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Aspen Education Group / Another detainee has got support groups on the internet
« on: March 19, 2009, 01:46:53 AM »
REID'S GONE!!, a group on Myspace
We need to get Reid back to Michigan, like, right fuckin' now a group on facebook

I hope that youth in the future would start to care when one of their classmates suddenly disappear from their class. It is good to see that people are becoming less self-centered.

What if your former classmates had done the same?

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Oceanside: WWASP working with (bribing) the authorities
« on: March 18, 2009, 04:41:45 AM »
I have an idea but I have a problem. I dont speak servant.

I believe that some of you should sit down down and write a polite letter to this president of theirs like this English mother did.

http://http://foros.fox.presidencia.gob.mx/read.php?5,135800

You may also target those people in charge locally despite that they may be in the pocket of the school.

I think that the president dont like Mexico to be the garbage can for the United States and he need to know that the world thinks so if these "schools" continue to exist in his country.

Just remember. He might not be in control in this area, but he believe that he is important and thats why you need to write the letters as you were standing and looking up to him for the letters to have effect.

You may also address Amnesty telling about the trafficing of youth across borders without the government in Mexico taking action. They might have lost control of their northen parts of their country to the drug lords and are focused on that right now, but if the continued existence of these schools should be noticed by others than various survivor boards.

Maybe some of you will come to remember dark time when you write a letter in Spanish, but then think about all those 14-16 year olds who are about to get their lives destroyed.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Oceanside: WWASP working with (bribing) the authorities
« on: March 17, 2009, 02:51:18 PM »
I got this comment on our wiki page

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This "prison" has saved my daughters life, so you can kiss my ass. I am pretty sure you have no idea. There are Mexican authorities, as in Federal Police officers, that are inside guarding the school, 24 hours a day. These kids that are there are not normal, my own experience was one of trying everything, and she still almost died due to drug use, and would have. So get a grip you bunch of assholes. People like you are the reason these schools even have to exist now, so cram it as far as you can.

This poor parent obivous fall into the trap of parent LGAT seminars. We cannot do anything to remove the damage, but it provides us with the valuable information that they have been able to pay themselves into the local police force. Right now the situation in the nothern Mexico are almost out of control and we believe that the police have to find sponsors in order to have weapons matching the weapons the criminals have. So it is very likely that they have a similar agreement with the police as they had with the police force in Thompson Falls where the cars, radios and uniforms all were sponsored by WWASP.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: worried about getting sent back
« on: March 17, 2009, 01:06:46 AM »
Just information: It is not a troll according to one of our case workers.

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Open Free for All / Re: how to start a group home for troubled teens
« on: March 16, 2009, 05:39:13 PM »
Where is a group home needed and what is the target group. It is the question you have to ask yourself first. No group home in the world can fix all problems. That is the first mistake many group homes and programs make.

I believe that a group home should be for kids from the local neighborhood. Properly the best solution would be if the group home was combined with both the local high school and a home work cafeteria. (A cafeteria where students with poor grades can hang out and get coaching from nerds who are paid for their effort. A huge problem with both programs and group homes are that the youth are cut off their social network. You cannot underestimate the value of a social network - both good or bad.

In Denmark we have a very smart youth. As any other kids of their age they will try all kind of new stuff and act like adult without realizing that they are not prepared.

You can take a thing like cannabis. We have several hot-lines where kids can phone in a get drug-treatment. It is the kids who is on the phone. No the parents. They are too busy! As always with Google the article is poorly translated but it paints the picture.

10-year-olds treated for cannabis (Denmarks Radio)

How are they treated? Because it is their choice to seek help they are treated out-patient. If they go to the authorities and demand removal they can get lucky to end up in a group home or a continuation school. There are always too few money, so some have to settle with living by parents who are drug-users or alcoholics.

In the old days until a few years ago the group homes and continuation school was placed in remote areas, but recently the politicians have learned the need for both types of facilities near the home and family of the youth.

