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Title: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 07, 2012, 07:38:10 PM
We finally did a thorough check on this so called site in Argentina and we found out it is all bullshit. There is no Elan program nor is there a Juan Ferreira. This was a creation by Wayne and his buddies to drum up conversation and bring attention to Wayne (or whoever he is). Doubt what I am saying ask Juan Ferreira to send us a You Tube video showing us the current building layout, employess, resiedents, maybe group simulations with real residents and a personal orientation with a close up of Juan Ferreira walking around and describing everything I just wrote about.

Wayne unless you can do this your story about Juan Ferreira, is bullshit. You brought this guy up and you keep promoting him. Shit you even wanted to go in on a program with him, where Elan used to be in Poland Springs.
Now are you going to lie that you never told Danny that?

Oh, I thought you told us you were leaving. I guess your inability to stop posting under your fake user names has stimulated you enough to post as Wayne again.
The user names I(Ruaraidh) am writing about are the ones you use to write about Danny's sister Diane Drzata. Now, who else would know Diane, Wayne?
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Horatio. on February 07, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
Wayne is Juan Ferreria
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 07, 2012, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: "Horatio."
Wayne is Juan Ferreria


Waynooooo is Rodrigooooooo!!!
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Muppeteer on February 08, 2012, 02:12:47 PM
The program in Argentina is very real. Programa Ibicuy. So is Ferriera.

Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'

Doesn't get realer than that.

 :soapbox:
Title: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ursus on February 08, 2012, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
The program in Argentina is very real. Programa Ibicuy. So is Ferriera.

Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'

Doesn't get realer than that.

 :soapbox:
Yep. Moreover, people have been posting about it here since 2007, possibly even earlier. See:

Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 02:49:18 PM
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
The program in Argentina is very real. Programa Ibicuy. So is Ferriera.

Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'

Doesn't get realer than that.

 :soapbox:
Yep. Moreover, people have been posting about it here since 2007, possibly even earlier. See:

  • Argentina's Elan. Anyone recognize the tree?
    viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21275 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21275)
  • Program in Argentina?
    viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24551 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24551)


We are not disputing that there are not programs in Argentina or for that matter there isn't a Ibicuy. The Tree symbol is what caught everyone's attention because it looked like Elans tree. If you check out the links from 2007 none of them indicate in any way that this is an Elan clone. But if you go to the links on the Elan facebook sites they are set up differently, which is weird. We contacted this place in Argentina and guess what. Call them if you doubt what I am going to say. There is no Juan Ferreira that went to Elan that owns or works for the program linked. No one even knows who this guy is. You can easily check it all out. Unless we were mislead or lied to, there is no Elan connection.
We had a person from Uruguay call for us.
This all we are saying.
Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Muppeteer on February 08, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
We are not disputing that there are not programs in Argentina or for that matter there isn't a Ibicuy. The Tree symbol is what caught everyone's attention because it looked like Elans tree. If you check out the links from 2007 none of them indicate in any way that this is an Elan clone. But if you go to the links on the Elan facebook sites they are set up differently, which is weird. We contacted this place in Argentina and guess what. Call them if you doubt what I am going to say. There is no Juan Ferreira that went to Elan that owns or works for the program linked. No one even knows who this guy is. You can easily check it all out. Unless we were mislead or lied to, there is no Elan connection.
We had a person from Uruguay call for us.
This all we are saying.

Watch the videos on Youtube and tell me that isn't Elan, lock, stock, and barrel. I don't even speak enough Spanish to understand all the dialogue and shouting, but the visuals alone are enough.

Juan is real too. He has a lovely blonde wife who looks to be about half his age. I wonder if maybe he met her in the program.
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Post by: nunez on February 08, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
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Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
We are not disputing that there are not programs in Argentina or for that matter there isn't a Ibicuy. The Tree symbol is what caught everyone's attention because it looked like Elans tree. If you check out the links from 2007 none of them indicate in any way that this is an Elan clone. But if you go to the links on the Elan facebook sites they are set up differently, which is weird. We contacted this place in Argentina and guess what. Call them if you doubt what I am going to say. There is no Juan Ferreira that went to Elan that owns or works for the program linked. No one even knows who this guy is. You can easily check it all out. Unless we were mislead or lied to, there is no Elan connection.
We had a person from Uruguay call for us.
This all we are saying.

Watch the videos on Youtube and tell me that isn't Elan, lock, stock, and barrel. I don't even speak enough Spanish to understand all the dialogue and shouting, but the visuals alone are enough.

Juan is real too. He has a lovely blonde wife who looks to be about half his age. I wonder if maybe he met her in the program.

Keep talking shit Wayne. We are not saying it is not a program. But until you have this guy on YOU TUBE, VIDEO or whatever saying this is a extension or clone of Elan I'll call BULLSHIT!!!
You said the guy who owns this program in Argentina was at Elan. You Wayne (Muppet Whore) made this up along with the name Juan. Was this after you and Rodrigo hooked up. He works at
Microsoft so this explains the computer savvy. You don't surly have it, Wanye.
We want irrefutable proof.
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Muppeteer on February 08, 2012, 04:36:14 PM
Sorry, hon. I'm not Wayne. I'm a victim of the 1980's program. Don't give a shit about Wayne or Danny.
Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ursus on February 08, 2012, 09:16:36 PM
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
The program in Argentina is very real. Programa Ibicuy. So is Ferriera.

Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'

Doesn't get realer than that.

 :soapbox:
Yep. Moreover, people have been posting about it here since 2007, possibly even earlier. See:

  • Argentina's Elan. Anyone recognize the tree?
    viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21275 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21275)
  • Program in Argentina?
    viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24551 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24551)
We are not disputing that there are not programs in Argentina or for that matter there isn't a Ibicuy. The Tree symbol is what caught everyone's attention because it looked like Elans tree. If you check out the links from 2007 none of them indicate in any way that this is an Elan clone. But if you go to the links on the Elan facebook sites they are set up differently, which is weird. We contacted this place in Argentina and guess what. Call them if you doubt what I am going to say. There is no Juan Ferreira that went to Elan that owns or works for the program linked. No one even knows who this guy is. You can easily check it all out. Unless we were mislead or lied to, there is no Elan connection.
We had a person from Uruguay call for us.
This all we are saying.
Watch the videos on Youtube and tell me that isn't Elan, lock, stock, and barrel. I don't even speak enough Spanish to understand all the dialogue and shouting, but the visuals alone are enough.

Juan is real too. He has a lovely blonde wife who looks to be about half his age. I wonder if maybe he met her in the program.
Keep talking shit Wayne. We are not saying it is not a program. But until you have this guy on YOU TUBE, VIDEO or whatever saying this is a extension or clone of Elan I'll call BULLSHIT!!!
You said the guy who owns this program in Argentina was at Elan. You Wayne (Muppet Whore) made this up along with the name Juan. Was this after you and Rodrigo hooked up. He works at
Microsoft so this explains the computer savvy. You don't surly have it, Wanye.
We want irrefutable proof.
Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...
Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
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Ursus wrote:
Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...


Ursus, here is this infamous Juan Ferreira supposedly posting on this Elan facebook site, "Elan Saved My Life"  http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/). I can not copy and paste anything from this site. The owner has asked for people not to. She is a friend of Danny's so I will respect that. Wayne is posting this garbage there because he knows we can't repost here.
I understand "ibicuy" is a program Ursus and I understand the owners try to hide but we aren't talking about that here. Once you read the nonsense posted on this site from Wayne (juan) then you will get it.
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Horatio. on February 08, 2012, 10:31:09 PM
Dude's wife is a piece of ass
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: none-ya. on February 08, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
Quote from: "Horatio."
Dude's wife is a piece of ass
Real classy
Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ursus on February 08, 2012, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
Quote from: "Ursus"
Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...
Ursus, here is this infamous Juan Ferreira supposedly posting on this Elan facebook site, "Elan Saved My Life"  http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/). I can not copy and paste anything from this site. The owner has asked for people not to. She is a friend of Danny's so I will respect that. Wayne is posting this garbage there because he knows we can't repost here.
I understand "ibicuy" is a program Ursus and I understand the owners try to hide but we aren't talking about that here. Once you read the nonsense posted on this site from Wayne (juan) then you will get it.
"Ruaraidh," I can't access Facebook right now, but I'd say that ... if Juan Ferreira is the same fellow who is interviewed wearing a yellow alligator shirt in the two YouTube clips I'm about to post, it is highly improbable that he would deign to post on Facebook. The person whom you believe to be Ferreira is quite possibly yet another sock puppet utilized by your dear friend and infamy-maker.
Title: YouTube clip: "drogas Programa Ibicuy"
Post by: Ursus on February 08, 2012, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'
There are two clips from YouTube user denunciaibicuy, both uploaded on Aug 20, 2011, which may be of interest to folks on fornits...

I watched these with the volume turned off, to better pick up on body language. Some select and miscellaneous comments (of mine) follow the link (not to be construed as anything approaching a "review").

Here's the first clip:

drogas Programa Ibicuy (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a8poNHmXEvs)

This 5:52 clip starts out with the title "reunion matutina" (which translates into "morning meeting"). The guy sitting in the last row right under the "S" (on a poster on the wall behind), reading and referring to his clipboard, is staff or highly ranked resident.

Btw, there's an awful lot of referring to clipboards in this program, by what appear to be older residents.

This woman here gets interviewed in both clips. Although it may not be clear from this pic, she's definitely not a resident. Somehow, I get the feeling that she has greater than average ideological ties with this place, perhaps even with its founding.

(http://http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/a8poNHmXEvs/3.jpg)[/list]

A young woman, clearly a resident, is shown wearing a sign @ ~2:15 (full view of sign at 2:38 (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a8poNHmXEvs#t=158s)), which reads (emphasis as per original):

POR FAVOR PREGUNTENIE (sp?)
POR QUE SOY TAN
IRRESPONSABLE Y ME
EQUIVOCO TANTO CON EL
CONTEO
[/list]
A Google translation of the above:

PLEASE PREGUNTENIE
WHY I AM SO
IRRESPONSIBLE AND ME
WITH MUCH MISTAKEN
COUNT[/list]

A resident gets led into an office (by another resident) for a chewing out by three staff/older residents @ ~5:16. The middle one looks like he is definitely staff, and he is a screamer from the looks of it. The guy that mouths off next looks like he's an older or higher ranked resident. Earlier in that scene he looked pretty unsure of himself, but once it was his turn, he lit into the confrontation like he was born for the job.

