
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Ya know what Danny.. I think that we should put this thread back on target.
You say that you are right. You even say that Ursus knows it.
Let's give this thread purpose, and see if we can resolve this issue.
Would you be willing to make your argument as to why the best course of action is for posters to help Sad infiltrate a psych ward.
More importantly.. can you please make your argument as to why the masses are wrong.
Here is mine:
1. The masses believe that Sad should practice prudence in sending her child to a treatment center. Why is this sound?
Because, in addition to being able to find info on how abusive these centers can sometimes be is all over the internet, in books, and on TV. ( as first hand accounts)
Even more importantly, and this alone can stand independent of the supporting statement that I gave above. Most of the people here, have themselves, experienced abuse at the hands of treatment centers, and also know many others who did.
The model, on which many of these programs are based is flawed beyond compare.
2. Is Pile being a court jester?
No Pile is being reasonable... which leads us to 3.
3. Is the best course of action for SAD to infiltrate a psych center, or should she be worried about her child?
If she values her responsibilty as a parent, then it is only logical, that she would tend to her daughter now, over a stranger, who was also a patient in a psych ward, WITNESSED abuse... I guess once.
Now, I remind you. Noone is shoving their ideas down SAD's throat. She came here looking for advice.
Also, there are things to be taken into account. For example, SAD, sems to be having a decent amount of trouble in her own life right now. Why add this crazy mission to it all. First take care of your kid.. then go save the world.. That is valid advice.
Paul
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
you mean, while your daughter is in the wilderness program?...I just imagine how your ex husband is going to use it at the custody battle: telling the judge you are not stable, you have problems on your own, because you were admitted...
By the way: who has custody of your daughter, and what kind (joint or sole legal?) That is very important in determining your next step...
Is there any relative (grandparents, uncles etc) willing to help you in this situation?
Be careful with PAS allegations...some courts see it as a red flag...
Maruska thanks for your paranoid take on things, is that what happened in your divorce while your daughter was in treatment. Man, must have been a bummer to have so much going on in your life.
Now lets be concerned about sads life and put your projections on hold OK. I mean be concerned about real things not your imaginary scenarios. Is this what you do to all folks you want to help, flood them with your baggage.
Danny
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Ya know what Danny.. I think that we should put this thread back on target.
You say that you are right. You even say that Ursus knows it.
Let's give this thread purpose, and see if we can resolve this issue.
Would you be willing to make your argument as to why the best course of action is for posters to help Sad infiltrate a psych ward.
More importantly.. can you please make your argument as to why the masses are wrong.
Here is mine:
1. The masses believe that Sad should practice prudence in sending her child to a treatment center. Why is this sound?
Because, in addition to being able to find info on how abusive these centers can sometimes be is all over the internet, in books, and on TV. ( as first hand accounts)
Even more importantly, and this alone can stand independent of the supporting statement that I gave above. Most of the people here, have themselves, experienced abuse at the hands of treatment centers, and also know many others who did.
The model, on which many of these programs are based is flawed beyond compare.
2. Is Pile being a court jester?
No Pile is being reasonable... which leads us to 3.
3. Is the best course of action for SAD to infiltrate a psych center, or should she be worried about her child?
If she values her responsibilty as a parent, then it is only logical, that she would tend to her daughter now, over a stranger, who was also a patient in a psych ward, WITNESSED abuse... I guess once.
Now, I remind you. Noone is shoving their ideas down SAD's throat. She came here looking for advice.
Also, there are things to be taken into account. For example, SAD, sems to be having a decent amount of trouble in her own life right now. Why add this crazy mission to it all. First take care of your kid.. then go save the world.. That is valid advice.
Paul
Paul you keep confirming to me precisely why I think you are not qualified to be in any of these discussions with me. You can not read and comprehend my posts and your judgments of me just overtake your sense of thought.
I will say this one more time for you lill`idiot. Leave "sad" alone she does not need anymore advice. She will ask again at the appropriate time I'm sure.
My advice to you is the same, caring for someone is one thing, taking care of someone is a whole other thing.
Stop talking about her like she is not in the room.
Danny
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Yeah.. Come On, Maruska! Danny is right.. Enough with trying to be helpful and give valid advice already.
The idea that Sad's husband might use her being admitted into a psych ward against her, is nothing but an imaginary scenario..
