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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Che Gookin on January 19, 2008, 08:50:37 AM
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Effective today, I(Che Gookin), the infamous leader, founder, and bankroller of the Youth Liberation Foundation tenders my resignation as leader of the YLF.
I will be asking Hurrikayne to hold the post as leader of the YLF until a general election can be held. I will not be putting my name forward as a possible canidate. I will be remaining an active member of the YLF in as a writer and protestor.
I believe that an organization designed to protest abuse in programs needs a leader that is a survivor and I have no desire to see the organization's growth stifled by my past history as a staff member of a residential treatment program or two.
More details to follow on the general election that hopefully will come in the next two weeks.
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Was there something specific that happened that led to this decision? Good job getting on getting it started. Are you still going to attend the protests?
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I can be reached at [email protected], or on MySpace (myspace.com/ylfwriter) if you'd like to write an article for YLF, or be interviewed about a protest you have participated in.
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Effective today, I(Che Gookin), the infamous leader, founder, and bankroller of the Youth Liberation Foundation tenders my resignation as leader of the YLF.
I will be asking Hurrikayne to hold the post as leader of the YLF until a general election can be held. I will not be putting my name forward as a possible canidate. I will be remaining an active member of the YLF in as a writer and protestor.
I believe that an organization designed to protest abuse in programs needs a leader that is a survivor and I have no desire to see the organization's growth stifled by my past history as a staff member of a residential treatment program or two.
More details to follow on the general election that hopefully will come in the next two weeks.
Who better to protest program abuse than someone who witnessed it from an RTC staff perspective? Anyone who would brand you an "infidel" because of your past association with RTC's is a fundamentalist, and we know the problems fundamentalism causes.
I respect your decision, but you're passionate about shutting these shitholes down and no one can question that. Your point is good about a survivor running it, but why not have a survivor running YLF who fills a Dubya Bush role, and you can be the Cheney running things in the background? An ombudsman, I guess.
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snaps to you for starting the org. ;D
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Effective today, I(Che Gookin), the infamous leader, founder, and bankroller of the Youth Liberation Foundation tenders my resignation as leader of the YLF.
I will be asking Hurrikayne to hold the post as leader of the YLF until a general election can be held. I will not be putting my name forward as a possible canidate. I will be remaining an active member of the YLF in as a writer and protestor.
I believe that an organization designed to protest abuse in programs needs a leader that is a survivor and I have no desire to see the organization's growth stifled by my past history as a staff member of a residential treatment program or two.
More details to follow on the general election that hopefully will come in the next two weeks.
TSW, How about a program parent? I am up for the challenge.. I have organizational skills, respected by most people here, I understand the ins and outs of the industry, I have the time .... I officially toss my hat in.
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No voting will be taking place with regards to YLF.
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Allrighty, well, we'll see if anyone is willing to put their name in the hat to run against you.
God forbid he win by default. Put my name in as well.
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Effective today, I(Che Gookin), the infamous leader, founder, and bankroller of the Youth Liberation Foundation tenders my resignation as leader of the YLF.
I will be asking Hurrikayne to hold the post as leader of the YLF until a general election can be held. I will not be putting my name forward as a possible canidate. I will be remaining an active member of the YLF in as a writer and protestor.
I believe that an organization designed to protest abuse in programs needs a leader that is a survivor and I have no desire to see the organization's growth stifled by my past history as a staff member of a residential treatment program or two.
More details to follow on the general election that hopefully will come in the next two weeks.
TSW, How about a program parent? I am up for the challenge.. I have organizational skills, respected by most people here, I understand the ins and outs of the industry, I have the time .... I officially toss my hat in.
That would be a bit like letting the "Church" of Scientology run the Cult Awareness Network... (oh wait.. they do).. Not here, asshole.
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That would be a bit like letting the "Church" of Scientology run the Cult Awareness Network... (oh wait.. they do).. Not here, asshole.
Hey, that is uncalled for. If I win I will work towards having a "Bong" in every household... I will institute a "3 strikes and you are out" policy.. meaning no one will "do time" for any (yes, any) offense the first 2 convictions, if you are under the age of 21.
I will erase the word "Illegal or legal" when associate with drugs... lets get back to basics... let face it drugs are drugs the only difference is the money trail... who gives a crap as long as the customer is happy!!
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the only difference is the money trail... who gives a crap as long as the customer is happy!!
At least TheWho is honest with himself now.
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That would be a bit like letting the "Church" of Scientology run the Cult Awareness Network... (oh wait.. they do).. Not here, asshole.
Hey, that is uncalled for. If I win I will work towards having a "Bong" in every household... I will institute a "3 strikes and you are out" policy.. meaning no one will "do time" for any (yes, any) offense the first 2 convictions, if you are under the age of 21.
I will erase the word "Illegal or legal" when associate with drugs... lets get back to basics... let face it drugs are drugs the only difference is the money trail... who gives a crap as long as the customer is happy!!
I'll see YLF nuked to oblivion before I allow The Who to get involved in it.
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That would be a bit like letting the "Church" of Scientology run the Cult Awareness Network... (oh wait.. they do).. Not here, asshole.
Hey, that is uncalled for. If I win I will work towards having a "Bong" in every household... I will institute a "3 strikes and you are out" policy.. meaning no one will "do time" for any (yes, any) offense the first 2 convictions, if you are under the age of 21.
