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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Who cares in the Middle East what Obama says?
« on: July 29, 2011, 08:18:40 PM »
In the middle east... they hate you. Beyond your most wild imagination. These are people who burn churches to the ground... kidnap, rape, and kill Christians. The non-believers have ceased to exist.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Peace, Love, Unity and Having Fun. And Killin'.
« on: July 29, 2011, 07:59:16 PM »
The Gulf States are supporters of Al Qaeda.

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Tacitus' Realm / Who is Really Distorting Islam?
« on: November 27, 2010, 08:18:52 PM »
Who is Really Distorting Islam?

 By Daniel Greenfield  Monday, November 8, 2010


    “All of us recognize that this great religion (Islam), in the hands of a few extremists, has been distorted.” —Barack Hussein Obama

    “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all!”—Ayatollah Khomeini

While we now know that a young Obama rebelled against his mother and attended Koran classes, he clearly  didn’t attend nearly enough of them. Or the Harvard genius is back to playing dumb.

According to Obama, and so much of the political establishment, the Koran is being distorted by a “few extremists” somewhere who are trying to convince the billion peaceful Muslims, that it actually promotes violence. But first a few obvious questions.

How many exactly is a “few”? Are we talking about a few dozen, a few thousand, a few million? Naturally Obama and the Islam apologists never really address that question. Because it is a rather inconvenient question. Since Muslims are defined by religious streams and mosque attendance, it should be easy enough to come up with a realistic figure.

We could start with the population of Saudi Arabia, which ranks at some 25 million. That is quite a “few” extremists right there. Then there’s Pakistan with a population of 166 million. That’s a few more, right there. Of course officially both countries are allies of the United States and have nothing to do with terrorism. Even when it’s funded by their own governments.

So let’s move on to a slightly more definitive figure. In 2006, the Palestinian Arabs held an election. 440,000 of them voted for Hamas. A terrorist organization. In the 2009 Lebanon election, a coalition that included Hezbollah and the Baath Party won over 800,000 votes. So certainly we know that there are more than 1 million “misunderstanders” of Islam out there. And that’s out of a tiny portion of the Muslim world.

But as to the next question, is the vast majority of Muslims and their mosques and clergy are peaceful, then how can those who “distort its vision” ever be a real threat? If there is nothing of violence in Islam, then what exactly can they do? Re-edit the Koran? Insert verses that don’t exist there. But when asked about Jihad, even Barack Hussein Obama is forced to backpedal and say, that it has a lot of meanings in Islam. But if Islam is peaceful, then how could there be a non-peaceful meaning at all?

    “Well, the phrase jehad has a lot of meanings within Islam. It is subject to lot of different interpretations.”—Barack Hussein Obama

    “Jihad means the conquest of all non-Muslim territories. Such a war may well be declared after the formation of an Islamic government worthy of that name, at the direction of the Imam or under his orders. It will then be the duty of every able-bodied adult male to volunteer for this war of conquest, the final aim of which is to put Qur’anic law in power from one end of the earth to the other.”—Ayatollah Khomeini

Islamic apologists love to hide behind phrases like “Jihad has many meanings”

Islamic apologists love to hide behind phrases like “Jihad has many meanings”. We could also say that “Mein Kampf” has many possible meanings and interpretations in German. It could refer to a struggle getting out of bed in the morning, or the struggle to promote world conquest and genocide. While in Islam, Jihad can mean the struggle to get out of bed in time for morning prayers, it also can and does frequently mean the struggle to promote world conquest and genocide.

The Koran is fairly straightforward about these things. It uses Jihad to clearly and unambiguously mean fighting non-Muslims. To pretend otherwise, is like pretending that Mein Kampf was probably written about Hitler’s struggle to get through art school.
Nazism wasn’t built on Hitler’s art school efforts, and Islam wasn’t built on Mohammed rising early to pray to the dunes

Nazism wasn’t built on Hitler’s art school efforts, and Islam wasn’t built on Mohammed rising early to pray to the dunes. They were both built on war and conquest. Without war and conquest, Islam would have been nothing more than another obscure cult of interest only to National Geographic photographers. With Jihad, it became a horrifying wave of terror and death that destroyed cultures, subjugated peoples and turned daily life into a horror for countless millions.

    “We affirm that Hindu or Muslim or Christian or Jew or any other religion; we all need to treat each other with respect and dignity”—Barack Hussein Obama

    “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”—Koran 5:51

Here Obama is arguing with the Koran. And it is impossible to win an argument about the nature of Islam with the Koran.

Obama might like to pretend that the Koran is about how snowflakes, puppies and unicorns… but it’s a xenophobic creed which actively promotes hate toward non-Muslims. Islam does not pretend that non-Muslims are the equal of Muslims, not legally or socially. It imprisons them in ghettos, treats their lives as worthless and enslaves them at will.

The best evidence of this is the status of non-Muslims in the Muslim world. While the number of Muslims in the West continues to grow, the number of Christians and Jews in the Muslim world continues to shrink. Most Jews have fled the Muslim world. They are even fleeing Western countries with large numbers of Muslim residents. The Vatican recently held a synod to discuss the vanishing Christian communities of the Middle East.