Like Danny says..... This is about Sad! We have to care for her!
I ll get the camera. You get the tape.
Paul
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I'll get the Liveleak and the 4chan; that's about where we are.
Oh, and Danny? Just an FYI? Your posts are seriously a waste of time. You say absolutely nothing worth anything to anyone. Nobody respects you, and no one is going to agree with a word of it (not even Whooter, unless it serves his purposes of the day). Stop posting.
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Ya know what Danny.. I think that we should put this thread back on target.
You say that you are right. You even say that Ursus knows it.
Let's give this thread purpose, and see if we can resolve this issue.
Would you be willing to make your argument as to why the best course of action is for posters to help Sad infiltrate a psych ward.
More importantly.. can you please make your argument as to why the masses are wrong.
Here is mine:
1. The masses believe that Sad should practice prudence in sending her child to a treatment center. Why is this sound?
Because, in addition to being able to find info on how abusive these centers can sometimes be is all over the internet, in books, and on TV. ( as first hand accounts)
Even more importantly, and this alone can stand independent of the supporting statement that I gave above. Most of the people here, have themselves, experienced abuse at the hands of treatment centers, and also know many others who did.
The model, on which many of these programs are based is flawed beyond compare.
2. Is Pile being a court jester?
No Pile is being reasonable... which leads us to 3.
3. Is the best course of action for SAD to infiltrate a psych center, or should she be worried about her child?
If she values her responsibilty as a parent, then it is only logical, that she would tend to her daughter now, over a stranger, who was also a patient in a psych ward, WITNESSED abuse... I guess once.
Now, I remind you. Noone is shoving their ideas down SAD's throat. She came here looking for advice.
Also, there are things to be taken into account. For example, SAD, sems to be having a decent amount of trouble in her own life right now. Why add this crazy mission to it all. First take care of your kid.. then go save the world.. That is valid advice.
Paul
Paul you keep confirming to me precisely why I think you are not qualified to be in any of these discussions with me. You can not read and comprehend my posts and your judgments of me just overtake your sense of thought.
No... You just can't respond to anything reasonable.. Anything that requires you to actually come out and say what you are saying. You prefer to argue. You have no foundation, though, so you cannot defend anything you say, once it is put to even the least amount of scrutiny. I am wrong sometimes, Danny.. but I ll admit it if shown.. and I ll live with it too.. because people make mistakes... they even fuck up words like ,"wane".
Not Qualified? Who the fuck do you think you're fooling dumbass.?
I will say this one more time for you lill`idiot.
Watch what you call me Danny.. I warned you before.. I will bust you up right on these fucking boards.
Leave "sad" alone she does not need anymore advice.
Okay, Hero.
She will ask again at the appropriate time I'm sure.
My advice to you is the same, caring for someone is one thing, taking care of someone is a whole other thing.
Well dude, I never tried to care for her, or take care of her. the fact of the matter is that to some extent, I do care a bit. I honestly do. You are just using this thread as an opportunity to play Devil's Advocate.
Stop talking about her like she is not in the room.
She is not in the room, Danny.. She is not an Avatar!
Paul
Danny
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Yeah.. Come On, Maruska! Danny is right.. Enough with trying to be helpful and give valid advice already.
The idea that Sad's husband might use her being admitted into a psych ward against her, is nothing but an imaginary scenario..
Like Danny says..... This is about Sad! We have to care for her!
I ll get the camera. You get the tape.
Paul
You really are a self absorbed, that is only interested in your conclusions. Really Paul this is not about you and your show now. Read what I am saying not just the rebuttals to Pile and Maruska but what I am saying. It is the crux's to my whole argument. Sad gets to choose her own path. It may be the right one.
Danny
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You really are a self absorbed, that is only interested in your conclusions. Really Paul this is not about you and your show now. Read what I am saying not just the rebuttals to Pile and Maruska but what I am saying. It is the crux's to my whole argument. Sad gets to choose her own path. It may be the right one.
Danny
. If you wanna tell SAD to follow her own path, that is fine with me.
What bothers me, is that you first, discredited the person who was actually giving, in my opinion and in most rational people's opinion, sane advice.
Paul
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Paul you keep confirming to me precisely why I think you are not qualified to be in any of these discussions with me. You can not read and comprehend my posts and your judgments of me just overtake your sense of thought.
