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Scheff is shameless. I remember her efforts to harrass Carey way back when. Scheff's relentless efforts to have others write hateful harrassing comments on Fornits about Carey.
Scheff couldn't write any post herself of course "because of her lawsuit."
Scheff stated many times she would "own the bitch's house." It was a calculated effort on her part.
Apparently Scheff forgets it was her idea to call Carey's boss at the bank. To have her friends knock on Carey's front door.
Or to put Carey's social security number on the fornit's site.
Talk about evasion of privacy. Scheff is a flaming hypocrite.
I hope I'm invited to testify on Carey's behalf to tell the real truth as I remember it having taken place........
Scheff wasn't going out of her house prior to her issues with Carey. She blamed her not leaving her house on WWASP and their efforts to GET her . It was years before Carey was involved.
What ever happened to the good Catholic church going woman? LIE after Lie after Lie. Shame on you Scheff. The TRUTH will prevail.
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I hope you don't mean me asking W. but why in the world would people allow themselves to behave in such a despictable manner?
Did Scheff have ya'll under some sort of spell?
I'm sorry but the damage that has been done in the name of "getting WWASPS" is so far-reaching it's downright overwhelming.
Scheff referred countless kids to WWASPS programs and yet she is not named as a defendant in the Turley lawsuit.
Some people find that extremely self-serving and have asked for an explanation only to be told it's an inappropriate or unfair question.
Now that it appears Pandora's Box is finally open and people are willing and able to be of assistance to Carey Bock in her appeal of that outrageous judgment, there is hope the truth will indeed prevail.
Thanks for your post - it's good to know there are people out there who regret their past association and/or involvement with PURE and not afraid to speak the truth.
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Scheff is shameless. I remember her efforts to harrass Carey way back when. Scheff's relentless efforts to have others write hateful harrassing comments on Fornits about Carey.
Scheff couldn't write any post herself of course "because of her lawsuit."
Scheff stated many times she would "own the bitch's house." It was a calculated effort on her part.
Apparently Scheff forgets it was her idea to call Carey's boss at the bank. To have her friends knock on Carey's front door.
Or to put Carey's social security number on the fornit's site.
Talk about evasion of privacy. Scheff is a flaming hypocrite.
I hope I'm invited to testify on Carey's behalf to tell the real truth as I remember it having taken place........
Scheff wasn't going out of her house prior to her issues with Carey. She blamed her not leaving her house on WWASP and their efforts to GET her . It was years before Carey was involved.
What ever happened to the good Catholic church going woman? LIE after Lie after Lie. Shame on you Scheff. The TRUTH will prevail.
Wendy,
Can you email me. I'd like to ask you a few questions if it's alright with you.
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Grown-ups would follow Sue Scheff's orders to go "door knocking" on another person's house to torment them?
WTF?
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The door knocking was mentioned. Probably never acted upon.
Definately Scheff was initiating the ideas. Others acted out of their own outrage of circumstances. Scheff fueled the fire.
"Getting WWASP" is stating the effort too mildly.
Carey knows I am available if needed.
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Scheff is shameless. I remember her efforts to harrass Carey way back when. Scheff's relentless efforts to have others write hateful harrassing comments on Fornits about Carey.
I remember this; but a bit differently. As I recall it, this was more of an effort to counter some of Carey's twisting of the truth; to try and protect the efforts to counsel program parents; and later, to expose Carey's [then] profitable association with WWASP.
Scheff couldn't write any post herself of course "because of her lawsuit."
As I recall she was more concerned with making sure Ginger didn't get her IP address. But there was often talk of concern about not compromising her defense in the upcoming WWASPS V PURE case.
Scheff stated many times she would "own the bitch's house." It was a calculated effort on her part.
I remember this too. It was a frequent comment.
Apparently Scheff forgets it was her idea to call Carey's boss at the bank. To have her friends knock on Carey's front door.
Are you sure that wasn't the Coleburns? I am next to certain it was the Colburns who did the calling, but I couldn't say for sure who's idea it was originally.
Or to put Carey's social security number on the fornit's site.