If Islam were tolerant, then it would play host to thriving Christian, Jewish, Bahai and Zoroastrian communities. Instead it has put the boot down on them. Not because a few extremists in a cave hijacked a tolerant religion, but because this is the real face of Islam. This is what Islam has always been like.

    “The overwhelming majority (of Muslims) want peace, justice, fairness and tolerance.”—Barack Hussein Obama

    “Convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don’t, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life.” —Caliph Abu Bakr, Mohammed’s Successor

Who is really distorting Islam? Is Barack Hussein Obama correct that Islam’s vision is being distorted by a few men in caves somewhere, or is Obama the “distorter” of Islam?

Even a brief reading of Islamic history makes the answer all too obvious. It is not Al Qaeda that is distorting Islam, but Obama. And not Obama alone. Liberal elites in the West have firmly dedicated themselves to misrepresenting and distorting Islam, in order to continue Islamic immigration into the West. To filling America, Europe, Canada, Australia and all the rest up, until every little boy is named Mohammed, and every little girl has to cover her face, or have acid thrown in it.

Is the former self-proclaimed “Jakarta street kid” in the White House really ignorant about what Islam represents, or is he playing a double game. It does not take a genius to simply look at the Muslim world, and compare the average level of human rights in it, with the average level of human rights in Christian and Jewish countries, and come to some rather obvious conclusions.
But while liberals assail Judaism and Christianity, condemn America and Israel, their choirs of academics and politicians sing the praises of Islam

But while liberals assail Judaism and Christianity, condemn America and Israel, their choirs of academics and politicians sing the praises of Islam. If you believe them, then there is nothing wrong with Islam. Just a few black sheep like Al-Awlaki and some bigoted Islamophobes in America. But if that’s the case, then why is the Muslim world so ugly? Why does it mistreat women and minorities? Why does it have the state sponsored murder of gay men? Why does it send Christians to reeducation camps? Why does it adopt the Mein Kampf as a second Koran and preach the murder of Jews?

There is only one answer. There is something rotten in Islam. And for all the poison that Obama may pour into our ears, it is he who is distorting Islam.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/29656

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: You might be a Muslim if……
« on: November 27, 2010, 07:48:15 PM »
#1 Should have read...

You are a Muslim if you worship a Pedophile.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Imagine...
« on: November 20, 2010, 07:55:49 PM »

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Imagine...
« on: November 03, 2010, 07:24:17 PM »
In fact, if everyone just went along with the Beatles... we'd get along just fine.

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Tacitus' Realm / Imagine...
« on: November 03, 2010, 07:13:53 PM »
For Eternity we have taught our children to believe this or that, to follow a certain religion, or Nationalism, or Racism... or we condemn them to hell. For Eternity. Perhaps instead we should do the opposite. Tell them to get together for all of our differences, and then face hell later on.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Letter to a whiny young Democrat
« on: November 03, 2010, 06:47:27 PM »
Quote from: "Shadyacres"
Some of what we are up against;

http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/ ... ug-addicts


These people are evil.


No way... Universal Health Care is a good thing.

The National Government loves you...

Big Smiley here.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Letter to a whiny young Democrat
« on: November 03, 2010, 06:40:58 PM »
Quote from: "heretik"
Quote from: "Shadyacres"
I agree, well said.  I think that because most of Obama's voters were younger, they are still rather impressionable.  They succumbed to the unrelenting and heavily funded onslaught of advertising and propaganda. I am hoping that in two years they will have realized how they were duped and they will be ANGRY.  NOTHING will happen in the next two years, period.  The republican controlled house will now set about trying to undo the small amount of progress the Obama administration has made so far.  They will fail, Obama has the veto, so, gridlock.

I don't see how anyone here, with the exception of Whooter, would EVER vote republican.  The Reagan's and the entire Bush family shilled for Straight and its descendants, and were handsomely rewarded by the industry in campaign contributions.  WWASP was a major contributor to Mitt Romney.  Republicans, more than Democrats, seem to believe that the end justifies the means, just like the programs we were all in.  They, as a party, believe in torturing people, spying on their own citizens, legislating their own version of morality, waging wars on false pretenses to obtain optimal position for oil acquisition, etc.....
How much money has Dick Cheney's old company Halliburton made off of that illegal war?  

The Democrats may be lame, but I don't think they are outright criminal as a rule.  I cannot say that about Republicans.

Well then I'll say it for you, the Republicans are outright criminals and liars. It will take another 2 years for the people to wake up again. I just hope they stop thinking the Prez is "GOD" and he grants prayers on a whim.
Sorry, for being so forward.


Wake Up, again?

Yep... cause like they were awake.

What were they awake about?

Eventually reality hits home. Don't wait for them to wake up again...OK?

You have to wait for the memory to erase itself and then... 20 years from now idiots will reign once more.

You can only fool people once.

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Tacitus' Realm / American Voters reject Islamic Law... Muslims to appeal
« on: November 03, 2010, 06:20:59 PM »
Oklahoma Voters Ban Judges From Using Islamic Law

Published November 02, 2010

Associated Press


Oklahoma voters have approved a measure that would forbid judges from considering international law or Islamic law when deciding cases.

