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I was there for the Joey incident. All of it.

So kids who attempt escape are told not to do it, it is explained to them why they need to stay for their full year, then watched to make sure they don't run away again? Okay. I'm sure that is to be feared. :roll:

Have you ever even met Joey? I hung out with him quite a bit when he was at the Whitmore. I know him, and I know his personality; along with his games. This is one. You're in it.

Then they can take it that way. However, it is not intended as such and I thought that was obvious. Thank you for reminding me of the idiots wandering around here, though. I appreciate it.

Sue talks with the parent and finds out what they're looking for. If they're looking for something rough, she gives them a list of somethings that are rough, but with warnings if they've been investigated for child abuse or any other form of misconduct.

She gives parents what they're looking for, along with her two cents. She's doing her job.

Give the lady a break.

Some people have faith. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion and decision of which "side" to choose.

And for those "doubting Thomas" individuals we have reading this...

Come out and see, in Nephi, UT. I dare you. Come and see what it's really like here, all the "awful" things that go on here.

You'd be surprised, to those on Joyce's "side" of this game.

I'm serious about coming out here. Get the number from our website, call it, and find a date and time you could come out and check things out for yourself.

Really. I'll be waiting for you.[ This Message was edited by: mouse on 2005-06-12 12:37 ]

Let me set a few moments aside to assist you with your questions, Gmom...

How many laws have the Sudweeks broken?
None. There was one conviction in Canada of animal abuse (as I've seen you've turned inside and out), but as the majority of the members of this forum just love to boast, there are always two sides to a story. Looks like you just saw the wrong one.

How much money have they scammed?
None. Read the contract, sweetheart. If parents want their money back, tough luck. It's their fault for not reading the part where it says if you take your kid out early, you still have to pay for a period of time afterwards.

How many kids have they humiliated?
None. Kids may tease kids, and kids may do extremely idiotic things and make themselves look like idiots (I think your granddaughter is a wonderful example of this), but the Sudweeks don't do a thing to humiliate anyone. They're actually quite nice.

How many kids has Cheryl spit in their face?
Well, first off, I need to correct that horrible grammar of yours. Tsk, tsk, tsk. I'd think an old lady like yourself would've gotten through at least elementary school. You poor thing... low IQ's really are sad. The correct way to write your sentence would be, "How many kids have had Cheryl spit in his or her face?" And the answer to that is... you guessed it, none. Kids have spit in her face, however. I've seen it happen. Your granddaughter was one of them. Quite the rude little druggie, wouldn't you say? Ah, of course you wouldn't. You're too busy praising the mask she wears for you.

Edd is right... you can't turn a ho into a housewife. Ho's, they just don't act right.

How about I answer your questions for you?

No, kids didn't "get confined to a room w/o free access to a bathroom, water, or food". I've seen kids stay in that room, and it's a bedroom, just a small one. Big deal, not. It has a bunk bed with normal-sized twin beds, a dresser, plenty of room for things under the bed which is raised about two feet or so from the ground, and there is a working, and very nice bathroom attached to the room. A plate of food with normal-sized helpings of the meal the rest of the kids are eating is brought to anyone staying in the room at mealtime, while the food is still hot. There is a large water bottle kept by the room's resident, and if it needs to be refilled, all they need to do is ask, and it is done right away. The longest I've seen someone stay in that room is a few days, and they read books, did reports and other schoolwork. That room is where kids stay when we find them making plans to run away; it's just to keep an extra eye on them.

The spitting in the food bit... yeah, when a girl was up there almost two years ago, someone did spit in her waffle. He got in trouble for it and had to do some responsibility packets, and had privledges revoked. And yes, before you ask, we did have group on it. That was the only time it happened. If it happened any other times, no one bothered to let anyone know about it, so that's their personal problem.

So, as you can see, the adults here (and not to mention the majority of the kids) do not, under any cirsumstances, condone or accept spitting in others' food or other obvious disrespect and debasement.

I know those kids that ran away. One of them, I had a long, serious talk with only two days or so before he left. They seemed to be pretty bored, and also missed the other kids a lot who had left upon their graduation from high school recently. Those kids have gone to a far worse environment. I mean, a rock concert of all places? I've been to a ton, and I know just what they're like. Good job, Joyce Harris, not. And I'm sure you'd send little Zita to such a place? Right...

Wanna talk about the law, Joyce? And court? Well, you had this coming to you...

I hope you know well that you could easily go to jail for assisting three minors in running away from their place of legal residence and from their current guardians. If charged, you could get ten years. Maybe more. Does that piss you off enough? Why don't you go take it out on your sweet little girl again? She has more of a heart than you'll ever have. Jealous, hon?

That's my two cents on that... any more questions?