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Title: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
Hello Fornits, just your friendly, neighborhood WWASP fighter here... :)

I wanted to ask if everyone is satisfied with the large orange "object" (have no clue what that thing is) next to your text logo? Though I realize the decision making aspect ultimately relies on Ginger, I wanted to ask whether everyone besides Ginger is satisfied with your identity as a community (maybe wrong word?)... Perhaps we could sway the nice woman into changing it?

If a graphic designer can't interpret an object on your website... I'll stop there for now..

My interpretation of this image is that is came from a very old design, and you are hanging on to that for some reason (originality, the feelings you felt in creating this site.. etc). But, it is my PROFESSIONAL opinion (if I was quoting your website for a design) would be to update your identity. I think you'd be surprised at the results you will get in people feeling a deeper "sense of belonging", mostly attributed to visually pleasing imagery, and a professional identity... But hey, don't take my word for it, I can send 50 designers your way and you will inevitably get the same response from 45 of them. I rarely speak (or post) unless I can back it up with proof, and I can give you proof in results, if you heed my advice.

My intention is not to criticize, however, I've been hesitant to link up with fornits up until this post, being as my focus is graphic and web development and you have a giant spire or angel or something up there looking at me...

What is that thing and where did it come from? Perhaps we could redo a version of it that is a bit more "web 2.0" once you tell me what it is? Psy mentioned that you won't budge here Ginger, but the way I see it I personally get prodded into actions that may be better for the group (rather than the individual) all the time. Perhaps I'd like to see someone else forced into action by a collective consensus, but who knows, I'm an asshole for the most part. (trust me i really do know im an ass...)

Anyways, please share your thoughts here because I am offering to do the logo pro-bono, and I'm sure Psy won't hesitate to crank out a prototype as well based on his feelings on this issue..

Nostalgia, in this case, is painful for me to see...
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 12:32:17 PM
Shut up.  :fuckoff:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Antigen on November 30, 2008, 12:44:28 PM
That design is called Autumn Fairy. Some people have interpreted her as a x-tian angel, but she never was partial to any particular religion or philosophy. I suppose the image has become degraded over time due to resizing and such. Maybe I can dig up an older version and rework it from scratch? I must admit, I don't care for the color clash w/ the PhpBB blue. She looked much more at home on the old buff parchment background, imho. I'd be interested in improving that. But I also don't want to move toward a more professional look and feel. This is not a professional site at all. It's an open free-for-all for any and all with any sort of interest in the thought reform industry. Matter of fact, I rather like the idea that the 'professionals' might feel a bit less at home.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 12:51:35 PM
Quote from: "Antigen"
- It's an open free-for-all*

*with the exception of secret password protected forums
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 01:17:45 PM
what's the point of reading these rediculous guest posts? or why not require registration like the other 90 percent of forums on the internet? you really don't stand to benefit in my opinion from these losers who use this place to fuel their hunger for conflict.. its like an infestation.. your database is full of garbage... clogged and unhealthy garbage, you should purge them. i really figured you for an innovator ginger, someone who sees change as a means for growth... these "stubborn" ideals don't improve your website, on the contrary, I've avoided fornits for so long for that reason alone. I have to choose besides function and form, and should i really have to? why not provide both? you're entitled to do whatever you wish as you own this site and everything inside it, and i'm just stating an opinion so it can be lost in the pile with everyone elses opinions i suppose, but these changes would improve your website's overall look and feel, and make yourself look more appear a bit more "giving" in the process. now i realize you don't care a lot about how others view you, i'm sure you could probably care less. thats not the point, you're the one in control. i would create a forum to steal your traffic in a moderated environment but im only an asshole, not a fucktard. such is the beauty of unmoderated forums, correct? i can do WHATEVER i want... so at this point, what i want is to tear the heart and sole of your webforums out, and steal all the traffic, will these posts also stand aside the rest of the unmoderated content? or will you delete them to benefit yourself while i try to manipulate your audience?

i can live with unmoderated forums when the content of the visitors posts have relevance, but you've unleashed these society rejects with free reign to confront and torment legitimate people with vested interests, without any control. it's alarming. Free Speech is invaluable, but i am going to try to develop a plan to dispose of the people who's sole purpose is "getting a rise" and "fucking with people". i would hate to have to steal your audience, and i'm not threatening you at all, there is just a legitimate need for a larger moderated forum with content you seem to have already accumulated. i'm sure there are several people here more than willing to pack up, move, and be troll-free, does that sound unreasonable?

this is not a personally directed message, i'm writing this to the webmaster and administrator of a website in my genre, so the way i see it, i'm actually just stating my intentions. i also believe your content to be the primary reason for your traffic, its just a shame i have to dig through pounds of bullshit to find the gems, i simply don't have that kind of time. so all-in-all, i'm just asking you to bend in favor of the common good, regardless of personal or emotional beliefs. there is no benefit to me personally here, i just want to see this place be as awesome as it's capable of being.

great job so far by the way, all these years and you're still doing things your way, or the highway, you must be doing something right (tried really hard to be nice here!) lol... again, take it as an attack if you wish, but i'm more just picking your brain to understand why someone so intelligent can't weigh the argument with logic involved... how about this, if there was a way to take out every troll, would you do it?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
what's the point of reading these rediculous guest posts? or why not require registration like the other 90 percent of forums on the internet? you really don't stand to benefit in my opinion from these losers who use this place to fuel their hunger for conflict.. its like an infestation.. your database is full of garbage... clogged and unhealthy garbage, you should purge them. i really figured you for an innovator ginger, someone who sees change as a means for growth... these "stubborn" ideals don't improve your website, on the contrary, I've avoided fornits for so long for that reason alone. I have to choose besides function and form, and should i really have to? why not provide both? you're entitled to do whatever you wish as you own this site and everything inside it, and i'm just stating an opinion so it can be lost in the pile with everyone elses opinions i suppose, but these changes would improve your website's overall look and feel, and make yourself look more appear a bit more "giving" in the process. now i realize you don't care a lot about how others view you, i'm sure you could probably care less. thats not the point, you're the one in control. i would create a forum to steal your traffic in a moderated environment but im only an asshole, not a fucktard. such is the beauty of unmoderated forums, correct? i can do WHATEVER i want... so at this point, what i want is to tear the heart and sole of your webforums out, and steal all the traffic, will these posts also stand aside the rest of the unmoderated content? or will you delete them to benefit yourself while i try to manipulate your audience?