The resident who is the object of their ire is wearing some kind of eye-wear fashioned from what looks to be aluminum foil. I can't be totally sure, but it also looks like she has extra clothing stuffed under her shirt and she is carrying unnecessary items. I kinda get the impression of a metaphor along the lines of "carrying around excess personal baggage" and "looking at life unrealistically." Strictly my impression; I could easily be misinterpreting or reading into things...
Title: Re: Programa IBICUY
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
Quote from: "Ursus"
Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...
Ursus, here is this infamous Juan Ferreira supposedly posting on this Elan facebook site, "Elan Saved My Life"  http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/). I can not copy and paste anything from this site. The owner has asked for people not to. She is a friend of Danny's so I will respect that. Wayne is posting this garbage there because he knows we can't repost here.
I understand "ibicuy" is a program Ursus and I understand the owners try to hide but we aren't talking about that here. Once you read the nonsense posted on this site from Wayne (juan) then you will get it.
"Ruaraidh," I can't access Facebook right now, but I'd say that ... if Juan Ferreira is the same fellow who is interviewed wearing a yellow alligator shirt in the two YouTube clips I'm about to post, it is highly improbable that he would deign to post on Facebook. The person whom you believe to be Ferreira is quite possibly yet another sock puppet utilized by your dear friend and infamy-maker.

One never knows. But a good hunch.
Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Post by: Muppeteer on February 08, 2012, 11:21:14 PM
They certainly look like they could be the same guy to me <THAT IS, Juan on FB and the GUY in the yellow shirt in the vids, not Wayne and Juan>, based on nothing more than a FB profile picture and the yellow shirt guy in the vids. I'll grab a translator tomorrow and see if he drops his name, I don't speak Spanish so I wouldn't necessarily catch it if he did.

Nevertheless, if you've lived it you know that Ibicuy appears to be an Elan clone. Headcounts, signs, costume's VR's, morning meeting, service crews, etc. Yeeesh.
Title: Comments: "drogas Programa Ibicuy"
Post by: Ursus on February 08, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Comments (http://http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=a8poNHmXEvs) on the above YouTube clip, "drogas Programa Ibicuy (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39025&p=412853#p412853)" (along with crude Google translations):


provincianesca · 5 months ago
@provincianesca (http://http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=provincianesca) No se tiene en cuenta si uno es capaz de soportar toda esa verdugueada y gritos y golpes durante 18? meses lo que el gordo puto copio a su manera de Colorado repito no se quien es esa mina parecen zombies que repiten cosas que ya me sonaron mentira en 1989 zapata me llamo gordo vigilante drogon fumon pagale al municipio todo lo que debes y t}deja de robarle la señal a direct tv gordo sos un ser despreciable en el amplio espectro que esto abarca ponelo a dar cc a mario el cocinero.[/list]
@ provincianesca not taken into account if one is able to withstand all that yelling and hitting verdugueada and for 18 months what the big fucking rip his way to Colorado again who is not that mine seem zombies repeating things that I lie rang in 1989 called me fat caliper guard Drogon Fumon Pay the municipality all you need t} fails to steal direct tv signal you are a negligible fat in the broad spectrum that encompasses this ponelo to give the chef mario cc.[/list]
provincianesca · 5 months ago
Poor kids, this is stealing from fat Ferreyra 1986 with the farce that does not respect the human rights of anyone, not rehabilitate anyone, you just file your head as long as you or your parents to social or mine pagar.Esta resite the same speech 1986 and those who are hospitalized recited poor, which is that people suck? the rings to the T & C putean you all the corner if you negas to cooperate in their masquerade sadistic HORNED AND FAT YOU LEAVE NEGATIVE INCIDENT SOS RE DRAW[/list]
mnmjrg10 · 5 months ago
I admit i was there, now they are paying for all q been doing for years, are for shit, and they missed many kids, and have no nurse to deal with emergencies, steal and play with the feelings of families, john is still a Drogon has rehabiltacion center and walk in anyone, will pay for everything q have done to people ... john q and all employees have, are all crap[/list]
pablovortixe · 4 months ago
Mommy, how disgusting.

Looks like a show realiti fourth.

Psychopaths have outgrown.

They can be as contemptible to put a loved one in a place like this ...[/list]
provincianesca · 3 months ago
you follow the signs and shouting and all of 1986 parafernaria THIEF THE SON OF WHORES FERREYRA whore of a mother MURDERER![/list]


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Title: Re: YouTube clip: "drogas Programa Ibicuy"
Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 11:46:19 PM
Quote from: "Ursus"
Quote from: "Muppeteer"
Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'
There are two clips from YouTube user denunciaibicuy, both uploaded on Aug 20, 2011, which may be of interest to folks on fornits...

I watched these with the volume turned off, to better pick up on body language. Some select and miscellaneous comments (of mine) follow the link (not to be construed as anything approaching a "review").

Here's the first clip:

drogas Programa Ibicuy (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a8poNHmXEvs)

This 5:52 clip starts out with the title "reunion matutina" (which translates into "morning meeting"). The guy sitting in the last row right under the "S" (on a poster on the wall behind), reading and referring to his clipboard, is staff or highly ranked resident.

Btw, there's an awful lot of referring to clipboards in this program, by what appear to be older residents.

This woman here gets interviewed in both clips. Although it may not be clear from this pic, she's definitely not a resident. Somehow, I get the feeling that she has greater than average ideological ties with this place, perhaps even with its founding.

    (http://http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/a8poNHmXEvs/3.jpg)[/list]

    A young woman, clearly a resident, is shown wearing a sign @ ~2:15 (full view of sign at 2:36), which reads (emphasis as per original):

      POR FAVOR PREGUNTENIE (sp?)
      POR QUE SOY TAN
      IRRESPONSABLE Y ME
      EQUIVOCO TANTO CON EL
      CONTEO
      [/list]
      A Google translation of the above:

        PLEASE PREGUNTENIE
        WHY I AM SO
        IRRESPONSIBLE AND ME
        WITH MUCH MISTAKEN
        COUNT[/list]

        A resident gets led into an office (by another resident) for a chewing out by three staff/older residents @ ~5:16. The middle one looks like he is definitely staff, and he is a screamer from the looks of it. The guy that mouths off next looks like he's an older or higher ranked resident. Earlier in that scene he looked pretty unsure of himself, but once it was his turn, he lit into the confrontation like he was born for the job.

        The resident who is the object of their ire is wearing some kind of eye-wear fashioned from what looks to be aluminum foil. I can't be totally sure, but it also looks like she has extra clothing stuffed under her shirt and she is carrying unnecessary items. I kinda get the impression of a metaphor along the lines of "carrying around excess personal baggage" and "looking at life unrealistically." Strictly my impression; I could easily be misinterpreting or reading into things...

        They got the avatar right for Juan. The man in the yellow shirt is the same man being used as the avatar on the Elan site. Ok so we are 5% of the way there. Some one got a pic and posted it with a name, Juan Ferreira. Is the name of the person with the yellow polo shirt on in the You Tube video, Juan Ferreira. If that answer is yes. Then we have to find out if in fact the real Juan Ferreira went to Elan and copied Elan's methods as stated.
        Elan is not the only program that uses haircuts (being screamed at for a infraction by staff, senior residents and your peers) the adult program Daytop used it, Synanon, Marathon House and the Third Nail. This information of course came from some of Danny's experiences and also my studies and research.
        Why would a owner from this program want to have anything to do with Elan in America. I am sure most of the residents at this program are being paid for by there parents. Many are coming from Brazil (hence the Portuguese language option)   which is flush with cash, their economy is booming. No I am sorry this guy is going to stay far away from Maine (Elan) and their very nasty sick alum.
        Wayne may be trying to take him down by fake association tactics or he was trying to see what would fall out of the tree (pun intended) if he shook it hard enough. Example: posting his picture to see if the guy would have responded in indignation. Well he isn't biting.
        But after I say all of that, what we do have is Wayne's words as of 6 months ago, saying he talked with the guy and he said he went to Elan and wanted to re-open Elan in Maine. Wayne was seeking to see if the guy would team up with him.
        I realized then Wayne was full of shit and had never talked with him. Who in hell would team up with this crazy abusive whackjob.
        "Hey Juan", I wrote a memoir crucifying Elan but hey your program looks good. Money Money Money Waynooooo!!!!
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Ursus on February 08, 2012, 11:49:29 PM
        Quote from: "Muppeteer"
        They certainly look like they could be the same guy to me <THAT IS, Juan on FB and the GUY in the yellow shirt in the vids, not Wayne and Juan>, based on nothing more than a FB profile picture and the yellow shirt guy in the vids. I'll grab a translator tomorrow and see if he drops his name, I don't speak Spanish so I wouldn't necessarily catch it if he did.

        Nevertheless, if you've lived it you know that Ibicuy appears to be an Elan clone. Headcounts, signs, costume's VR's, morning meeting, service crews, etc. Yeeesh.
        The FB profile and pic could have been concocted by anyone. Just sayin'... (although I could be wrong!).

        And the signs and the costumes are not unique to Elan. We even had them at Hyde in the early/mid 1970s (albeit less pervasively; Hyde prefers to target and ostracize  select individuals as a means of controlling the many).

        The prolific use of clipboards really struck me, however.
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 11:55:22 PM
        Quote from: "Muppeteer"
        They certainly look like they could be the same guy to me <THAT IS, Juan on FB and the GUY in the yellow shirt in the vids, not Wayne and Juan>, based on nothing more than a FB profile picture and the yellow shirt guy in the vids. I'll grab a translator tomorrow and see if he drops his name, I don't speak Spanish so I wouldn't necessarily catch it if he did.

        Nevertheless, if you've lived it you know that Ibicuy appears to be an Elan clone. Headcounts, signs, costume's VR's, morning meeting, service crews, etc. Yeeesh.


        Whoa lets not loose are focus here. All I am saying is the person posting on facebook is not the real guy in that is in that yellow polo shirt. Muppet they are the same you are right. But is the guy actually for real posting on that facebook site. I say no way. It is bullshit.
        I am also saying we asked and they say they did not take there program from Elan. Call the program for christ sake, get a spanish speaking person and ask them your questions. They are actually nice people.
        I will say this I will not be responsible if we were mislead or lied to.
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Ruaraidh on February 08, 2012, 11:57:55 PM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "Muppeteer"
        They certainly look like they could be the same guy to me <THAT IS, Juan on FB and the GUY in the yellow shirt in the vids, not Wayne and Juan>, based on nothing more than a FB profile picture and the yellow shirt guy in the vids. I'll grab a translator tomorrow and see if he drops his name, I don't speak Spanish so I wouldn't necessarily catch it if he did.

