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He didn't go to Elan, but that has nothing to do with it.

Sorry, my mistake. This thread just looked so similar to all of the Elan infighting threads that I assumed it was more of the same. I mean, I expect it from you and Danny, but Eric going "Learn some respect, young man" (as if that's not going to antagonize anything) just sounds like something Art would say.

Personally I don't believe any of the claims made about anyone by anyone in this thread. For fuck's sake, people. Cut the shit, all three of you. Yet another post is not going to convince anyone of anything nor will it do anything but prompt yet another retaliatory post. Just shut the hell up and stop clogging this forum with yet another multi-dozen-page (that's where this is going) round of bullshit. Come after me if you want. Anything, anything, ANYTHING but another round of sickening personal-attack infighting like we had a few years back.

I swear, if you put any two people from Elan (no seriously, any two) and a knife in the same room, one or both of them would be dead within three minutes.

What the fuck did they do to you in there?

They'll probably send meaningless demand letters, but there's no case and they're probably smart enough to keep this out of a courtroom. This isn't libel or slander, as he isn't accusing them of doing anything they aren't actually doing. Their clients may be incensed about being called pedophiles, but unfortunately they are pedophiles...

''I asked him the other day, 'How do you think the boot camp helped you?' '' Ms. Saunders said. ''And he said, 'It taught me how to recognize my own negative behavior and to recognize it when I see it in other people and to steer clear of them.'

''And I was shocked. He's 12 years old,'' the mother added. ''To hear him say that to me, it told me it was a good thing that I did take him to boot camp. It really paid off.''

You stupid fucking cunt, it wasn't supremely obvious that he was just saying this by rote? That not only did he not mean a word of it, he doesn't even know what those words mean?

KB, there are a lot of people on this board who have direct personal experience who have been through this themselves and can presumably talk to her parents in language they'll understand completely. Consider giving her parents' name and number to people like Ursus (in case they haven't asked you already).

Oh man. This is great stuff if you know how to read between the lines.

Here's Alex Stavros. Extremely good odds it's the same guy. Here's proof that he just graduated from Stanford.

So, this new graduate from Stanford comes out feeling like a million bucks, gets someone to loan him more than that much, and promptly blows it on the worst investment he could possibly make short of betting on professional wrestling.

Then, if you read the later CALO blog posts, you can tell that upper management is either jumping ship or he's throwing them out to replace them with his friends. You can bet your left nut Ken hates this fucker with a passion.

I find it absolutely hilarious that some dipshit with an MBA and no clues is doing what Proxied never could.

Still astounded that nobody, including the authorities, has forcibly emptied this place. The "No shocking of new students" should have happened twenty years ago, and spells its death knell; without the shocking, JRC has no reason to exist.

Makes me wonder what "Dr." Israel is doing in his retirement.