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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Charles Pendergrass????
« on: January 25, 2006, 05:47:00 PM »
Is this who I think it is??? found at
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/fishing/gal ... sept.html#

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Observation of the moment
« on: January 25, 2006, 12:42:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-25 04:41:00, dragonfly wrote:

"I'm thinking more and more that juvenile "delinquents" are this cultures canaries in the coal mines.



I'm thinking that when a teen sees the lies and double standards and BS that adult reality entails it might be healthy to rebel rather desperately.



And if you are committed to being true to yourself, to what you sense as true, and begin going against this sick society and come to believe that that is the only way to be true it can get out of hand.



But what about honoring the delenquents sense of truth? what about empowering the rebel?



I keep thinking, "What is my solution? What is the way to address our failing culture?



I have a grand vision of developing a curriculum for child prisoners, like an art school in place of prison. Teach them to create. It's all rosy glasses and all but I am pursuing this vision and telling folks about it who work with youth at risk etc.



Any thoughts are welcome. "


Art School in place of a prison :lol:  :lol: Yeah finger painting will really help that little 16 year old bastard that beat my grannys head in with a bat for $2.00 fucking dollars. Oh here you little methed out gang banger make a clay pot you will feel much better.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... orum=33&29

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Let It Bleed / Something you listened to today
« on: November 10, 2005, 09:03:00 AM »
Al Green, "Love and Happiness","Let's stay Together"
"Tired of Being Alone"

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / rational ralph touched my junk!!!!!!!!!
« on: October 25, 2005, 05:31:00 PM »
Dam where the fuck was irrational Rachel at when this was going on ?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / I just
« on: October 25, 2005, 05:22:00 PM »
No NO NO, wait No No NO wait ahhh lets REALLY DO IT FOR SAMMIE NOW!!!!!yahhhhhh, Yipppeee Rah Rah, ahhhhh shit wrong thread again. Oh well smoke if ya got it[ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2005-10-25 14:24 ]

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Tacitus' Realm / Patroleum Substitues and Kerry
« on: October 14, 2005, 05:04:00 PM »
Give me a fucking break, there is no oil shortage, crude is not fossil fuel it comes from too far deep in the earth to justify that. The only reason they lead you sheeple to believe that is to jack up the price and stick it in your ass. We will not run out of oil do a google on it or talk to any geologist its a fact and you guys are buying it hook line and sinker. We are not allowed to drill in the states, that keeps us dependent on the middle east.Its hype Mr. Dumbass Gore is full of it, even that arrogant fuck owns a SUV.

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Tacitus' Realm / IMPEACH BUSH NOW
« on: September 07, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »
Ginger, all I meant by my post was shit rolls down hill. From Bush who DOES NOT HAVE my support, to the Mayor of New Orleans they all fucked up and failed the people. It is a sad day, and you are right they do not give a shit, at least until it?s their ass on the line for causing thousands of deaths by not providing or should I say following an evacuation plan. Some people that had the means to leave stayed that?s their fault but my heart aches for the people who did not have the means, the children that died and will die saddens me. I blame Bush, FEMA, The Gov, and the Mayor. Don't get me wrong they didn't cause the hurricane as some idiots seem to claim but they failed to save thousands of lives by sitting back on their laurels and pointing fingers. My company is currently working with relief efforts, I will be heading down their in a few days to assist in rebuilding communications networks destroyed in the hurricane, I am all ready sick to my stomach to imagine what I will see.

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Tacitus' Realm / IMPEACH BUSH NOW
« on: September 07, 2005, 12:31:00 PM »
Let's not forget The Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana and all the other grand standing finger pointing politicians. There is enough blame to go around especially the Mayor and Gov, those two incompetent dumb asses were the first ones in line and they failed to save the people who had no means of leaving N.O. and to be prepared.
Talk about piss poor leadership from the top to the bottom, Bush all the way to the Mayor of New Orleans makes me sick.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / 13 steps
« on: July 23, 2005, 01:17:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-21 14:55:00, thepatriot wrote:

"1. We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable?.and we are totally fine with that.



2. We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity?

but figured if a Power could do that, then it could easily create a Flinstone's chewable, liver rejuvenation pill.

 
3. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him?as long as he is buying.



4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves?

and promptly lost the paper work.

 
5. We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our

wrongs ?right before our flight home from Vegas.



6. We were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character?

but then we realized how boring we?d be and decided against it.



7. We humbly asked  Him to remove our shortcomings?. and the brain cells that control the  hangovers.



8. We made a list of all persons we had harmed,  and became willing to make amends to

them all?if only they hadn't deserved it.



9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would

injure them or others?or somehow make us look like Animals(the idiot that posts here).



10. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it?except when discussing sports, religion, politics and who bought the last round.



11. We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as

we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out?but after all that seeking we were parched and figured a really good bloody- mary could do pretty much the same thing.

 
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs?but the first few addicts were real downers so we decided it was better left alone.