        Nevertheless, if you've lived it you know that Ibicuy appears to be an Elan clone. Headcounts, signs, costume's VR's, morning meeting, service crews, etc. Yeeesh.
        The FB profile and pic could have been concocted by anyone. Just sayin'... (although I could be wrong!).

        And the signs and the costumes are not unique to Elan. We even had them at Hyde in the early/mid 1970s (albeit less pervasively; Hyde prefers to target and ostracize  select individuals as a means of controlling the many).

        The prolific use of clipboards really struck me, however.

        The clip boards. That came from Synanon, Daytop , Marathon House and Elan. Expediters used to run around making head counts every 15 mins.
        I am not going to lie from everything I have read and heard it resembles Elan.
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Muppeteer on February 09, 2012, 12:07:05 AM
        I think I'll be able to make up my mind for sure once I have a human translation of the vids.

        There were screen caps of his comments floating around which Wayne had posted....I believe he posted them in full context. You may have more information, i recognize that Rud....whatever your name is.

        Once again, not defending Wayne...don't care.

        But when you pull together a social media profile for Ferreira, I think you'll see man living a fairly public life. Try LinkedIN, all the rest...he's not shying away from any association with his program, and a FB post on a "positive-Elan stories" website doesn't seem to out of the ordinary to me.

        If you're telling me Wayne set up a dummy FB profile for Ferriera, in some half assed attempt at "exposing" him, that doesn't make too much sense to me. The man himself seems proud of what he's doing.

        And sure, lots of programs used and use similar tactics....I'm here to tell you that what I see in these two videos, sans a comprehensible soundtrack, is Elan. And I suspect that once I have a translation, I'll have even less doubt.
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Troublemaker on February 09, 2012, 12:12:02 AM
        I remember when someone here said Danny asked this guy for a job. Danny was in one of his abusive moods, was posting like a fool. And when (I think it was YV23) said that, Danny did one of his disappearing acts

        One thing I've noticed about Danny is that the only thing that shuts him up is the truth

        Didn't he disappear when the book first went up?
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Xelebes on February 09, 2012, 12:15:13 AM
        I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Ruaraidh on February 09, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
        Quote from: "Muppeteer"
        I think I'll be able to make up my mind for sure once I have a human translation of the vids.

        There were screen caps of his comments floating around which Wayne had posted....I believe he posted them in full context. You may have more information, i recognize that Rud....whatever your name is.

        Once again, not defending Wayne...don't care.

        But when you pull together a social media profile for Ferreira, I think you'll see man living a fairly public life. Try LinkedIN, all the rest...he's not shying away from any association with his program, and a FB post on a "positive-Elan stories" website doesn't seem to out of the ordinary to me.

        If you're telling me Wayne set up a dummy FB profile for Ferriera, in some half assed attempt at "exposing" him, that doesn't make too much sense to me. The man himself seems proud of what he's doing.

        And sure, lots of programs used and use similar tactics....I'm here to tell you that what I see in these two videos, sans a comprehensible soundtrack, is Elan. And I suspect that once I have a translation, I'll have even less doubt.

        Muppet Man/Wayne, quit with all the fucking bullshit and call the program. Then we can get rid of your sock puppet ass that just showed up 2 minutes ago. Ask him to come on here and explain he isn't hiding, that he is proud and all the other crap you are saying. Wayne, you said you had talked with him. Sooooo bring him here we can Skype.
        Here is the deal, prove it Wayne oh I'm sorry Muppet Man.
        Title: Elan School vs. Programa Ibicuy
        Post by: Ursus on February 09, 2012, 12:48:17 AM
        Quote from: "Muppeteer"
        I think I'll be able to make up my mind for sure once I have a human translation of the vids.

        There were screen caps of his comments floating around which Wayne had posted....I believe he posted them in full context. You may have more information, i recognize that Rud....whatever your name is.

        Once again, not defending Wayne...don't care.

        But when you pull together a social media profile for Ferreira, I think you'll see man living a fairly public life. Try LinkedIN, all the rest...he's not shying away from any association with his program, and a FB post on a "positive-Elan stories" website doesn't seem to out of the ordinary to me.

        If you're telling me Wayne set up a dummy FB profile for Ferriera, in some half assed attempt at "exposing" him, that doesn't make too much sense to me. The man himself seems proud of what he's doing.

        And sure, lots of programs used and use similar tactics....I'm here to tell you that what I see in these two videos, sans a comprehensible soundtrack, is Elan. And I suspect that once I have a translation, I'll have even less doubt.
        Well... from what I've observed of the current "state of affairs" in social media, the amount of chicanery can be quite extreme.

        Not to mention, the layers of (quite understandable) backlash to all that.

        The issue of whether or not the real Juan Ferreira is posting as "Juan Ferreira" on Facebook is beyond my current ability to ascertain. However, it is, believe it or not, perhaps immaterial to the reality of what constitutes the program origins of Programa Ibicuy.

        At this stage of the game, not having access to all pertinent sources, I have to say that, despite a predilection for playing Devil's Advocate, I do believe that Elan is a source, perhaps even the major source, for the program Ibicuy. I don't believe, however, that it is the only source.

        At the risk of redundancy and excessive reiteration, do take a look (once again, for those avidly following this issue) at a comparison of the shape and form, not to mention specific distribution of foliage, of THE TREE of respective logos reknown:

        (http://http://www.fornits.com/wwf/download/file.php?id=1804)[/list]
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Ruaraidh on February 09, 2012, 12:54:58 AM
        Quote from: "Xelebes"
        I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentina for these videos.

        A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on the "Elan Saved My life" facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why, so we can carry on this charade of getting transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say, hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is this guy really posting on the facebook Elan site or is it a fake?

        Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show up to obfuscate this thread, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck have. (He who gives his books away for free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free, I took 5 myself)

        Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.

        Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.
        Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
        Post by: Ursus on February 09, 2012, 01:01:23 AM
        Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
        Quote from: "Xelebes"
        I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.
        A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on Elan Saved My life facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why so we can carry on this charade of transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is the guy a really posting on facebook in the Elan site or is it a fake?

         Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show to obfuscate this thread with bullshit, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck (who gives his books away from free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free I took 5 myself) have. Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.

        Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.
        LOLLLLLL... I may never recover from this!
        Title: Re: Elan School vs. Programa Ibicuy
        Post by: Ruaraidh on February 09, 2012, 01:06:50 AM
        Quote from: "Ursus"
        Quote from: "Muppeteer"
        I think I'll be able to make up my mind for sure once I have a human translation of the vids.

        There were screen caps of his comments floating around which Wayne had posted....I believe he posted them in full context. You may have more information, i recognize that Rud....whatever your name is.

        Once again, not defending Wayne...don't care.

        But when you pull together a social media profile for Ferreira, I think you'll see man living a fairly public life. Try LinkedIN, all the rest...he's not shying away from any association with his program, and a FB post on a "positive-Elan stories" website doesn't seem to out of the ordinary to me.

        If you're telling me Wayne set up a dummy FB profile for Ferriera, in some half assed attempt at "exposing" him, that doesn't make too much sense to me. The man himself seems proud of what he's doing.

        And sure, lots of programs used and use similar tactics....I'm here to tell you that what I see in these two videos, sans a comprehensible soundtrack, is Elan. And I suspect that once I have a translation, I'll have even less doubt.
        Well... from what I've observed of the current "state of affairs" in social media, the amount of chicanery can be quite extreme.

        Not to mention, the layers of (quite understandable) backlash to all that.

        The issue of whether or not the real Juan Ferreira is posting as "Juan Ferreira" on Facebook is beyond my current ability to ascertain. However, it is, believe it or not, perhaps immaterial to the reality of what constitutes the program origins of Programa Ibicuy.

        At this stage of the game, not having access to all pertinent sources, I have to say that, despite a predilection for playing Devil's Advocate, I do believe that Elan is a source, perhaps even the major source, for the program Ibicuy. I don't believe, however, that it is the only source.

        At the risk of redundancy, do take a look (once again, for those avidly following this issue) at a comparison of the shape and form, not to mention specific distribution of foliage, of THE TREE of respective logos reknown:

          (http://http://www.fornits.com/wwf/download/file.php?id=1804)[/list]


          Appreciate the work, but the tree is not good enough. The tree is a universal symbol for growth, birth, stability ect...... lets say Elan was the catalyst as you say, I can go with that.  
          But when we called they did not say this. They acted as if Elan never existed. So why doesn't someone credible call them and ask the 4 questions. Does Juan F. own or work at this organization and did he go to Elan in Maine, is he posting on Elan Saved My Life and does he know Wayne Kernochan.
          I bet Rodrigo knows Juan.....somebody else wants some coffee...:)
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Xelebes on February 09, 2012, 01:09:09 AM
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Xelebes"
          I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.

          A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on Elan Saved My life facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why so we can carry on this charade of transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is the guy a really posting on facebook in the Elan site or is it a fake?

           Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show to obfuscate this thread with bullshit, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck (who gives his books away from free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free I took 5 myself) have. Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.

          Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.

          Well, I'm not concerned about the claimsbeing lobbed around in this thread.  I'm concerned about what's in the video.  It's interesting we don't know what they are saying.

          All I know is that in the first minute they are talking about the repercussions of leaving chicken bones not on the plate.  The translator friend is having a difficult time watching this video.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 09, 2012, 01:10:01 AM
          Quote from: "Ursus"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Xelebes"
          I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.
          A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on Elan Saved My life facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why so we can carry on this charade of transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is the guy a really posting on facebook in the Elan site or is it a fake?

           Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show to obfuscate this thread with bullshit, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck (who gives his books away from free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free I took 5 myself) have. Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.

          Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.
          LOLLLLLL... I may never recover from this!


          Why do you bother to get caught up with us. We are all a bunch of assclowns. Myself included. You seem to be so sensible, steady and mature....lol.
          Just saying.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 09, 2012, 01:14:21 AM
          Quote from: "Xelebes"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Xelebes"
          I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.

          A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on Elan Saved My life facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why so we can carry on this charade of transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is the guy a really posting on facebook in the Elan site or is it a fake?

           Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show to obfuscate this thread with bullshit, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck (who gives his books away from free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free I took 5 myself) have. Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.

          Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.

          Well, I'm not concerned about the claimsbeing lobbed around in this thread.  I'm concerned about what's in the video.  It's interesting we don't know what they are saying.

          All I know is that in the first minute they are talking about the repercussions of leaving chicken bones not on the plate.  The translator friend is having a difficult time watching this video.