Republican Rex Duncan, the sponsor of the measure, called it a "pre-emptive strike" designed to close the door on activist judges "legislating from the bench or using international law or Sharia law."

Members of the Muslim community called the question an attack on Islam and some of them said they are prepared to file a lawsuit challenging the measure.

© 2010 FOX News Network, LLC. All rights reserved.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11 ... lamic-law/

 ::deadhorse::

Oh My... What hateful people would be against Islamic Law?

Terrible.

This is exactly like Arizona in that they want legal people in their State. How hateful? Of course Mexico and every other country in the world would incarcerate an illegal who has entered their country... Not the U.S... We are better than that and have a whole political party who wants this nation utterly destroyed...

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: Islam’s Invasion Ideology...
« on: November 03, 2010, 06:04:13 PM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Shit, start a "I hate all Muslims" thread if you don't want to hear any disagreement.


Disagreement... As long as it is based on reality, I'm all for it.

Please... Disagree.

There may be good Muslims, but there is no good Islam.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: JIHAD IN NUMBERS...
« on: October 31, 2010, 11:17:24 PM »
Islam is the most evil SATANIC ideology that the world has ever faced.  It must be completely and utterly destroyed.

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Tacitus' Realm / Re: JIHAD IN NUMBERS...
« on: October 31, 2010, 11:12:21 PM »
I Have a question for the forum...

Obama is heading to Indonesia. For a  visit.

How many churches have been burned to the ground in Indonesia... Just in the past year?

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Tacitus' Realm / JIHAD IN NUMBERS...
« on: October 31, 2010, 10:50:43 PM »
JIHAD IN NUMBERS
By arabracismislamofascism

ISLAMIC JIHAD IN NUMBERS

Tears of Jihad
These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.

Africa

Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.

120 million Africans

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Christians

The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have:

60 million Christians

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Hindus

Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”

80 million Hindus

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Buddhists

Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam); everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.]

10 million Buddhists

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Jews

Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power.

This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pag ... -of-jihad/

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Islam has killed as many as 200 million Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, and Hindus. (Nov. 2000)
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/nov_ ... _chris.htm

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Muslims massacred in 1146 over 100,000 Jews in Fez and in Marrakesh 120,000.
http://books.google.com/books?id=mYjc8HHWDxMC&pg=PA123
http://books.google.com/books?id=iKBwZ9Y8j8QC&pg=PA49

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Negationism in India: concealing the record of Islam
Koenraad Elst – [Voice of India, 1992] 1992 – 176 pages [Page 27]
Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindu skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by … The Bahmani sultans (1347-1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100000 Hindus every year. In 1399, Teimur killed 100,000 captives in a single day…
http://books.google.com/books?&id=mBEcA ... ni+sultans

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The Ikhwan waged a jihad against other Muslims in Arabia, including Sharif Hussein of Mecca, who established the Hashemite dynasty that ruled first in Arabia and then in Syria, Iraq and Transjordan. As many as 400,000 Arabs were killed or wounded in these campaigns.
http://www.jcpa.org/art/nypost-dg6apr03.htm

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In the second half of the 19th century Moslems began to feel the force of the Western colonial threat. In the 1860 massacre in Damascus, Moslems slaughtered more than 10,000 Christians. In Aleppo, Christians were butchered as well.
http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/Show ... i-Semitism

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Genocide: A Comprehensive Introduction – Page 150
 Adam Jones – [Taylor & Francis] 2010
[ISBN 041548619X, 9780415486194] 680 pages
A “Christian genocide” framing acknowledges the historic claims of the Assyrian and Greek peoples, and the movements now … In Thea Halo’s estimation, “Armenian deaths were estimated at 1.5 million. According to figures compiled by by the Greek government in collaboration with the Patrirachate…
http://books.google.com/books?id=BqdVudSuTRIC&pg=PA150

Congressional Record – Page 6450
 - (April 22, 1998)
In addition to those killed, an estimated 500000 Armenians were deported from the Ottoman Empire. … Mr. Speaker, today we remember the Armenian Genocide, and honor the memory of the 1.5 million Armenians who died between 1915 and 1923 …
http://books.google.com/books?id=956nQAD4DZAC&pg=PA6450

Encyclopedia of war crimes and genocide – Page 26
 Leslie Alan Horvitz, Christopher Catherwood – 2006 – 582 pages – Preview
Estimates of the total number of Armenians who died as a result of the massacres and deportations vary, ranging up to 1.5 million out of a prewar Armenian population estimated at 1.8 million. An Ottoman interior minister has …
 http://books.google.com/books?id=AHpFp2nsGyUC&pg=PA26



A lethal combination of labor brigades, internal deportations and massacres conducted throughout Anatolian Turkey resulted in the death of 1,400,000 Greeks.
The Annihilation of the Anatolian Greeks
…The Ottoman Empire, famed by its harems and janissaries, was founded at the start of the fourteenth century and at its zenith occupied Anatolia, the Middle East and much of south-eastern Europe to the Caucasus. By the end of the 15th century, the considerable Greek population of Asia Minor was under Ottoman rule…
http://www.greek-genocide.org/index1.html