I remember a part of this number being posted. I can't recall that it was the whole number - was it? Anyway, I am not so sure this was a Scheff thing. Might have been, but its not something I recall 'hearing' talked about before the fact.
Talk about evasion of privacy. Scheff is a flaming hypocrite.
Well yeah, but so is Carey IMO. I think they are very much alike. I do however think Scheff is the more awful of the two simply b/c she is so wiling to profit on the suffering of others. But then I also feel Carey was very willing to profit by actions that she knew would cripple efforts to counsel program parents as to the realities of program life.
I hope I'm invited to testify on Carey's behalf to tell the real truth as I remember it having taken place........
Well be sure to tell the lawyer this. But before you do, make sure you mean it. Take into consideration the time and effort it would entail and make sure you are wiling to make it available before you make the offer.
Scheff wasn't going out of her house prior to her issues with Carey. She blamed her not leaving her house on WWASP and their efforts to GET her . It was years before Carey was involved.
I don't recall Scheff ever saying she wouldn't leave her house. I spoke to her lots of times when she was on her way to the gym or the movies or to her psychic. . . Was this something she told some few in private maybe?
What ever happened to the good Catholic church going woman? LIE after Lie after Lie. Shame on you Scheff. The TRUTH will prevail.
If she is in fact Catholic, she is obviously a lapsed Catholic. The teachings of the RCC apparently mean little or nothing to her. But where there's life there's hope. She can repent and be forgiven if she can find the humility to do so. Pride, I fear, is her major stumbling block; as it is for so many. The proud shall be humbled, one way or another. Interesting to me, the tools God sometimes chooses to use to bring this about ;)
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Well yeah, but so is Carey IMO. I think they are very much alike. I do however think Scheff is the more awful of the two simply b/c she is so wiling to profit on the suffering of others. But then I also feel Carey was very willing to profit by actions that she knew would cripple efforts to counsel program parents as to the realities of program life.
What?
How did I cripple efforts to counsel parents? I don't think I did any such thing. I told people what I thought Scheff was doing. I told people that I felt like she was using people, trekkers in particular, to promote her own company, PURE. I told people that I felt like she was using people, trekers again, to help with her defence in her lawsuit.
How is it that you think I am a hypocrite? I have been straight up on everything.
How did I twist the truth? Whose truth did I twist? Yours or mine? Please refresh my memory, tell me exactly what you are talking about with this statement.
How did I profit? I spent $30,000 getting and keeping my boys out of Dundee.
We have done this once before. You and I have discussed my personal experience of what happen to me and my family to no end and you ended up, for whatever reason, deleting all of your posts. Whats up?
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I forgot to log in. The above post was mine.
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Suffice to say. The anger many folks felt toward Carey had to do with WWASP's amended complaint ,which was never added to WWASP vs S.Scheff,Pure. It was scary at the time. That in and of itself created havoc,which was probably the intent of the bad boys.
I 'm addressing the hypocrysy of Scheff's many posts. Her playing the wounded party.
I don't wish to kick the dead horse. The 11 million dollars is my concern and why,and how to assist in over turning the default judgement.
IMO the efforts at the time to enlighten parents to our knowlege was sincere.
I do know i was unaware of Scheff's placement of kids in WWASP Program.
All Program parents have the opportunity to get free tuition with placement. Many do take advantage of the opportunity. Scheff was better at it than others apparnetly.. Don't forget these parents BELIEVE the "program saved their childrens lives."
SS definately played her "friends" against each other many times.
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With the exception of Wendy it would appear the rest of these PURE defenders had their heads up their asses. I remember the vile, disgusting language they used to attack Carey on Fornits. It went beyond vicious. Pathological, IMO.
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Sue Scheff seems to "want things both ways." She claims she can not and could not leave her house; yet she CLAIMS she visits the many programs that she refers parents and their children to.
How can Scheff visit these programs that are spread across the U.S. if she is house-bound?
Buzzkills posts, which are deleted now, were read by many; and she, too called Carey Bock some rather vile names. But, if Carey Bock is willing to let by-gones be by-gones that's between them.
The former followers of Scheff, have they posted their opinions of Scheff being sued along with Focal Point Academy and Boyd Hooper by the Green Family? Any posts by these former followers about the recent developments at Harbor Oaks Boarding School?