          We already knew you were not interested in figuring out if yourself was going to get busted again for lying, Wayne. You don't have any friend figuring out anything. If Rodrigo can speak spanish and if he is there this is over in 5 mins. X-fuck you have been on it for a hour. What is the Spaniard a Russian puto in disguise.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 02:13:34 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 02:38:01 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: none-ya on February 09, 2012, 02:52:04 AM
          Quote
          Wayne wrote
          If I have to fuck myself to fuck you, I'm happy to do it,


          I told you he was gay for you.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 03:25:32 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: none-ya on February 09, 2012, 03:34:54 AM
          Quote
          Wayne wrote:

          I left here and deleted all my posts but you couldn't deal with me not being here to abuse


          I had no problem with you NOT being here.

          Damn your fucking stupid.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 03:38:45 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 03:39:52 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 03:49:40 AM
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          Post by: dr phil show on February 09, 2012, 04:07:39 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anne Bonney on February 09, 2012, 04:43:40 AM
          Quote from: "dr phil show"
          Is there a policy about making threats towards other fornits members?


          Apparently not as Danny feels free to do it quite frequently.

          Btw...who would choose to take on the moniker "Dr." Phil?? :suicide:
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Muppeteer on February 09, 2012, 08:35:08 AM
          Zomg, no, and for what I am sure isn't the last time, I am not Wayne. I attended in the 1980's.

          I am not an unreasonable person, can accept I don't have irrefutable proof of Juan attending Élan, beyond seemingly his own words.

          Some of you seem to think the profile could be fake, well, it could be, but I seriously doubt it.

          I also do not doubt that they would lie on the phone when asked.

          In any case, the proof I refer to is personal proof, I'm not making a Federal case of this (although the thought has crossed my mind).

          I don't know Danny at all. I don't know Wayne at all.

          But I do know Ricci, Davidson, Flynn, Roy-Simmons, Gottlieb, Keoppler, Woodman, and others.

          I'll have my Spanish speaker look at these today. I don't need to prove anything to any of you, only to myself, for the time being at least.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 08:58:21 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 09, 2012, 10:02:15 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Muppeteer on February 09, 2012, 11:06:44 AM
          Okay, I had a nice sit down with a translator...The yellow shirt man doesn't mention his name, but I think it is clear he is Juan Ferryera (Ferreira). Especially after having the comments on the video accurately translated...

          As he describes the structure of the house in the video, it's even more clear that, yes, indeed this is an Elan based program.

          Furthermore, the translation of the comments on the two videos details the same type of complaints I hear about Elan's methodology.

          My translator also complained about those thick Argentinian accents, and noted that Ferryera's is either less pronounced of non-existent, so he was perhaps the easiest one to translate.
          Title: ¿qué sabe usted?
          Post by: Froderik on February 09, 2012, 11:48:35 AM
          El violador muerto se cayó del árbol.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: none-ya on February 09, 2012, 01:17:59 PM
          Chupa para ustas.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ursus on February 10, 2012, 12:55:08 AM
          Quote from: "Muppeteer"
          Okay, I had a nice sit down with a translator...The yellow shirt man doesn't mention his name, but I think it is clear he is Juan Ferryera (Ferreira). Especially after having the comments on the video accurately translated...

          As he describes the structure of the house in the video, it's even more clear that, yes, indeed this is an Elan based program.

          Furthermore, the translation of the comments on the two videos details the same type of complaints I hear about Elan's methodology.

          My translator also complained about those thick Argentinian accents, and noted that Ferryera's is either less pronounced of non-existent, so he was perhaps the easiest one to translate.
          Any chance you'd perhaps want to share those (more) accurate comment translations?
          Title: YouTube clip: "Programa Ibicuy"
          Post by: Ursus on February 10, 2012, 01:14:32 AM
          I never did get around to posting the link for the 2nd YouTube clip uploaded by denunciaibicuy so... here it is (with some select comments and miscellaneous observations following):

          Programa Ibicuy (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCLDMHZC6rs)

          This 3:00 clip opens with an interview of the person presumed to be Juan Ferreira (wearing the yellow alligator shirt). This was probably filmed the same day as the other clip.

          The older woman mentioned previously (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39025&start=15#p412853) is also interviewed. Here's her pic again:

          (http://http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/a8poNHmXEvs/3.jpg)[/list]

          More clipboards abound....

          Title shown at 2:07 (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kCLDMHZC6rs#t=127s): "reunion de coordinadores" (translation: coordinators' meeting).
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 01:53:59 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Eliscu2 on February 10, 2012, 01:56:09 AM
          I remember Juan.
          He seems to have done well for himself.
          That woman reminds me of Anne Flynn.
          Title: Comments: "Programa Ibicuy"
          Post by: Ursus on February 10, 2012, 02:05:31 AM
          Apparently, suicide post-program is not such a rare occurence when the unfortunate individual attended Programa Ibicuy...

          Comments (http://http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=kCLDMHZC6rs) (and Google translations thereof) left for the above YouTube clip, "Programa Ibicuy (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39025&p=412947#p412947)":


          provincianesca · 5 months ago
          GOD'S listen to this thing explaining the structure of the house I was in this place where all freedoms are violated and that the individual has killed up to the first resident of the damn circus costume Ferreyra got on the SAME WATER TANK many people and committed suicide Daniel Gonzalez Claudio Palumbo and others committed suicide after he left that day infierno.Hoy in Paranacito is the people with higher index of hiv in the country thanks to the 80 outputs.[/list]
          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          @ provincianesca My son also committed suicide to get out of there. Never got a call from Ferreyra and his wife, completely ignored the fact that for 5 years to be promptly paid the fee and I kept everything I said. May God forgive them because my human limitations do not allow me.[/list][/list]
          provincianesca · 5 months ago
          So Ferreyra them out u $ s 3000. - Your parents for a month with the promise that after 18 months you will get a new man made ??something like the 3rd Reich Germany but in miniature then torture you during that time and says that for 1 year and a half do not drogastes, so there goes most resent abuse and tips Ferreyra (static group smoked) "I now silver druggie" "smoking pot is not bad" "in the output two beers nothing more "and you're fried angel ...[/list]
          mnmjrg10 · 5 months ago
          everything is paid in life, Ferreyra plays with people's feelings q have problems, and family ... someday will pay for all, today people in there q leaves, dead ends, many people with the q i was hospitalized, died ... are going to pay them all, Ferreyra and q are all stuck in this farce ... are all sons of bitches ..[/list]
          pablovortixe · 4 months ago
          This site is currently in operation?[/list]
          provincianesca · 3 months ago
          @ pablovortixe and still do not know how! Route 12 km 150 need to go smoke from the chimneys of alcatraz guy keeps robbing and killing the same systematology of 1986 (and copied the process), you go to interview for admission to baires and shows you pictures of people surfing boat, then you suck (he and his followers use the same definition) will take you to the island of cheto and if you do something you negas shit to blows and you get into a corner where you keep giving[/list][/list]
          provincianesca · 3 months ago
          I saw the case of Daniel Gonzales (who also committed suicide when leaving) was in 1992 the rate is not more and stand in the middle of lunch the stomach opened, they saw it ... came Melchiori guts to time (the generalist physician town mayor also that before this patch specialized in the tortured process) made 57 points tied a flank steak and nothing happened here and I have hundreds of examples but I was never going to clear the ends justify the media said the hdp ...[/list]
          provincianesca · 5 months ago
          Now who the fuck is mine? Fat's second wife perhaps? because the first was separated after the horns prevented him from buying cars that were not convertible ... mine ... I mean reciting the same passion with which the fat chamullo taught in accelerated courses Ferreyra is a wild animal at a time buy derby and parents spent the price of a malboro because there did not give you anything without cobrarselo a fortune to your flia and / or social work pathogen fat you'll pay ...[/list]
          unacharruaenmiami · 3 months ago
          John Ferreira you look on your face you're a fake and have no feelings. As all this pains me, that immense pain to know that our children die without anyone cares. My son is alive, but I swear by God's care and I fight like a thousand animals together. My son came out in 2009 and did not know him, however I leave here my mail and phone because cell Hermós JUSTICIA.ainos_capital @ hotmail.com 786 270 7328 USA Live in USA. /[/list]
          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          That horror was the guy who opened the stomach! Poor thing will have been desperate! Anyone know if you live and how to contact the flia?[/list]
          provincianesca · 3 weeks ago
          Lamentablente Daniel Gonzales died a few months out of Ibicuy, he sold ties the poor ... and one day is shot by a fairly high floor when he fell and died, this is probably because the fat easily hdp Ferreyra had a book of income and anomalies that wrote the "staff" when there was something ominous but in the realm of lies that is the island have probably disappeared as his first wife disappeared after making a cuckold with Russian Herkowich Ferreira and dISAPPEARED[/list]
          provincianesca · 3 weeks ago
          As also the father of Christian Mercatante killed his wife and then committed suicide with a pistol he also, in meters of "the house of Buenos Aires" the cave at that time worked in Almagro at Peron preached almost Bulnes.Ferreyra both guilt feels nothing now according to the drug with silver and that advice given in static groups when participating in these on their visits and smoking that you may have until 3 am talking all phased-bearded one is negligible in all[/list]


          © 2012 YouTube, LLC
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 02:07:48 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: none-ya on February 10, 2012, 02:14:05 AM
          Quote
          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?

          So says the KING of the sock puppets himself.


          (I know,go fuck my mother.Right?)
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 02:41:29 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Muppeteer on February 10, 2012, 08:32:13 AM
          Ursus, yes, I will see if he'll spend a few minutes with me on this....but you basically got it, lots of complaints about fraud and suicide.

          Felice, which one reminds you of Flynn? There is an Anne Flynn Ferreira in Rhode Island, perhaps she is involved in this program. Perhaps not, but that strikes me as an odd coincidence.

          Wayne, I will ask my translator for a specific reading on that statement.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Troublemaker on February 10, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
          This was the first thing I thought when I read the Rururudia (Danny's)  posts.

          Wayne, you need to stop posting threats. It makes me, and I'm sure others, a little afraid. It takes away your credibility

          If this guy made his wife disappear, then he's the last person I want to see in Poland Springs
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Troublemaker on February 10, 2012, 12:05:39 PM
          Quote from: "none-ya"
          Quote
          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?

          So says the KING of the sock puppets himself.


          (I know,go fuck my mother.Right?)
          None-ya, you really do sound like Danny sometimes. Worse than that is you seem to be supporting him. There was a time you posted intelligent, well thought out posts, but lately, your posts are hate spewing, garbage

          And, as a child who was sexually abused at Elan, I'm offended by your jokes about it. We get it, you don't like Wayne. But, do you have to make jokes about him being raped? That makes you look like a horrible person

          If we're going to keep this sick animal from opening Elan back up, we have to look like adults. If Danny is really trying to get a job there, we need to stop it at any cost

          I hope you guys can at least agree on that and lay down the bullshit for a while
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          Post by: Froderik on February 10, 2012, 01:42:29 PM
          Quote from: "Troublemaker"
          Quote from: "none-ya"
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          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?

