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Tacitus' Realm / Re: WHO KILLED ROBERT KENNEDY?
« on: September 05, 2010, 02:09:04 PM »
Neither, it was Racer X !
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Open Free for All / Re: it's ok now
« on: September 05, 2010, 01:57:33 PM »
Yes! Thank goodness! Now we can get really into the serious business of "jails, institutions and death", which is of course our unchangeable fate because we left / broke with, the program.
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: Bush,B Sembler & Board Directors UR names & rep soon rui
« on: September 05, 2010, 01:49:12 PM »
Mrs. Pete is still alive? I thought she was an old woman in 1985! May she live long enough to finally face justice and a well deserved prison sentence.
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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: I went to a program, but was not abused
« on: September 05, 2010, 11:49:49 AM »
No Max, I meant if your program worked so well then why do you feel the need to post on fornits every day? I don't really care, it's obvious that you are a troll with a (badly) hidden agenda.
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Open Free for All / Re: What if AA is mainstream and Fornits is the cult?
« on: September 04, 2010, 10:19:03 PM »
Max, do you also go down to the Holocaust Museum and tell all the folks you find there that most Nazis were actually very generous, caring people?
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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: I went to a program, but was not abused
« on: September 04, 2010, 08:53:42 PM »
If you are so happy with your experience in your program then what are you even doing here?
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Open Free for All / Re: What if AA is mainstream and Fornits is the cult?
« on: September 04, 2010, 04:19:42 PM »
Max, If you want to drag all of your problems through your whole life like a ball and chain, go right ahead. I have found it easier to stop having those problems and just start living a different kind of life. You don't have to trade a drug addiction for an NA addiction. I was a heroin addict for almost 20 years, I have some experience with addiction. Keep coming back.
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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Post your positive program experiences
« on: August 19, 2010, 04:06:26 PM »
Sorry Suck it, I guess i should have said "Unlike you, most of us are grown-ups now." So go ahead and advocate the mental abuse of more and more teenagers, get it out of your system. Eventually, I hope, you will stop hating yourself and realize that whatever your problems were, there were more humane ways to treat them. No child deserves that kind of treatment.
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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: I hope you druggies are happy.......
« on: August 19, 2010, 02:49:51 PM »
And Miller Newton needs money more than ever! Never-mind the fact that Newtons programs almost certainly CREATED more heroin addicts than they helped. I am one of them. I had no interest in heroin until I got out of the program and wanted (needed) to forget what my mother had just done to me. I am now drug free and sober, no thanks to you assholes. You will burn in hell Newton, but not soon enough for me.
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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Post your positive program experiences
« on: August 19, 2010, 10:18:26 AM »
Suck it, you must work for a program, if not, you should. Imagine how many terrified, vulnerable teens you could help them torture and terrorize. And after many months, you can make them love you by giving them a snickers bar. People like you are what made my mom think it was ok to lock me up and torture me. Self destructive behavior is reasonably common in teenagers and is a normal part of growing up. Most of us do grow up before actually destroying ourselves and manage to live productive lives. You were out of control as a teenager, now you are an adult. You do not need to be so slavishly devoted to this abusive system. YOU ARE NOT POWERLESS, NONE OF US ARE. Powerless is what we were in those programs. We are grown-ups now. ::deadhorse::
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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Post your positive program experiences
« on: August 18, 2010, 01:48:58 PM »
I can only think of one positive aspect of the time I spent in the program ( straight spinoff in Florida ), which is this. It inoculated me somewhat against cult-style manipulation. I spent the five months there ( all on phase one ) watching how they manipulated perfectly normal teenagers and gradually turned them into sociopaths. I took note of how many rules were just about power and control and had nothing to do with addiction. I noticed that everyone seemed to be lying in their M.I.’s, which I refused to do and was consistently punished for. I developed a very serious drug problem after finally escaping which I have since overcome. I am now an atheist and am very distrustful of groups like AA and NA, although both of those organizations have helped many people, they still require belief in a “ higher power “. I want nothing to do with the God worshiped by the people in that program in Florida. Not even if he offers me cake, which, by the way, we didn’t get where I was, probably just because the manipulation potential of a birthday party had just not yet occurred to them. ::deadhorse::