i can live with unmoderated forums when the content of the visitors posts have relevance, but you've unleashed these society rejects with free reign to confront and torment legitimate people with vested interests, without any control. it's alarming. Free Speech is invaluable, but i am going to try to develop a plan to dispose of the people who's sole purpose is "getting a rise" and "fucking with people". i would hate to have to steal your audience, and i'm not threatening you at all, there is just a legitimate need for a larger moderated forum with content you seem to have already accumulated. i'm sure there are several people here more than willing to pack up, move, and be troll-free, does that sound unreasonable?

this is not a personally directed message, i'm writing this to the webmaster and administrator of a website in my genre, so the way i see it, i'm actually just stating my intentions. i also believe your content to be the primary reason for your traffic, its just a shame i have to dig through pounds of bullshit to find the gems, i simply don't have that kind of time. so all-in-all, i'm just asking you to bend in favor of the common good, regardless of personal or emotional beliefs. there is no benefit to me personally here, i just want to see this place be as awesome as it's capable of being.

great job so far by the way, all these years and you're still doing things your way, or the highway, you must be doing something right (tried really hard to be nice here!) lol... again, take it as an attack if you wish, but i'm more just picking your brain to understand why someone so intelligent can't weigh the argument with logic involved... how about this, if there was a way to take out every troll, would you do it?

How many trolls were referring kids to abusive programs like you did? None that I know of.

BTW, your forum sucks.  :twofinger:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
what's the point of reading these rediculous guest posts?

If ya don't like it, go back to your forum. Oh, that's right, it only gets 1 new post per week. *crickets*


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or why not require registration like the other 90 percent of forums on the internet?

Then this forum would suck just as much as yours does.


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you really don't stand to benefit in my opinion from these losers who use this place to fuel their hunger for conflict.. its like an infestation.. your database is full of garbage... clogged and unhealthy garbage, you should purge them.

How very stalinesque of you.


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i really figured you for an innovator ginger, someone who sees change as a means for growth... these "stubborn" ideals don't improve your website, on the contrary, I've avoided fornits for so long for that reason alone.

Maybe fornits should completely restructure itself to your whims, Kevin. You really are a self-centered ego maniac, aren't ya?

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I have to choose besides function and form, and should i really have to? why not provide both?

Because it's all about you, right?


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you're entitled to do whatever you wish as you own this site and everything inside it, and i'm just stating an opinion so it can be lost in the pile with everyone elses opinions i suppose, but these changes would improve your website's overall look and feel, and make yourself look more appear a bit more "giving" in the process.

 :roflmao:

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now i realize you don't care a lot about how others view you, i'm sure you could probably care less. thats not the point, you're the one in control.

 :rofl:


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i would create a forum to steal your traffic in a moderated environment but im only an asshole, not a fucktard. such is the beauty of unmoderated forums, correct? i can do WHATEVER i want... so at this point, what i want is to tear the heart and sole of your webforums out, and steal all the traffic, will these posts also stand aside the rest of the unmoderated content? or will you delete them to benefit yourself while i try to manipulate your audience?

You are an arrogant prick. Nobody is going to follow you over to your forum. Why? Because it sucks.

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i can live with unmoderated forums when the content of the visitors posts have relevance, but you've unleashed these society rejects with free reign to confront and torment legitimate people with vested interests, without any control. it's alarming.

Alert the internet police! :bs:

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Free Speech is invaluable, but i am going to try to develop a plan to dispose of the people who's sole purpose is "getting a rise" and "fucking with people". i would hate to have to steal your audience, and i'm not threatening you at all, there is just a legitimate need for a larger moderated forum with content you seem to have already accumulated. i'm sure there are several people here more than willing to pack up, move, and be troll-free, does that sound unreasonable?

Man, you're pathetic.  :roflmao:

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this is not a personally directed message, i'm writing this to the webmaster and administrator of a website in my genre, so the way i see it, i'm actually just stating my intentions. i also believe your content to be the primary reason for your traffic, its just a shame i have to dig through pounds of bullshit to find the gems, i simply don't have that kind of time.

But you have time to write long posts complaining about how this forum isn't just the way you want it?

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so all-in-all, i'm just asking you to bend in favor of the common good, regardless of personal or emotional beliefs. there is no benefit to me personally here, i just want to see this place be as awesome as it's capable of being.

Common good?  :roflmao: You just want to see this place as dead as your forum. Or you're stupid. Take your pick.

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great job so far by the way, all these years and you're still doing things your way, or the highway, you must be doing something right (tried really hard to be nice here!) lol... again, take it as an attack if you wish, but i'm more just picking your brain to understand why someone so intelligent can't weigh the argument with logic involved... how about this, if there was a way to take out every troll, would you do it?

I'd rather deal with 1000 trolls than your self centered arrogant bullshit. You are no different than Sue Scheff, referring kids to abusive programs just as long as it ain't wwasp. The universe doesn't revolve around you, just a friendly reminder.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 01:49:13 PM
thank you mr troll, your comments have so much bearing in my life... i will remember this forever.. bwahahah
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 01:49:37 PM
Kev.  I suggest asking Ginger her reasons, perhaps calling her up.  You might either agree or find that she has solid reasons for the way she runs the forum.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Antigen on November 30, 2008, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
how about this, if there was a way to take out every troll, would you do it?