          So says the KING of the sock puppets himself.


          (I know,go fuck my mother.Right?)
          None-ya, you really do sound like Danny sometimes. Worse than that is you seem to be supporting him. There was a time you posted intelligent, well thought out posts, but lately, your posts are hate spewing, garbage

          And, as a child who was sexually abused at Elan, I'm offended by your jokes about it. We get it, you don't like Wayne. But, do you have to make jokes about him being raped? That makes you look like a horrible person

          If we're going to keep this sick animal from opening Elan back up, we have to look like adults. If Danny is really trying to get a job there, we need to stop it at any cost

          I hope you guys can at least agree on that and lay down the bullshit for a while

           :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:  :feedtrolls:
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Muppeteer on February 10, 2012, 02:20:56 PM
          I don't have the heart to ask my translator to go over all the comments for a transcript, but I did ask him to specifically translate the one Wayne alerted me to. Translating them is too time intensive to get to all of them, but if you have one or two others you'd like me to pass along for human translation, let me know. He's taken an interest in this story.

          So here was his take on comment in re: Daniel Gonzales and the missing 1st wife.

          Translation: Unfortunately, Daniel Gonzales died a few months after leaving Ibicuy, he sold ties, the poor guy…And one day he threw himself off of a high story floor and died on impact, all of this probably because that fat SOB Ferreyra kept a book of entries and anomalies written by the “staff” whenever he succeeded in something ominous (did something wrong). But, in the realm of lies that is the island, it (the book) probably has been “disappeared” like the first wife of Ferreyra after she cuckolded him with the “Russian” Herkowich.


          So yes, it would appear that the original commentator is suggesting that Ferryera's first wife disappeared after cheating on him with a Russian man.
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          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 03:05:16 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?


          Here is are pan sexual boy running off at the mouth again. Wayne, there isn't anyone here that does not believe you are a first class whackjob. Not a one. So just like the states attorney, attorney general for Maine, countless lawyers, your advocate  organizations for civil rights, gay and lesbians groups (you as of last year were advocating for), your mommy and daddy  ......let see what else have you thrown at us, that you said you contacted. Yeah that's right the OKC police (at least 5 times if counting)now we have the Sun Journal.  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

          Wayne do us all a favor "pan boy" go curl up with Rodrigo and Arkom and have yourself a good ole cock sucking slumber party. You seem a bit tense lately. Must be hitting on some delicate points

          You are a liar Wayne and a fabricator, plain and simple. You put the avatar pic to the Juan Ferreira name and wrote the posts. You never thought anyone would contact IBcuy and ask. Well guess what we did again yesterday. We can now officially say you are the one who falsified a Facebook Account (probably using Rodrigo's friends) and the person you are using has no idea why you are doing this. Facebook has been contacted and they will look into it. To bad it isn't a crime yet (that they will enforce).
          You can keep fabricating all these different usernames and having all these conversations about what they are saying on the vidoes bla bla bla. But what you can't hide or make go away is you lied about the posts on "Elan Saved My Life" site. That is you. Just like the Joe Ricci site.
          As we have said from the beginning, if you want to find out the truth behind Wayne actions for once, call IBcuy and ask your questions. Otherwise Tell Wayne And His SockPuppets To STFU.
          What's the matter Wayne does yo boyfriend Ro Ro have yo balls.
          Giddy up and get the truth out. Enuff said!!
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 03:15:32 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Thank you Ursus, I forwarded that to Judy Meyer

          None-ya, no, your mother is too good a lay, you don't deserve her

          WoW, Judy Meyer. Yeah, she will just fly all the way down to Argentina and investigate this story. I wish she would, we need to get at least one reporter to actually infiltrate one of these programs to get the info out.

          But Wayne we aren't talking about that are we. We are talking about your ego, long before you knew anything about this program or what Ursus posted. You went on and on about how you had talked with Juan and that he was
          considering buying Elan in Maine. You brought this to the facebook site. You wanted to be involved. Good thing Ursus went and found this information eh!!! Dumbass!!
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
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          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 03:40:49 PM
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          Wayne K. wrote:
          I'm not the only one who called the O.C. police Dan. I have one person from here and one from Stinking Thinking who are in touch with them punk. Still waiting to hear from Rachel. It's not going to be a cock sucking party, it's going to be an ass fucking party, and you're the guest of honor faggot

          Y'know, I forgot to call Alice. Think I'll do that now.


          Nope still not Danny......Wayne, now it is 3 people contacting the OKC that is wonderful, please contact the Fort Myers and Atlanta Ga. police dept's to while you are at it. Danny lives periodically there also. They are defiantly going to want to talk with someone who has threatened to murder someone right here on this site. Oh, I'm sorry did you forget that you did that, dumbass. Hey are you still fucking with that guy you think is Danny in Ga. who lost his home.... :rofl:
          Waynooo you will never know my friend. You are so far off as who you are speaking to it isn't funny.
          Wayne you are the one who said you enjoy sucking cock and taking it in the ass. Danny didn't.  

          We also saw where you are still trying to push the sodomy bullshit on Danny. You really want everyone here to believe that after everything you have done on this site, the sock puppets, fabrications, verbal threats of murder, abusive profane language, lying ect......you now want us to believe that Danny sodomized you at Elan 7 in 1978. Wayne you stupid ass, you never would have left that out of your book. Just like you contemplated telling everyone that Danny dragged around Mary because if you had that really would have complicated things legally for your publisher and you. Your publisher told you to take that out because it was bullshit. So if you are ready to go beyond running your mouth here and on facebook, go ahead and put it in a book. Wayne I want you to continue running your mouth, i need you to do this. You are exactly like the Patriots 98% of the time you cover the spread, Wayne. You are like money in the bank.

          Hey thanks for making Danny famous, we really appreciate it. More people have come forward (including other Danny B's). Please check with a lawyer because you are also on the hook if other Danny B's are hurt by your slander. I don't have all the particulars but there are enough lawyers and para-legals around to fill you in.
          Wayne keep it up.
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 03:48:50 PM
          Quote from: "Eliscu2"
          I remember Juan.
          He seems to have done well for himself.
          That woman reminds me of Anne Flynn.


          I am calling bullshit on this. Call IBcuy and prove it. Since you know him ask him to come here and at least prove he exists and went to Elan. Seems everyone here is to chicken shit to call.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 03:49:32 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
          :bump:


          Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!

          Postby Ruaraidh » 8 minutes ago

              Wayne K. wrote:
              I'm not the only one who called the O.C. police Dan. I have one person from here and one from Stinking Thinking who are in touch with them punk. Still waiting to hear from Rachel. It's not going to be a cock sucking party, it's going to be an ass fucking party, and you're the guest of honor faggot

              Y'know, I forgot to call Alice. Think I'll do that now.




          Nope still not Danny......Wayne, now it is 3 people contacting the OKC that is wonderful, please contact the Fort Myers and Atlanta Ga. police dept's to while you are at it. Danny lives periodically there also. They are defiantly going to want to talk with someone who has threatened to murder someone right here on this site. Oh, I'm sorry did you forget that you did that, dumbass. Hey are you still fucking with that guy you think is Danny in Ga. who lost his home.... :rofl:
          Waynooo you will never know my friend. You are so far off as who you are speaking to it isn't funny.
          Wayne you are the one who said you enjoy sucking cock and taking it in the ass. Danny didn't.

          We also saw where you are still trying to push the sodomy bullshit on Danny. You really want everyone here to believe that after everything you have done on this site, the sock puppets, fabrications, verbal threats of murder, abusive profane language, lying ect......you now want us to believe that Danny sodomized you at Elan 7 in 1978. Wayne you stupid ass, you never would have left that out of your book. Just like you contemplated telling everyone that Danny dragged around Mary because if you had that really would have complicated things legally for your publisher and you. Your publisher told you to take that out because it was bullshit. So if you are ready to go beyond running your mouth here and on facebook, go ahead and put it in a book. Wayne I want you to continue running your mouth, i need you to do this. You are exactly like the Patriots 98% of the time you cover the spread, Wayne. You are like money in the bank.

          Hey thanks for making Danny famous, we really appreciate it. More people have come forward (including other Danny B's). Please check with a lawyer because you are also on the hook if other Danny B's are hurt by your slander. I don't have all the particulars but there are enough lawyers and para-legals around to fill you in.
          Wayne keep it up.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 04:06:49 PM
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          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 04:31:13 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          #4 in memoir

          #2 in true crime

          And on it goes :)

          I guess your review wasn't very convincing  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

          http://www.amazon.com/Life-Gone-Awry-Sc ... t_ep_dpt_2 (http://www.amazon.com/Life-Gone-Awry-School-ebook/dp/B007055KA8/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2)


          Wayne what you think we are all stupid. Those statistics don't mean a fucking thing, dumbass. Your Kindle hits are in the low hundreds... :roflmao:

          Listen when you hit the best seller list, THE REAL ONE. I (Ruard) will personally come visit you with Danny's lawyer. But that is a ways off my friend and long way.........off.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 04:39:17 PM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:00:39 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Xelebes"
          I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentina for these videos.

          A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on the "Elan Saved My life" facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why, so we can carry on this charade of getting transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say, hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is this guy really posting on the facebook Elan site or is it a fake?

          Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show up to obfuscate this thread, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck have. (He who gives his books away for free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free, I took 5 myself)

          Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.

          Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.
          Let's get something straight DANNY, you fucking cunt. I'm not any of these people. You're the sock puppet bitch here, not me. Second, my address is 45-25 41st street apt 3-R in Sunnyside Queens 11104, and if you show your fucking face at my door, I'm going to send you back to that traveling circus you call a family in a body bag.

          Anther thing, I saw the e-mail you sent to Juan. I read it when Jeff got it from Juan asshole. Juan wanted to know who you are. He thinks you're an idiot btw

          The Sun Times is looking into Ibicuy. I'm done with it.

          And, I may be a pan faggot, but I'll kick your faggot ass up and down the street. My invitation to settle this like men, in Golds Gym in the ring stands. Or are you afraid?

          Punk ass bitch

          Go fuck yourself. I don't need fake profiles. I have no problem telling you what a piece of shit you are using my name. I'll tell you right now, come to NYC and I'll stab you till you're dead. Call the 108th precinct and report me, and let the investigation begin.