Scheff has referred to many many programs, other than WWASP that damage families.
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Suffice to say. The anger many folks felt toward Carey had to do with WWASP's amended complaint ,which was never added to WWASP vs S.Scheff,Pure. It was scary at the time. That in and of itself created havoc,which was probably the intent of the bad boys.
Yeah - that about sums it up. Once it was understood the lap top had been "rented" by WWASP a lot of people were very upset - and not all of them were friends of Scheff's. There was at the time a great deal of anger and outrage as a result of that breach of confidence and betrayal.
I 'm addressing the hypocrysy of Scheff's many posts. Her playing the wounded party.
Sure, that's fair enough; keeping in mind, a lot of us were wounded and were reacting from our own feelings on related matters. But I know what you mean - our little princess is a pro at playing the damsel in distress that needs protection and rescue. Its an easy ploy to fall for.
I don't wish to kick the dead horse. The 11 million dollars is my concern and why,and how to assist in over turning the default judgment.
I agree. This judgment is grossly unjust, on so many levels. . .
I truly do hope to see this case successfully appealed. I hope it is turned on its head in a new trial. I hope the truth will be told. I hope Carey has a counter suit and I hope she wins it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't stick in my craw, to see her made out to be some innocent victim, and champion of truth and justice. This is no more true of Bock than Scheff.
IMO the efforts at the time to enlighten parents to our knowledge was sincere.
Oh no doubt about it. As a group, the Trekkers are good people with honorable intentions. Its a shame they have, as a group, been drug through so much muck as a consequence of association with Scheff and PURE. You might recall my constant insistence that the Trekkers remain separate from PURE, and my concern for the negative effect on the perceived integrity of the group, if this separation wasn't maintained. It was a source of on going friction, which eventually brought about my severance from the group - until we learned about the lap top "rental" and the amended complaint. That got me sucked back in - but only until we once again found ourselves having to choose between out personal integrity and placating PURE.
I do know i was unaware of Scheff's placement of kids in WWASP Program.
You mean after the founding of PURE? I'd agree with that. We all thought she had been a referring parent - like so many others; but it was unknown that she had for so long sent kids to WWASP after the founding PURE. That one letter to Kevin Richy saying she would continue to place children at Majestic Ranch b/c she had no other facility to send young children to was a major shock and eye opener for me personally.
All Program parents have the opportunity to get free tuition with placement. Many do take advantage of the opportunity. Scheff was better at it than others apparently.. Don't forget these parents BELIEVE the "program saved their children's lives."
Yeah - this is true enuff. Its easy to forget just how effective the brain washing is and how blind it makes people.
SS definately played her "friends" against each other many times.
Oh gosh yes. I once wrote BK a long post on this very subject.
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Buzzkills posts, which are deleted now, were read by many; and she, too called Carey Bock some rather vile names. But, if Carey Bock is willing to let by-gones be by-gones that's between them.
Buzzkill's posts have not been deleted.
I can't recall calling Bock anything worse than WWASPS' whore - I thought it appropriate at the time, and I still do. If you find something worse, let me know. Maybe I'll see fit to apologize.
I have no interest in any by-gones. However, I do think a great injustice has been done - I do think it needs to be set right - and if I can help accomplish this by telling the truth, I will.
For example: At no time or in any way was Carey trying to profit from a film or documentary or news cast. She might have been working with producers or journalist. Several of us have. But profit was never an issue or possibility. I feel it would have been impossible for this to have been a factor in the rancor of the time, with out it being widely discussed, and so I am confident it was never a factor.
In all my conversations with Scheff at that time, (and there were many) I do not recall her ever mentioning that her business had been harmed by Carey. She was pissed off. We were ALL pissed off. But she never mentioned her business suffering.
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Ya know many of these WWASPS parents sold other KIDS to WWASPS! I don't know the whole story with the cpu, but I'd say these parents are the WWASPS whores not Carey.
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Buzzkill's posts have not been deleted.
Karen aka Buzzkill, KarenZ and anon.
Are you sure you want to make that claim? You have deleted plenty of posts in the past. Don't twist the truth (aka lie).