Nope
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
So how's that "unity alliance" going, with one member forum basically declaring war on the other?  :roflmao:  :jerry:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
So how's that "unity alliance" going, with one member forum basically declaring war on the other?  :roflmao:  :jerry:

Look, Kev.  It's probably best if you apologize for offending the members of this forum.  You may think it's funny, but a large percentage of this forum are guests, and calling them all societal rejects will not make friends, neither will coming on here and attempting to dictate policy.  I'm not offended because I realize you were trying to help, but that probably isn't going to be the case with most others.  If you want to discuss how things are done on Fornits you're probably better off asking "why are things this way" or calling up Ginger and having her explain.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Ursus on November 30, 2008, 02:12:29 PM
This issue came up before, 'bout a year and a half ago, brought up by Ginger herself if I recall, so don't rag on Kev too much for bringing it up (although the timing could have been a tad more sensitive).

Regardless of the moniker "autumn fairy," the design is based on old European wood carvings of angels. And I am very partial to it. Reworking the design from a less multiple generation sounds like a good idea. I'd also recommend moving the Fornits-WWF text a little further away from it, if possible, to help it stand out more and clarify the image... Speaking of the text, please don't change it. It is practically a trademark at this point.

Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
My interpretation of this image is that is came from a very old design, and you are hanging on to that for some reason (originality, the feelings you felt in creating this site.. etc). But, it is my PROFESSIONAL opinion (if I was quoting your website for a design) would be to update your identity. I think you'd be surprised at theresults you will get in people feeling a deeper "sense of belonging", mostly attributed to visually pleasing imagery, and a professional identity... But hey, don't take my word for it, I can send 50 designers your way and you will inevitably get the same response from 45 of them. I rarely speak (or post) unless I can back it up with proof, and I can give you proof in results, if you heed my advice.

With all due respect, Kev, here's the problem with that outlook: there are different kinds of markets out there, and the success (or lack thereof) of products offered to some of them really can't be measured by the "hipness" of logo appearance. Some markets are really more focused on "integrity," for example, and folks start getting real suspicious about change. Not saying that it can't or shouldn't happen, just that you really have to be absolutely sure you know where you are going, before you start tinkering with that concept.

Here's an interesting recent blog entry on The Brand Builder (http://http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/):

Chronic logo redesign vs. preserving brand integrity: Pepsi-Cola vs. Coca-Cola? (http://http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/chronic-logo-redesign-vs-preserving-brand-integrity-pepsi-cola-vs-coca-cola/)
October 27, 2008 by Olivier Blanchard

...But I guess once you get past the cool time capsule thing, you kind of have to wonder: Has each change in logo actually resulted in some kind of benefit for the Pepsi Cola company? Has the Pepsi brand been strengthened by every new logo design? Has each new logo helped boost sales of Pepsi Cola over time? Has the company’s chronic change of emblem and packaging art had a measurable impact on the company’s bottom-line?[/list]

Blanchard airs more thoughts in the comments section:

I used to be very much against logo redesigns, but I am much more relaxed about them now, as long as a redesign follows certain rules:

1. The redesign must serve a specific purpose.
2. The redesign must benefit the brand in both the short and long term.
3. The redesign absolutely cannot be the result of either a) a new agency wanting to put their mark on a client’s most obvious piece of property, or b) a newly appointed executive within the company’s need to put his/her mark on the company’s most obvious piece of property.

I have seen item #3 happen so many times that I’ve grown a little suspicious of anyone recommending a logo change without serious justification. :)

Besides, once you start down that road, it gets slippery fast.

In my opinion, unless a logo is so horrible that it actually hurts a brand, any logo changes should be so subtle that most people wouldn’t notice them.[/list]

He also goes on to point out examples in which frequent logo change seems to be in keeping with and perhaps beneficial for the company or its products (e.g., Apple). Clearly, it depends. Personally, I think Apple is so well known, it can afford to mess with its logos, though they always seem to have an apple in there somewhere, eh? Apple is also known for its design innovations per se, so tinkering with their logos is fully in keeping with what they do product-wise.

Somehow, I rather doubt that Fornits is as well known as Apple. And its product, hosting an ongoing discussion re. the TTI, seems to have little to do with design issues, and a LOT more to do with the integrity of the product, namely lack of censorship, etc...

Just my 4¢, for what it's worth...
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 02:14:23 PM
but the point of this was to get the massive reaction that has already been brought about... thats the point of fornits right... one big huge contradiction... i'm going to leave now, at psy's request so we can continue working on the anti program portal.

since i'm so self centered and only focused on myself... lol, you aren't paying attention are you julie? i can appreciate your outrageous and unfounded commentary on the matter, but you look like an idiot when someone offers their services PRO BONO, meaning (No monetary benefit, i get the feeling you're a bit slow so i thought i'd include that too) and you call that being self-centered.. you contradict yourself the more you open your mouth, i would just stop while you're only slightly lagging behind..

i could take the time to pick apart your post, full of "sucks" this "sucks" that. but there really is nothing to gain. i would actually be hurting myself by responding, for degrading myself enough to completely retort such a meaningless post. you had no merit, you realize that.. you even made untrue statements... 1 post a week (albeit an exaggeration) is rediculous, the forums have 11,000 posts, over the course of the last 12 months (started over a while back).. you obviously aren't very good at math..

 perhaps you attended a behavior mod facility and that is the reason for your lack of intelligence and intellect, but again, im just a self centered prick... and in the scope of forming an anti program portal for the sole purpose of awareness of these issues, your comments about my short lived time as a referral person are extinct.. meaning at one time i took advantage of a horribly selfish loophole when i had no money. i've seen people suck cock for crack, rob old ladies, and you're going to spend this much time on my short lived time as a referral person (less than 2 weeks)... and for the record NO TEEN ENTERED A PROGRAM FROM THESE MATTERS... no result... no one was harmed... so while you can blame and point fingers and toss around more blame to gain a better position in the argument, you're actually wrong about most of what you posted. but again we're at fornits right? the home of "no accountability for your actions"...

