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Gotta edit this one, bring it back later.[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-12-21 02:01 ]

We, the survivors and advocates against child abuse; who are for child rights and laws that are to be upheld all over the world, who are sworn to uphold the rights to children against being molested, coerced, and kept from their inherent right to freedom from all harm and confusion wrought by those who are lawless and tyrannical against the full pursuit of all happiness: we do hereby and solemnly commit and heretofore make the date of August 8th a credo and day for awareness. National Child Abuse Awareness Day is now forever known as a day to remember the children who have exceeded the expectations of abusive parents, priests, absent teachers, and all institution owners.  On National Child Abuse Awareness Day we will remember that children are equal to adults in their rights to freedom and liberty and everything that the constitution implies.

This is in light and in direct correspondence with the unregistered pedophile Betty Sembler and to all of her family who were involved in or near the holocaustic methods of child abusing that were exacted at Straight Incorporated. These include such names that you can think of who have racketeered child abuse and continually boasted about it.  

From yesterday, here today and forever more, National Child Abuse Awareness day shall be on August 8th and never again will the unregisterd pedophile Betty Sembler be allowed to reign over the rights and freedoms and civil liberties of children.

We urge you to spread any news you have and to educate the public on Child Abuse Awareness Day.  The effects of educations and raising awareness about prevention and punishment of child abuse will in turn detract the actions of child abusers and pedophiles like Betty Sembler, and could stop the prevention of the United States President, George W. Bush, from hindering the inevatible child offices of United Nations and UNICEF articles which he refuses to ratify because of the loss he would suffer due to offering children the rights to govern themselves and educate themselves according to the law written before Bush.  George W. Bush, you WILL remove, from your employ, Betty and Melvin Sembler who are unregistered pedophiles and are wanted in questioning for the abuse and molestations of more than 50,000 children nationwide; lest you become labled a pedophile yourself.

When the government ceases to be for the people, the people will rise up and take back what is theirs.  National Child Abuse Awareness Day is in action and will be noticed and duly noted for August 8th from this day forward infinite.

[ This Message was edited by: animals all of us on 2004-09-26 00:30 ]

If you know me, you know I don't back down.

The thing is, when I see others who suffer - I do what some others do ... my heart gets pissed off.  I want to help.

Sometimes I miss some of you.  Not because I really know you, not because I knew any of you before Straight Inc.  In fact, I don't know anyone from my time @ Straight.

I speak to people all the time who are into helping children, pushing legislation, and all that non profit goodness.  It is a good thing altogether.

The thing that makes me so tired, and hungry, and relentless, and angry

is knowing that others out there have suffered, and knowing that they are maintaining a certain in their conversations with people and things like Big Brother, beaurocrats, and the people who would otherwise be content to call them useless or whatever if they knew about the past.

I really hear the sincerity when I speak to people on the phone, they know my pain - they were there. or they are trying to help.

I just want it to end.  I want it to stop.  I feel that they are not doing enough, or that somehow a war should begin, or that I am powerless somehow to change what has happened.  More than anything I hate wasted efforts.

All the careful planning, talking to calm me down or tell me to tone it the fuck down - you're right if you say I have no integrity.  For this I apologize if I have offended you, I do.

Protesting, conventions, and thoughts and conversations about the things involved with Straight Inc.  It just seems like a big farce if nothing came of it.  I get some good feelings when I do those things, I get good feeling when I tell people.  But maybe I'm telling the wrong people.
 
Has it really changed anything?  Has it changed the way people view things?  Has it changed legislation on limitation statutes?  There is hope as long as I'm alive, I understand that, but I am losing hope.  

I see people who have lost loved ones as a result of Straight Inc.  I see people who have disabilities, and crazy people who really pour their hearts out to get some things done.  But I don't see any changes.