If you really want to help children, seek out a neighborhood where drug use and shootings are everyday incidents. Offer a structured day to youth who wants structure. They exist and they are not few. Youth want boundaries but most of all they want honesty so don't oversell the solution. Of course there are not very much income generated from a group home runned for the right reason, so you need to work with both the local authorties and the local schools. Maybe they havn't a DAEP program and that it good because youth who violate rules should be kept in the general student environment and suffer consequences there regardless of the severeness of their offense.

Last but not least: Leave therapy to professionals and hospitals.

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Peninsula Village / Re: PV Staff Laugh While Restraining A Crying Baby!
« on: March 15, 2009, 03:15:06 PM »
OK. After being hammered of being a alcohol or drug user during their 12 step programming enough so he believed it in the end starting to drink, the parents still feel like that people should give money to the very program, which learned him all about alcohol he need to up on the roof and fall.

http://http://www.legacy.com/StarTribune/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=124994817

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Lone Star Expeditions
« on: March 14, 2009, 03:56:05 PM »
According to our founder problems with the software and their provider gives Cafety some trouble right now.

Not the best timing considering that the industry is on the run and shoud be kept running.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / News: Academy at Ivy Ridge will "restructure"
« on: March 14, 2009, 03:30:49 AM »
Director: Ivy Ridge to close until fall, by By MAX R. MITCHELL, Watertown Daily Times, March 12 2009

The detainees will be transferred to other prisons - some properly to Oceanside.

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Let's talk about the weather... / 10 Things Your Private School Won't Tell You - from FoxNews
« on: March 11, 2009, 03:23:29 PM »
10 Things Your Private School Won't Tell You, FoxNews

1) "We're not as exclusive as you think."
2) "Okay, we have money problems. What startup doesn't?"
3) "Don't expect much guidance from our guidance counselors."
4) "Sure, we've had students get into Yale — just not lately."
5) "Your kid will get abused."
6) "Our credentials are bogus."
7) "Beware of our boards. They can be pretty pushy."
8) "Our 'tough love' methods are, well, tough."
9) "Our extracurriculars are extra-imaginary."
10) "That five-figure tuition check won't cut it, folks."

Interesting!

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Measurement of Success
« on: March 11, 2009, 09:04:48 AM »
There are troubled youth here in Denmark too. Right now I wear a bullet proof vest to work for the same reason. It is a number of gangs shooting at each other and they have managed to killed more innocent bystanders than gangmembers so far.

We have searched for solutions and of course programs has been investigated too. Not only by Spft but also by our politicians. Some of them are traveling around the world right now.

If I look for solutions which could be used here in Denmark, I had to say that I like the peer court concept.

We know that every kind of inpatient treatment or jail should be avoided if possible. Outpatient treatment are 10-15 times cheaper, so you can reach out to a larger group. A jail-cell in Denmark cost 350-400 dollars every 24H. Our guards are not armed because we dont want hostage situations so the police are used as backup and shoots inmates if they run. It is easier out in the open than inside a jail.

It is the same with our group homes for juveniles - even the secure ones. They are not big in size because larger facilities makes it more difficult for the staff to concentrate on solving individual issues.

We advocate for the Peer court concept to be used here because giving a youth a criminal record or probation gives no meaning. The specific part of the human brain which takes care of long-term consequences are not fully developed by humans until they reach 18-20 years of age. Thats why some can research improvement and state that "they grew out of it" regardless if they are warehoused or not.

So a consequence have to be short. It has to start soon after the violation has been committed. It has to be a learning experience too. Not only for the person on trail but for peers so they can see how quickly a poor descision can be taken.

If you established a system where parents without fear of a criminal record could help the authorities to solve crimes committed by their children, programs will die or the number largely reduced.

For some being placed before a peer court would be a confrontational group therapy , but it will be done within the limits of the law because every peer court procedure has to be monitored by real lawyers, socialworkers and judges.