now i think i'll go back to work on my selfish projects that have helped hundreds of teens.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 02:23:15 PM
thanks for offering something besides the usual bullshit ursus. great insight as always, wish everyone behaved themselves over here, then there could be forward motion... i suppose the mistake was in my interpretation of this place.. but psy asked me to not get involved here anymore... so i have to hold my tongue for the benefit of the organizations forming our alliance..

and to whoever posted before about infighting and not being able to get started?

lol we're almost done with two expose sites and the portal... no progress at all.. keep believing that.. im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
i'm going to leave now

Praise the LORD!  :cheers:

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perhaps you attended a behavior mod facility and that is the reason for your lack of intelligence and intellect

 :timeout:  Way to insult almost everyone who posts here!


Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
rediculous

It's "ridiculous"... and you were making fun of my 'intelligence and intellect?'  :roflmao:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
:wall:
 
Kev, I would highly recommend against a career in diplomacy.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 02:30:50 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"

lol we're almost done with two expose sites and the portal... no progress at all.. keep believing that.. im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you? hmmm ex-referral agent granted access but not you? says something doesn't it.


Ex-referral agent, you must be referring to yourself then?  :roflmao:

More websites! just what is needed, why didn't I think of that? There are only dozens of them already... of course that will put the final nail in the coffin of this industry! /sarcasm

Are you recycling the teenhelp.us URL, or did you let that one expire?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: "O. Blanchard"
3. The redesign absolutely cannot be the result of either a) a new agency wanting to put their mark on a client’s most obvious piece of property, or b) a newly appointed executive within the company’s need to put his/her mark on the company’s most obvious piece of property.

I have seen item #3 happen so many times that I’ve grown a little suspicious of anyone recommending a logo change without serious justification. :)

Besides, once you start down that road, it gets slippery fast.

^^^^ props
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: "julie74"
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"

lol we're almost done with two expose sites and the portal... no progress at all.. keep believing that.. im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you? hmmm ex-referral agent granted access but not you? says something doesn't it.


Ex-referral agent, you must be referring to yourself then?  :roflmao:

More websites! just what is needed, why didn't I think of that? There are only dozens of them already... of course that will put the final nail in the coffin of this industry! /sarcasm

Are you recycling the teenhelp.us URL, or did you let that one expire?

julie.  can you contact me via email.  [email protected]
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"

lol we're almost done with two expose sites and the portal... no progress at all.. keep believing that.. im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you? hmmm ex-referral agent granted access but not you? says something doesn't it.

Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
lol we're almost done with two expose sites and the portal... no progress at all.. keep believing that.. im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you?

Last edited by kev (antiWWASP.com) on Today, 20:37, edited 1 time in total.

I wonder why Kevin edited that part out?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: "Isabelle"
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
I wonder why Kevin edited that part out?

I suggested on IM that it was both provocative, not something to be proud of, and .  He agreed.

Look.  I'm not happy about Kev's past but he realized he made a mistake and is no longer referring.  I wouldn't be working with him otherwise on the APALL project and neither would anybody else I know.  Unlike Isabelle, who lied and hid what she was doing, Kev did so openly and, to the best of my knowledge had good intentions, however misguided and however bad the result.  The key here is that he is not doing it anymore.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 03:24:03 PM
i was asked to delete that, but regardless.. i've also been asked to apologize for the miscommunication earlier. i was attacked and provoked and will not be apologizing to the trolls or to julie (same thing), but i do owe the fornits community an apology for not being clearer in what i meant by "guests" in my original post. For you see, in my community, we have trust, no outsiders.. Its a community for people to rely on each other. At antiWWASP, before requiring registration, every guest was a troll... but i quickly eliminated that (unfortunately along with anonymity) for the benefit of teens trying to find comfort in a safe place to share their experiences. i have to keep this short or i will have to force myself to respond to the rest of the attacks to come.. so basically although i believe far more is being contradicted on your end than my own, i will offer the following short apology to anyone willing to accept it:

Fornits, I apologize, for one, for ever believing that putting another kid in my shoes was appropriate. (referring)

Secondly, I wholeheartedly did not mean my original post as an attack, but text is wonderful when it comes to miscommunicating thoughts, ideas, and opinions. I am sorry for this as well, please forgive me.

(this message was coerced by your admin)... lol not the apology though, im very serious about that.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
Half hearted fake apologies for the sake of "unity" make me want to puke.  At least Kevin was honest before, now he's Psy little groupie.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 03:42:05 PM
are you riding the "hater-mobile" today julie, or are your granny pannies wedged too deep?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Covergaard on November 30, 2008, 03:45:13 PM
On behaft of Secret Prisons for Teens:

You can take our advice or don't, but here it is:

I think that each website and the organisation behind them should take their own path using whatever strength they have.

All the website have strengths and weaknesses. We at Spft have learned to live with them. We have tried to suggest that Fornits should moderate. They won't and we respect their decision. But because the Fornits message boards have periods being flooded with spam and trolls and internal wars, we have decided to take another approach in our work than before.

We kicked Fornits Wiki into gear. A couple of months ago we decided to make each edit on our local server first and then let the persons in our group copy it to the wiki's which use our structures. Notice wiki's. That means several. Some public, some in torrents networks hidden. We are not picky and don't care about copyright regarding our contributions. All we ask of websites using our pages are that they don't refer children. We don't care if they only use a part of our database. We acknowledge that a page about a program in Denmark or China don't have a lot of interest for American readers.

This is how we work for the time being:

1) All the volunteers are investigating through their own internet connections.