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Despite massive photographic and documental evidence and substantial corroborative personal testimonies, the Turkish government has never acknowledged its genocide of approximately 2.75 million Christians from 1894 to 1923. The victims were predominantly Armenians but included many Greek and some Protestant believers as well.
http://www.ashevilletribune.com/ashevil ... %20RTF.htm

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1971 – Sheikh Mujib arrested and taken to West Pakistan. In exile, Awami League leaders proclaim the independence of the province of East Pakistan on 26th March. The new country is called Bangladesh. Just under 10 million Bangladeshis flee to India as troops from West Pakistan are defeated with Indian assistance. [...]
2000 December – Bangladesh expels Pakistani diplomat for comments on the 1971 war. The diplomat had put the number of dead at 26,000, whereas Bangladesh says nearly three million were killed. Bangladesh wants Pakistan to apologise for alleged genocide it says Pakistani forces were guilty of during the war.  
Sheikh Hasina’s Awami League was defeated in 2001
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_ ... 160896.stm

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Arafat and the PLO plunged Lebanon into massacres, rape, mutilation, rampages of looting and killings. Out of a population of 3.2 million, some 40,000 or more people had been killed, 100,000 wounded, 5,000 permanently maimed.
http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/hob ... amour.html

Syria and the Palestinians have destroyed Lebanon. Syria and the Palestinians are responsible for the death of 300,000 Lebanese.
http://www.free-lebanon.com/Editorials/ ... ives2.html

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Fear God and the Shadow of the Muslim Sword – Page 20 Pat MR Pat – [AuthorHouse,] 2008 – 208 pages

The Iran-Iraq War is a lesson in the brutality of the Muslim Sunni-Shiite conflict. The religious leaders of Iran rounded up more than 10000 Sunni children and walked them barefoot in the front lines of their armies in order to clear the mine fields. Saddam Hussein, a member of the minority Sunni sect that ruled Iraq, moved hundreds of thousands of Arab Shiite men and boys to the front lines with little or no arms, to face the onslaught of the Persian Shiite army of Iran. Estimates of casualties on both sides of the war place the figure above 2 million.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LTHa-xlVcZ4C&pg=PA20

The Iran-Iraq War
No one is sure of the total casualties during the Iran-Iraq war, but estimates range from 500,000 to 1 million dead, 1-2 million wounded, and more than 80,000 prisoners. There were approximately 2.5 million refugees, and whole cities were destroyed. The financial cost is estimated at a minimum of $200 billion.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... niraq.html

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Indonesia: 700 churches attacked in past decade
  October 26, 2010
Some 700 Catholic and Protestant churches have been attacked in Indonesia over the past decade, according to the Indonesian Christian Communication Forum. Between October 12 and October 17, a Catholic parish was attacked, another was threatened with attack, and a Protestant church was burned down.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/hea ... oryid=8057

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FRONTLINE/WORLD .  Sudan – The Quick and the Terrible . Facts and …Since the 1983 start of the civil war, more than 4 million people have been displaced, and an estimated 2 million have died.
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stori ... facts.html

Fragile peace may unravel in Southern Sudan
By David McKenzie and Ingrid Formanek, CNN | December 8, 2009
…A rare sense of optimism enveloped Walgak and other southern parts of Sudan after a 2005 treaty ended a 21-year-long north-south civil war that killed 2 million people and forced about 4 million others from their homes.
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-08/worl ... s=PM:WORLD

Interview With George Clooney – CNN.com – Transcripts
Oct 14, 2010 … There was a war here that ended in 2005, with a peace agreement …. Well, 2.5 million people died in the last war between the north and south that ended in 2005. ….. CLOONEY: Take two minutes. It’s amazing the effect of one person’s voice. …. KING: George, we think of Darfur, we think of you. …
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... kl.01.html



Insurgents kill two in Thai south October 31, 2009

Oct. 31, 2009
AFP
SUSPECTED Islamic insurgents shot and killed two people and wounded three others in a bomb blast in Thailand’s troubled Muslim-majority south, police said.
Gunmen broke into a house in Yala province and shot dead a 16-year-old Buddhist girl, also wounding her 29-year-old husband, they said….

More than 3900 people have died in shootings, bomb blasts, beheadings and crucifixions since a separatist insurgency erupted in Thailand’s southern provinces bordering Malaysia in January 2004.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-wo ... -hqpd.html

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Hannity – Monday, Sep 13, 2010 – mReplay Livedash TV Transcript:
Judith Miller: 00:29:05 >> With the small minority are the extremists.
Ilario Pantano 00:29:09 >> Islam minority has been responsible for 500,000 deaths since nine 11 — since 9/11.
00:29:17 Egypt, spain, bali to baghdad, radical islamists have been blowing themselves.
http://www.livedash.com/transcript/hann ... 10/297258/

The Election and the Muslim Controversy | FoxNews.com
Oct 25, 2010 … By Bill O’Reilly.
[...]
Listen to these stats: Since the attack on Sept. 11, 2001, more than 40,000 people have been killed by Muslim extremists worldwide, the result of more than 17,000 attacks. And we’re not even counting the American troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Forty thousand human beings dead because of Muslim terror activity.

In addition, since 9/11, the USA has spent more than $1 trillion combating Muslim terror threats, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. $1 trillion in less than 10 years. And you’re telling me there isn’t a Muslim problem in the world?

Many Americans also remember celebrations after the 9/11 attacks. To be fair, they were brief and mostly Palestinian-driven, but the images are indelible.

So there is no question that most Americans are a bit uneasy about the turbulence in the Muslim world. That may not be fair, but it’s reality.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/t ... ontroversy



Mansur: Ignoring Muslim-on-Muslim Violence Undercuts U.S. …
Jun 15, 2010 …Muslim-on-Muslim Genocide

Few Americans realize that the most victims of Islamism have been Muslims, Mansur argues. As an example, the Algerian civil war that began in 1992, killed more than 150,000 people in a fight pitting the nation’s military regime against Islamist radicals. In Darfur, estimates range from 200,000 to 500,000 dead and millions more driven from their homes.

In East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), an estimated 500,000 to 1 million people were slaughtered in 1971 by the rampaging Pakistani Army. Mansur refers to it as “one of the great genocides that Muslims committed against Muslims.”

In this case, “the Pakistani military was killing their own citizens, and none of these people, by the way, have been brought to [judgment.]” The perpetrators of these crimes are “still running around in the West,” Mansur said. “So you see the barbarity…the savagery, with which a Muslim state treats its own population.”

In Mansur’s view, The East Pakistan genocide bears disturbing similarities to today’s events in Darfur. “Half a million or more people have been killed in western Sudan, and there is not a peep about that,” Mansur said. “There’s a preoccupation, whenever the issue of violence or ethnic cleansing and war crimes…are talked about – the West is focused on the Arab-Israeli conflict.”

But groups like CAIR show little interest in discussing the mass murder of Muslims in Darfur, Pakistan or anywhere else. According to Mansur, when the topic is raised, Islamists typically assert that the figures have been “inflated” by “enemies of the Muslims” such as Hindus or Zionists.

“In all of these cases, there is not a whit of taking responsibility, ” Mansur said. Instead of using the Arab-Israeli conflict as a way to put pressure on Israel, the international community should take action to bring to justice “these criminals who were responsible for the genocide, whether it is in Darfur or Pakistan.”

“There is no statute of limitation…for crimes against humanity,” he noted.

Mansur said he sees some signs of positive change in Islamabad’s response to the recent wave of terrorist attacks by the Taliban. The reality of suicide bombings in Pakistan’s major cities is making it increasingly difficult for government officials and intellectuals to argue that terrorism results from India’s machinations or “blowback” from the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Pakistani elites are coming to the realization that their jihadist terror problem is homegrown. A growing number of voices are acknowledging “that we have to take responsibility, that [jihadism] is what we have nurtured and created,” Mansur said. “I see that as a hopeful sign. I think that if Pakistan is going to be saved from its own tendency to self-destruction, that these voices have to be reinforced and given support, which means the building of a civil society and the downgrading of the military side.”
http://www.investigativeproject.org/200 ... m-violence



July 3, 2008
Jihad by the Numbers

Edward Cline

In his masterful second volume study of Hitler, Hitler, 1936-1945: Nemesis, Ian Kershaw discusses a phenomenon called “working towards the Führer,” in which every Nazi Party organization, member and office automatically, with little or no prompting or prodding by Hitler or his inner circle, worked to realize the ends and policies articulated by Hitler before and after he rose to power in 1933. It was automatic, because to disagree with or have reservations about a single, even minor aspect of Nazi ideology was to court reprimand, censure, dismissal, or even death. Agreement with those ends and policies was nearly a secondary motivation behind any Party member’s actions. He was compelled to act, regardless of the consequences. The ideology commanded it, and the Führer’s will and vision were irresistible, because there was little or no self to resist them.

As Party members who disagreed or expressed reservations were dismissed, or abandoned the Party, fled, committed suicide, or were murdered, monsters of the first rank filled the vacuum to formulate and enact policies that more completely “worked towards the Führer,” monsters such as Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Göring, Joachim von Ribbentrop, and Joseph Goebbels. When all the checks within the Party against total irrationality in domestic and foreign policies were removed or fell into disrepute, total irrationality took over totally.

But the average Party member strived to satisfy Hitler, regardless of how minor or major the action and regardless if it stood to be acknowledged or rewarded. To be a true, loyal, above-suspicion Nazi meant the near total surrender of one’s ego, mind and self, and to substitute them with Hitler’s own.

Of course, an Ellsworth Toohey might say that the joke was on the rank-and-file Nazi: he would claim that Hitler was essentially selfless, and that what little mind Hitler possessed was founded on what he thought his followers and “the people” wanted and expected of him as prophet and dictator. Ayn Rand, in The Fountainhead, describes that phenomenon through Toohey:

    “…A world of obedience and of unity. A world where the thought of each man will not be his own, but an attempt to guess the thought in the brain of his neighbor, who’ll have no thought of his own but an attempt to guess the thought of the next neighbor who’ll have no thought – and so on…around the globe. Since all must serve all. A world in which man will not work for so innocent an incentive as money, but for that headless monster – prestige. The approval of his fellows – their good opinion – the opinion of men who’ll be allowed to hold no opinion. An octopus, all tentacles and no brain….An average drawn upon zeroes….” (1).