No... You just can't respond to anything reasonable.. Anything that requires you to actually come out and say what you are saying. You prefer to argue. You have no foundation, though, so you cannot defend anything you say, once it is put to even the least amount of scrutiny. I am wrong sometimes, Danny.. but I ll admit it if shown.. and I ll live with it too.. because people make mistakes... they even fuck up words like ,"wane".
Not Qualified? Who the fuck do you think you're fooling dumbass.?
No your not Lill` idiot qualified to say anything because you have nothing. You say I argue, hmmm.....I put out on this thread my reasons for backing off Sad. Read my posts.....dumbfuck.
I will say this one more time for you lill`idiot.
Watch what you call me Danny.. I warned you before.. I will bust you up right on these fucking boards.
Listen you little twat you will not do a damn thing so STFU, Lill`idiot.
Leave "sad" alone she does not need anymore advice.
Okay, Hero.
She will ask again at the appropriate time I'm sure.
My advice to you is the same, caring for someone is one thing, taking care of someone is a whole other thing.
Well dude, I never tried to care for her, or take care of her. the fact of the matter is that to some extent, I do care a bit. I honestly do. You are just using this thread as an opportunity to play Devil's Advocate.
No I am not, my simple minded instigator. I listen and comment as most do here, your mission is to try and get a date with me you hang on my ass so much. NO dude likey women.
Stop talking about her like she is not in the room.
She is not in the room, Danny.. She is not an Avatar!
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Maruska thanks for your paranoid take on things, is that what happened in your divorce while your daughter was in treatment. Man, must have been a bummer to have so much going on in your life.
Now lets be concerned about sads life and put your projections on hold OK. I mean be concerned about real things not your imaginary scenarios. Is this what you do to all folks you want to help, flood them with your baggage.
Danny
Seems Ursus is correct. Dude.....you are seriously fucked up. Get some help. Soon!
And, maybe I'm off-base for saying this, but it doesn't sound like your problem is with Anne per se. I think you might have a problem with women who think for themselves. Perhaps you feel threatened by that? Come to think of it, your tangles with that "pit-bull" Inculcated also come to mind...
Do ya think he even gets how disjointed and absolutely insane he comes across? He and AA Art appear to be living in some strange, alternate, bizarro universe.
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Maruska thanks for your paranoid take on things, is that what happened in your divorce while your daughter was in treatment. Man, must have been a bummer to have so much going on in your life.
Now lets be concerned about sads life and put your projections on hold OK. I mean be concerned about real things not your imaginary scenarios. Is this what you do to all folks you want to help, flood them with your baggage.
Danny
Seems Ursus is correct. Dude.....you are seriously fucked up. Get some help. Soon!
You know what is fucked up Anne, is you really think your comment above carries any weight in the grand scheme of things.... :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Do you really think that anybody other then about 5 or 6 people here really gives a shit what Ursus says. Stop being a self centered twat.
And, maybe I'm off-base for saying this, but it doesn't sound like your problem is with Anne per se. I think you might have a problem with women who think for themselves. Perhaps you feel threatened by that? Come to think of it, your tangles with that "pit-bull" Inculcated also come to mind...
Do ya think he even gets how disjointed and absolutely insane he comes across? He and AA Art appear to be living in some strange, alternate, bizarro universe.
Hell no how could I, I'm disjointed and absolutely insane and fucking loving it. Thanks for the comparison, Arty Farty is a good dude when his mouth is closed. That bizarro universe I get normally you on the other hand have to drink booze, smoke weed and snort cocaine to get there. Enjoy your weekend please keep your legs closed. Come back with a knew Avatar please.
Danny
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Hell no how could I, I'm disjointed and absolutely insane and fucking loving it. Thanks for the comparison, Arty Farty is a good dude when his mouth is closed. That bizarro universe I get normally you on the other hand have to drink booze, smoke weed and snort cocaine to get there. Enjoy your weekend please keep your legs closed. Come back with a knew Avatar please.
Danny
I found one for her.......
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Hell no how could I, I'm disjointed and absolutely insane and fucking loving it. Thanks for the comparison, Arty Farty is a good dude when his mouth is closed. That bizarro universe I get normally you on the other hand have to drink booze, smoke weed and snort cocaine to get there. Enjoy your weekend please keep your legs closed. Come back with a knew Avatar please.
Danny
I found one for her.......