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Oh gosh yes. I once wrote BK a long post on this very subject.
Buzzkill's posts have not been deleted.
Hey Buzzkill, I'm confused- why are you writing letters to yourself and referring to yourself in the 3rd person?
Does that BK stand for someone else? Are there two Buzzkills??
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Who are these Trekker people?
The Colburns, Jeff Berryman, and Blanche Hardy have been mentioned.
Buzzkill (Karen), Psy(Michael) and Carey Bock say they are ex-members of this Sue Scheff group.
Who belonged, and still belong to this group?
Why does Sue Scheff's group of supporters continue to remain a "secret" as does the names of the programs she refers to?
Why no disclosure of who these Trekker people are?
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There's still the question of why Scheff/Pure hasn't been named as a defendant in the Turley lawsuit against WWASP? Over 100 plaintiffs, and none of these kids were referred to the WWASP programs by Scheff/PURE?
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Hey Buzzkill, I'm confused- why are you writing letters to yourself and referring to yourself in the 3rd person?
Does that BK stand for someone else? Are there two Buzzkills??
I was refering to BK DeLong. Sorry for the confussion.
Ya know many of these WWASPS parents sold other KIDS to WWASPS! I don't know the whole story with the cpu, but I'd say these parents are the WWASPS whores not Carey.
You could look at it that way. The one difference is the parents doing the referring thought they were helping. They were/ are wrong - but they honestly believe it to be true.
Carey knew that "renting" WWASP her lap top for $12,500 to provide them with access to all her email, from anyone who ever wrote her, was [at least potentially] destructive and damaging to a good many people, and devastated the efforts to inform worried program parents of the realities, beneficial only to WWASPS.
I think that is a significant difference.
Are you sure you want to make that claim? You have deleted plenty of posts in the past. Don't twist the truth (aka lie).
Someone (oh who could it be?) said *BuzzKill* has deleted post. BuzzKill has not. Well, except to combine post a time or two; but thats editing, not deleting. As for any other user name who might have deleted posts - many have done so. I assume some for good reason, and others perhaps not. If *I* ever did so, under any user name, naturally I'd say it was with good reason. Other than that, it aint nobody's business but my own.
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Someone (oh who could it be?) said *BuzzKill* has deleted post. BuzzKill has not. Well, except to combine post a time or two; but thats editing, not deleting. As for any other user name who might have deleted posts - many have done so. I assume some for good reason, and others perhaps not.
BuzzKill, now you are beginning to sound like Bill Clinton. "It depends on what your definition of is, is." BuzzKill is Karen, who is KarenZ who is anon. YOU, Karen, BuzzKill, KarenZ, anon have deleted posts in the past. You deleted plenty of posts, not just to combine posts or to edit posts, but you deleted posts by way of edit. Don't play games with words and your identities.
If *I* ever did so, under any user name, naturally I'd say it was with good reason.
I'm sure it was.
Other than that, it aint nobody's business but my own.
You make it everyone's business when you post it on fornits. If you want your comments and your actions to remain only your business, then keep your comments to yourself and don't post on fornits.
YOU, Karen, BuzzKill, anon have deleted posts in the past. There is no if *I* ever did so, YOU did so. You even went as far as trying to make them look like you didn't post them in the first place.
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Believe it's all that Bible-thumping religious talk that bothers people when one lies, Buzzkill, Karen, Karen B.
So you called Carey Bock some names, and deleted some posts, so what? Why lie about something like that?
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Well yeah, but so is Carey IMO. I think they are very much alike. I do however think Scheff is the more awful of the two simply b/c she is so wiling to profit on the suffering of others. But then I also feel Carey was very willing to profit by actions that she knew would cripple efforts to counsel program parents as to the realities of program life.
What?
How did I cripple efforts to counsel parents? I don't think I did any such thing. I told people what I thought Scheff was doing. I told people that I felt like she was using people, trekkers in particular, to promote her own company, PURE. I told people that I felt like she was using people, trekers again, to help with her defence in her lawsuit.
How is it that you think I am a hypocrite? I have been straight up on everything.