13 Stop whining and just deal with it in the morning like the rest of us. "

/bump

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / Anniversaries
« on: July 23, 2005, 01:16:00 PM »
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9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would
injure them or others?or somehow make us look like Animals(the idiot that posts here).


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Tacitus' Realm / Supreme Court Rules Cities May Seize Homes
« on: June 24, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-24 12:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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"Bush has not appointed a single Judge, he has nothing to do with the decision, he cannot affect it, it had nothing to do with him."




What the heck do you love about Bush so much? What, if anything positive has he done?"


Not a matter of loving Bush, he did not appoint these Judges. Once was appointed by Ford, one by Carter, on by BushI, one by Reagan and one by Clinton. By lets face every dam one of them on the hill Dem or Repub don't give a shit your property or mine. But if we keep allowing these rogue senile judges to do to do this shit. Welcome to Soviet Russia

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Tacitus' Realm / The Troops, Support Them Denzel Washington does
« on: June 23, 2005, 11:26:00 PM »
Don't know whether you heard about this but Denzel Washington and his family visited the troups at Brook Army Medical Center, in San Antonio,Texas (BAMC) the other day. This is where soldiers that have been evacuated from Germany come to be hospitalized in the States, especially burn victims. They have buildings there called Fisher Houses. The Fisher House is a hotel where soldiers' families can stay, for little or no charge, while their soldier is staying in the hospital. BAMC has quite a few of these houses on base but as you can imagine, they are almost completely filled most of the time.

While Denzel Washington was visiting BAMC, they gave him a tour of one of the Fisher Houses. He asked how much one of them would cost to build. He took his check book out and wrote a check for the full amount right there on the spot. The soldiers overseas were amazed to hear this story and want to get the word out to the American public, because it warmed their hearts to hear it.

The question I have is why does Alec Baldwin, Madonna, Sean Penn and other Hollywood types make front page news with their anti-everything America junk and this doesn't even make page 3 in the Metro section of any newspaper except the base newspaper in San Antonio???!!!  
 
P.S.  Here is the official website for Fisher Houses, in case you're skeptical.
 
 
http://www.fisherhouse.org/

A good friend in the service also emailed me pictues his wife took while Denzel was there if you are interested email me at [email protected]
[ This Message was edited by: thepatriot on 2005-06-23 20:28 ]

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On 2005-06-22 11:01:00, Antigen wrote:

"Yeah, it does! And Niles spotted that story somewhere else and posted about it to Troubled Teen. Where did you find it?



Interesting shit, no? WTF! We've been belly aching about this shit for decades now w/o getting a whole lot of sympathy. But when it comes to a gay kid, the story seems to have legs? WTF!!!



Ok, lowball, lowbrow time. Anybody out there get sent to Straight or similar program, in part because your parents thought (rightly or not) that you were gay???

It's an incredible con job when you think of it, to believe something now in exchange for life after death. Even corporations with all their reward systems don't try to make it posthumous.
--Gloria Steinam, women's rights activist


"


yeah no shit Ginger, I guess if we would have had the internet in the Sarasota days we could have made some waves. But I guess alot of people don't want to hear it from a adult talking in past terms.

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Check this link

http://www.houstonvoice.com/2005/6-17/n ... n-teen.cfm

NATIONAL NEWS

Teen blogs on forced trip to ?ex-gay? camp
16-year-old says coming out prompted action by parents

By DYANA BAGBY
Friday, June 17, 2005

A Tennessee teen is claiming in a blog that he was forcibly admitted into an ?ex-gay? camp by his parents after coming out as gay, gaining attention from media outlets and gay activists.

Zach, a 16-year-old from Bartlett, Tenn., was sent to the camp Refuge, associated with Love In Action near Memphis June 6 and is to remain there at least until June 20, according to his June 3 blog entry.

Love In Action, an ex-gay ministry, is accredited by the ex-gay group Exodus International and supported by numerous area churches in Memphis. Officials with the ministry on Wednesday would not confirm whether the teen was enrolled. A friend contacted by this newspaper would not confirm Zach?s full name. His parents could also not be identified.

Gay activists tracking the teen?s plight have organized daily protests since June 6 outside Love In Action?s facility in Memphis. The organization scheduled a press conference for June 16, after this publication?s press deadline, to address the growing controversy.

?LIA is calling upon the community to extend open-minded consideration and tolerance towards young people with same-sex attraction who are currently undergoing the organization?s youth program called Refuge,? according to a press statement from the organization.

Wayne Besen, a gay author who tracks the ?ex-gay? movement, said the teen is likely to experience psychological damage.

?This is significant child abuse,? said Besen, author of ?Anything But Straight: Unmasking the Scandals & Lies Behind the Ex-Gay Myth.?

 

?Raised me wrong?
On May 29, the teen blogged that his parents sat him down and told him he was going to a ?fundamentalist Christian program for gays.?