2) When they post something, they use a VPN connection to a machine here in my house which have two Internet providers active and one in spare. From this machine they access our wiki and let the people responsible for copying to others wikis know that new info are ready. All edits will be made from these three IP-numbers and from a single machine if some wants to backtrace them. Maybe we have people inside the States, maybe not.

The persons responsible for posting to Fornits is Rotsne and Oscar. Wiki Researcher are working with Fican and I to help them through a crisis. Jensp has anti-wwasp, KentD cafety, Paulu Youthright. Communication with Heal-online and Isac are ongoing from case to case whenever we feel that we all can benefit eachother. We also have people watching and posting on conductdiscorders and several other places posing as parents with problems kids and sometime giving anti-program advice and cultural lections in the superior culture in the nordic countries.

Kev: I know that you are trying to give them advices based on good intention. Leave it. This board works in another way. If they want to have these periods of total anarchism, let them have them. After all when they are functioning, they provide valuable information.

What your board is doing is also good. WWASP aka whatevertheycallthemselvesthismonth needs to have your board on their back. I have been thinking of contacting the owner of TBfight in order to offer him or her our help, so they can get the spam out of their board and renew it a little without removing its purpose.

We believe that there should be room for both general boards and targeted boards in the Anti-BM movement. We feel that our purpose is to gather all these small pieces every single board diggs up and exchange them. Here is perhaps your finest role regarding the anti-wwasp - Fornits cooperation. Sharing with an open heart whenever your board diggs up. On the other hand, I urge the Fornits members to do the same whenever they find any information, that could benefit anti-wwasp.

I hope this message clearify what we are doing at Spft. We are not interested in closing doors, but establishing a wide network.

Regards
Secret Prisons for teens
Carsten Overgaard
Founder
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: "julie74"
Half hearted fake apologies for the sake of "unity" make me want to puke.  At least Kevin was honest before, now he's Psy little groupie.

He meant it.  It took a lot of convincing, though.

PS: I appreciate the vote of confidence in my ability to lead Kev around.  Implying Kev was somehow my bitch gave me quite the chuckle.  Truth is he's more or less one of the most stubborn people I know...  Hardly the kind to be lead around.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 03:47:37 PM
Carsten.  Minor request: can you guys focus your researching lazers on Midwest Academy.  Check out the APALL forum (bottom of forum list) for the reason.

Ps: thanks for the kind words in your response and the attempt at mediation.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
what's the point of reading these rediculous guest posts? or why not require registration like the other 90 percent of forums on the internet? you really don't stand to benefit in my opinion from these losers who use this place to fuel their hunger for conflict.. its like an infestation.. your database is full of garbage... clogged and unhealthy garbage, you should purge them. i really figured you for an innovator ginger, someone who sees change as a means for growth... these "stubborn" ideals don't improve your website, on the contrary, I've avoided fornits for so long for that reason alone. I have to choose besides function and form, and should i really have to? why not provide both? you're entitled to do whatever you wish as you own this site and everything inside it, and i'm just stating an opinion so it can be lost in the pile with everyone elses opinions i suppose, but these changes would improve your website's overall look and feel, and make yourself look more appear a bit more "giving" in the process. now i realize you don't care a lot about how others view you, i'm sure you could probably care less. thats not the point, you're the one in control. i would create a forum to steal your traffic in a moderated environment but im only an asshole, not a fucktard. such is the beauty of unmoderated forums, correct? i can do WHATEVER i want... so at this point, what i want is to tear the heart and sole of your webforums out, and steal all the traffic, will these posts also stand aside the rest of the unmoderated content? or will you delete them to benefit yourself while i try to manipulate your audience?

i can live with unmoderated forums when the content of the visitors posts have relevance, but you've unleashed these society rejects with free reign to confront and torment legitimate people with vested interests, without any control. it's alarming. Free Speech is invaluable, but i am going to try to develop a plan to dispose of the people who's sole purpose is "getting a rise" and "fucking with people". i would hate to have to steal your audience, and i'm not threatening you at all, there is just a legitimate need for a larger moderated forum with content you seem to have already accumulated. i'm sure there are several people here more than willing to pack up, move, and be troll-free, does that sound unreasonable?

this is not a personally directed message, i'm writing this to the webmaster and administrator of a website in my genre, so the way i see it, i'm actually just stating my intentions. i also believe your content to be the primary reason for your traffic, its just a shame i have to dig through pounds of bullshit to find the gems, i simply don't have that kind of time. so all-in-all, i'm just asking you to bend in favor of the common good, regardless of personal or emotional beliefs. there is no benefit to me personally here, i just want to see this place be as awesome as it's capable of being.

great job so far by the way, all these years and you're still doing things your way, or the highway, you must be doing something right (tried really hard to be nice here!) lol... again, take it as an attack if you wish, but i'm more just picking your brain to understand why someone so intelligent can't weigh the argument with logic involved... how about this, if there was a way to take out every troll, would you do it?

Are you really that arrogant of a person to think that you can come here, being the newbie and trash Fornits like you are?
Why don't you shut up and go home? BTW, if you really do in fact think that free speech is invaluable then quit calling people whose posts that you do not like societal rejects. It simply proves that you do not value free speech like you claim that you do.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 03:50:56 PM
Quote from: "Covergaard"
If they want to have these periods of total anarchism, let them have them. After all when they are functioning, they provide valuable information.

That's the thing with fornits.  It ebbs and flows... but we don't control that.  Ginger and I believe the posters themselves should be the ones to decide that.  Sometimes it is chaos, and sometimes there are periods of informational prosperity.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 03:52:39 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
are you riding the "hater-mobile" today julie, or are your granny pannies wedged too deep?