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Jeesh Feliceesh, where exactly did you have to go to finds this. I was joking....
Danny
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I found it here: http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjGgy1iibio
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I found it here: http://http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ZprVPKi-W6s
:roflmao: You are as close to Israeli as I am Iranian. I seriously doubt your even a practicing Jew.
Jewish a religion and a race, what say you Felicio.
Felice go to facebook and go to the Al Jazeera site, I am not being funny or cruel here the conversations are tremendous. Your input would be great. Though I will say one thing since you brought up your site here. What is happening to the Palestinians is down right un-biblical, we as a world will pay. (1946 "The Exodus") Menachem Begin was once hunted as a terrorist by many countries, he is one of my heroes.
Danny
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
you mean, while your daughter is in the wilderness program?...I just imagine how your ex husband is going to use it at the custody battle: telling the judge you are not stable, you have problems on your own, because you were admitted...
By the way: who has custody of your daughter, and what kind (joint or sole legal?) That is very important in determining your next step...
Is there any relative (grandparents, uncles etc) willing to help you in this situation?
Be careful with PAS allegations...some courts see it as a red flag...
Maruska brings up some very valid points.
As far as how your husband, or anyone else, for that matter, could use this against you ... it could be argued that even attempting such an endeavor -- given the circumstances -- might be reason enough for admitting you! What parent, with a child in crisis, puts themselves in deliberate and unnecessary danger on a whim?
"Parental alienation syndrome" is junk science and bogus. Most courts have started to recognize it for what it is, particularly as details of the originator's personal life have emerged.
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I found it here: http://http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ZprVPKi-W6s
:roflmao: You are as close to Israeli as I am Iranian. I seriously doubt your even a practicing Jew.
Jewish a religion and a race, what say you Felicio.
Felice go to facebook and go to the Al Jazeera site, I am not being funny or cruel here the conversations are tremendous. Your input would be great. Though I will say one thing since you brought up your site here. What is happening to the Palestinians is down right un-biblical, we as a world will pay. (1946 "The Exodus") Menachem Begin was once hunted as a terrorist by many countries, he is one of my heroes.
Danny
Kabbalah is a whole different story........
The Jewish Priesthood is not the same as a Rabbi or practicing Jew.
Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
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I'll get the Liveleak and the 4chan; that's about where we are.
Oh, and Danny? Just an FYI? Your posts are seriously a waste of time. You say absolutely nothing worth anything to anyone. Nobody respects you, and no one is going to agree with a word of it (not even Whooter, unless it serves his purposes of the day). Stop posting.
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
you mean, while your daughter is in the wilderness program?...I just imagine how your ex husband is going to use it at the custody battle: telling the judge you are not stable, you have problems on your own, because you were admitted...
By the way: who has custody of your daughter, and what kind (joint or sole legal?) That is very important in determining your next step...
Is there any relative (grandparents, uncles etc) willing to help you in this situation?
Be careful with PAS allegations...some courts see it as a red flag...
Maruska brings up some very valid points.
As far as how your husband, or anyone else, for that matter, could use this against you ... it could be argued that even attempting such an endeavor -- given the circumstances -- might be reason enough for admitting you! What parent, with a child in crisis, puts themselves in deliberate and unnecessary danger on a whim?
"Parental alienation syndrome" is junk science and bogus. Most courts have started to recognize it for what it is, particularly as details of the originator's personal life have emerged.
Ursus would you seriuosly STFU.....please she is not listening, you folks freaked her out. What your a "Sea Lawyer" now. You are to much everything in your world is a syndrome. Ursus your a syndrome of constant psychosis, "There coming the staffers, the programs, bla bla bla....
Results:
fundamental derangement of the mind (as in schizophrenia) characterized by defective or lost contact with reality especially as evidenced by delusions, hallucinations, and disorganized speech and behavior.
Danny
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I'll get the Liveleak and the 4chan; that's about where we are.
Oh, and Danny? Just an FYI? Your posts are seriously a waste of time. You say absolutely nothing worth anything to anyone. Nobody respects you, and no one is going to agree with a word of it (not even Whooter, unless it serves his purposes of the day). Stop posting.
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DannyB II wrote:
OK let me get this ole Felicio,
Your world here consists of maybe twelve people that allow you to post porn, talk with vulgar filthy language, constantly threadjack posts, speak in some Elanbionics, ect......and I am supposed to be worried that I am not liked or respected by y'all.
