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I saw sue scheff on a beach yesterday.

                                              Ahahahahahahahhha, what a pig.

Because tolerance is the foundation of freedom.

Because controls on communication are, I believe, the linchpin of thought reform.

Because the Program exercises these types of controls to the extreme, causing extreme reactions in many of the captives, it's only fair and right to expect these extreme reactions. One man's poetry is another man's obscenity.

But at the bottom of it, because if the administrator were to take responsibility to control the kinds of speech that you don't like then said administrator would also have to take responsibility to control the kinds of speech that other people don't like. Your post above could be construed as hate speech against Stack. Should I delete it? Shit, half or more of the posts in this forum are offensive to somebody.

No, I think I'll leave it to the pro-program types to concern themselves with controlling what other people think and say and to you, gentle (or not) reader, to

                                        One thing for sure, is Antigen is equal to all. That no one should be upset about, ever. Now my advice to all would be, if you do not like something, ( and all know this to be true) then ignore it, till you do you will only upset yourself. Freedom is something for everyone, except mean staff members and fart barkers, lol.  Good work Antigen, fair is fair, and you are way cool for being 100 percent same with all.  Ha, is what I say about anyone stopping freedom of speech with Antigen. It's a no win situation, so deal with it in silence as many had to for years being tortured in those places. BLAHHHHHHHHHHHH! All have a nice day, Peace! Thank you again Antigen, you ROCK! :peace:

Many program abductees go on to have successful lifes after that abuse situation. It is a built in survivor mechanism and that is how I view past program victims, as survivors. I think a lot of folks who were abused by progams like the seed went into careers that were considered dangerous or where they put their own lifes in jeopardy to aid others. I worked in search and rescue and fire fighting for the National Park Service and did rock climbing recreationally. I think any therapist would agree that this could be related to the past trauma as well. We were torn down and made to feel like our life was worth nothing. Only to be rebuilt in the fantastical, manical world of the seedling. These techniques are not uncommon for other Synanon based "rehab" programs. Barker stole his experimental concepts from other programs and disquised it as a drug rehab.  Problem I have is by calling it a drug rehab, you would think that some experience might be involved. You would also think that drug use should be a qualifier for the abductees. You don't give power to those who are there through court orders or to a guy with zero experience in anything having to do with rehabilitation. Barker had no qualified background to be doing what he claimed he could. He was a fraud and a master manipulater. He conned his way through life and  allowed his ego to come first. Lots of creepy people are like that, Manson, Jim Jones, Ted Bundy.

Just sayin

                                 Agrees, just saying too, kinda scary some of the stuff I have been reading about other places that took off from the seed, scary to know so many lives are out there scared and being abused. Like it does not stop, they made so much money profiting that every time they close one place down another pops right up. ( you really have to be a sick soul to want to make money in this manner)When no one at all is allowed to profit off of souls, then maybe there will be a place that actually helps rather then forces, and forcing someone like myself will just make someone run, that is what I did, and thankful I did. (oh and I went through the motion there for almost a year) I can not see how anyone at  these places thinks it helps anyone, if one they are forced to be there, ( I am not talking court ordered) I am talking taken in tricked lied to rolled up in a carpet what ever way they so think they can get away with. Thing is  if you do this to someone, trust me they will eventually find a way away from such B.S. I had to take on a job at almost 14 to survive when I should have been in school. That is what they do to souls in those places, they take away from them is all. And please someone tell me how the fudge any drug  rehab helps someone that is not even on drugs, but is forced to lie and say they did drugs? Success is when one knows self.Success is when you have the instincts to run from brainwashed addicts that want to profit off of you. I have to say, if it was not for this forum, I would never have read the truth about those idiots that only profited off of young souls who should have been in school not some blimp hanger. Thanks sis for writing , you always did make sense to me. What ever one goes through in life just remember it is your life not someone else. Be good to yourself that is the one soul that you should honor.  :peace:

Wow, I remember it like it was yesterday, and I had not even thought nor spoke of place in well  many moons, I am 49 now, was put in at 13, ran away at almost 14 from the seed, so many moons ago .  The day I ran, left that scene, I had blocked it, like it never happened. Till just a few months ago, when my  brother turned me on to this forum. I kinda wished I had not come here, because it was nice not remembering such horrible crap but then it feel's great at same time maybe even better for me to be able to type this stuff out of me. I am really feeling a lot of thing's from reading others stories as well. It is really emotional to remember this nightmare I kept away for so long. Do I remember yes clearly. I think I know how you feel though, it was great not thinking of that place. I hope all are able to put that part of their lives behind them, I was lucky in way I was at least young, and I was able to survive and move on. It may have been rough, but I so love freedom enough that I made it.  Remembering something that  should never have happened. Not for everyone I guess to remember, sometimes it is better to forget.    Some of this stuff  makes me feel sad at times, I mean really sad, It could also be why I feel like I am still 14 years old at times, some think I missed out by not going to school and all, but I lived, saw thing's that most would never see nor experience. I feel lucky not to have had been crippled more in life, by the force of humans. School is in the heart, and people live and learn as much as they want out of life. I have not put a dent in learning, I am grateful for that. I am also grateful I do not have to remember if I chose not to.I am grateful for surviving such memory as well. Remember to look up into the sky  once in a while, Lot's of peace in the skies. Oh, and always smile, it keeps you balanced. :peace:

Been watching this sight, and what's been going on for a while now. some of the nasty stuff just isn;t funny. well there actually is a cyber unit at wright-patterson, and they actually do look for this kind of filth.. it isn;t just words, it's word- combinations, and justone used several.. so, inculcated, and greg, and ginger, and the rest, the sticky stones aren't just creepy fools any more, they're a gov't matter. O WELL! let them know that they can look for an audit in side two years.  I'm laughing my butt off, " where ya gonna run to? where ya gonna hide?"
"The Mills of God grind slow, but they grind exceedingly fine."

                                           Blah, Blah, Blah, maybe now they will look into the crimes that were done to me...sigh....better now then never, ..... ghost buster huh, I liked the ghost busters movie, maybe there will be a seed busters movie available soon,  bust me baby, bust me baby all night long. Is your bum that big to laugh off???  :moon:

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