How did I twist the truth? Whose truth did I twist? Yours or mine? Please refresh my memory, tell me exactly what you are talking about with this statement.
How did I profit? I spent $30,000 getting and keeping my boys out of Dundee.
We have done this once before. You and I have discussed my personal experience of what happen to me and my family to no end and you ended up, for whatever reason, deleting all of your posts. Whats up?
Karen you claim that I crippled efforts, that I am hypocrite, that I twisted the truth and that I have profited off of WWASPS. Can you please be specific and tell me how?
And the guest poster above is correct, you did delete posts and try to make it look like it was someone else who posted in the first place. I remember that too.
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The point is, why does it seem anybody is still excusiing the behaviors of Sue Scheff? Never heard of Carey Bock referring a child into a WWASP program, or any other program. Bock didn't even place her own children into a program.
And any grown adult who would follow Scheff's lead/orders and post Bock's Social Security Number; go door-knocking on Bock's door; call Bock's boss, is a rather stupid adult IMO.
Those types of behaviors by Scheff, if she actually did them, do not reflect a "damsel in distress?" Those types of behaviors reflect a sick, vengeful person who seems to be on a personal mission to destroy someone.
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Believe it's all that Bible-thumping religious talk that bothers people when one lies, Buzzkill, Karen, Karen B.
So you called Carey Bock some names, and deleted some posts, so what? Why lie about something like that?
There is no reason to lie about it.
Someone wrote: Buzzkills posts, which are deleted now . . .
*BuzzKill* hasn't deleted any post, and that's the truth.
But, ya know, I do find it amusing in the extreme, anyone would be so interested (obsessed even) in what I deleted, or not, and why.
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The point is, why does it seem anybody is still excusiing the behaviors of Sue Scheff?
Who is excusing Scheff? Her behavior to the Whitmore families; and others, has been atrocious and is inexcusable.
Never heard of Carey Bock referring a child into a WWASP program, or any other program. Bock didn't even place her own children into a program.
Who said she did? What she did was, sell a lot of information, about a lot of people, to WWASPS.
And any grown adult who would follow Scheff's lead/orders and post Bock's Social Security Number;
Again; Was it the entire number? I didn't think so. . . I am not sure that was Scheff's doing anyway; tho I am sure she thought it was a riot.
go door-knocking on Bock's door; call Bock's boss, is a rather stupid adult IMO.
Not thinking clearly, maybe. Stress does that to people.
Those types of behaviors by Scheff, if she actually did them, do not reflect a "damsel in distress?" Those types of behaviors reflect a sick, vengeful person who seems to be on a personal mission to destroy someone.
I'd say they were on a mutual destruction campaign.
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Wasn't Buzz pretty much posting as Karen Z. in those dark days? I seem to remember that to be the case and that yes, Karen Z did delete and/or edit many of THOSE posts later on.
Not sure what the current fuss is all about but it seems clear that by all accounts, Carey Bock was no better or worse than SS and even the trekkers and pure loyalists who it could be argued managed to inadvertenly assist SS in promoting herself and her org. PURE.
Let's stop the backbiting and get behind the truth so that if given the opportunity, Carey Bock can assert her innocence through her own witnesses and exhibits.
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Buzzkill, what is your opinion of the Green lawsuit against Scheff and also, the relationship of Izzy and SS? Do you think they are still pals and professional colleagues?
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You might as well give it up. Buzz hasn't learned a thing from her past. She just keeps putting that big ole fat foot smack dab in them middle of her mouth. Wait, I take it back, she has learned a thing or two, how to lie and how to manipulate.
I guess those questions Carey posed are just too hard for her to answer, especially seeing what so easily amuses her.
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What info did Carey turn over? Didn't it show that Sue was a fucking hypocrite, and perhaps a bunch of parents too? Program parents are just rich ....
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Would rather see thousands of hard-drives sold to WWASPS than one kid sold into a program!
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I am beginning to think that Karen may have been writing some of Sue's blogs. She seems to be about as creative in her thought process as Scheff is.
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Karen you shouldn't do so much speculating. It says something about your character, and believe me, it's not good.
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OK, Buzzkill aka Karen, Karen Z deleted posts.