On the point of Whooter, Suck It and whoever else that has a different opinion around here, who gives I flying fuck if they like me or respect me. I would say they probably hold the same view.
Felicio I thought you were smart but I am beginning to realize you really are trapped. Buried in a small world here on fornits that you find confortable. You can't be anywhere else because they would laugh at you, you would be a enigma, a troll. So please stop trying to talk about me like I am part of your world, I am not and I will never be. You are a troubled jaded women like I told you many months ago.
I find you folks to be a small band of misfits with the intellectual might of a mouse, thinking you are lions. Ursus proves this everytime he writes, thinking he knows best (with authority) to tell folks what their shortcomings are concerning their decisions. I don't think that it possibly occurred to you, Ursus that you may not be right. Your intimidating the new comer with your righteousness.
Just some thoughts Felicio to think on......
Danny
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
you mean, while your daughter is in the wilderness program?...I just imagine how your ex husband is going to use it at the custody battle: telling the judge you are not stable, you have problems on your own, because you were admitted...
By the way: who has custody of your daughter, and what kind (joint or sole legal?) That is very important in determining your next step...
Is there any relative (grandparents, uncles etc) willing to help you in this situation?
Be careful with PAS allegations...some courts see it as a red flag...
Maruska brings up some very valid points.
As far as how your husband, or anyone else, for that matter, could use this against you ... it could be argued that even attempting such an endeavor -- given the circumstances -- might be reason enough for admitting you! What parent, with a child in crisis, puts themselves in deliberate and unnecessary danger on a whim?
"Parental alienation syndrome" is junk science and bogus. Most courts have started to recognize it for what it is, particularly as details of the originator's personal life have emerged.
Ursus would you seriuosly STFU.....please she is not listening, you folks freaked her out. What your a "Sea Lawyer" now. You are to much everything in your world is a syndrome. Ursus your a syndrome of constant psychosis, "There coming the staffers, the programs, bla bla bla....
Results:
fundamental derangement of the mind (as in schizophrenia) characterized by defective or lost contact with reality especially as evidenced by delusions, hallucinations, and disorganized speech and behavior.
Danny
Wow. You really don't "read" for comprehension, do you? I didn't make up "parental alienation syndrome," Richard Gardner did. Nor did I bring it up, Sad did. I just had the audacity to comment on it. Imagine that.
I didn't know what a "Sea Lawyer" was, so I looked it up. I really had to laugh, given the nature of the accuser :D ... Everything2.com had a pretty good definition (http://http://everything2.com/title/Sea+lawyer) of it:
"Sea lawyer" is also US Naval slang for a sailor who has an intimate knowledge of the rules and regulations (or thinks he does). The sea lawyer makes an unholy pain in the ass of himself by forever quoting rules that "excuse" his laziness and bad behavior -- especially his unwillingness to do what's required of him. The sea lawyer never just shuts up and does his damn job.
My understanding is that it's not a complimentary term. "Malignant parasite" might be a close synonym, perhaps?[/list]
Wordnik also had a great quote (http://http://www.wordnik.com/words/sea%20lawyer):
Every ship had sea lawyers — like rats, they were a fact of Naval life — and Hickey, despite his bad grammar and total lack of formal education, struck Crozier as the kind of sea lawyer that, on a difficult voyage, soon began fomenting actual mutiny. —The Terror[/list]
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I'll get the Liveleak and the 4chan; that's about where we are.
Oh, and Danny? Just an FYI? Your posts are seriously a waste of time. You say absolutely nothing worth anything to anyone. Nobody respects you, and no one is going to agree with a word of it (not even Whooter, unless it serves his purposes of the day). Stop posting.
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OK let me get this ole Felicio,
Your world here consists of maybe twelve people that allow you to post porn, talk with vulgar filthy language, constantly threadjack posts, speak in some Elanbionics, ect......and I am supposed to be worried that I am not liked or respected by y'all.
On the point of Whooter, Suck It and whoever else that has a different opinion around here, who gives I flying fuck if they like me or respect me. I would say they probably hold the same view.
Felicio I thought you were smart but I am beginning to realize you really are trapped. Buried in a small world here on fornits that you find confortable. You can't be anywhere else because they would laugh at you, you would be a enigma, a troll. So please stop trying to talk about me like I am part of your world, I am not and I will never be. You are a troubled jaded women like I told you many months ago.
