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[ This Message was edited by: Jack1963 on 2004-08-01 15:24 ]

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Yes, I recognize your story for what it is. You are giving a textbook description of hypnogogia. Common term, "sleep paralysis."

This is not uncommon - it's a matter of missed timing by the brain when initiating sleep. Typically, people feel a presence and physical sensations, but are not able to move. They have semi-awareness of the room they are in, but interpret it as awareness. Also, They typically feel a presence, typically a frightening one, but not always.

It is also not uncommon for people to experience orgasm in some stages of sleep. Orgasm can occur during hypnogogic states.  

These sleep experiences are often interpreted as evidence of space alien abduction or ghost experiences. In past European and American culture, they were interpreted as demons - the incubi.

Your experience is wholly from your own brain. To interpret any differently only leaves you susceptible to more such experiences. The orgasm is nice, but it is better to recognize it for what it is. Nothing wrong with having an orgasm by yourself - millions of people do that every day!

Stating that you have sex with ghosts is nothing to brag about. It makes you look psychotic. Do you really want people to think that of you? Wouldn't you rather people be impressed with your intelligence and knowledge? Reality is much more exciting than silly ghost stories!

On 2004-03-12 15:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am a 40 year old woman who has on numerous occasions had sex with ghosts.  This is not a joke!



They always occur early in the morning, sometimes with my husband is sleeping beside me but usually I'm alone.  I am aware of being somewhere between asleep and awake.  (Though they have also visited me on occasion in my dreams.) I know where I am, what day it is, and that I am in a state of conciousness that will certainly mean a visit.  They alway enter through a door, and they always announce their presence in some fashion.



The ghost that visits me now lets me know he's here by rotating my limbs and sometimes my whole body around the bed.  Then he touches me and makes love to me in one form or another.  Sometimes there are more that one.  Sometimes they are gentle and sweet and other times they get a little rough.  I almost alway have an orgasm, but if they do something that scares me, they leave right away.



For awhile I was being visited by a ghost who would announce his presence by sliding his hand around the bed.  I could hear it and feel the pressure on the mattress.  Then I would be aware of an intense heat going up my legs to my abdomen.  The orgasm would be so intense and so complete, I would still be pulsating as I come to fully awake.  One time I opened my eyes when I felt the heat going up my legs, and I saw a black fog hovering in the middle of my bedroom.  This scared the hell out of me.  It disturbed me, so I got on the internet and read about Incubus.  I told my husband about it and we researched it together.  He is very supporting though admitted that he was not happy about sharing me with Incubus or anyone else.  I decided to take a stand the next time this partucular ghost visited me.  It was a bit of a struggle (he was a powerful force.)  Then a couple nights later, he came to me in my dream and we had a battle of sorts.  I recall looking at him determined not to let him scare me and a forceful wind was blowing through the room.  However, I have not been visited by that ghost again.  It gave me a sense of control.



The ghosts that visits me now is not as powerful.  I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.  I have to say I miss the intensity of this ghost.



I know many people will read this with disbelief, but I hope some people will recognize my story for what it is.  Or maybe someone has some insight as to what this means."

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I would love to collaborate, and I know a therapist who worked there who would. However, the threat of lawsuit is so scary. I hate this. I feel like I don't have any testosterone! They are scary, man!

On 2004-04-04 21:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"These staff stories are absolutely horrifying and I feel for each and every one of you.  How I wish parents could hear what goes on in these places from the perspective of counselors and therapists that no longer work in these hellish places.  Why don't you all hook up and collaborate on a book?  If you can get around the threat of lawsuits for "telling it like it is", and with the right literary agent, this book would be a bestseller right up there with the latest Steven King novel.

It's that nightmarish!!!!  Anyway, thanks for sharing and trying to get the truth out there. Like Ginger always says, "it takes a 1,000 voices"



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