Who are these Trekker people, and why isn't Sue Scheff a defendant in the Turley lawsuit like the other referral companies?
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Buzzkill, what is your opinion of the Green lawsuit against Scheff and also, the relationship of Izzy and SS? Do you think they are still pals and professional colleagues?
I don't know anything about it that isn't in the complaint. I'm not surprised by any of what I read. I hope they are successful.
I have no idea what is going on with Sue and Izzy. I tend to doubt they are still buddy buddy. I don't think Sue's pride would allow it. I would guess that it really made her mad when Izzy took down the links to PURE and tried to tell Psy that she had been "fooled". But then again, the ranks of Sue supporters has got to be getting thin. Could be she'll want to make up just to have someone to talk to about all her trials and tribulations. Who knows?
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Appears that Izzy and Sue-Sue pretending to have parted ways as friends and colleagues might be convincing to a few.
Izzy hasn't posted Focal Point Academy on her "watchlist" which has been renamed.
Izzy hasn't posted the Scheff/Focal Point lawsuit on CAICA's litigation page.
Izzy hasn't apologized to the Whitmore parents/children for writing that disgraceful blog.
Izzy's blog page refers readers to Positive Family Solutions website; but that website has been down/parked since right before the lawsuit against Scheff was filed.
Yet, some people would actually believe she's parted ways with Scheff/PURE?
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Appears that Izzy and Sue-Sue pretending to have parted ways as friends and colleagues might be convincing to a few.
Izzy hasn't posted Focal Point Academy on her "watchlist" which has been renamed.
Izzy hasn't posted the Scheff/Focal Point lawsuit on CAICA's litigation page.
Izzy hasn't apologized to the Whitmore parents/children for writing that disgraceful blog.
Izzy's blog page refers readers to Positive Family Solutions website; but that website has been down/parked since right before the lawsuit against Scheff was filed.
Yet, some people would actually believe she's parted ways with Scheff/PURE?
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Yeah, this looks like she is still covering for her "friend and associate". But is she doing any updating? I don't look at CACA, an so wouldn't know if she has it up as a static site, with no new info; or if she is keeping it active but omitting these important items. It might make a difference. I don't think the Whitmore families will ever get an apology. That would require admitting she had done something wrong - or been wrong about something - not gonna happen.
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Ca-Ca's being kept updated; just making it look like PURE isn't around.
Izzy even took Sue-Sue off that "Advocate of the Month" list of her's.
Slick, huh?
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I have no idea what is going on with Sue and Izzy. I tend to doubt they are still buddy buddy. I don't think Sue's pride would allow it. I would guess that it really made her mad when Izzy took down the links to PURE and tried to tell Psy that she had been "fooled". But then again, the ranks of Sue supporters has got to be getting thin. Could be she'll want to make up just to have someone to talk to about all her trials and tribulations. Who knows?
IMO, I think Sue and Izzy are still "buddies"...
Before I knew Izzy was releasing my families personal info to Psy and to many many others... she still acted like she was my personal friend.
I think she milks the cow as long as it benefits her without regard to whoever else it may hurt.
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Sandy, in one of her emails to you, Izzy was bragging how she helped start the TURLEY LAWSUIT against WWWASP; and how she continues to find clients for this case.
Did Izzy tell you how she gets in contact with these WWASP parents to refer them on to the Turley law firm?
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Below is the email Izzy wrote to Sandy:
Hi Sandy,
I'm actually the one who found the Turley Law Firm. Last June I got a call from a boy named ____.