I will erase the word "Illegal or legal" when associate with drugs... lets get back to basics... let face it drugs are drugs the only difference is the money trail... who gives a crap as long as the customer is happy!!
Now, see this is where Che's wisdom bitch slapped me. I'll see YLF nuked to oblivion before I allow The Who to get involved in it.
So I am not the front runner, but I work hard for what I believe in.
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All current members of the YLF are avaliable to campaign for the position. Sorry who.. and psy.. neither of you are current members...
I will be attending, organizing, and getting arrested at protests of course. I will still be involved in the org as a regular member. I just believe the time has come for someone with more patience than myself to lead the group into the next stage of its evolution.
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That would be a bit like letting the "Church" of Scientology run the Cult Awareness Network... (oh wait.. they do).. Not here, asshole.
Hey, that is uncalled for. If I win I will work towards having a "Bong" in every household...
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That is uncalled for, implying program survivors on YLF are druggies. Nice, casual discrediting of your opponents. If you wanted to head NORML, that would be appropriate.
Try lying like a politician and promise to abolish programs.
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Who cares Zen?
I'm higher than shit right now.
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Who cares Zen?
I'm higher than shit right now.
Well, yeah, but that's recreation, not an agenda! Not on YLF, anyway. I've emptied out a case of Reddi-Whip cans and I'm starting on gold spray paint. I fail to see how it relates to teen programs, especially since I'm far beyond "troubled adolescent" status and have legal rights, dammit.
Who, what gets you high besides profiting from abusive programs and rolling naked in blood money?
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Who cares Zen?
I'm higher than shit right now.
Oh come off it... On the entire week we were down at Benchmark I saw you have a grand total of like 3 beers and afaik you don't smoke pot either. Stop scaring the parents. You forget how clinically naive many of them are. Some are liable to take you seriously.
Keep in mind just how... different some parents are in their thinking. I had a parent complain to me today (yes, this was a real parent) about the "I just" thread on the straight forum... "Why are you letting these druggies talk about doing drugs! kids can find this forum!"
Yes. I'm sure the'll read RTP's posts about shooting up with oxy and say "gee, ma... I wanna do that tomorrow!" IMO, being open and honest about what all drugs do is the best deterrent you can get. Lie to kids, on the other hand, exaggerate to "protect them" and they're going to call everything you say on the subject bullshit and throw the baby out with the bath-water.
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Fuck the parents™
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Who cares Zen?
I'm higher than shit right now.
Oh come off it... On the entire week we were down at Benchmark I saw you have a grand total of like 3 beers and afaik you don't smoke pot either. Stop scaring the parents. You forget how clinically naive many of them are. Some are liable to take you seriously.
Keep in mind just how... different some parents are in their thinking. I had a parent complain to me today (yes, this was a real parent) about the "I just" thread on the straight forum... "Why are you letting these druggies talk about doing drugs! kids can find this forum!"
Yes. I'm sure the'll read RTP's posts about shooting up with oxy and say "gee, ma... I wanna do that tomorrow!" IMO, being open and honest about what all drugs do is the best deterrent you can get. Lie to kids, on the other hand, exaggerate to "protect them" and they're going to call everything you say on the subject bullshit and throw the baby out with the bath-water.
Who said I'm high off weed? Remember... I'm not in the USA at the moment.
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Was there something specific that happened that led to this decision? Good job getting on getting it started. Are you still going to attend the protests?
It was sort of my intention to hand off the organization sooner or later. I've never been that comfortable being restrained by the exalted mantle of leadership. Sometimes I just want to hang my balls out like the rest of the hairy barbarians in this world.
yes I'll still be protesting and planning and leading them.
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I have no problem with there not being a leader as long as everyone in the YLF acts individually protesting, writing letters and staying involved in fighting these programs. Personally I work better this way and have never liked being in a group since being held captive in the program group. By working individually against a common enemy, we are in essence working together indirectly. Sharing of information here and there and surgical strikes seem to be the best approach, in my opinion. This allows for less angst between unshared ideas and more freedom for independent ideas. When an idea is shown to be very effective, this might be an insight for the rest of us. Political pressure and protests are essential to combat the programs. I am not entirely unhappy with what is happening here. I am interested in seeing where this goes.
Tony
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Who cares Zen?
I'm higher than shit right now.
Oh come off it... On the entire week we were down at Benchmark I saw you have a grand total of like 3 beers and afaik you don't smoke pot either. Stop scaring the parents. You forget how clinically naive many of them are. Some are liable to take you seriously.
Keep in mind just how... different some parents are in their thinking. I had a parent complain to me today (yes, this was a real parent) about the "I just" thread on the straight forum... "Why are you letting these druggies talk about doing drugs! kids can find this forum!"
Yes. I'm sure the'll read RTP's posts about shooting up with oxy and say "gee, ma... I wanna do that tomorrow!" IMO, being open and honest about what all drugs do is the best deterrent you can get. Lie to kids, on the other hand, exaggerate to "protect them" and they're going to call everything you say on the subject bullshit and throw the baby out with the bath-water.
Who said I'm high off weed? Remember... I'm not in the USA at the moment.
Be careful...
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No way... danger is my middle name.
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Thank you Che for starting the ball rolling, and continuing to support and guide us as we make strides to educate America about the long term effects that programs/facilities have had on us.
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We're looking for contributors to write articles for YLF, send me a message at [email protected] if you'd be interested.
Thank you,
~hurrikayne