How tasteful of you. You built a website to send kids to get paddled by a religious fundamentalist in Mississippi. That makes you either an idiot, or a sell out... take your pick.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"
thanks for offering something besides the usual bullshit ursus. great insight as always, wish everyone behaved themselves over here, then there could be forward motion... i suppose the mistake was in my interpretation of this place.. but psy asked me to not get involved here anymore... so i have to hold my tongue for the benefit of the organizations forming our alliance..

and to whoever posted before about infighting and not being able to get started?

lol we're almost done with two expose sites and the portal... no progress at all.. keep believing that.. im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you?

Kevin,
You are an idiot, clearly.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 04:07:51 PM
Quote
Kevin,
You are an idiot, clearly.too bad i've never had to the opportunity to see the latter psy. can you point me in the right direction?

I know you are but what am I! that's what this amounts to? and yes, idiots are easy to spot, i'll agree with you there.

anyways, i'll just be a voyeur at this point, watching you bring these many of these miserable messages into existence, while claiming this and that, it concerns me little. i'm only here for the people who understand that considerably larger amount of traffic for all of our websites individually, is far better than struggling alone.. on top of that, we can realize our individual goals much faster as a collective of websites.

I'll be nice this time and post from a guarded stance, but you criticize me whenever i show up, is that for personal benefit or a collective effort to keep people down? don't get that part.. i know you're just dying to explain it trolls.. actually i wish you would physically die so i wouldn't have to read the bullshit TROLL POSTS (i was asked to be precise) anymore, but there's as much chance of that happening as winning the lottery.

i wont hold my breath, but i suggest the trolls try to hold their breath forever and see how that turns out.. the few trolls that came out to play today barely got a rise out of me... c'mon guys, the one thing i can count on you for is to create nonsense and to directly or indirectly provoke people... where are the rest of you? there used to be so many more...  :twofinger:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 04:09:12 PM
Quote
How tasteful of you. You built a website to send kids to get paddled by a religious fundamentalist in Mississippi. That makes you either an idiot, or a sell out... take your pick.

sell out obviously... but thanks, i'm done with that now.. anyone ready to move on? no? what a surprise...
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: psy on November 30, 2008, 04:20:40 PM
Look.  I'm gonna go work on the Midwest site.  Y'all want to fight and so on and so forth, go ahead.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: "Kevin of TeenHelp.us, referal agent"
what's the point of reading these rediculous guest posts? or why not require registration like the other 90 percent of forums on the internet? you really don't stand to benefit in my opinion from these losers who use this place to fuel their hunger for conflict.. its like an infestation.. your database is full of garbage... clogged and unhealthy garbage, you should purge them.

 
Quote
i can do WHATEVER i want... so at this point, what i want is to tear the heart and sole of your webforums out, and steal all the traffic, will these posts also stand aside the rest of the unmoderated content? or will you delete them to benefit yourself while i try to manipulate your audience?

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perhaps you attended a behavior mod facility and that is the reason for your lack of intelligence and intellect

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i've seen people suck cock for crack (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4QJG8QMRFs)


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im amazed at how well everyone is getting along, but you wouldnt know that because your a guest, and you're not allowed to view the private forums now are you? hmmm ex-referral agent granted access but not you? says something doesn't it.

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actually i wish you would physically die so i wouldn't have to read the bullshit TROLL POSTS

 :roflmao:  :rofl:  :blabla:  :boycott:  :rasta:  ::unhappy::  ::deadhorse::  ::poke::  :ftard:  :jamin:  :fuckoff:  :twofinger:  :deal:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: kev (antiWWASP.com) on November 30, 2008, 04:28:41 PM
now thats the kind of shit i'm talking about! good one late troll, that one got under my skin a little bit! lol

please try to be here on time the next go around...
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Che Gookin on November 30, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
I'm going to take my cues from ginger on this one. As she seems to have declined to piss false moral outrage all over the forums I will as well.

Sorry.. my give a shit is broke.

Seriously though kevin. Do us all a favor and stop posting on this thread please? We are going to be subjected to months of the same collage of bullshit now as it is. Don't make it any bigger with more quotes.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: "Kevin 'we refer em, Roy paddles em' August"
now thats the kind of shit i'm talking about! good one late troll, that one got under my skin a little bit! lol

please try to be here on time the next go around...

referalagentsayswhat?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Che Gookin on November 30, 2008, 05:42:09 PM
Fuck.. all I want to do is go to bed, but someone has to be trotted out to mumble this shit...

Quote
Here yee.. Here yee....  Go fuc... no.. wrong message..

cough.. cough..

Listen up!

1) Kevin isn't a referral agent.
2) Kevin is supporting this project in a tech role. He speaks for himself and himself alone.
3) Our leaderless collective of instigators and closet porno queens are just that, a leaderless collective of closet porno queens and instigators.
4) Our project is a collaborative effort in which Kevin is playing a vital role as tech goblin.
5) I've called you all worst than Societal rejects so get the hell over it and stow your false moral outrage.

kk.thanxs.bai.

going back to bed now.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
If you all want everyone to get along, stick to posting in your secret forum. I'm sure it's teeming with warm and fuzzy self reassuring fakeness, the sort only group-think can provide. If you want to compromise your opinions and values for the sake of unity, by all means, just don't expect everyone else to join in so enthusiastically.

 :sue:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Che Gookin on November 30, 2008, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: "Group Think"
If you all want everyone to get along, stick to posting in your secret forum. I'm sure it's teeming with warm and fuzzy self reassuring fakeness, the sort only group-think can provide. If you want to compromise your opinions and values for the sake of unity, by all means, just don't expect everyone else to join in so enthusiastically.

 :sue:

Please, keep telling me what my values and opinions ought to be. I enjoy that sort of thing immensely.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2008, 01:20:56 AM
Quote from: "kev (antiWWASP.com)"

I wanted to ask if everyone is satisfied with the large orange "object" (have no clue what that thing is) next to your text logo? Though I realize the decision making aspect ultimately relies on Ginger, I wanted to ask whether everyone besides Ginger is satisfied with your identity as a community (maybe wrong word?)... Perhaps we could sway the nice woman into changing it?