I find you folks to be a small band of misfits with the intellectual might of a mouse, thinking you are lions. Ursus proves this everytime he writes, thinking he knows best (with authority) to tell folks what their shortcomings are concerning their decisions. I don't think that it possibly occurred to you, Ursus that you may not be right. Your intimidating the new comer with your righteousness.
Just some thoughts Felicio to think on......
Danny
Here is an example of how we were spoken to in Elan.
Thank you Danny.
Maura, did you get that?
It was a DIVERSION from THIS:
Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
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:roflmao: You are as close to Israeli as I am Iranian. I seriously doubt your even a practicing Jew.
Jewish a religion and a race, what say you Felicio.
Felice go to facebook and go to the Al Jazeera site, I am not being funny or cruel here the conversations are tremendous. Your input would be great. Though I will say one thing since you brought up your site here. What is happening to the Palestinians is down right un-biblical, we as a world will pay. (1946 "The Exodus") Menachem Begin was once hunted as a terrorist by many countries, he is one of my heroes.
Danny
Kabbalah is a whole different story........
The Jewish Priesthood is not the same as a Rabbi or practicing Jew.
Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
Kabbalah is a whole different story........
The Jewish Priesthood is not the same as a Rabbi or practicing Jew.
Results:
1. medieval and modern system of Jewish theosophy, mysticism, and thaumaturge marked by belief in creation through emanation and a cipher method of interpreting Scripture
2 a.traditional, esoteric, occult, or secret matter. b.esoteric doctrine or mysterious art.
I am not one to prejudice another belief especially one so personal. So I applaud your spirit.
Though I find it hard to believe that you could be nothing short of a atheistic pretending to be esoteric within Kabbalah. See being from Ct. where there is such a large population of Jews, Kabbalah came up very often, especially with the young Jews who had just come back from Isreal. They had gone to be a part of a kibbutz. If you have gone to Isreal over the last 30 yrs or so you would have noticed that many of the owners of these kibbutzs are very progressive folk, many practice kabbalah, live the life of Jewish mysticism.
I'm sure you can go on and elaborate more then I on this subject but I just wanted to share this, my little bit of knowledge on the subject.
Your post above only proves your a lost wanna be in the Jewish world, find your ancestors and believe again. You don't have your truth yet Felice and it shows. I don't believe you know who you are.
OH and just so you know Jewish Priesthood...Kohan...Kohanim....Aaronites...Rabbinic Laws of the Torah...Older brother of Moses, performed the specific duties especially for Yom Kippur.
Rabbi's were your spiritual leaders/teachers.
Danny
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Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
If you hate everbody here, why stay?
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Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
If you hate everbody here, why stay?
You are so funny...Hmmmmmmm......I wonder why you never heard of me?????????????? anywhere Felicio. Because I don't seek attention (except here....lol). They threw me out of that court house. I saw Joe, Marty, Marc and Sharon. I was there in Bridgeport CT Felice in 1998 and in 2000, I watched all the fan fair, people making money from news organizations the whole thing and it made me sick to my stomach, just like you do. Your no different from the news organization, the prosecutor, Frank Garr, Mark Furman ect....because I would not play ball they tried to black ball me. Frank Garr wanted me to say that I knew Michael killed Martha.....I said, "no".
See Felice I was already threatened to be exposed as a abuser at Elan during that time, a news organization wanted to, Frank Garr wanted to and the prosecutor wanted to, all because I would not say what they wanted me to say.
What I did say was this, " I never received any concrete verbal admission from Michael that he either knew of Martha's Killer/s or that he killed her, ever.
I was thinking of Marthas mother and the fact that I could not help bring justice to her.
My morals and ethics are good Felice whether you know this or not.
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Just heard from a patient that there's abusive treatment there. Anyone here been there and has seen it too?
I'd like to get myself admitted with some kind of device that can tape and record what goes on there and then proceed to file a lawsuit.
you mean, while your daughter is in the wilderness program?...I just imagine how your ex husband is going to use it at the custody battle: telling the judge you are not stable, you have problems on your own, because you were admitted...
By the way: who has custody of your daughter, and what kind (joint or sole legal?) That is very important in determining your next step...