          I've been in touch with the Oklahoma City police department, and if they find your pussy ass, you've got a few questions to answer, like the threat you sent me about Rhode Island. You think I'm afraid of you? Kiss my ass. That;'s my address. Bring it hard or stay home and drink yourself dead

          Your signature is a felony stupid. Your constant stalking of a victim of your abuse as an ex staff member is also a crime

          I look forward to the cops arresting me, so I cget to tell the judge exactly what the fuck you've been doing for the past year

          So, asshole, make the call, of shut your stupid mouth.

          http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/preci ... _108.shtml (http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/precincts/precinct_108.shtml)

           5-47 50th Ave., Long Island City, NY, 11105
           (718) 784-5411

          Oh, and lying asshol, Amazon only allows one download per Kindle. You're full of shit about that too
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:01:19 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          So, what do you have to say Dan? I just threatened your life. A felony. Call them bitch. I fucking dare you.

          Call

          Call

          Call

          Or shut your stupid drunken, abusive face
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:01:50 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Ya know what? Fuck it. I'm on my way over there to turn myself in. They have to investigate my claim if I do

          You won't press charges though, will you? You're a punk.

          They will speak to the Ok. City police though. I promise you that

          If I have to fuck myself to fuck you, I'm happy to do it, but make no mistake you little bitch, I'll do it
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Hi Anne, good to see you.

          Muppet, everyone who confronts this freak, he accuses of being me. Here, on topix, Face Book, Reddit, and that Orange Paper site

          Hey Danny, I'm not afraid of you. I don't need to use fake names. Punk ass bitch

          Once again, I Wayne Kernochan, will kill you if you come to my door, you punk ass bitch

          Who the hell is Rodrigo anyway? Dude is cute, but you know I'm into black guys (or as you call them, Niggers)

          Ruriadh and Horatio are Danny. Margaret Devlin is Danny, and T-rex is Danny. Y'know how everyone knows? Because no one, anti or pro Elan has ever stuck up for him

          Still waiting Danny. Call the cops or I have another little bomb to drop, and when I do, that warm feeling in your pants will be yesterday's lunch.

          I'm waiting punk
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          For any one who seriously thinking about Juan and Ibicuy

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          On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:22 PM, "Wayne Kernochan" <[email protected]> wrote:

           Mr. Rhoades,


          My name is Wayne Kernochan, and I was interviewed by Ms. Meyers when Elan closed in March. I was a small part of the internet campaign that shut it down. I've always felt that it went away too easily. Too quietly. I dared them to sue me by writing a book about Elan, and calling them child abusers. They didn't even threaten me.

          There is an Elan in Venezuela called Ibicuy. They have the same logo as Elan did. http://www.ibicuy.com/ (http://www.ibicuy.com/) The owner has expressed an interest in buying the Poland campus and reopening it. I have evidence of everything I've just said.

          I was wondering if you would be interested in this as a story.

          Thank you for your time



          Best,


          Wayne

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          Rex Rhoades
          Rex Rhoades
          [email protected] (http://mailto:[email protected])
           
          Send email

          Hi Wayne,
          I do remember talking with you last March.
          If this Venezuela company is planning to buy the POland property, we'd be very interested in reporting that.
          Could you please send what you have and I'll take a look?
          Thanks.
          Judy

          Jeff Weintraub was on the inside, Matt Hoffma and Mark Babitz were well aware that I was trying to get Juan to let me in, until Danny sent him that e-mail.

          He wants to be staff again. It's the only time in his life that anyone gave a shit what he had to say

          My response to Ms. Meyer

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          Ms. Meyers,


          The property went up for sale at one million dollars on Craigslist. Here, http://maine.craigslist.org/reb/2456261356.htmlbut (http://maine.craigslist.org/reb/2456261356.htmlbut) the listing has expired. Craigslist can confirm it was there. Below is a conversation from "Elan Saved My Life" on Face Book. I'm sure Fran Lupo would add you if you ask. http://www.facebook.com/vegasfran (http://www.facebook.com/vegasfran)

          I contacted him privately and told him that if he was interested in opening a non abusive program, that I could help him. He wrote back agreeably, but then Danny Bennison spoke to him and he stopped responding to me.

          Maia Szavivitz wrote an article about a non tough-love program in Georgia that was having wonderful results. He seemed willing to listen. It would bring money and jobs to Maine. I'm Face Book friends with  Senator Nichi Farnham. I thought it was a good idea. Danny has been stalking and harassing me and anyone I contact since Elan closed. He was my director and the focus of my book. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007055KA8/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007055KA8/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk)



          If you do this article, you're probably going to inherit him. He's very vicious. He'll attack your friends and family. Be careful if he contacts you.

          He was going to testify against Michael Skakel after he saw the confession beaten out of him. Rumor is that Danny intervened because he wants to work for Juan. If he does, children are at serious risk. Danny sexually abused residents. He admitted to one.

          If Juan is willing to hire Danny, then he also lied. He wants the old Elan back.

          From his website: "will love to hear from people from that time after I graduated went back to argentina and in 1984 started my own program http://www.ibicuy.com (http://www.ibicuy.com) being at elan cahanged my life.... of course Im still at the program....life is a program. god bless joe and all the angels that saved me at elan. kisses juan"

          _____________________________________________________
          From "Elan Saved My Life"


          Fran Lupo
          Elan porperty is up for sale. Asking price is $1 million for 32+ acres & 10 buildings. http://maine.craigslist.org/ (http://maine.craigslist.org/)?reb/2456261356.htmlFormer Elan School- 32+ Acre Waterfron Campus
          maine.craigslist.org

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          Chuck Lambert Holy Shit ! i knew this wpold happen ! Wish I had that money or be able to get a loan for it !
          June 27, 2011 at 3:49pm · Like · 2


          Brian Mccarrall Let's go we should buy it and start our own school but do it right Marc will run it
          June 27, 2011 at 3:59pm · Like · 2


          David Bergeron Rumors had been around for awhile that the owner was angling for this for at least the past year. Not surprised as all with her cut throat attitude toward the Elan School. For years Elan School floated the rest of the corporation financially but when things got tough financially for elan , she cut the school off at the knees. Too bad other programs in Maine were not in a position to buy the place and run it correctly but many programs are having financial troubles today.
          June 27, 2011 at 4:57pm · Like · 3




          Holle Walker i don't believe that property is worth half the asking price, not in todays market anyways...there have been NO major improvments since we were there in the early 90's....and the buildings weren't much then, the land has a STEEP grade you all remember the hill to the lake, about the only market for it as it exsists is as a summer camp, which in todays market isn't too high on any investors list, maybe a non-profit or church group could get a grant, otherwise its going to sit and sit, it was once written in an article about the property that in the 70's it was "posh" to "get well" in the woods but for 50,000 plus parents expect more than a year round "camp"

          June 29, 2011 at 6:48am · Like · 1


          DeForest Wayne reduced to $850k - whatta bargain!!
          July 26, 2011 at 6:29pm · Like · 2


          Juan Ferreira I can buy it and open again !!!! will need help
          August 10, 2011 at 11:44am · Like · 1


          Juan Ferreira I did it in argentina in1983 http:// http://www.ibicuy.com (http://www.ibicuy.com)
          August 10, 2011 at 11:44am · Unlike · 2
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:03:47 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
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          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 06:03:55 PM
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          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:04:17 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Thank you Ursus, I forwarded that to Judy Meyer

          None-ya, no, your mother is too good a lay, you don't deserve her
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:04:49 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?


          Here is are pan sexual boy running off at the mouth again. Wayne, there isn't anyone here that does not believe you are a first class whackjob. Not a one. So just like the states attorney, attorney general for Maine, countless lawyers, your advocate  organizations for civil rights, gay and lesbians groups (you as of last year were advocating for), your mommy and daddy  ......let see what else have you thrown at us, that you said you contacted. Yeah that's right (at least 5 times if counting)now we have the Sun Journal.  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

          Wayne do us all a favor "pan boy" go curl up with Rodrigo and Arkom and have yourself a good ole cock sucking slumber party. You seem a bit tense lately. Must be hitting on some delicate points

          You are a liar Wayne and a fabricator, plain and simple. You put the avatar pic to the Juan Ferreira name and wrote the posts. You never thought anyone would contact IBcuy and ask. Well guess what we did again yesterday. We can now officially say you are the one who falsified a Facebook Account (probably using Rodrigo's friends) and the person you are using has no idea why you are doing this. Facebook has been contacted and they will look into it. To bad it isn't a crime yet (that they will enforce).
          You can keep fabricating all these different usernames and having all these conversations about what they are saying on the vidoes bla bla bla. But what you can't hide or make go away is you lied about the posts on "Elan Saved My Life" site. That is you. Just like the Joe Ricci site.
          As we have said from the beginning, if you want to find out the truth behind Wayne actions for once, call IBcuy and ask your questions. Otherwise Tell Wayne And His SockPuppets To STFU.
          What's the matter Wayne does yo boyfriend Ro Ro have yo balls.
          Giddy up and get the truth out. Enuff said!!
          I'm not the only one who called the O.C. police Dan. I have one person from here and one from Stinking Thinking who are in touch with them punk. Still waiting to hear from Rachel. It's not going to be a cock sucking party, it's going to be an ass fucking party, and you're the guest of honor faggot

          Y'know, I forgot to call Alice. Think I'll do that now
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:05:32 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Thank you Ursus, I forwarded that to Judy Meyer

          None-ya, no, your mother is too good a lay, you don't deserve her

          WoW, Judy Meyer. Yeah, she will just fly all the way down to Argentina and investigate this story. I wish she would, we need to get at least one reporter to actually infiltrate one of these programs to get the info out.

          But Wayne we aren't talking about that are we. We are talking about your ego, long before you knew anything about this program or what Ursus posted. You went on and on about how you had talked with Juan and that he was
          considering buying Elan in Maine. You brought this to the facebook site. You wanted to be involved. Good thing Ursus went and found this information eh!!! Dumbass!!
          What, Dan, are you tired of abusing people and getting your ass handed to you on Orange Papers?

          I'm going to fly to Oklahoma City as soon as they slap cuffs on you, ya punk
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:06:08 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          By the way Danjo, 464 people have downloaded the book. That's almost 500 more people who know what a sick piece of shit you are. This is halfway through day one :)

          Us pan faggots know how to promote, didn't ya hear?