He was quite persistent and didn't give up trying to reach me. I ended up taking 16 hours of his
testimony one week and made the decision that this was the one. I was so tired of hearing these
stories day in and day out. I had tried for three years to locate a law firm that would take the
case (not his, but WWASPS in general.) It's not easy because once a firm realizes what they're up
against they bail. I got the Turley Law Firm's name from this boy's mom. She said she saw Turley on a
commercial, I think she said. Or and ad, I don't remember. Anyway, she lived down the street
from his building and urged me to call him. He and another lawyer there asked me to put an
information packet together for them, which I did, and to summarize ____'s testimony since we only had a
few weeks before his statute ran. I got everything to them and two days before his birthday they
agreed to take the
case! To this day I mentor this boy (not a good family situation) - every day. He's become like a
3rd son and his girlfriend calls me all the time too. Anyway, I told Turley that if we could get
his case going I knew I could get him more plaintiffs. And I did. They amended the complaint in
late October, adding another 23 plaintiffs. Then by the end of December they had 82, and now they are
about to add another 40 some plaintiffs!!! Every call I get from a kid who's been abused or
parents who were defrauded I direct to the Turley Firm. Here's a link to one of my press releases re
this case, and a link to the litigation page of my website:
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This Izzy woman is full of BS. She sonds like Scheff. I,I,I, Me, me, me.
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Well, Izzy and Sue-Sue do claim to be "friends and colleagues" who work as as TEAM; so guess they both have to me "I, I, I, and Me, Me, ME" types to get along so well in this referral business.
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Sounds like someone's a little green.. :cry2:
And you couldn't be more wrong about me. I provide a service that helps families deal with problem children by referring them to the good programs! And I'll have you know that I've made plenty of sacrifices along the way to bring that dream to fruition! It's not all about me, it's all about helping the kids! :roll: :flame:
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No, she never told me. In fact, I don't think she even mentioned the Turley suit until I brought it up to her.
I had been on the internet and ran across it and had asked her if she knew about it. That's when she took credit for it.
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So, Izzy never mentioned the Turley lawsuit to you; didn't try to recruit your family to join the Turly lawsuit, Sandy?
That sounds strange, especially siince Izzy claims she assisted in getting your daughter removed from what is reported to be one of WWASP's most abusive facilities, Tranquility Bay.
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So, Izzy never mentioned the Turley lawsuit to you; didn't try to recruit your family to join the Turly lawsuit, Sandy?
That sounds strange, especially siince Izzy claims she assisted in getting your daughter removed from what is reported to be one of WWASP's most abusive facilities, Tranquility Bay.
No, she didn't try to recruit my family to join the suit. Maybe she knew that it wouldn't happen.
Izzy was used as a MEDIATOR in our situation. I know she claims more but that's not true. We would have gotten my daughter out of TB with or without her around.
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What exactly does/did a MEDIATOR do when helping your family to check your daughter out of the residential treatment facility- Tranquility Bay?
What role did Isabelle Zehnder perform in your daughter being withdrawn from Tranquility Bay?
Zehnder seems to present that she played some hugely important "role" that master-minded the release of your daughter from this facility.
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Our attorney is the person that secured my daughter's release from TB, NOT Isabelle.
All Isabelle did was act as a kind of "buffer" between 2 members of my family. But I know she THINKS she did everything..... :roll:
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Sandy
I am interested to know exactly how you were put into touch with Izzy in the first place, who initiated the contact?, how you were found?, where you on another board?, etc. It would be helpful.
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Sandy
I am interested to know exactly how you were put into touch with Izzy in the first place, who initiated the contact?, how you were found?, where you on another board?, etc. It would be helpful.
In all honesty... not quite sure of the "links"..
I do know that a so called "child advocate", in the city that the biological mom of my daughter lives, knew her and this person put her in contact w/Isabelle. I was then requested by my exhubby to cooperate w/Isabelle and help as much as possible in the mediation.
I did do an internet search before I spoke to Isabelle and nothing bad came up that I saw.
I was never on any other boards. I got on Fornits after Isabelle told me that my name was being on here.... now, I do believe, she was the one person that "leaked" my name...
Very bad move on her part... I started seeing the reality...
Do I need to thank her? :rofl:
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Wonder what city the biological mom lived in, and what "adovcate" referred her to Izzy? An "advocate" from a Florida city maybe?
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Wonder what city the biological mom lived in, and what "adovcate" referred her to Izzy? An "advocate" from a Florida city maybe?
No, it's not Florida..
It's CT and the "advocate's" first name is "Johnna".. (not sure I'm spelling that right), I have no idea what her last name is.
I'll try and see if there's some connection to SS as I don't know how Johnna knew of Isabelle. Maybe she pulled Isabelle up on the internet, I will find out.