?They tell me that there is something psychologically wrong with me, and they ?raised me wrong.? I?m a big screw up to them, who isn?t on the path God wants me to be on. So I?m sitting here in tears, [joining] the rest of those kids who complain about their parents on blogs ? and I can?t help it,? Zach wrote.

?I?ve been through hell. I?ve been emotionally torn apart for three days... I can?t remember which days they were ? time?s not what it used to be,? the teen wrote in his last blog entry, posted June 3.

The teen also posted what he said were an exhaustive set of rules for Refuge that were e-mailed to his parents: ?No hugging or physical touch between clients. Brief handshakes or a brief affirmative hand on a shoulder is allowed ?

?[Love In Action] wants to encourage each client, male and female, by affirming his/her gender identity,? the rules continued. ?LIA also wants each client to pursue integrity in all of his/her actions and appearances. Therefore, any belongings, appearances, clothing, actions, or humor that might connect a client to an inappropriate past are excluded from the program.

?These hindrances are called False Images,? according to the rules. ?F.I. behavior may include hyper-masculinity, seductive clothing, mannish/boyish attire (on women), excessive jewelry (on men), mascoting, and ?campy? or gay/lesbian behavior and talk.?

Camp participants are also forbidden specifically from wearing any clothing by Calvin Klein or Abercrombie & Fitch.

Refuge offers a two-week program for $1,500 and a six-week program for $4,000, according to its Web site. Since its inception three years ago, the program has hosted more than 20 participants, according to Rev. John Smid, Love In Action?s executive director, who is married to a woman and claims to have left behind ?the homosexual lifestyle,? if not same-sex attractions.

 

?Founded upon deception??
Gay bloggers and allies who track the teen?s thoughts about being sent to the program created additional blogs to support the teen and refute the reparative therapy practiced by Love In Action.
Blogger ?Zach,? 16, of Bartlett, Tenn.

Supporters also took part in daily demonstrations that started June 6, Zach?s apparent first day in the program, at Love In Action?s Memphis headquarters.

?The history of organizations like Love In Action are founded upon deception and have been proven ineffective and damaging to people,? said Morgan Fox, an organizer of Queer Action Coalition who said she is a friend of Zach?s.

The coalition formed in direct response to the teen?s blogs, Fox said.

?He?s probably been there about two weeks. But they shut you off from the world when you?re in,? Fox said.

Zach?s blog indicates that his cell phone had been taken from him and he only accessed his computer to post a blog entry by waiting until his parents were asleep.

About 30 people take part in the daily protests, said Kevin Gilliland, a member of the Memphis Gay & Lesbian Community Center.

?We?re in the buckle of the Bible Belt, and [the teen] has brought a lot of attention to [the ex-gay movement]. A lot of the people protesting are teens. This is an issue of psychological abuse,? Gilliland said.

 

?Obligation? of parents
Supporters of the teen are e-mailing Love In Action to express their opposition to the program, said Smid, who underwent the program in 1987 and is now the center?s executive director.

?It appears to me, from what I am hearing, they feel a sense of bond with other young people and they desire to rescue them,? Smid said in an interview Wednesday.

Smid declined to comment specifically about Zach. But he said parents of gay teens have an obligation to teach their children to live ?healthy lifestyles.?

?There has to be a safeguard ? other than a condom. We need to work with the mind and intellect [of gay teens],? he said.

Smid acknowledged the teen blogger?s posts highlighted a breakdown in communication among the family members and that Refuge works as a ?bridge? to facilitate a better relationship between teens

and their parents.

Smid said Refuge?s rules, including a ban on secular music, specifically including non-Christian classical music by Bach or Beethoven, are critical to the success of the program.

?While here, they only listen to Christ-centered music to help ponder their lives,? Smid said. ?We try to minimize external resources and make sure they?re not bombarded.?

 

?Message in a bottle?
Love In Action International, founded 32 years ago, is the oldest known ?ex-gay? organization, said Besen, author of ?Anything But Straight.?

?These organizations hold them captive, basically as prisoners. They are boot camps,? he said.

Besen commended Zach?s courage in taking his story to the Web.

?It?s the modern-age message in a bottle,? he said. ?Here he is on this hideous island of ignorance, and he?s sent his message out and now people are trying to rescue him.?

?This is a new spin on a terrible old story. He?s very innovative ? it shows the power of the Internet for our community,? Besen added.

The author said ?ex-gay? organizations that focus on adolescents are more difficult to track than programs for adults because they often market their programs as church camps.

?These groups inflict significant child abuse. They destroy and demolish the self-worth of young men and women,? he said.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Guantanamo Bay vs Tranquility Bay
« on: June 20, 2005, 11:12:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-20 17:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Could it be that all of you are talking about Sen John McCain???"


I don't know if thats who they are referiing to or not I believe he was a POW for roughly 71/2 years at the Hanoi Hilton. But it certainly was not Mr. Durbin

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