           :twofinger:
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 06:22:21 PM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          #4 in memoir

          #2 in true crime

          And on it goes :)

          I guess your review wasn't very convincing  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

          http://www.amazon.com/Life-Gone-Awry-Sc ... t_ep_dpt_2 (http://www.amazon.com/Life-Gone-Awry-School-ebook/dp/B007055KA8/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2)


          Wayne what you think we are all stupid. Those statistics don't mean a fucking thing, dumbass. Your Kindle hits are in the low hundreds... :roflmao:

          Listen when you hit the best seller list, THE REAL ONE. I (Ruard) will personally come visit you with Danny's lawyer. But that is a ways off my friend and long way.........off.
          Hey stupid that's the ranking :)

          The lower the number, the better

          BTW #2 and #4 are outrageous

          Over 700 downloads so far. Tell your lawyer to start the car asshole


          Wayne.......700... :roflmao: riiiiiight and we are supposed to believe you....well I guess we can this time because it is free. Are you trying to insinuate that Danny should feel humliated because 700 people (your saying this we have no proof) picked up a free copy of a memoir. Sorry he has long forgotten about you, pal. Danny doesn't give a shit what you do or sell. It would be better for him if you did sell.
          Wayne Danny doesn't hear you.....he never has. His sister tried but realized you were a waste of time. Quote: "He can not even conceptualize the truth never mind write about it."
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 10, 2012, 06:25:52 PM
          Just came in as a email...

          A fellow well known writer critiquing Wayne's memoir.........Quote: "He can not even conceptualize the truth never mind write about it."    :roflmao:





          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
          :bump:
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Horatio on February 10, 2012, 08:28:16 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          #4 in memoir

          #2 in true crime

          And on it goes :)

          I guess your review wasn't very convincing  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

          http://www.amazon.com/Life-Gone-Awry-Sc ... t_ep_dpt_2 (http://www.amazon.com/Life-Gone-Awry-School-ebook/dp/B007055KA8/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2)


          Wayne what you think we are all stupid. Those statistics don't mean a fucking thing, dumbass. Your Kindle hits are in the low hundreds... :roflmao:

          Listen when you hit the best seller list, THE REAL ONE. I (Ruard) will personally come visit you with Danny's lawyer. But that is a ways off my friend and long way.........off.
          If you come visit me, you better bring an army, not a lawyer,  bitch. You may come through the door horizontal, but you're going out vertical.

          I'll stab you till your dead you fucking piece of shit

          Quote me on that
          Title: yes, resurrection please...
          Post by: Ursus on February 10, 2012, 08:42:21 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          If you come visit me, you better bring an army, not a lawyer,  bitch. You may come through the door horizontal, but you're going out vertical.

          I'll stab you till your dead you fucking piece of shit

          Quote me on that
          :eek:
          So... yer gonna raise him from the dead before you kill him? Or after?

          Promises of resurrection are rarely so... delicately put... :rofl:
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Horatio on February 10, 2012, 08:47:51 PM
          Wayne we will be coming to visit you for sure. I too personally want to see the knife of yours. You seem to be transfixed by it. You like to brag about how you stab people.
          You are so funny. One moment you are this gay pride panny boy and the next you are this tuff guy macho man ready to tear apart anybody. WTF!!!
          As far as your stabbing anybody that not ever going to happen. What you seem to forget we have already seen you, we have looked at you and you are not intimidating at all. Remember I told you, we had you investigated.
          You wrote a book about Danny, we wanted to know who you were. When are you going to tell people your real name?? Aye.......that's right. When????? Because we are sick and tired of waiting for you to get honest.
          You love to float around names Jeffrey Weintraub, Jerry Torres, Juan Ferreira, Rodrigo Fredeci, Arkom Phanaronke and then the one you don't want to say.

          Wayne you called Danny out for a fight, he will be in Rhode Island in July. This is 2-3 hrs from where you are in Queens. Come on this is your big chance dude. We can take you up to Federal Hill and you can explain to the pisians how you had something to do with the hit on Paul Castellano. My man, Wayne!!!! This is in his book Street Life, this guy writes about his involvement with the hit on Castellano. WTF!!!! Where are we, where is Francis Coppella, we need a producer/director herra!!!!
          What do you think because most of the peeps involved are dead and you have a fake name they can't find out who you are.
          You have absolutely no common sense at all.
          Title: Comments: denunciaibicuy's YouTube Channel
          Post by: Ursus on February 10, 2012, 08:55:51 PM
          Here are some comments (http://http://www.youtube.com/user/denunciaibicuy/feed?filter=1) left on denunciaibicuy's YouTube Channel, along with crude Google translations...

          * For reference (since they're a few pages back at this point), here are links to posts with denunciaibicuy's uploaded material:

          [/size][/color]

          provincianesca · 5 months ago
          Not taken into account if one is able to withstand all that yelling and hitting verdugueada and for 18 months what the big fucking rip his way to Colorado again who is not that mine seem zombies repeating things you already rang me lie 1989 shoe watchman called me fat Drogon Fumon Pay the city all you need t} fails to steal direct tv signal you are a negligible fat in the broad spectrum that includes ponelo to give the chef mario cc.[/list]
          provincianesca · 5 months ago
          For me denunciaibicuy title gives the impression that you're one of the thousands since you have not spent anything right on that damn island or am I wrong?[/list]
          mnmjrg10 · 5 months ago
          are already ruined, soon will have q saw this place, they lie acavo ...[/list]
          unacharruaenmiami · 4 months ago
          I wonder how many esan willing to report here. Here was my son 3 years and as I am speaking ministries and Uruguay are also governors to obtain a medical history of my son. If someone wants to make complaints in addition to these and mine.[/list]
          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          The lady of Uruguay, I want to tell you that my son has been in place for 5 years and out is suicide.[/list]
          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          To all who were affected by this regime of torture I ask you not afraid that Ferreira and unmask those around you.[/list]
          denunciaibicuy1 · 2 months ago
          [email protected] (http://mailto:[email protected]), more the merrier, so these rats is paid and the whole place or all of these characteristics.[/color][/list]


          © 2012 YouTube, LLC
          Title: Comments: gracielalejandro's YouTube Channel
          Post by: Ursus on February 10, 2012, 10:07:32 PM
          YouTube user gracielalejandro appears to be a Programa Ibicuy parent whose son committed suicide, seemingly (if I'm interpreting these translations correctly) after having spent five years attending this program.

          Here's one of the comments (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39025&p=412950#p412950) s/he left on the YouTube clip "Programa Ibicuy (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39025&p=412947#p412947)" (previously posted above):

          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          @ provincianesca My son also committed suicide to get out of there. Never got a call from Ferreyra and his wife, completely ignored the fact that for 5 years to be promptly paid the fee and I kept everything I said. May God forgive them because my human limitations do not allow me.[/list][/list]

          And here's a comment (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39025&p=413046#p413045) s/he left on denunciaibicuy's YouTube Channel (previously posted just above):

          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          The lady of Uruguay, I want to tell you that my son has been in place for 5 years and out is suicide.[/list][/list]

          · · · · ·

          Well... here's a short exchange of comments (http://http://www.youtube.com/user/gracielalejandro/feed?filter=1) left on gracielalejandro's YouTube Channel:


          provincianesca · 3 months ago
          With the theme of Ibicuy not about to forgive or not ... my deepest sympathy and respeto.Muchos were duped by this killer, Villa Paranacito is hated and people will start legal action for multiple reasons (administrative and criminal) but I instead (if you have the resources) you would initiate legal action I saw that there are many others who died on the spot or out of there, there is no difference to the capabilities that can reach the person to have tolerance for torture and that is what leads many to explode out of there, I am not a lawyer I'm just a victim who survived but if I need to get the mask from fat slug is here I am.[/list]
          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          Thanks for your support. It is as you say the same for all disciplinary rules without prior assessment of each case. I do not live in Argentina and it's hard to get you started a lawsuit, well not know the other parents of boys who committed suicide. What hurts me most is the indifference of them to us, which shows me clearly that has locked the kids there for the money we pay them and nothing else. An animal or ignore it as they ignored us us at the death of my son.[/list]
          unacharruaenmiami · 3 months ago
          [email protected] (http://mailto:[email protected]) Miami 786 270 7328.[/color][/list]
          gracielalejandro · 3 months ago
          Thanks 1 I added you to my contacts. Accept me and we talked. Hug[/list]


          © 2012 YouTube, LLC
          Title: Re: yes, resurrection please...
          Post by: Anonymous on February 10, 2012, 11:50:55 PM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 12:01:12 AM
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          Post by: nunez on February 11, 2012, 12:07:55 AM
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          Title: Re: yes, resurrection please...
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 12:18:17 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ursus"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          If you come visit me, you better bring an army, not a lawyer,  bitch. You may come through the door horizontal, but you're going out vertical.

          I'll stab you till your dead you fucking piece of shit

          Quote me on that
          :eek:
          So... yer gonna raise him from the dead before you kill him? Or after?

          Promises of resurrection are rarely so... delicately put... :rofl:
          Yeah it's so funny when danny threatens to come to my house  :roflmao:

          You're all fucking morons here


          And, you're not fooling anyone Danny (horatifaggot)  cut the sock puppet bullshit



          I am not Danny for the hundredth time, so you can stop saying this repetitively, it sounds stupid. Nobody ever said we were coming to your house to threaten you ect....That is what you do, Wayne.
          Listen when we do come to you with the lawyer, you will meet me and you will know without a doubt I am not Danny.  
          It is funny Wayne because you act like a complete whackjob. What do you want people to do feel sorry for you. Wayne in case you forgot people are not convinced you even went to Elan.
          So stop pretending you even belong here.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          It's obvious this coward piece of shit isn't going to ever call the police. Why, because he knows the person they'll eventually throw in jail is him

          Danny Bennison (Horatio, Rururdoohioo) and all his cunting bitch sock puppets ain't shit. A fart in the wind, that whole family

          Anyway, iot's funny, with all the threads about him and me, that this is the one he chooses to flood with his bullshit.

          If by some miracle Juan does reopen Poland, and he's  stupid enough to hire that sack of shit, that'll just put him right where I can find him

          No fucking way that piece of shit will ever come near another kid


          I started this thread and you still have not told the truth about why you impersonated Juan on the Elan facebook site. Come on Wayner you can do it.

          Talk about Tinfoil hats, now we can use the term. Your post above qualifies using this phrase. So Waynoooo please strap on your Tin Tin Hat and get ready for a ride of a lifetime.
          Your schizophrenia is cranking up Waynoooo, take the meds before it's back down the rabbit hole.... :rofl:  
          Why the hell does this shit come from, Waynooo!!!
          Title: Re: yes, resurrection please...
          Post by: Ursus on February 11, 2012, 12:26:41 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ursus"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          If you come visit me, you better bring an army, not a lawyer,  bitch. You may come through the door horizontal, but you're going out vertical.