Is there any relative (grandparents, uncles etc) willing to help you in this situation?
Be careful with PAS allegations...some courts see it as a red flag...
Maruska thanks for your paranoid take on things, is that what happened in your divorce while your daughter was in treatment. Man, must have been a bummer to have so much going on in your life.
Now lets be concerned about sads life and put your projections on hold OK. I mean be concerned about real things not your imaginary scenarios. Is this what you do to all folks you want to help, flood them with your baggage.
Danny
LOL..Danny you are so funny! ( and I almost missed this party LOL)
Paranoid? Me? well...surprise, surprise: there are actually people in this world who are not divorced (married 21 years and counting) and who did not send their children to programs!
Now I wonder who is projecting? LOL
In any case , sad did not come back so it is irrelevant.
Have a great day, Danny and thanks for the laugh!
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Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
If you hate everbody here, why stay?
You are so funny...Hmmmmmmm......I wonder why you never heard of me?????????????? anywhere Felice. Because I don't seek attention (except here....lol). They threw me out of that court house. I saw Joe, Marty, Marc and Sharon. I was there in Bridgeport CT Felice in 1998 and in 2000, I watched all the fan fair, people making money from news organizations the whole thing and it made me sick to my stomach, just like you do. Your no different from the news organization, the prosecutor, Frank Garr, Mark Furman ect....because I would not play ball they tried to black ball me. Frank Garr wanted me to say that I knew Michael killed Martha.....I said, "no".
See Felice I was already threatened to be exposed as a abuser at Elan during that time, a news organization wanted to, Frank Garr wanted to and the prosecutor wanted to, all because I would not say what they wanted me to say.
What I did say was this, " I never received any concrete verbal admission from Michael that he either knew of Martha's Killer/s or that he killed her, ever.
I was thinking of Marthas mother and the fact that I could not help bring justice to her.
My morals and ethics are good Felice whether you know this or not.
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Where are your Morals and Ethics when an Innocent Man is Rotting in Prison? ::puke::
I am sure you never reported any of this activity to the proper people.
You knew this was going on and you just let them find someone who would say anything....maybe for some dope?
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DannyB II wrote
Maruska thanks for your paranoid take on things, is that what happened in your divorce while your daughter was in treatment. Man, must have been a bummer to have so much going on in your life.
Now lets be concerned about sads life and put your projections on hold OK. I mean be concerned about real things not your imaginary scenarios. Is this what you do to all folks you want to help, flood them with your baggage.
Maruska wrote:
LOL..Danny you are so funny! ( and I almost missed this party LOL)
Paranoid? Me? well...surprise, surprise: there are actually people in this world who are not divorced (married 21 years and counting) and who did not send their children to programs!
Now I wonder who is projecting? LOl In any case, sad did not come back so it is irrelevant.
Have a great day, Danny and thanks for the laugh!
It was meant to be a projection with humor. Thanks for someone finally seeing my slapstick humor.......lol.
No "SAD" did not come back and that is sad. I was married 16 yrs., had 2 children their adults now and I did not send mine to a program. They also did not grow up in the same pathological environment that I grew up in, as I sure was the case for you. Don't pat yourself on the back to much, Maruska. The Gods were protecting you.
Danny
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Felice wrote:
Did you learn all of this while being molested as a boy?
Where you molested by a JEWISH CARTOON?
Does insulting EVERYODY help you with your ERECTILE DISFUNCTION?
Why did you drill holes in that paddle Danny?
Why did you drag that girl behind the a Van?
Why did you lie at Michael Skakel's Trial?
How much did you get paid to lie?
Did you feel powerful while torturing kids...especially the Rich ones?
Have you washed the taste of Ken Zaretsky's nasty ol shrivveled dick out of your mouth yet?
When did you become an expert on Judiasm?
Why do you worship a DEAD JEW and call him G-d?
Why do you spend all day on Fornits when ABSOLUTELY NOBODY likes you?
If you hate everbody here, why stay?
DannyB II wrote:
You are so funny...Hmmmmmmm......I wonder why you never heard of me?????????????? anywhere Felice. Because I don't seek attention (except here....lol). They threw me out of that court house. I saw Joe, Marty, Marc and Sharon. I was there in Bridgeport CT Felice in 1998 and in 2000, I watched all the fan fair, people making money from news organizations the whole thing and it made me sick to my stomach, just like you do. Your no different from the news organization, the prosecutor, Frank Garr, Mark Furman ect....because I would not play ball they tried to black ball me. Frank Garr wanted me to say that I knew Michael killed Martha.....I said, "no".