I keep proposing one last effort to bring some together.  A concerted effort that makes the president's fans look meager to what I envision.  The world will know that we are huge and that what was done to me, to us, cannot be agreed upon or tolerated or made an example of how it is to treat children/adults so negligently.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, I know that most of you know what I'm saying.  So why can't we come together and fight?  I want to fight.  I want to stick it to the man?  I have several ideas I would like to discuss with you, ideas that are legal, and ideas that WILL work if they are mitigated and carefully planned.  Ideas, that if they are kept carefully, they cannot slip through the greasy fingers of the greased pockets of beaurocrats and judges.

I have said my piece.

I don't understand when others come to chat on this forum and they say things like, "Sembler is my excuse for my fucked up life"; or "My life is crazy so I blame it on Straight".  I dont' understand what that means.

Do those who say that I use Straight, as an excuse for my life being messed up and have wicked disabilities as a result of, mean that what happened to me @ Straight Inc (child abuse wharehouse) was not so bad?  Or do they mean that child abuse is okay, seriously, and that it has no consequences to the victim and that abuse happens to everyone and 'life' is like that so move on?  I really do not know what is meant by using Straight as some excuse.  If you have said this statement before, I just don't really think it makes any sense to say that to a human unless you are masking your own mofing pain.

That's my two poor cents for now.  You heard?

I guess I'm an 'idea person'.  I come from a family, on my dad's side, of inventors.  We like to work with our hands and get a rush from developing ideas.  What is a more stable rush though is following an idea through to completion.  

In the meantime, I try to write down ideas so to calm my racing brain sometimes.  I was thinking of slogan's that could go on bumper stickers or go on flyers and stuff; quotes that put experiences in little neat messy boxes.  

"I was raped in Straight (www.thestraights.com)".

"Kill Melvin Sembler".

"School is for learning, Straight Inc. is for motherfuckers".

"Melvin Sembler is a pussy".

"Walter Loebenberg likes children".

"Miller Newton is almost dead".

Just some ideas for little slogans to punch fuckers in the head maybe.  Please add some really good or not so good slogans with sarcasm or realism here if you want to ...

I notice there is an underlying sentiment that there are still people out there in the world who will seek to do us harm.

I have logged in under anonymous names at many times.  I, too, find it very ambiguous that at all the protests, rallies and other shit I've been to in the name of Survivors of Straight - I have always been told to Calm Down and keep quiet.  I find that very odd.  I have been lied to and shut out by many who you believe are to be heroes in our cause.

So, I think its safe to perceive that several people who do log in as anonymous are very afraid.  I still imagine that Melvin Sembler is out there hiring some old Straight graduates who still believe in abusing children - and they are getting paid to find those who are against Sembler, gather information and report it back to Sembler.  Perhaps that is paranoia, but it is best to be more careful when you reveal yourself.

I am not disdaining being anonymous.  I just wonder what it is that stops you from revealing yourself.  

One reason I do it in here is that I sometimes take the opposite viewpoint of others when topics are discussed.  Because this ID Here is the survivor.  I have found it beneficial to be anonymous and discuss the topics with others because it brings out their true points when they are not watching or blocking their intentions.

Why do YOU post anonymously?

I probably go and have gone through several of the processes of healing and questioning and paranoia that anyone who comes to this board goes through.

Very needy of trusting and needy of friends who have been through those experiences in Straight.  To wind up feeling sorry that I spoke to those people because they're still just as untrustworthy as before like the ones in the program I was in.

Some people took only a few years to get back to health and out of the programming and mindset/brainwash they had become.  Some had family support and were able to get counseling or other help and support to make them productive citizens nearly as soon as they got out.  Some.

Others or maybe most, at least the ones I remember that are like you and me, didn't get off so easy.  Some got lucky and turned eighteen and got to walk out.  Some, like me, wouldn't turn eighteen for three years or more - and would be let out on there eighteenth birthday give or take a year or so when the inner mind wakes up and says no more, or whatever.