          I'll stab you till your dead you fucking piece of shit

          Quote me on that
          :eek:
          So... yer gonna raise him from the dead before you kill him? Or after?

          Promises of resurrection are rarely so... delicately put... :rofl:
          Yeah it's so funny when danny threatens to come to my house  :roflmao:

          You're all fucking morons here


          And, you're not fooling anyone Danny (horatifaggot)  cut the sock puppet bullshit
          Mmm. Ya know, Wayne... what I found "funny," or paradoxical, or whatever ya wanna call it, is that MOST folk, when delivering dire pronouncements of impending cancellation of someone's mortal rights to physical existence, generally refer to said person's entrance in the vertical (plane), and their exit in the horizontal... Jes sayin'...!
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 12:27:36 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
          :bump:



          by Horatio » Yesterday, 8:47 pm
          Wayne we will be coming to visit you for sure. I too personally want to see the knife of yours. You seem to be transfixed by it. You like to brag about how you stab people.
          You are so funny. One moment you are this gay pride panny boy and the next you are this tuff guy macho man ready to tear apart anybody. WTF!!!
          As far as your stabbing anybody that not ever going to happen. What you seem to forget we have already seen you, we have looked at you and you are not intimidating at all. Remember I told you, we had you investigated.
          You wrote a book about Danny, we wanted to know who you were. When are you going to tell people your real name?? Aye.......that's right. When????? Because we are sick and tired of waiting for you to get honest.
          You love to float around names Jeffrey Weintraub, Jerry Torres, Juan Ferreira, Rodrigo Fredeci, Arkom Phanaronke and then the one you don't want to say.

          Wayne you called Danny out for a fight, he will be in Rhode Island in July. This is 2-3 hrs from where you are in Queens. Come on this is your big chance dude. We can take you up to Federal Hill and you can explain to the pisians how you had something to do with the hit on Paul Castellano. My man, Wayne!!!! This is in his book Street Life, this guy writes about his involvement with the hit on Castellano. WTF!!!! Where are we, where is Francis Coppella, we need a producer/director herra!!!!
          What do you think because most of the peeps involved are dead and you have a fake name they can't find out who you are.
          You have absolutely no common sense at all.
          Title: Re: yes, resurrection please...
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 12:30:05 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 12:34:36 AM
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          Post by: nunez on February 11, 2012, 12:36:50 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 12:38:14 AM
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          Title: Re: yes, resurrection please...
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 12:42:58 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ursus"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ursus"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          If you come visit me, you better bring an army, not a lawyer,  bitch. You may come through the door horizontal, but you're going out vertical.

          I'll stab you till your dead you fucking piece of shit

          Quote me on that
          :eek:
          So... yer gonna raise him from the dead before you kill him? Or after?

          Promises of resurrection are rarely so... delicately put... :rofl:
          Yeah it's so funny when danny threatens to come to my house  :roflmao:

          You're all fucking morons here


          And, you're not fooling anyone Danny (horatifaggot)  cut the sock puppet bullshit
          Mmm. Ya know, Wayne... what I found "funny," or paradoxical, or whatever ya wanna call it, is that MOST folk, when delivering dire pronouncements of impending cancellation of mortal rights to physical existence, generally refer to an entrance in the vertical, and an exit in the horizontal... Jes sayin'...!
          So, I got it wrong in the heat of the moment.  Just saying

          Do you think it's funny that sack of shit keeps threatening to come to my house?

          And, yes, I'll kill him and anyone stupid enough to come here. Do you think it's cute that I have to even consider doing that?funny,


          Wayne when we come to see you with our lawyer we will talk about why you threatened to stab Danny.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 12:43:35 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          How the fuck do you molest your own sister?

          You were just born bad, weren't you?

          I honestly think you should kill yourself
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 12:55:49 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Ruaraidh"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
          :bump:



          by Horatio » Yesterday, 8:47 pm
          Wayne we will be coming to visit you for sure. I too personally want to see the knife of yours. You seem to be transfixed by it. You like to brag about how you stab people.
          You are so funny. One moment you are this gay pride panny boy and the next you are this tuff guy macho man ready to tear apart anybody. WTF!!!
          As far as your stabbing anybody that not ever going to happen. What you seem to forget we have already seen you, we have looked at you and you are not intimidating at all. Remember I told you, we had you investigated.
          You wrote a book about Danny, we wanted to know who you were. When are you going to tell people your real name?? Aye.......that's right. When????? Because we are sick and tired of waiting for you to get honest.
          You love to float around names Jeffrey Weintraub, Jerry Torres, Juan Ferreira, Rodrigo Fredeci, Arkom Phanaronke and then the one you don't want to say.

          Wayne you called Danny out for a fight, he will be in Rhode Island in July. This is 2-3 hrs from where you are in Queens. Come on this is your big chance dude. We can take you up to Federal Hill and you can explain to the pisians how you had something to do with the hit on Paul Castellano. My man, Wayne!!!! This is in his book Street Life, this guy writes about his involvement with the hit on Castellano. WTF!!!! Where are we, where is Francis Coppella, we need a producer/director herra!!!!
          What do you think because most of the peeps involved are dead and you have a fake name they can't find out who you are.
          You have absolutely no common sense at all.
          Whatever.

          Remember the bomb I told you I was going to drop?

          Alice confirmed it today on the phone

          The reason your family doesn't help or support you is because you sexually abused your sister, and that's the reason you were sent to Elan

          Suck on that asshole

          Alice says you're a real piece of shit, and she hates your guts

          She's actually very nice person. I told her the shit you're doing to Alan's name in OFFA, and she wasn't the least bit surprised

          Go away asshole

          Wayne is your Tin Hat on. We asked you to put it on didn't we. Mommy and Daddy is very disappointed that we could not keep you in Vitam but thats OK we let you burn down the house to settle the score. Though you did sell your fanny, you adorable panny. Mommy's so proud of my panny boy.
          I really wish you would get a job and MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE YOU SCAB!! OMG!!! I'm sorry Waynooo I lost it there for a second . I do like that name Waynooo, me thinks that nice Irish man gave you that name, Raud-Rod was his name, jeesh me so nasty.

          Tell Alice, Danny, said hi and BTW if you talked with Alice you must have also talked with Diane H and another gal by the name of Cherly. Just saying if you talked with Alice.
          Wayne, My Man, The Panny Man!!! Talking with people in Elan even though the mutha fucka never even went there. I say buuuuulllshit!!!!
          That's riiight!!!
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 01:08:26 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 01:15:27 AM
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          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          How the fuck do you molest your own sister?

          You were just born bad, weren't you?

          I honestly think you should kill yourself
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 10:58:54 AM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Yes stupid, when I told you ya had to hit space, or your shit woudn't post, I knew it was you then. The post was deleted. I told Susan to keep you in the dark

          Don't ever assume you're fooling me retard

          The best way to watch someone is to let them watch you

          Fuck off Leeroy  :cheers:
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Ruaraidh on February 11, 2012, 11:08:17 AM
          This is what Wayne does till early hours of the morning.....


          Wayne if it gets your friends and you a great deal of satisfaction fucking with people you think you know then have at it. I (Ruaraidh) could give a shit who is on what site...that is your speciality. You define yourself by who sites you are on.
          Please do us a favor save the space you waste here by telling people Danny is this and Danny is that.
          Who the fuck is pixal and who is Leeroy...?
          BTW..thanks for keeping us posted.... :rofl:  







          Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!

          Postby Wayne Kernochan » Today, 1:08 am
          Bring Diane over here to defend you then Danjo

          Not that fake profile (BTW we know you're Leeroy Strong, you misspelled Leroy stupid)

          Daniel was traveling that night on a train, because he sexually abused his sister. I heard the rumor, but Alice knows for sure
          I'm no longer here. My posts are gone so that I can purge that sick sadistic violent child molestor, Daniel Lee Bennison, phone # (404) 936-6141, of South Portland Street in Oklahoma City from my life.

          Rape is not sex, it's violence. Sex is the weapon. Danny isn't a pedophile. He did what he did because he is hateful and hurtful, and he believes he earned the right to inflict nightmares on others because his father raped and beat him.

          He admitted to raping Yvette Portella. There is no doubt he belongs in jail. He may never pay for what he did, but I will never stop trying to bring him to justice

          That's (404) 936-6141

          Anyone who has been stalked, harassed or threatened by Danny Bennison, please call The Oklahoma City Police Department. Non-Emergency Call 405-231-2121

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          Postby Wayne Kernochan » Today, 1:15 am
          Yes stupid, when I told you ya had to hit space, or your shit woudn't post, I knew it was you then. The post was deleted. I told Susan to keep you in the dark

          Don't ever assume you're fooling me retard

          The best way to watch someone is to let them watch you

          Fuck off Leeroy :cheers:
          I'm no longer here. My posts are gone so that I can purge that sick sadistic violent child molestor, Daniel Lee Bennison, phone # (404) 936-6141, of South Portland Street in Oklahoma City from my life.

          Rape is not sex, it's violence. Sex is the weapon. Danny isn't a pedophile. He did what he did because he is hateful and hurtful, and he believes he earned the right to inflict nightmares on others because his father raped and beat him.

          He admitted to raping Yvette Portella. There is no doubt he belongs in jail. He may never pay for what he did, but I will never stop trying to bring him to justice

          That's (404) 936-6141

          Anyone who has been stalked, harassed or threatened by Danny Bennison, please call The Oklahoma City Police Department. Non-Emergency Call 405-231-2121

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          Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!

          Postby Wayne Kernochan » Today, 1:16 am
          BTW you're banned from all the TTI sites again stupid

          Pixie is Rodrigo
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 11:29:47 AM
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          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Horatio on February 11, 2012, 12:20:23 PM
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
          And, you guys don't find it a little strange that as soon as the Sun Journal starts looking into this guy, Danny the Programmie comes over here denying he even exixts? Danny, the guy you all say was getting money to come here and fuck with Elan survivors when they were advocating to try and close it?

          Or, are you really that fooled by his sock puppets and his bullshit?
          :bump:


          Yeah Wayne we do....so please provide evidence that the Sun Journal is looking into this. Don't use Judy Myers please because you would be lying. We already asked here 2 days ago. Judy doesn't even really know who you are.

          So here we are again. Wayne lying about the real Juan Ferriera posting on the Elan site it was Wayne, Wayne using MuppetWhore his sock puppet to create a diversion in the conversation, Wayne still not calling IBcuy to verify that Juan did set up the Facebook account. Lies!!!!!
          Yep!! Please keep bumbling the post.
          Title: Re: I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
          Post by: Anonymous on February 11, 2012, 12:22:04 PM
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