Kev is absolutely right, shut your goddamn filthy holes!  Here's an image to replace that tired old fairy (Not you, Kev):

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Park ... ean01r.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Park/8386/roybean01r.jpg)

You remember the Judge, Kev?

By the way, one registered member of the Fornits community was violated by a Magnolia staffer named Poochie Stringfellow.  Poochie liberally fondled the junk of this young man while he was in the program.  The victim reports that Poochie was a twisted pedophile who enjoyed hiding the towels when the boys of Magnolia were in the showers.  He blew a lot of the young bucks too.

The victim says he was placed in Magnolia because his mom saw your referral and thought you had some credibility as an opponent of abusive RTC's.  The old bitch was wrong, damned wrong.  A young man's junk was fondled by a fruit named "Poochie" because of your referral and you make fun of OUR fairy???  N-word, PLEASE!  Fornits' "orange object" never grabbed a handful of young junk.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: ladilucix on December 01, 2008, 08:01:44 AM
ahhh... I am so.... pleased.

Id like to thank you all for the magnanimous chuckle I have incurred through the following of this thread. I honestly cant fully explain my appreciation of your epic win tonight... you shall forever hold my undying respect and gratitude.

fuck. I still cant stop giggling.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Froderik on December 01, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
It is useless, for you are affected by nothing, having erected an impenetrable armor around yourself. You feel nothing. Unable to understand your situation, you react through thought, which is your ideas and mentations. Reaction is thought.
Title: Got My Love In A Stranglehold, Poochie
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2008, 01:23:07 PM
It's good that people find some levity in this thread, but it ain't no joke when Poochie gets a deathgrip on yer junkets.  And Poochie's hands are always cold as a mother in law's heart.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Femanon4Che on December 01, 2008, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: "My Violated Junk!"
 N-word, PLEASE!  Fornits' "orange object" never grabbed a handful of young junk.

truely EPIC... I bow before your greatness.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
kev,
thanks for posting. your site is great & DOES A LOT OF GOOD. nevermind the bollocks
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Che Gookin on December 07, 2008, 06:46:20 AM
Quote from: "guest"
kev,
thanks for posting. your site is great & DOES A LOT OF GOOD. nevermind the bollocks

What website?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Femanon4Che on December 08, 2008, 03:06:35 AM
AntiWWASP silly pants... did your "give a brain function" break too?...

 :moon:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2008, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: "Femanon4Che"
AntiWWASP silly pants... did your "give a brain function" break too?...

 :moon:

Kevin August is a psycho bitch who dances like he's got Down Syndrome.  He's no different than Sue Scheff:  hates WWASP but wants to get paid for referrals to any other program.  The little puss was bitching about the length of time spent researching programs?  Hey Kev, how much time did you spend researching Magnolia Christian Academy?  Not much you sloppy program loving shit.  The new ANTIWWASP seems to be all about Kevin August.  He's the next Scheff.

"give a brain function"?  Are you mentally feeble?
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2008, 06:25:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzJWQXVxaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzJWQXVxaw)
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Guest on December 09, 2008, 09:14:07 PM
Quote from: "ANTI-KEVIN AUGUST"
Quote from: "Femanon4Che"
AntiWWASP silly pants... did your "give a brain function" break too?...

 :moon:

Kevin August is a psycho bitch who dances like he's got Down Syndrome.  He's no different than Sue Scheff:  hates WWASP but wants to get paid for referrals to any other program.  The little puss was bitching about the length of time spent researching programs?  Hey Kev, how much time did you spend researching Magnolia Christian Academy?  Not much you sloppy program loving shit.  The new ANTIWWASP seems to be all about Kevin August.  He's the next Scheff.

"give a brain function"?  Are you mentally feeble?

Guess who?  It's ZenAgent. You said the exact same thing about CCM, the same word for word in what you've deleted.
Quote from: "ZenAgent"

Yeah...she's a survivor, alright.  Against WWASP, but pro-program, just like Sue Scheff.

Have fun in the new secret forum which will be drama and infighting free by keeping out trolls and low rankers.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Femanon4Che on December 09, 2008, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: "ANTI-KEVIN AUGUST"
"give a brain function"?  Are you mentally feeble?

Indeed I am kind sir.

In fact I must agree wholeheartedly that AntiWWASP.com has now become KevinAugust.com. I think its funny to watch him fall on his face dont you? He has single handedly alienated all the people around him who were willing to help him develop AntiWWASP.com into anything more than just a place where he can bitch about his stay at a panzie program. Some of us were actually abused, and our reason for being here is to spread awareness and do what we can to reduce enrollment into these programs. But Kevin August just wants the power and the glory.... I think its funny that he proclaimed to come to fornits to steal our posters yet he still has all of 2 active members posting on his piece of shit site. LOLOLOL looks like he purged all the trolls and now theres no body left haha.

ps I will buy a beer for anyone who chooses to troll AntiWWASP.com.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Che Gookin on December 09, 2008, 10:25:33 PM
Beer? You speakth the magic word for che.

Troll on.


TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2008, 11:08:11 PM
4 ur own sakes i hope this is a put on. You are a little juvenile with your threats and black/white thinking, yes? I see the new secret forum is keeping the distractions at bay.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: "lottli"
Quote from: "ANTI-KEVIN AUGUST"
Quote from: "Femanon4Che"
AntiWWASP silly pants... did your "give a brain function" break too?...

 :moon:

Kevin August is a psycho bitch who dances like he's got Down Syndrome.  He's no different than Sue Scheff:  hates WWASP but wants to get paid for referrals to any other program.  The little puss was bitching about the length of time spent researching programs?  Hey Kev, how much time did you spend researching Magnolia Christian Academy?  Not much you sloppy program loving shit.  The new ANTIWWASP seems to be all about Kevin August.  He's the next Scheff.