For me, its taken several years, about ten or fifteen, to remember those things that have happened back in Straight Inc.  I've had to go back through the fear and watching over my back, I've had to go through hell with the criminal justice system lately - because so much has suddenly come back to me that I felt it necessary to be reckless with people again - yelling at them, spitting on them, cursing.  Being reckless in my car was my way of getting it out.  Fortunately, I hadn't ever done any drugs until after I got out of treatment.  Much self medication.  But, fortunately for real this time, it was a phase to mask alot of pain I was having.  I didn't get that family support, boo hoo for me, as the folks were divorced and you know how that goes if you've been in that situation.

This newer phase is one of getting even and getting retribution, finding ways to end the pain or go back and somehow make myself feel better about the past or justify it somehow.  Most of the ones I know who are on the inside and close to Melvin Sembler and his philanthropist causes have done their dead level best to get as much information on me as possible.  'Give us your date of birth and address'.  That's all someone needs to figure you out.

Beyond all this personal shit though, I always have questions.  Like I said, my life is a little slower because I simply do not have family support as some may.  This is not good or bad on a conversation level, it is merely a factual statement.  In my journey toward a healthier and fuller me I still have questions about the past.  Here they are:

1.  In Straight Inc. there were always these guys in our group that could do no wrong it seemed.  I wonder sometimes how did Straight Inc. get started.  I mean, if there were no patients to work up the phases, how did it start.  I reckon it was just staffers.  But, sometimes my imagination of imperialism gets the better of me.  Those phasers who just seemed to be the best role models and have the best host homes - they were in and out in about a year more or less.  I have to wonder was there ever a time when Straight Inc. or its sponsors may have been paying families to indoctrinate their healthy children into programs.  Indoctrinate them as role models for children who were really in some bad way doing not so good or whatever.  You get me ?  Like, did Straight pay to have role models come into the phases.  

2.  I've been looking at alot of court documents while hanging around the court house here and there.  I noticed that back a few years ago Richard Bradbury had some type of civil claim against him.  The Plaintiff in this case was again Melvin Sembler.  He was bringing suit against Ray for slander.  I didn't get the whole skinny on it, but I did notice it.  Its public record.  I do find it odd somehow, given the whole apparatus of events surrounding Ray B.  

3.  Is there any way we can get a message to Italy and let them know what and who Melvin is ?

You know....one of my favorite things that I miss about Straight Inc. is telling people off.  I do that alot lately.  I may be in a chat room and start needlessly slandering others.  It feels good.  It is a really bad habit I am breaking, but its not easy when you had made a habit of it and didn't find much else to do in Straight or after you got out.  For all those years I didn't remember what happened to me in Straight it was as if people looked at me and could tell something was not right underneath.  Perhaps now its not so underneath which gives me some type of better start with health or nearby.  But, its more than just needless counseling.  Its not a free trip like before.  As a child if someone didn't want me spitting in their face they could get restrained.  I know all of you out there, and I say it with total assurance, if I tried that shit with you I might literally be murdered.  You catch anyone on the street on a bad day and try and offer them real advice or sympathy and you may get knocked the fuck out.   So, I'm careful how I do it.  I can't get caught for slander or yelling at random anonymous people in a chat room.  It's more of an honesty thing though.  It's more funny when you just start sporatically fucking with people, especially when you've caught them off guard.  And you can wax it like its not this way, but you know damn well most people would wait for the chance to tell you something when you are not on your guard.  Nowadays when I tell people off its because I realize that every person at any time is going to look for an excuse to kick back so they don't have to deal with whatever it is I'm going to tell them off about.  This society I am in now is not so fucking anal as Straight was.  I would never wish to be back in such hell, but I am glad that if I saw anyone of the staff who used to do me or do me in, I would know now how to handle them.

Could someone please tell me the name(s) of the Insurance Company(ies) who held Straight Incorporated's policy between the years 1985 to 1989.  Please and thank you.  Greg, do you know ?  
Anyone ?  This would help tremendously.  I have been searching court records but and I found Karen Norton's case, and some others, but St. Paul didn't hold the policy in the late 80s.  They only held it in the early 80s.  
Any facts leading to those times would be good.
Thanks again.