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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / What up "G"
« on: December 01, 2001, 07:54:40 PM »
Just wanted to keep this subject near the top , in case any of my old friends cruise by. "Love ya's".........JOEY
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / MI. Straight.
« on: December 01, 2001, 05:52:10 AM »
Hey Gilly. I was there also when you were. Aug.86' Dec. 87'. My real name is Joe Pechette. Do you have last names of any of the people you mentioned? I'm on Yahoo mess. too. There I'm "Joey95685". Let's yak. Have you checked out Straight Inc. alumni (yahoo groups) yet? There's like 120 members. Later.............Joey
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Missed ya
« on: November 01, 2001, 06:08:16 AM »
Missed ya by a few months. I got there in Aug. 86' We probably knew some of the same people and went through similar hells. Bet I hated some of the same A. S. S. holes you did. LOL.
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / welcome
« on: November 02, 2001, 01:01:33 AM »
Hey whats up glass? When did you split MI.? I was there in 86'. I knew a bunch of the folks who came up from Cinncy. There is another web site for EX-straightlings that I think you might like...Yahoo groups.straight Inc. alumni Check it out...... 2-dogs
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Plymouth P.O.W.
« on: September 01, 2001, 05:46:18 AM »
Hey Angie. Did we know each other? I was in the Ply. MI.straight 86"-87". Joe Pechette is my name. I can't place your face. We surely knew the same people.
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / alumni
« on: August 02, 2001, 01:00:06 AM »
I checked that site. It had an Straight Inc. alumni link that went no where.
Where else can I look for my People? Any ideas?
Where else can I look for my People? Any ideas?
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: The "love-ya's" need to pick up! Ply, MI. 86'-87'
« on: August 01, 2001, 03:59:05 PM »
How in the hell can I find all the people I sent freindship letters to? ...And all those that I reported. I miss all you bastards. Lets have a song! Anyone know me.... Joe Pechette
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Will the nightmare end?
« on: August 01, 2001, 03:21:07 PM »
86'-87'. I was there. I grew up in Plymouth. I just found this site. I was trying to find people I new there, anyone ,everyone. Just someone who realy knows. Do you know me? Joe Pechette
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Whine whine whine
« on: December 02, 2001, 01:53:15 AM »
Fair enough
I still think I have a pretty good point or two , but fair enough my friends.
While we are on the subject , what do you say to parents who's kids are doing things that could put the parents in jail or have dealers kicking in thier doors? The S.H.I.T. we went through was wrong without a doubt , but what do you do? I mean if you are a screwed-up parent who doesn't understand what unconditional love is (like Pablo)? I hate that my parents couldn't help me even more than what happened to me in straight.
P.S. thanks for keeping it civil G. & others.....Dogs
I still think I have a pretty good point or two , but fair enough my friends.
While we are on the subject , what do you say to parents who's kids are doing things that could put the parents in jail or have dealers kicking in thier doors? The S.H.I.T. we went through was wrong without a doubt , but what do you do? I mean if you are a screwed-up parent who doesn't understand what unconditional love is (like Pablo)? I hate that my parents couldn't help me even more than what happened to me in straight.
P.S. thanks for keeping it civil G. & others.....Dogs
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Whine whine whine
« on: December 01, 2001, 04:28:46 PM »
K D
Hey jaded, Please read what I wrote again. maybe a few times. I think you misunderstood me. Actually you confirmed one point.
I wasted so much of my life already. I'm not going to do anything that is like bumping my head against a wall. All I'm saying is that we both know that none of you will ever be heard in a legitimate way. There's already been too much one-sided slamming. It has taken the seriousness out of what is going on. Why not do something actively possitive like talking to parents. Hell why not make a flyer that says: Is your kid out of control? on drugs? call me . I might be able to help. I've gone to the school in my town and talked to the counselors about being there if they needed any insight or if the parents needed someone to talk to.
You need not "get over" anything if you don't want to. I talk about how bad it was all the time , but I reserve my rants for those who really understand , those who were there. Parents that are scared are looking for answer not more questions. I don't pretend to know the answers. I know Straight or anything like it is WRONG WRONG WRONG but spend all your time spouting this and see how much it helps anything. All of you are so full of energy to do something. Well do something that actually has results.
Please do assume that I would ever get behind Bush. With my first amendment in mind of course: I wish someone would throw that A.S.S.H.O.L.E. out of my country! .....DOGS
Hey jaded, Please read what I wrote again. maybe a few times. I think you misunderstood me. Actually you confirmed one point.
I wasted so much of my life already. I'm not going to do anything that is like bumping my head against a wall. All I'm saying is that we both know that none of you will ever be heard in a legitimate way. There's already been too much one-sided slamming. It has taken the seriousness out of what is going on. Why not do something actively possitive like talking to parents. Hell why not make a flyer that says: Is your kid out of control? on drugs? call me . I might be able to help. I've gone to the school in my town and talked to the counselors about being there if they needed any insight or if the parents needed someone to talk to.
You need not "get over" anything if you don't want to. I talk about how bad it was all the time , but I reserve my rants for those who really understand , those who were there. Parents that are scared are looking for answer not more questions. I don't pretend to know the answers. I know Straight or anything like it is WRONG WRONG WRONG but spend all your time spouting this and see how much it helps anything. All of you are so full of energy to do something. Well do something that actually has results.