We are by no mean a perfect country regardless our effort in the 11'th crusade against heathens. We can learn something from your culture. You have 1 out of 100 citizens locked out in prisons and programs without any improvement of security in our society. We don't need to go there. But you also have something which can work and that we will try to take and improve.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Re: New Pathway Website
« on: March 09, 2009, 05:16:45 AM »
I just want to greet you from Covergaard who says that he is sorry that he didn't do enough to be on the "critics" page.

We will work on it.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / WWASP / Teen Revitalization developing their program
« on: March 06, 2009, 04:09:39 AM »
WWASP is hit hard by numerous investigations. Several programs have been shut down.

For many years they have used the same program strategy with six levels. The numbers of seminars have changed but the six levels remained.

Royal Gorge was a spin-off and maybe trial for a more open version of the original program.

Now it seems that they are trying to develop wilderness programs and a short-term scared straight program.

1) The scared straight program is offered by Oceanside Teen Center in the old Motel Carmino Inn in Rosarito, Mexico

2) The new wilderness program is offered at Star Peak Crossing a couple of miles down the road from Spring Creek Lodge. The program owners are the well-known Camerons. It is the second time they tried to enter the wilderness business since August cooked to death at Skyline Journey. While the leading staff of Skyline still run Distant Drums Beginning also known as Reality Trek, it remains unsolved if they have something to do with WWASP today other than sharing marketing firms.

It seems that they are trying to move more in direction of Aspen Education and UHSINC, which both have programs adressing a lot of issues using several types of programs.

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Midwest changes directors?
« on: March 05, 2009, 08:28:11 AM »
She hasn't a clue. From another message board:

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Education
I am in 9th grade. I will most likely not go to public school next year, due to the many opportunities I have with my music. My father owns Private Boarding Schools for struggling teens, so I may do that curriculum next year, so that I can travel, perform, and possibly do some film. I really want to get into acting, and have 2 writers working on finishing up a film for me and my group, about a teen band... it is a great story!! We are really excited to get working on that film.
She has absolutely no idea what that curriculum would do to her!

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World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS) / Re: Midwest changes directors?
« on: March 05, 2009, 01:01:24 AM »
I actually saw the daughter on the screen during the trials.

"We started to sing at Samoa. We moved to the states because they (parents) wanted us to become famous."

They were lied at. They moved because the authorities forced the program to shut down. What else were they lied about. It seems that the family lives in Utah and the facility is located out of state. Have the kids even been visiting the school at "parents work day" or something like that?

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Open Free for All / Re: Passages Malibu
« on: March 04, 2009, 05:17:40 PM »
As I see it the critical article I have seen is an attack made by supporters of step systems.

In Denmark the official Denmark has made an attack against the faith based programs. The Minnesota treatment in various forms is the most widespread step program in use.

The best result are made by treatment of the relatives. Projects like U-turn in Copenhagen has analyzed the treatment industry in the states and they found that underneath all the fine marketing the day-to-day "treatment" is done by either peers or lowpaid staff to cut costs. Please point to a program where all the staff is qualified. I havn't found it.

So U-turn teach the parents to be mini-therapists. Instead of judging cuttings, drug use and the few cases of binge-drinking which exist so they can get their own children to talk with them rather than shout at them. The result is that most of the drug-treatment remain out-patient, which is cheaper.

No home contract. Zero-tolorance creates secrets, but the parents have to make a statement rather than being afraid of raising the issue.

Let me be clear about one thing. I don't like drug use. I prefer alcohol. It is safer because all alcohol sold in our shop is controlled and checked to see if the standard is upheld. Drugs could be safer it they were sold under control, but they are not. Pushers mix all kind of stuff into the drugs to create more profit and some of the stuff are poison that kills people. That doesn't mean that one should not have respect for alcohol. Alcohol should not be a habit. It should not be something you need to drink in order to do something.

I believe that there should be a treatment industry. I don't care how people can free themselves of an addiction as long as it is done while perserving the clients  dignity. Last but not least I believe that 99% of all this treatment can be done out-patient, if the relatives choose to take the time to learn about the problem rather than shutting down.

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