It is no accident or fluke of history that Islamists – Hamas, Hezbollah, Ahmadinejad, Saudi Wahhabists, the whole ménage of Islamists and Jihadists — admire both Hitler and Nazism. Their hatred of Jews and Israel is merely one facet of that pathology. As Nazism required the complete submission of the individual to Party ideology and an unthinking, unwavering deference to Hitler, Islam requires the complete submission of the individual to Islam and an unthinking, unwavering deference to Allah and Mohammed. Islamists have long recognized that both the method and the ends of Nazism were in complete agreement and practical accord with their own. The “mechanics” of a functioning Islam differ in no fundamental way from the “mechanics” of a functioning Nazism or any other brand of total collectivism, as described by Toohey above. (2)

(One historical note: Kershaw points out that Hitler once entertained the idea of solving the “Jewish Question” by helping to establish a Jewish state in Palestine, where all German and other European Jews would be forcibly “relocated” and presumably – hopefully – perish in a wasteland of desert and hostile Arabs. He dismissed the idea because he feared that such a state could possibly become a political adversary dedicated to destroying Germany. Historically, the ironic joke is on Hitler. He destroyed Germany and the Jews turned the wasteland into a productive, prosperous garden.)

With that in mind, here is a set of significant statistics forwarded to me by a friend. It charts the progression of Islamic Jihad, both soft and hard methods, whose purpose is to establish a global caliphate, especially in the West.

It begins by stating:

    “Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.”

I would disagree. It is definitely a religion and a political system combined. Any attempt to “separate” mosque and state would emasculate Islam. I have argued this point in past commentaries and will not dwell on it here. And cults, if not opposed by reason and kept by it on the far fringes of a civilized society, have a tendency to become religions that may become state policies. Ecology was once a “cult.” Today we have the Environmental Protection Agency.

It goes on to state:

    “Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.”

Or a mask, or a ruse. But no one should doubt how seriously Islamists and Muslims in general take the religious component. Islam is a barbaric but fully integrated system, perhaps more lethally integrated than was Nazism.

    “Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’”

I would defend anyone’s right to believe in Islam. The question is: How could one truly practice Islam without declaring Jihad on others? After a Muslim has won the “internal struggle” or Jihad within himself, the next step is to wage it against all others. To refrain from that part of Jihad is to risk the accusation of being a slacker or pseudo-Muslim. From the first stage to the last, all such effort constitutes “working towards the Prophet and Allah.”

    “When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agreed to ‘the reasonable’ Muslims demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source: CIA: The World Fact Book, 2007).

    “As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country it will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone….”

Here is where it becomes interesting. Note throughout the exponential scale of Islamic influence as the percentage of Muslim population per country increases. Comments in square brackets are my corrective interjections.

United States: 1.0
Australia: 1.5
Canada: 1.9
China: 1.0-2.0
Italy: 1.5
Norway: 1.8

    “At 2% and 3% they [Muslims] begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.”

Denmark: 2.0
Germany: 3.7
United Kingdom: 2.7
Spain: 4.0
Italy: 4.6

    “From 5% on they [Muslims] exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (“clean” by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves – along with threats for failure to comply (United States).”

France: 8.0
Philippines: 5.0
Sweden: 5.0
Switzerland: 4.3
The Netherlands: 5.5
Trinidad & Tobago: 5.8

    “At this point, they [Muslims] will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, or Islamic law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    “When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris – car burning). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam, Denmark – Mohammed cartoons, murder of Theo van Gogh).”

Guyana: 10.0
India: 13.4
Israel: 16.0
Kenya: 10.0
Russia: 10.0-15.0

The one anomaly in this set of statistics is Israel, which has not experienced uprisings and threats of violence. Its Arab or Muslim population enjoys equal political rights with Jewish Israelis. The suicide bombings and rocket attacks that have killed hundreds have been perpetrated by outsiders.

“After reaching 20% [of a population] expect hair-trigger rioting, Jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia: 32.8

    “After 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:”

Bosnia: 40.0
Chad: 53.1
Lebanon: 59.7

    “From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and jizya, the tax placed on [conquered] infidels:”

Albania: 70.0
Malaysia: 60.4
Qatar: 77.5
Sudan: 70.0

“After 80%, expect state-run ethnic cleansing and genocide:”

Bangladesh: 83.0
Egypt: 90.0
Gaza: 98.7
Indonesia: 86.1
Iran: 98.0
Iraq: 97.0
Jordan: 92.0
Morocco: 98.7
Pakistan: 97.0
Palestine: 99.0
Syria: 90.0
Tajikistan: 90.0
Turkey: 99.8
United Arab Emirates: 96.0

I question the inclusion of “Palestine” in this set. “Palestine” simply means space occupied by stateless “Palestinians” in Gaza and the West Bank, and is the name of the state which Islamists wish to replace Israel, once it is destroyed. Turkey, after decades of having a secular, non-religious government, is beginning to turn “religious,” and seems to be yearning for the kind of Muslim government that cleansed the country in 1915 of non-Muslim Armenians in a genocide that predates the Holocaust.

    “100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – the Islamic House of Peace’ [more correctly, dar-al-Islam, or Land of Islam]. There is supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim.”

Afghanistan: 100.0
Saudi Arabia: 100.0
Somalia: 100.0
Yemen: 99.9

“Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    “‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.’ Leon Uris, The Haj.

    “It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

    “Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.”

Hammond’s book is sponsored by the Frontline Fellowship, a Christian organization, and the book itself was published by Christian Liberty Books. The Frontline website contains several endorsements of the book by clerics and missionaries. The quoted paragraphs above were “adapted” from Hammond’s book (by whom, is unknown), and not very professionally. The statistics themselves were compiled by the CIA and used in the book.

The first paragraph of the Frontline ad for the book reads:

In his masterful second volume study of Hitler, Hitler, 1936-1945: Nemesis, Ian Kershaw discusses a phenomenon called “working towards the Führer,” in which every Nazi Party organization, member and office automatically, with little or no prompting or prodding by Hitler or his inner circle, worked to realize the ends and policies articulated by Hitler before and after he rose to power in 1933. It was automatic, because to disagree with or have reservations about a single, even minor aspect of Nazi ideology was to court reprimand, censure, dismissal, or even death. Agreement with those ends and policies was nearly a secondary motivation behind any Party member’s actions. He was compelled to act, regardless of the consequences. The ideology commanded it, and the Führer’s will and vision were irresistible, because there was little or no self to resist them.

As Party members who disagreed or expressed reservations were dismissed, or abandoned the Party, fled, committed suicide, or were murdered, monsters of the first rank filled the vacuum to formulate and enact policies that more completely “worked towards the Führer,” monsters such as Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Göring, Joachim von Ribbentrop, and Joseph Goebbels. When all the checks within the Party against total irrationality in domestic and foreign policies were removed or fell into disrepute, total irrationality took over totally.

But the average Party member strived to satisfy Hitler, regardless of how minor or major the action and regardless if it stood to be acknowledged or rewarded. To be a true, loyal, above-suspicion Nazi meant the near total surrender of one’s ego, mind and self, and to substitute them with Hitler’s own.

Of course, an Ellsworth Toohey might say that the joke was on the rank-and-file Nazi: he would claim that Hitler was essentially selfless, and that what little mind Hitler possessed was founded on what he thought his followers and “the people” wanted and expected of him as prophet and dictator. Ayn Rand, in The Fountainhead, describes that phenomenon through Toohey:
“…A world of obedience and of unity. A world where the thought of each man will not be his own, but an attempt to guess the thought in the brain of his neighbor, who’ll have no thought of his own but an attempt to guess the thought of the next neighbor who’ll have no thought – and so on…around the globe. Since all must serve all. A world in which man will not work for so innocent an incentive as money, but for that headless monster – prestige. The approval of his fellows – their good opinion – the opinion of men who’ll be allowed to hold no opinion. An octopus, all tentacles and no brain….An average drawn upon zeroes….” (1).

It is no accident or fluke of history that Islamists – Hamas, Hezbollah, Ahmadinejad, Saudi Wahhabists, the whole ménage of Islamists and Jihadists — admire both Hitler and Nazism. Their hatred of Jews and Israel is merely one facet of that pathology. As Nazism required the complete submission of the individual to Party ideology and an unthinking, unwavering deference to Hitler, Islam requires the complete submission of the individual to Islam and an unthinking, unwavering deference to Allah and Mohammed. Islamists have long recognized that both the method and the ends of Nazism were in complete agreement and practical accord with their own. The “mechanics” of a functioning Islam differ in no fundamental way from the “mechanics” of a functioning Nazism or any other brand of total collectivism, as described by Toohey above. (2)

(One historical note: Kershaw points out that Hitler once entertained the idea of solving the “Jewish Question” by helping to establish a Jewish state in Palestine, where all German and other European Jews would be forcibly “relocated” and presumably – hopefully – perish in a wasteland of desert and hostile Arabs. He dismissed the idea because he feared that such a state could possibly become a political adversary dedicated to destroying Germany. Historically, the ironic joke is on Hitler. He destroyed Germany and the Jews turned the wasteland into a productive, prosperous garden.)

With that in mind, here is a set of significant statistics forwarded to me by a friend. It charts the progression of Islamic Jihad, both soft and hard methods, whose purpose is to establish a global caliphate, especially in the West.

It begins by stating:
“Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.”

I would disagree. It is definitely a religion and a political system combined. Any attempt to “separate” mosque and state would emasculate Islam. I have argued this point in past commentaries and will not dwell on it here. And cults, if not opposed by reason and kept by it on the far fringes of a civilized society, have a tendency to become religions that may become state policies. Ecology was once a “cult.” Today we have the Environmental Protection Agency.

It goes on to state:
“Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.”

Or a mask, or a ruse. But no one should doubt how seriously Islamists and Muslims in general take the religious component. Islam is a barbaric but fully integrated system, perhaps more lethally integrated than was Nazism.
“Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’”

I would defend anyone’s right to believe in Islam. The question is: How could one truly practice Islam without declaring Jihad on others? After a Muslim has won the “internal struggle” or Jihad within himself, the next step is to wage it against all others. To refrain from that part of Jihad is to risk the accusation of being a slacker or pseudo-Muslim. From the first stage to the last, all such effort constitutes “working towards the Prophet and Allah.”
“When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agreed to ‘the reasonable’ Muslims demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source: CIA: The World Fact Book, 2007).

“As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country it will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone….”

Here is where it becomes interesting. Note throughout the exponential scale of Islamic influence as the percentage of Muslim population per country increases. Comments in square brackets are my corrective interjections.

United States: 1.0
Australia: 1.5
Canada: 1.9
China: 1.0-2.0
Italy: 1.5
Norway: 1.8
“At 2% and 3% they [Muslims] begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.”

Denmark: 2.0
Germany: 3.7
United Kingdom: 2.7
Spain: 4.0
Italy: 4.6
“From 5% on they [Muslims] exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (“clean” by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves – along with threats for failure to comply (United States).”

France: 8.0
Philippines: 5.0
Sweden: 5.0
Switzerland: 4.3
The Netherlands: 5.5
Trinidad & Tobago: 5.8
“At this point, they [Muslims] will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, or Islamic law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

“When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris – car burning). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam, Denmark – Mohammed cartoons, murder of Theo van Gogh).”

Guyana: 10.0
India: 13.4
Israel: 16.0
Kenya: 10.0
Russia: 10.0-15.0

The one anomaly in this set of statistics is Israel, which has not experienced uprisings and threats of violence. Its Arab or Muslim population enjoys equal political rights with Jewish Israelis. The suicide bombings and rocket attacks that have killed hundreds have been perpetrated by outsiders.

“After reaching 20% [of a population] expect hair-trigger rioting, Jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia: 32.8
“After 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:”

Bosnia: 40.0
Chad: 53.1
Lebanon: 59.7
“From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and jizya, the tax placed on [conquered] infidels:”
Albania: 70.0
Malaysia: 60.4
Qatar: 77.5
Sudan: 70.0
“After 80%, expect state-run ethnic cleansing and genocide:”
Bangladesh: 83.0
Egypt: 90.0
Gaza: 98.7
Indonesia: 86.1
Iran: 98.0
Iraq: 97.0
Jordan: 92.0
Morocco: 98.7
Pakistan: 97.0
Palestine: 99.0
Syria: 90.0
Tajikistan: 90.0
Turkey: 99.8
United Arab Emirates: 96.0

I question the inclusion of “Palestine” in this set. “Palestine” simply means space occupied by stateless “Palestinians” in Gaza and the West Bank, and is the name of the state which Islamists wish to replace Israel, once it is destroyed. Turkey, after decades of having a secular, non-religious government, is beginning to turn “religious,” and seems to be yearning for the kind of Muslim government that cleansed the country in 1915 of non-Muslim Armenians in a genocide that predates the Holocaust.
“100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – the Islamic House of Peace’ [more correctly, dar-al-Islam, or Land of Islam]. There is supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim.”

Afghanistan: 100.0
Saudi Arabia: 100.0
Somalia: 100.0
Yemen: 99.9

“Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
“‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.’ Leon Uris, The Haj.

“It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

“Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.”

Hammond’s book is sponsored by the Frontline Fellowship, a Christian organization, and the book itself was published by Christian Liberty Books. The Frontline website contains several endorsements of the book by clerics and missionaries. The quoted paragraphs above were “adapted” from Hammond’s book (by whom, is unknown), and not very professionally. The statistics themselves were compiled by the CIA and used in the book.

The first paragraph of the Frontline ad for the book reads:
“Dr. Peter Hammond’s new book…is a fascinating, well illustrated and thoroughly documented response to the relentless anti-Christian propaganda that has been generated by Muslim and Marxist groups and by Hollywood film makers….”

For a detailed exposé of Islam’s Marxist affiliation – as distinguished from its symbiosis with Nazism – see Daniel Pipes’ “[The Islamist-Leftist] Allied Menace,” of July 15th.

So, regardless of the book’s Christian orientation, the statistics Hammond uses to cite the various Muslim populations in each country can be taken as reliable, as well as the prefatory remarks before each set of percentages. There is certainly a demonstrable and observable corollary between a country’s Muslim population and the influence it begins to have or has had on its government, politics and culture.

The Islamists are coolly “working towards the Prophet and Allah” as shown in the numbers above. Meanwhile, our policymakers appear to be a succession of compliant, pragmatic, non-judgmental zeroes blindly working towards the conquest and extinction of the West.

(1) The Fountainhead, pp. 667-668, Plume-Penguin Centennial Edition.
(2) “During the 1930s, Palestinian Arabs under the leadership of the Hajj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, had embraced a great deal of Nazi ideology.” From Denis MacEoin’s “Tactical Hudna and Islamist Intolerance,” Middle East Quarterly, Summer 2008.

Family Security Matters Contributing Editor Edward Cline is the author of a number of novels, and his essays, books reviews, and other nonfiction have appeared in a number of high-profile periodicals. Feedback: http://arabracismislamofascism.wordpres ... n-numbers/

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