Please do assume that I would ever get behind Bush. With my first amendment in mind of course: I wish someone would throw that A.S.S.H.O.L.E. out of my country! .....DOGS
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Whine whine whine
« on: December 01, 2001, 05:22:57 PM »
Whlie I'm at it.
Question: Do you think that it is possible that an ex-staff member from a "Straight-like" program could go somewhere else with the intention of taking the good stuff he learned(however small the amount) , and starting a new program with none of the abuse's that he/she themself knows don't really work? I know I could. With all the pissing and moaning about how it has all got to stop(myself included) We seem to forget that there are millions of parents out there who have no idea what-so-ever to do with their ,out of control kids. Maybe if there was a place that was worthy of supporting , we could all get behind them and overshadow the "the mind rape mills". Maybe kill two birds. Makes more sense to me than just spinning my wheels. Then again I'm not the kind of person who "likes" being angry". Once I was , and I know how confortably familiar anger can be but I've found that I don't have to be pissed-off to have conviction....DOGS
Question: Do you think that it is possible that an ex-staff member from a "Straight-like" program could go somewhere else with the intention of taking the good stuff he learned(however small the amount) , and starting a new program with none of the abuse's that he/she themself knows don't really work? I know I could. With all the pissing and moaning about how it has all got to stop(myself included) We seem to forget that there are millions of parents out there who have no idea what-so-ever to do with their ,out of control kids. Maybe if there was a place that was worthy of supporting , we could all get behind them and overshadow the "the mind rape mills". Maybe kill two birds. Makes more sense to me than just spinning my wheels. Then again I'm not the kind of person who "likes" being angry". Once I was , and I know how confortably familiar anger can be but I've found that I don't have to be pissed-off to have conviction....DOGS
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Whine whine whine
« on: December 01, 2001, 05:05:07 PM »
Can't let it go?
If these places all changed and started doing things the "right" way (although I don't know what that would be) All the folks who are still dragging themselves through the "victim" excuse for not living up to their potential , would lose their "right" to fight. And for those who have made it their lives mission to stop what happened to them, would be lost. So I say, let em' rant , it gives them something to do.
And before y'all start "motivating" at me you should know that I believe that your pain is valid , But I also know that it is possible to overcome if you really want it bad enough....Dogs
If these places all changed and started doing things the "right" way (although I don't know what that would be) All the folks who are still dragging themselves through the "victim" excuse for not living up to their potential , would lose their "right" to fight. And for those who have made it their lives mission to stop what happened to them, would be lost. So I say, let em' rant , it gives them something to do.
And before y'all start "motivating" at me you should know that I believe that your pain is valid , But I also know that it is possible to overcome if you really want it bad enough....Dogs
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Whine whine whine
« on: December 01, 2001, 04:18:05 PM »
Must be different
I keep hearing about how aarc wasn't so bad , or that it was different. That has led me to believe that it must have been different , because you don't find anyone else defending the other places at all. I know for certain that I would be dead or jailed if I wasn't in Straight when I was. I graduated with honors , Yet I would never defend them. For years after , I would have been better off dead, and everyone else around me then would have had it better if I were dead. Working that @#%$ out of my head took everything I had and left me exhausted. I wish I would have ended up in any other place than Straight even your aarc. But you all ought to know that people who are saying all this @#%$ about "mind rape mills" have a valid reason to do so. Although I think it would better serve thier purpose to stick to what they know personally instead of blanketing everyone elses experience with thier own. Read some stuff on Straight before you start calling folks whiners. .......Dogs
I keep hearing about how aarc wasn't so bad , or that it was different. That has led me to believe that it must have been different , because you don't find anyone else defending the other places at all. I know for certain that I would be dead or jailed if I wasn't in Straight when I was. I graduated with honors , Yet I would never defend them. For years after , I would have been better off dead, and everyone else around me then would have had it better if I were dead. Working that @#%$ out of my head took everything I had and left me exhausted. I wish I would have ended up in any other place than Straight even your aarc. But you all ought to know that people who are saying all this @#%$ about "mind rape mills" have a valid reason to do so. Although I think it would better serve thier purpose to stick to what they know personally instead of blanketing everyone elses experience with thier own. Read some stuff on Straight before you start calling folks whiners. .......Dogs
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Censorship
« on: December 01, 2001, 06:02:19 AM »
!!!!
F.U.C.K.E.N. A WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH CONTROL IN OUR LIVES TO LAST FOR MOTHER F.U.C.K.E.N. EVER.
F.U.C.K.E.N. A WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH CONTROL IN OUR LIVES TO LAST FOR MOTHER F.U.C.K.E.N. EVER.
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / How To Help A Kid These Days
« on: November 01, 2001, 02:20:42 PM »
What to tell em'
I seriously hope, no one ever asks me for help with their kid on drugs. It's like asking "why are we here?". All I can say is , and this is asuming you 've been there yourself, go talk to the kid yourself alone where he feels comfrotable saying whatever is on his mind and respond to him with your own experience. If you've been there ,then you will find the words.......2-dogs
I seriously hope, no one ever asks me for help with their kid on drugs. It's like asking "why are we here?". All I can say is , and this is asuming you 've been there yourself, go talk to the kid yourself alone where he feels comfrotable saying whatever is on his mind and respond to him with your own experience. If you've been there ,then you will find the words.......2-dogs
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