See Felice I was already threatened to be exposed as a abuser at Elan during that time, a news organization wanted to, Frank Garr wanted to and the prosecutor wanted to, all because I would not say what they wanted me to say.
What I did say was this, " I never received any concrete verbal admission from Michael that he either knew of Martha's Killer/s or that he killed her, ever.
I was thinking of Marthas mother and the fact that I could not help bring justice to her.
My morals and ethics are good Felice whether you know this or not.
Felice wrote:
Where are your Morals and Ethics when an Innocent Man is Rotting in Prison?
I am sure you never reported any of this activity to the proper people.
You knew this was going on and you just let them find someone who would say anything....maybe for some dope?
DannyB II wrote:
Felice a innocent man that you don't even know anything about is more then likely sitting in Jail because a group of his peers said he was guilty. My opinion they have one of the guilty parties.
I never reported any of this activity to the proper people, who the judge or maybe the press no no maybe Patrick Kennedy. Ya that would have been the right thing to do for me. Put myself in a "Double Bind".
They did find someone Mike Higgins who lived with Michael at Elan, from Chicago. They wanted corroboration I could not do that.
Sorry thought I was doing the right thing Felice.
Is this your idea of creating a Double Bind for me, exactly what you learned at Elan.
Danny
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Violent actions of the bad people
Silence and indifference of the good people
http://http://www.youtube.com/witness4justice
Keep telling yourself you did all you were capable of doing.
One day you will believe yourself.
I never will!
FREE MICHAEL
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Violent actions of the bad people
Silence and indifference of the good people
http://http://www.youtube.com/witness4justice
Keep telling yourself you did all you were capable of doing.
One day you will believe yourself.
I never will!
FREE MICHAEL
You don't even know him or any of the circumstances.
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Violent actions of the bad people
Silence and indifference of the good people
http://http://www.youtube.com/witness4justice
Keep telling yourself you did all you were capable of doing.
One day you will believe yourself.
I never will!
FREE MICHAEL
You don't even know him or any of the circumstances.
Gee Danny your a real brain surgeon.....
Eliscu1 knows, did you forget? :rofl:
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Violent actions of the bad people
Silence and indifference of the good people
http://http://www.youtube.com/witness4justice
Keep telling yourself you did all you were capable of doing.
One day you will believe yourself.
I never will!
FREE MICHAEL
You don't even know him or any of the circumstances.
Gee Danny your a real brain surgeon.....
Eliscu1 knows, did you forget? :rofl:
I'll say it again "YOU" don't even know him or the circumstances and trust me dope fiend "1" does not either. Already thought about him, oh and BTW ask "1" if he knows me I was there when he came in. Not as staff but in another capacity.
Danny
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Well Danny seeing as how Eliscu1 was never a dope fiend obviously you are fishing for info AGAIN.
You must have him confused with Eliscu3, the dope fiend who went to Valley View School.
Keep trolling...... :beat:
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Not trying to upset Danny the Dimwit Attention Whore here, but...back to the subject matter...
If anyone wants to check this place out, let me know. I'm aware of the Four Winds chain and know quite a few people who worked at Daytop that went to work for Four Winds, so abuse allegations don't startle my senses.
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Not trying to upset Danny the Dimwit Attention Whore here, but...back to the subject matter.
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Hey I am still waiting to hear from you big guy. I'll be in the city July 4th downtown. Call we'll get together.
Now com'on lets be fair you know it is not attention I'm looking for. I want the truth here that's it. Thanks for saying hi in your way.....lol.
If anyone wants to check this place out, let me know. I'm aware of the Four Winds chain and know quite a few people who worked at Daytop that went to work for Four Winds, so abuse allegations don't startle my senses.
Good going.....just terrible people.
Danny
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Well Danny seeing as how Eliscu1 was never a dope fiend obviously you are fishing for info AGAIN.
You don't have to shoot dope to be a dope fiend. You should know that. No fishing, you have nothing to trawl for.
You must have him confused with Eliscu3, the dope fiend who went to Valley View School.
Keep trolling...... :beat:
Ya the one you don't speak of well here.
Danny