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Im gonna give my pals at Halliburton a call and see if they can hook me up with some night vision goggles and my own black helicopter. Full-on ninja-wear 24/7. Keep those teens in line. Fuck, keep everyone in line. Peace, the old-fashioned way!

On 2005-10-05 20:58:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"Rule 1 you really want to know Rule 1?





Allright pussheads listen up Rule 1 is....





Whatever Mr. TSW feels like it needs to be today.

Men had better be without education than be educated by their rulers.
--Thomas Hodgskin, 1823

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TSW,
You are such a BAMF. Im done with my 16 hour workdays.  Drop a line when you get a chance.
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I too dont agree with removing children en masse from the family home. I do feel that there can be some benefits found in removing a child from an unsafe home environment. As with everything, there are exceptions. I have had friends that have had to live with the knowledge that their mother had wished they had never been born. And Ive had numerous students that have told me the same thing. What kind of parent looks a child in the eye and tells them they wish they had never gotten pregnant? Is home a good, safe place for that child? Through history there have been children raised by others, I think the apprentice system was set up like that. When your parents couldnt afford another mouth to feed you were sent off and raised by someone else. You worked for your food but you had a place. I dont necessarily agree with any of these practices, but any of these might be better than the situation the child is in.... Just a mile a way from my home - in an affluent part of St. Paul, Minnesota the cops found a dog kennel in the basement where the parents would lock up their daughter when she was misbehaving.... this childs parents are nutbags and shouldnt be allowed to raise their kids. They are better off in someone elses hands.

On 2005-08-31 10:15:00, jellybean wrote:

"I do recall seeing that someone on the staff was affiliated with SUWS.  I am wondering what they meant by a big joke.  I did notice that it is not a punitive style school where contact is limited and such, but hopefully that doesn't mean something bad.  This is a stressful process for a parent to research these schools and I have found some bad info on a lot of them such as Diamond Ranch (ouch)!  I haven't been able to find anything adverse on this school and was referred to your site for help.



Shortbus quote: The feedback I got from the parents filtered through the theraputic staff that recommended the program was that "the parents thought the school was a joke". The circumstances behind the referral was that the family suggested that their son go to a theraputic boarding school after wilderness, the son figured that to succeed at school and graduate instead of just getting a ged might not be a bad idea. So son agreed to boarding school. The son was adamant about having a say in WHERE he would go. I suggested that he be given a couple days of internet access to do some research. This suggestion was not considered and his therapist at my wilderness program gave him information about one program - Wisdom Ranch. I felt that one choice wasnt really a choice. I again suggested engaging the sudent at a higher level and let him help decide where he wanted to go. One choice was all that was presented. His mother picked him up in New Mexico and flew with him to Idaho and met the father and the three of them visited Wisdom Ranch together. The school is located in eastern Idaho not far from some pretty desolate areas. Rediculously different than the images conjured up when someone mentions Sun Valley (I think their site mentions Sun Valley) - which is kind of close but not really. From what you post and what I know about SUWS from working there, there are some aspects of the program at Wisdom Ranch that might be beneficial. If possible always visit a program and listen to both the good and the bad whenever possible. You need to hear what works and what doesnt to help make an objective decision about what might benefit your son. I read  you post and it brought up many sad memories. Its devastating for a child to lose a parent. I had a number of students that had and the loss they felt was beyond words for me. I know how I fell just trying to imagine their pain.

I wish that some of you anon posters would show a little empathy. I believe jellybean is doing the best she can so lay off the shit. Try puting yourself in someone elses shoes for a change.

[ This Message was edited by: Shortbus on 2005-09-01 05:12 ][ This Message was edited by: Shortbus on 2005-09-01 05:20 ]

Have you thought about mixing things up a bit and using your left hand? Or sitting on your right hand long enough for it to fall asleep?

I couldnt help myself. My bad.

cool. thanks. that rocked.

So Deborah, is this true or is anon making things up?

Im waving a white flag at you and youre just pain in the butt. Apparently you have no interest in clearing up the misunderstanding. Just throw me a bone and while youre at it could you answer the questions I asked in my last post?

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Its never too late to procrastinate[ This Message was edited by: Shortbus on 2005-08-27 13:35 ]