"give a brain function"?  Are you mentally feeble?

Guess who?  It's ZenAgent. You said the exact same thing about CCM, the same word for word in what you've deleted.
Quote from: "ZenAgent"

Yeah...she's a survivor, alright.  Against WWASP, but pro-program, just like Sue Scheff.


Have fun in the new secret forum which will be drama and infighting free by keeping out trolls and low rankers.

I didn't know Zen wrote thaT, and you're quoting me not Zen.  Are you always so sloppy?  Do you hang on zen's every word, or keep  files on various individuals you hate?  Only someone as base as theWho would do that.  Glad you don't know who I am you whining asshole.

Quit trying to figure out who is anonymous.  I thought that was part of your bitching anyway and you're trying to interfer with anonymous posting.    We'll throw you a bone and tell you nobody gives a hurled shit who you are.  That's just my opinion and I'm exercising my right to free speech.  just like you.  It's my right to call you a bitter, jealous jackoff.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Froderik on December 10, 2008, 01:13:16 PM
This is one of the stupidest threads going right now. You assholes should find something better to do with your time...srsly.
(Yeah I know I'm bumping it by commenting...so what, stfu...it's near the top anyway.)
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2008, 08:24:56 PM
Quote from: "Froderik"
This is one of the stupidest threads going right now. You assholes should find something better to do with your time...srsly.
(Yeah I know I'm bumping it by commenting...so what, stfu...it's near the top anyway.)

Maybe we just take insane amounts of pleasure pointing out that kev is an ignorant, egotistical, moronic asshole that lives with his mom and dances like a fairy on camera for attention (poor guy it's probably been a long time since hes had a real vagina, or life). Maybe we think its funny that he trolls Fornits because his forum is an epic failure. Maybe we just cant help but agree with the other people in this thread who are calling him out on his bullshit... and after all we are all free to say so.

I think its only right that SOMEONE put him in his place... have you seen his posts on antiwwasp? Hed fuckin fuck himself if he could, he just tells everyone he is the shit and they all drink the fuckin cool aid. "fearless leader" my ass, Hes just a dumb kid who went power hungry because he figured out how to steal templates... lol not to mention that his "design talent" is about as fake as my girlfriend's tits. You should see his pathetic attempts at graphic design, no wonder he insists on stealing everything he puts online.

Kev can lick my ass after I shit. Im just afraid he'd enjoy it.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
Quote from: "ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH"
Quote from: "Froderik"
This is one of the stupidest threads going right now. You assholes should find something better to do with your time...srsly.
(Yeah I know I'm bumping it by commenting...so what, stfu...it's near the top anyway.)

Maybe we just take insane amounts of pleasure pointing out that kev is an ignorant, egotistical, moronic asshole that lives with his mom and dances like a fairy on camera for attention (poor guy it's probably been a long time since hes had a real vagina, or life). Maybe we think its funny that he trolls Fornits because his forum is an epic failure. Maybe we just cant help but agree with the other people in this thread who are calling him out on his bullshit... and after all we are all free to say so.

I think its only right that SOMEONE put him in his place... have you seen his posts on antiwwasp? Hed fuckin fuck himself if he could, he just tells everyone he is the shit and they all drink the fuckin cool aid. "fearless leader" my ass, Hes just a dumb kid who went power hungry because he figured out how to steal templates... lol not to mention that his "design talent" is about as fake as my girlfriend's tits. You should see his pathetic attempts at graphic design, no wonder he insists on stealing everything he puts online.

Kev can lick my ass after I shit. Im just afraid he'd enjoy it.

U don't know it (because you are dumb to realize how you come across)  but people who read your posts walk away laughing at you.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2008, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: "obvious pointer"
Quote from: "ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH"
Quote from: "Froderik"
This is one of the stupidest threads going right now. You assholes should find something better to do with your time...srsly.
(Yeah I know I'm bumping it by commenting...so what, stfu...it's near the top anyway.)

Maybe we just take insane amounts of pleasure pointing out that kev is an ignorant, egotistical, moronic asshole that lives with his mom and dances like a fairy on camera for attention (poor guy it's probably been a long time since hes had a real vagina, or life). Maybe we think its funny that he trolls Fornits because his forum is an epic failure. Maybe we just cant help but agree with the other people in this thread who are calling him out on his bullshit... and after all we are all free to say so.

I think its only right that SOMEONE put him in his place... have you seen his posts on antiwwasp? Hed fuckin fuck himself if he could, he just tells everyone he is the shit and they all drink the fuckin cool aid. "fearless leader" my ass, Hes just a dumb kid who went power hungry because he figured out how to steal templates... lol not to mention that his "design talent" is about as fake as my girlfriend's tits. You should see his pathetic attempts at graphic design, no wonder he insists on stealing everything he puts online.

Kev can lick my ass after I shit. Im just afraid he'd enjoy it.

U don't know it (because you are dumb to realize how you come across)  but people who read your posts walk away laughing at you.

Great. I dont think that anyone who reads this forum gives two shits about me, and I could obviously care less about them. If I was looking for the approval I would be posting on antiwwasp its obviously easy to come by over there. Go back under your bridge you troll.
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2008, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: "obvious pointer"
U don't know it (because you are dumb to realize how you come across)  but people who read your posts walk away laughing at you.


It's funny when someone who can't write a coherent sentence calls another person dumb.

 :rofl:  ::poke::  :seg:
Title: Re: Have you considered...?
Post by: personalvpn on February 02, 2012, 04:55:35 PM
Hi there! My name is Sarah and I am a newbie here. Just want to ask about Personal VPNs. Does anyone in here have any experience having Personal VPNs? Any reviews about a Personal VPN -what does it do?
 :on phone: