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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 06:04:39 PM

Title: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 06:04:39 PM
Here you are Johnny, your very own land fill that you're free to muck up to your hearts content. It seems people are becoming annoyed with you derailing pertinant conversations in your goal from keeping the truth about these places from coming to light. No one seems to find anything you add having any value, and most would prefer you just leave. I on the other hand find you to be hysterical, and I appreciate how you highlight the mindset and behavior of those who would offer to take (and abuse) troubled teens off lazy parents hands.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 06:14:10 PM
I'll even get you started Johnny. Boy someone is sure gonna sleep good tonight.

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Nice try Bruce, but no go. First you stated that you asked to have you posts strung together and the admins told you “What posts? There are none to string together”. Then you told us that you asked to have your posts strung together but didn’t get a response. Then later you told us that you had 5 guest posts and that they have already been strung together.

Hmmm...to be honest John I'm a little hazy on the details. Maybe you could provide individual posts of mine and I could comment on each one them. That'll give me a chance to walk you through the time line and entire process where I was proactively proving you wrong. Still stings doesnt it Johnny? So go ahead and toss up links to comments I made regarding each one of the afore mentioned quotes.

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Finally we were able to get Ginger to respond and tell us that your posts were never even looked at or strung together like you had claimed. She confirmed that you were lying all along. I have exposed your lies here at every turn and the admins here have confirmed it

Well you actually weren't able to get Ginger to do anything. She finds you to be a joke. She actually called me and we discussed the issue, along with whats going on in our day to day life. What was actually confirmed was that I had far surpassed your own standards, and you were incorrect all along. You're still dodging the fact that if I had something to hide, I wouldnt work so hard to expose the truth.


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So we will wait until you can get the job done, Bruce. I think you should use your time a little more constructively and try to have conversations with other people instead of trolling. When you get the job done we can continue and I will answer any question you like, but until then try to be more constructive with your time and contribute more to the forum.

Oh I'm all about constructive comments John. Remember I actually experienced this place whereas you just locked your kid up in it, along with a lot of other peoples kids. As much as you believe you are both the center of the universe and of fornits, there are actually other things and other conversations that go on without you. You may want to try accepting that. In the meantime you are freet o spew your garbage here to your hearts content, just leave it in here. As soon as you learn to have an honest and forth right conversation, without any of your usual games, you're welcome to join the grown ups table. Until then though we'd prefer you just cool off in here for awhile. Talk to you soon buddy!
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 16, 2009, 06:17:46 PM
Sorry, Bruce this thread is all yours.  Ginger has already proved that you lied about having your guest posts strung together.  They were never done like you stated. Secondly when you stated that the admins indicated that you had too few to string together that was a lie also because Ginger stated it was difficult to determine how many guest posts you had with the existing software.  

So we have established that you have lied to cover your tracks.  We still havent established why you lied or how many guest posts you have or user names you go by.  So we still cannot move forward.

Sorry buddy, that was the deal, you will have to troll someone else until psy or ginger gets around to it.  Keep working at it and good luck.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 16, 2009, 06:35:48 PM
I will leave you with this one:

RobertBruce stated:

So then my guest posts have been linked up, the issue has been resolved. You may confirm this at your leisure.

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=340469&sid=d3ae325f8d75f4b66ac712eaa7858eaf&sid=d3ae325f8d75f4b66ac712eaa7858eaf#p340469)

Ginger stated:

I haven't done it for a couple of reasons. “
confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=341121&sid=d3ae325f8d75f4b66ac712eaa7858eaf&sid=d3ae325f8d75f4b66ac712eaa7858eaf#p341121)

So this confirms you lied and continue to.......

sorry Bruce, every statement you made was shot down by Ginger.  you never had your posts strung together.  Ginger never confirmed that there were too little posts to string together, and you keep going back and forth with "I dont guest post"... to "well I have 5 guest posts".

You are covering you tracks and the only thing anyone will believe is when you show us your posts....
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 16, 2009, 06:55:05 PM
But TheWho never had his posts linked up, just counted.  Why should RB be held to a higher standard?  I don't get why TheWho wants Robert to do more than he himself did.  That double standard thing gets him in trouble.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 06:59:13 PM
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Sorry, Bruce this thread is all yours. Ginger has already proved that you lied about having your guest posts strung together. They were never done like you stated. Secondly when you stated that the admins indicated that you had too few to string together that was a lie also because Ginger stated it was difficult to determine how many guest posts you had with the existing software.

So we have established that you have lied to cover your tracks. We still havent established why you lied or how many guest posts you have or user names you go by. So we still cannot move forward.

Sorry buddy, that was the deal, you will have to troll someone else until psy or ginger gets around to it. Keep working at it and good luck.

Oh John, you're still somehow missing it. This is starting to get sad. You're attempting to deflect the issue because you know you've been proven wrong. You're a mess and you're left sitting there with egg all over your face trying to salvage some scrap of the argument.

Here are your standards:

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Volunteering and actually showing up to do the work are two different things. Nobody is rushing you, being passive and sitting next to the phone for weeks on end waiting for a phone call doesn’t help the cause to move forward. Eventually a person has to become proactive, advocate for himself and make things happen (if he really wants them to).
When you get your posts strung together and stop running from it then we can move forward. Sitting by the phone, waiting for something to happen doesnt insure results. We will let you figure out for yourself how you want to proceed. If you are afraid of what you posted in the past then I suspect the work will not get done. Either way over time we will get the answer.

Then here was Ginger's response:

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Let me see if I can clear this up. He asked. Repeatedly. I haven't done it for a couple of reasons.

First, even if I do link all the posts from a particular address that doesn't prove that the same person isn't posting through a proxy or from some other location. Not that I personally would expect RB to be dodgy that way. Just that linking some posts doesn't prove the absence of others.

Second, even if it were possible to prove the above, the whooter would just call us all liars.

Third, 1+3 = feeding the troll.... and I try not to do that. I'd just wind up getting wrapped up into whooterland crazieness and I really, really don't need that.

Just ignore the asshole!

She used your own argument against you John. You claimed that if a person really had nothing to hide, and really wanted to prove the truth he would be proactive. It doesnt get much more proactive John. I never had anything to hide, because I never had anything more then five guest posts from years gone by.


I think what happened here is that you thought you finally had an argument you could win. You got owned on your claims that I make a number of "gay bashing" remarks. You got owned on your claim that I edit my posts more then you (that one was one of my personal favorites). You thought you had something here because you honestly believe that the abscence of evidence is indicative of guilt. Well Johnny, now you've got your evidence. If you want to talk about me lying regarding my post being linked up, then ask away. I already answered the question for you, but I'm not surprised you didnt understand. Afterwards let's see if you're willing to own up to your own numerous lies told on here. My guess is your hatred of being held accountable will stay strong on that front. Either way you lose credibility so it really doesnt matter.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 07:04:44 PM
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But TheWho never had his posts linked up, just counted. Why should RB be held to a higher standard? I don't get why TheWho wants Robert to do more than he himself did. That double standard thing gets him in trouble

No, it's been done at least once before. He doesnt want it done now because he tends to post under various guises, argue with himself, post under similar usernames to other posters, and pretend he has supporters by cheering himself on. He hates being held accountable and will do anything to avoid it. The other problem is John (TheWho) Reuben often excuses his own horrible behavior by claiming that everyone else is doing the same thing. He never has any basis for such claims, but that's never stopped him before. He refuses to answer questions put to him (see above posts) and will often tuck tail and run or attempt personal attacks when he feels hes been painted into a corner. I never had anything worth linking up as so seldom ever guest posted, and it was such a long time ago. He just couldnt accept it until Ginger spelled it out for him yesterday.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 16, 2009, 07:06:32 PM
So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 16, 2009, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
I will leave you with this one:

RobertBruce stated:

So then my guest posts have been linked up, the issue has been resolved. You may confirm this at your leisure.

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=340469&sid=80dd248046f3958e49554fc32816eccd&sid=80dd248046f3958e49554fc32816eccd#p340469)

Ginger stated:

I haven't done it for a couple of reasons. “
confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=341121&sid=80dd248046f3958e49554fc32816eccd&sid=80dd248046f3958e49554fc32816eccd#p341121)

So this confirms you lied and continue to.......

sorry Bruce, every statement you made was shot down by Ginger.  you never had your posts strung together.  Ginger never confirmed that there were too little posts to string together, and you keep going back and forth with "I dont guest post"... to "well I have 5 guest posts".

You are covering you tracks and the only thing anyone will believe is when you show us your posts....

Why did robert lie about having his posts strung together?  I am glad Ginger came out and set Bruce straight.  Bruce is flipping out now that he was caught again  (you can tell when his posts get real long).  He will be posting a ton of guest posts to try to cover this one... oh wait he doesnt guest post!! must be someone else covering for him!! Ha,Ha,Ha,

Sting!!!  Bruce will never learn... the facts of residing in the database burns him everytime.  Lets click on those links again, shall we?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
:roflmao:

Whatever helps you sleep at night Johnny. Let me know when you want to talk about those lies of yours.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2009, 10:49:34 PM
this B.S with RB, John, thewho, and whomever else is getting quite annoying.  :feedtrolls:
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2009, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 17, 2009, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
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So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.


I hear ya, the two of them!!  I don’t think I will ever figure out why RB lied about having his posts strung together or that he never guest posted.  Why didn’t he at least stick with one story?

It is good that Ginger cleared it up but it sure made RB look pretty bad when she said the work wasn’t even done after RB said it had been done.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 17, 2009, 06:29:20 PM
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So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.

Yeah, TheWho never tells the truth.  Even when he doesn't have to lie he does anyway.  It's his nature.  Then whenever he's caught lying his stock response is "It wasn't me!  It was RobertBruce!"  Then he poses as RobertBruce using one of the three logins he created ("Robert Bruce", "RobertBruce." and "RobertBruce .") to try to make Robert look bad.  But he's been exposed for that now so he's even more desperate.  Poor guy can't win an argument so he just lies like a rug.  TheWho is a loser.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 17, 2009, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
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So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.

Yeah, TheWho never tells the truth.  Even when he doesn't have to lie he does anyway.  It's his nature.  Then whenever he's caught lying his stock response is "It wasn't me!  It was RobertBruce!"  Then he poses as RobertBruce using one of the three logins he created ("Robert Bruce", "RobertBruce." and "RobertBruce .") to try to make Robert look bad.  But he's been exposed for that now so he's even more desperate.  Poor guy can't win an argument so he just lies like a rug.  TheWho is a loser.
Sorry, Bruce, I know the truth hurts.  I have provided links to when you have lied, you can only speculate.  There were posts made by "thewho.", "thewho.." and a few others, I think 4 in total.  I can speculate, like you do, that you logged in trying to pose as me those times but I dont do that.  I have openly shown that I logged in as one of those aliases "robertBruce." and the posts are in the history file for all to see.  I had fun!!  But, unlike Bruce, I am not afraid to show that side of me.  I dont run and I dont lie.
I have provided links of at least 3 or 4 lies in just the past one thread that Bruce made in an attempt to run away from his past posts.  I have the courage to stand behind my past posts... we all know Bruce hides in the shadows and then calls people a coward just before he runs off.  (Which has taken on a whole new meaning lately for robert as we all know).

Let me ask everyone this.  Do you think Bruce would have the courage to own up to posting as one of thewho logins?  We all know the answer to that... he likes to make fun of others and then call in sick when it is his turn to stand up and speak.

Again.. no need for me to run, hide or lie.  I’m here and all my posts have been laid out twice for all to see.  I averaged under 3 guest posts per week when I had a user name.
Sorry the truth hurts so much, Bruce and sorry it took getting Ginger involved to prove my point that you were lying.  That is something you need to live with.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 17, 2009, 07:52:43 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.

Yeah, TheWho never tells the truth.  Even when he doesn't have to lie he does anyway.  It's his nature.  Then whenever he's caught lying his stock response is "It wasn't me!  It was RobertBruce!"  Then he poses as RobertBruce using one of the three logins he created ("Robert Bruce", "RobertBruce." and "RobertBruce .") to try to make Robert look bad.  But he's been exposed for that now so he's even more desperate.  Poor guy can't win an argument so he just lies like a rug.  TheWho is a loser.

He's right on cue!  "Bruce did it!"  Ha, ha, ha.  This guy is so predictable and lame.

He never told us why he created three logins to troll Bruce with.  Still waiting on that.  He can run, but he can't hide.  The truth hurts, huh, Whootie?  You created three logins to troll Bruce and all you have to say again is "No!  Bruce did it!"  

Pretty weak, amigo.  We all know it stings, but you'll just have to get over the pain and get on with the honest answer why you created three logins just to harrass some kid on on the 'net.  Nice garbage pile, by the way.  You should just copy and paste it into your thread to keep it together.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2009, 08:09:34 PM
........and they continue.   :agree:  :beat:  :feedtrolls:
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 17, 2009, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
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So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.

Yeah, TheWho never tells the truth.  Even when he doesn't have to lie he does anyway.  It's his nature.  Then whenever he's caught lying his stock response is "It wasn't me!  It was RobertBruce!"  Then he poses as RobertBruce using one of the three logins he created ("Robert Bruce", "RobertBruce." and "RobertBruce .") to try to make Robert look bad.  But he's been exposed for that now so he's even more desperate.  Poor guy can't win an argument so he just lies like a rug.  TheWho is a loser.

He's right on cue!  "Bruce did it!"  Ha, ha, ha.  This guy is so predictable and lame.

He never told us why he created three logins to troll Bruce with.  Still waiting on that.  He can run, but he can't hide.  The truth hurts, huh, Whootie?  You created three logins to troll Bruce and all you have to say again is "No!  Bruce did it!"  

Pretty weak, amigo.  We all know it stings, but you'll just have to get over the pain and get on with the honest answer why you created three logins just to harrass some kid on on the 'net.  Nice garbage pile, by the way.  You should just copy and paste it into your thread to keep it together.

Actually thewho admitted to using one of the user names.   Still dont know who created the 4 or so "thewho" usernames.  I have to give thewho credit for owning up to his part, though.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 17, 2009, 10:59:48 PM
Of course you would give yourself credit, who else would you give it to? It amazes me that even still after me laying out for him the fact that having a gov't job prevents me from casual internet surfing at work, he still thinks he's talking to me all day.

John, I had no idea you were lying and pretending to be me. What was your motivation for doing such a thing? Is it because you'd been embarrassed and proven wrong by me so many times you were desperate to try and find a way to shame me? Or is this part of your continued fantasy? I thought you were talking to your therapist about that? As much as you might want in John, it's never going to happen. I'm strickly into women.

As far as Ginger's comments go everyone else has gotten what her point was. You somehow missed it, I'm not sure how, did you not catch the part where she called you an asshole? Either way the important thing is she proved you wrong using your own argument, hence why you've been so quiet about it. I know it has to sting but eventually you'll delude yourself into believing it never happened and move on.

So then it sounds like you're ready to talk about some of your lies. Fantastic. In fairness it sounds like you'd like to discuss comments or actions I've made which you believe were lies. Quid pro quo. Good enough Johnny, you set em up, I'll knock em back. Are you game? One lie at a time? You're welcome to present your claim first.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2009, 02:05:23 AM
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Robbie brucie, whootie and his blowfish john Reubsie: Go kill yourselves, you suck at life.



sound familiar?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 08:13:02 AM
Look, Bruce, I am not interested in listening to you trying to defend yourself on each and every lie.  When you went on and on insisting that you had already had your posts strung together and asking to move forward it was me who held your feet to the fire, but you continued to live the lie and insist the work was done.  Then finally Ginger stepped in and stated that you were lying and that your posts were never strung together.
Here is a clip:

RobertBruce stated:

So then my guest posts have been linked up, the issue has been resolved. You may confirm this at your leisure.

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=340469&sid=174ce4620b681fc519c6bb16c4901c92&sid=174ce4620b681fc519c6bb16c4901c92#p340469)

Ginger stated:

I haven't done it for a couple of reasons. “

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=341121&sid=174ce4620b681fc519c6bb16c4901c92&sid=174ce4620b681fc519c6bb16c4901c92#p341121)

I am here to add balance,Bruce (everyone knows that), and maybe to have a little fun at your expense.  I am not here to listen to your explanations on why you lie.  That is something you need to work out with yourself.  If people are interested they can PM you.  I deal in facts (which are those critical bits of information which always seem to get you in trouble).
Now you still have some work to do before we can move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 18, 2009, 12:14:16 PM
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So, TheWho's credibility must now be minus zero.  Can't get any lower than that!
True indeed.

Yeah, TheWho never tells the truth.  Even when he doesn't have to lie he does anyway.  It's his nature.  Then whenever he's caught lying his stock response is "It wasn't me!  It was RobertBruce!"  Then he poses as RobertBruce using one of the three logins he created ("Robert Bruce", "RobertBruce." and "RobertBruce .") to try to make Robert look bad.  But he's been exposed for that now so he's even more desperate.  Poor guy can't win an argument so he just lies like a rug.  TheWho is a loser.

He's right on cue!  "Bruce did it!"  Ha, ha, ha.  This guy is so predictable and lame.

He never told us why he created three logins to troll Bruce with.  Still waiting on that.  He can run, but he can't hide.  The truth hurts, huh, Whootie?  You created three logins to troll Bruce and all you have to say again is "No!  Bruce did it!"  

Pretty weak, amigo.  We all know it stings, but you'll just have to get over the pain and get on with the honest answer why you created three logins just to harrass some kid on on the 'net.  Nice garbage pile, by the way.  You should just copy and paste it into your thread to keep it together.

Still haven't seen TheWho's explanation about why he impersonated RB with three separate logins.  Was he afraid he was losing arguments?  Did he want to damage RB's 'reputation' or was he just being an asshole?  No further dialog with TheWho until he acts like a man and says why he impersonated RB with three logins!
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Still haven't seen TheWho's explanation about why he impersonated RB with three separate logins.  Was he afraid he was losing arguments?  Did he want to damage RB's 'reputation' or was he just being an asshole?  No further dialog with TheWho until he acts like a man and says why he impersonated RB with three logins!

Sorry Bruce,  Comprehension is a struggle for you, but I am a patient man.  I can see you are wanting answers and I am willing to answer all your questions if you like... after you get your little job done.  Trying to cover over your lies with guest posts isnt going to work.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 18, 2009, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: "TheWho"
I dont run and I dont lie.

I think I'm going to bust something laughing so hard.  Dude, you've made a five-plus year career on Fornits doing nothing but lying and running.  Seriously, the statement "I don't lie" coming from you, IS a huge lie.  Try again, numbnuts. :rofl:
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "TheWho"
I dont run and I dont lie.

I think I'm going to bust something laughing so hard.  Dude, you've made a five-plus year career on Fornits doing nothing but lying and running.  Seriously, the statement "I don't lie" coming from you, IS a huge lie.  Try again, numbnuts. :rofl:

Well, okay.  When I accuse someone of lying I back it up with evidence and a link to where the discrepancy can be located.  If I have lied or made an error then I will own up to it.  All my past posts are there for everyone to see,  there is no hiding anything.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 18, 2009, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "TheWho"
I dont run and I dont lie.

I think I'm going to bust something laughing so hard.  Dude, you've made a five-plus year career on Fornits doing nothing but lying and running.  Seriously, the statement "I don't lie" coming from you, IS a huge lie.  Try again, numbnuts. :rofl:

Well, okay.  When I accuse someone of lying I back it up with evidence and a link to where the discrepancy can be located.  If I have lied or made an error then I will own up to it.  All my past posts are there for everyone to see,  there is no hiding anything.

Again with the blatant lying.  You have some 10,000 anon posts here on this site claiming to be everyone from a program parent to a program kid to a program staff member to a hyde student to an HLA student, etc, etc, etc.  You've been busted telling outrageous outright lies time and again.  Sorry, but your latest line is pure bullshit.  

Who, you are one of the biggest liars on this site.  You lie like a rug.  You make outrageous claims and when you get caught lying you are desperate to shift the focus, change the topic or blame it on someone else.  Your legacy here is cemented.  There's no cleaning it up.  No matter how many times you say "I don't lie" almost infinite lies can be easily found in your posts.  

This is where you belong, in a garbage dump.  Because everything that comes out of your mouth is garbage.  Everyone knows this.  There's no sense in trying to deny it.  You are a liar.  It's part of your identity as a person, not just a poster.  

I'm sure your friends when you were growing up, your parents, your relatives - anyone who knew you - knew you as "the liar," or "the kid that always makes up stories."  Face the facts.  The only reason you're here all the time is because nobody wants to be around you.  You wear everyone down with your smug arrogance and huge lie of a "life story."  We all understand that here, Who.  You ain't fooling nobody, Joggernaut.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 06:22:08 PM
lol....Actually people know me as being painfully truthful.  Truthful to the point of being an asshole sometimes, which I admit.  Your post is filled with rage and hatred which is unfortunate for you that you have to carry that load.  But it lacks any evidence.  This has been the hallmark of Bruces posts and the burden that he bears....  When people lie to me or others I just collect the evidence as I did with Bruce and then present it.  There is no need for me to get personally worked up over it.  They are areas that Bruce needs to work on not me.

I am probably one of the few here who has had all their posts laid out for everyone to examine and read.  If you have a specific post which is bothering you then you should point to it, otherwise you will just have to live with your own rage silently at home with no chance at resolution.  As far as having 10,000 posts... again the evidence points to me guest posting less than 3 posts per week (accumulating 270 posts over the period of 2 years......When I was logged in as thewho)... since then I have pretty much exclusively been guest posting.  If this serves as a great source of heart burn for you (which it appears to)then I suggest you check the math and the posts yourself and after that if you still disagree that is okay too because it can only lead to more open dialog.  Which is the reason we are all here.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 18, 2009, 07:10:28 PM
So you aren't interested in hearing about my lies? Great. You never really had much to work with anyway so it would have been a pretty short conversation. That being the case are you still afraid of being held accountable or are you really ready to have your own feet held to the fire? You've never actually done this to anyone, nor have you ever "collected evidence", but its nice for you to have a dream.

So ready then? Anything you want to fess up before hand so we don't have to waste time rehashing anything?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
So you aren't interested in hearing about my lies? Great. You never really had much to work with anyway so it would have been a pretty short conversation.

Well, at least you admit that you lie.  thats a big step for you.




 
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That being the case are you still afraid of being held accountable or are you really ready to have your own feet held to the fire? You've never actually done this to anyone, nor have you ever "collected evidence", but its nice for you to have a dream.

RobertBruce stated:

So then my guest posts have been linked up, the issue has been resolved. You may confirm this at your leisure.

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=340469&sid=887e4730e97b65531cdb58e75ec346e9&sid=887e4730e97b65531cdb58e75ec346e9#p340469)

Ginger stated:

I haven't done it for a couple of reasons. “

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=341121&sid=887e4730e97b65531cdb58e75ec346e9&sid=887e4730e97b65531cdb58e75ec346e9#p341121)



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So ready then? Anything you want to fess up before hand so we don't have to waste time rehashing anything?

sorry, bruce, it stays here until you man up ....get your work done... you know that.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 18, 2009, 07:51:35 PM
Man up to what exactly John?  Be specific now. I've never been afraid of the truth like you are. The fact of the matter is that you've made claim after claim after claim, never having a basis for any of them. You didnt collect any evidence on anything. Ginger proved you wrong, and you're celebrating it. Continue to post whatever makes you feel better. I explained to you I created this thread for you to muck up to your hearts content. At some point though you're going to have to accept things and move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 08:03:11 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Man up to what exactly John?  Be specific now. I've never been afraid of the truth like you are. The fact of the matter is that you've made claim after claim after claim, never having a basis for any of them. You didnt collect any evidence on anything. Ginger proved you wrong, and you're celebrating it. Continue to post whatever makes you feel better. I explained to you I created this thread for you to muck up to your hearts content. At some point though you're going to have to accept things and move forward.
Yes, you created this thread, not me, because you are obsessed with trying to regain your credibility.  

So you said Ginger proved me wrong... Hmmmm

Lets take another look:
RobertBruce stated:

So then my guest posts have been linked up, the issue has been resolved. You may confirm this at your leisure.

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=340469&sid=30e78ae85d1f95ebe969cd69627993bc&sid=30e78ae85d1f95ebe969cd69627993bc#p340469)

Ginger stated:

I haven't done it for a couple of reasons. “

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=341121&sid=30e78ae85d1f95ebe969cd69627993bc&sid=30e78ae85d1f95ebe969cd69627993bc#p341121)

Whoops another lie by Bruce..  I called it and Ginger confirmed it......

As far as this thread goes...I can take it or leave it...it is just fun watching you try to cover up your own lies....

But you are stuck here until you get your job done... sorry I cant let up. Bruce.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 18, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "TheWho"
I dont run and I dont lie.

I think I'm going to bust something laughing so hard.  Dude, you've made a five-plus year career on Fornits doing nothing but lying and running.  Seriously, the statement "I don't lie" coming from you, IS a huge lie.  Try again, numbnuts. :rofl:

Well, okay.  When I accuse someone of lying I back it up with evidence and a link to where the discrepancy can be located.  If I have lied or made an error then I will own up to it.  All my past posts are there for everyone to see,  there is no hiding anything.

Again with the blatant lying.  You have some 10,000 anon posts here on this site claiming to be everyone from a program parent to a program kid to a program staff member to a hyde student to an HLA student, etc, etc, etc.  You've been busted telling outrageous outright lies time and again.  Sorry, but your latest line is pure bullshit.  

Who, you are one of the biggest liars on this site.  You lie like a rug.  You make outrageous claims and when you get caught lying you are desperate to shift the focus, change the topic or blame it on someone else.  Your legacy here is cemented.  There's no cleaning it up.  No matter how many times you say "I don't lie" almost infinite lies can be easily found in your posts.  

This is where you belong, in a garbage dump.  Because everything that comes out of your mouth is garbage.  Everyone knows this.  There's no sense in trying to deny it.  You are a liar.  It's part of your identity as a person, not just a poster.  

I'm sure your friends when you were growing up, your parents, your relatives - anyone who knew you - knew you as "the liar," or "the kid that always makes up stories."  Face the facts.  The only reason you're here all the time is because nobody wants to be around you.  You wear everyone down with your smug arrogance and huge lie of a "life story."  We all understand that here, Who.  You ain't fooling nobody, Joggernaut.

Oh, man.  You know this is dead on.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 18, 2009, 08:41:47 PM
Wow this is almost sad watching him.


John your original claim was that I currently guest post. You estimated that I had more guest posts then you do. You claimed I posted under various user names/guises. You had no basis for any of this, but again, when has that ever stopped you. You made the mistake of claiming that if I really wanted to prove you wrong I would be proactive in getting the posts linked up, you claimed I hadnt been. Ginger (after a conversation with me) showed up and proved you wrong.

Now you're attempting to claim that the entire argument, and her reasoning for posting was to answer whether I had or had not had my posts linked up? It amazes me how quickly you change your tune.


What is it specifically that you're looking for John, I want you to be exact so we discuss it and move on to your numerous lies. Unless of course you're afraid to?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 18, 2009, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wow this is almost sad watching him.


John your original claim was that I currently guest post. You estimated that I had more guest posts then you do. You claimed I posted under various user names/guises. You had no basis for any of this, but again, when has that ever stopped you. You made the mistake of claiming that if I really wanted to prove you wrong I would be proactive in getting the posts linked up, you claimed I hadnt been. Ginger (after a conversation with me) showed up and proved you wrong.

Now you're attempting to claim that the entire argument, and her reasoning for posting was to answer whether I had or had not had my posts linked up? It amazes me how quickly you change your tune.


What is it specifically that you're looking for John, I want you to be exact so we discuss it and move on to your numerous lies. Unless of course you're afraid to?

Actually the facts support that you were proved wrong... Ginger confirmed it.  I can post the links again to refresh your memory.


I think this break will be good for you while you are waiting for your job to be done.  I see you have started interacting with other posters and trying to reach out and reply using normal dialog.  You should continue to grow in this direction instead of creating threads dedicated to trolling.  This isnt healthy for you.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 19, 2009, 11:29:57 AM
If I was TheWho's kid I'd never speak to him again either.  What a jerk.  I can see how he drove his boy to kill himself.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 19, 2009, 06:42:47 PM
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Actually the facts support that you were proved wrong... Ginger confirmed it. I can post the links again to refresh your memory.


I think this break will be good for you while you are waiting for your job to be done. I see you have started interacting with other posters and trying to reach out and reply using normal dialog. You should continue to grow in this direction instead of creating threads dedicated to trolling. This isnt healthy for you.

This is priceless. John go ahead and post up the comments you made about being proactive, and then post up Ginger's comments. Even someone as detatched from reality as you can see how she used your own argument against you, and shattered your whole delusion. You babbled on and on about how if I were really interested in proving I had nothing to hide, I'd be proactive about linking up my posts. Along came Ginger said that much and more, and shut you down. Now if you'd like to move forward from that and discuss another point I'd be happy to, you're just going to have to be specific.


The funny part is that you won't because you've painted yourself into a corner again. You're once again doing your usual squirm under the hot lamps. The minute you ask me a direct question you know I'll answer it and move forward to discussing all your lies. You don't have another leg to stand on whereas you know that I've got reams of your lies and bull shit to hold you accountable on. And we all know how much you hate that.

So stay put if you want to, I get a kick out of keeping you locked in this holding pattern. You're welcome to get out of it at anytime, you'll just have to start being honest with things. Talk to you soon Johnny.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 19, 2009, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"

This is priceless. John go ahead and post up Ginger's comments.

Okay ,if you insist RB, one more time:

Lets take another look:
RobertBruce stated:

So then my guest posts have been linked up, the issue has been resolved. You may confirm this at your leisure.

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=340469&sid=ccd910b773e73fdeabd4837b8a76046d&sid=ccd910b773e73fdeabd4837b8a76046d#p340469)

Ginger stated:

I haven't done it for a couple of reasons. “

Confirming link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=341121&sid=ccd910b773e73fdeabd4837b8a76046d&sid=ccd910b773e73fdeabd4837b8a76046d#p341121)

Whoops another lie by Bruce..  I called it and Ginger confirmed it......
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 19, 2009, 08:21:17 PM
RB why do you let him kick your ass like this?  Youved been wooped!
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 19, 2009, 10:53:41 PM
It's good you're able to keep a cheerleading squad in your head John, at least someone supports you, even if they are imaginary. You predicatably were a coward once again. It amazes me how you honestly believe that if you pretend something ardently enough it makes it true. Care to take a look at what you were avoiding?


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John go ahead and post up the comments you made about being proactive

Having trouble finding them John? Let me know, I'll be glad to post them for you.  :seg:

After that we can focus on your question so we can then move forward to discussing all the many lies you've told. Or were you planning on remaining a coward and trying to duck them forever?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 20, 2009, 07:47:12 AM
Bruce, you created this garbage depot.  Why not try to utilize it?  Try to keep your personal comments and trolling here in one place.  Other people including myself have asked nicely that you not derail conversations in other threads.

What may work is if you feel a need to call someone a coward or comment on their family or other personal comments you could do it here instead of in the middle of a thread where people are sharing thoughts.

Myself and others can respond to you here, if they like.  That way it keeps all the crap in one place instead of mucking up the whole forum.  

Lets try that, I think other posters and readers would appreciate it.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 20, 2009, 08:58:26 AM
I would appreciate it too.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2009, 10:14:22 AM
Oh how quickly TheWho forgets...  

Hey, idiot, don't you remember that the thread 'TheWho' was created for you because all you've ever done here is purposely derail threads?  Now you want to lecture others about derailing?  You're a fucking joke.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 20, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Oh how quickly TheWho forgets...  

Hey, idiot, don't you remember that the thread 'TheWho' was created for you because all you've ever done here is purposely derail threads?  Now you want to lecture others about derailing?  You're a fucking joke.

I wrote that, not thewho.  But you are right thewho was a big one for derailing threads and I should had included him also.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 20, 2009, 06:39:34 PM
Again John, whatever helps you sleep at night. The only person you're fooling is yourself.


So then stop skirting the issue. Ask your question so we can address it and move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 01:52:34 PM
Looks like John once again painted himself into a corner and can't see a way out. Priceless.

Stop skirting the issue John. Ask your question so we can address it and move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 02:14:53 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Looks like John once again painted himself into a corner and can't see a way out. Priceless.

Stop skirting the issue John. Ask your question so we can address it and move forward.

Good going RB in keeping your personal attacks and trolling of thewho over in this garbage depot.  This will be a big service to the rest of us if you can continue to keep it here.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 22, 2009, 03:27:58 PM
TheAsshole, I mean, TheWho, makes me weary with his trolling.  Always calling himself "we" and speaking for everyone else.  Get a LIFE, TheAsshole, you fucking loser.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
TheAsshole, I mean, TheWho, makes me weary with his trolling.  Always calling himself "we" and speaking for everyone else.  Get a LIFE, TheAsshole, you fucking loser.
Sorry,RB, that this upsets you so much, but it is only fair to others who are posting here.  Keep the personal attacks (like above) here, in this thread, and the forum will be kept much cleaner and easier to follow and read.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2009, 04:29:15 PM
#1 I'm not RB
#2 You are an asshole

Just sticking to the facts.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 04:36:40 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
#1 I'm not RB
#2 You are an asshole

Just sticking to the facts.

Whoops, sorry, RB, you did say you never guest post!!!  Ha,Ha,Ha,   Gotcha
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
Oh no John, I acknowledged guest posting about five times on many occasions.

Now stop skirting the issue. Ask your question so we can address it and move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 04:58:53 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Oh no John, I acknowledged guest posting about five times on many occasions.

Now stop skirting the issue. Ask your question so we can address it and move forward.

Great, then when they are all linked together we can move forward.  Let me know.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 05:11:38 PM
Trying to go back to that John? Looking for anyway out of that corner?

Sorry Johnny, Ginger used your own argument against you remember? Let me refresh your memory:

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Volunteering and actually showing up to do the work are two different things. Nobody is rushing you, being passive and sitting next to the phone for weeks on end waiting for a phone call doesn’t help the cause to move forward. Eventually a person has to become proactive, advocate for himself and make things happen (if he really wants them to).
When you get your posts strung together and stop running from it then we can move forward. Sitting by the phone, waiting for something to happen doesnt insure results. We will let you figure out for yourself how you want to proceed. If you are afraid of what you posted in the past then I suspect the work will not get done. Either way over time we will get the answer

Then Ginger's response:

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Let me see if I can clear this up. He asked. Repeatedly. I haven't done it for a couple of reasons.

First, even if I do link all the posts from a particular address that doesn't prove that the same person isn't posting through a proxy or from some other location. Not that I personally would expect RB to be dodgy that way. Just that linking some posts doesn't prove the absence of others.

Second, even if it were possible to prove the above, the whooter would just call us all liars.

Third, 1+3 = feeding the troll.... and I try not to do that. I'd just wind up getting wrapped up into whooterland crazieness and I really, really don't need that.

Just ignore the asshole!

There you have it Johnny. By your own standards I proved you wrong. If I really had something hide why would I be so.......proactive about linking up the posts?


I know you don't have an answer so why try?

Stop skirting the issue, ask your question so we can address it and move forward. You still arent being let off the hook Johnny.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
Speaking of skirts Robert.  You should consider coming out from behind Gingers.  I figured out a way to have my posts linked together.  I am sure if it is important to you you will do the same.  Work on it.......Try asking psy like I did.  It took him a few minutes.

You lied once when you said you got the job done.  Then it took getting Ginger involved to prove you never did get them strung together.  Lets just wait until it is done then we can move forward.

Not a big deal either way.  You are doing very well so far and have had 2 or 3 posts where you contributed something vs just trolling me.  This will be a healthy exercise while you are waiting to have your posts done.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 07:11:12 PM
*YAWN*

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I know you don't have an answer so why try?


Thanks for once again proving me right Johnny.

As for asking Psy, you already know I have but here you go just as a reminder:

http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php? ... on#p334705 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=334705&hilit=confusion#p334705)

http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php? ... de#p334782 (http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16007&p=334782&hilit=hide#p334782)

Almost two months ago now John. Two whole months of me being proactive because I never had anything to hide afterall. Something Ginger (once again) using your own standards proved to you.

So then stop skirting the issue John, ask your question so we can address it and move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 07:37:48 PM
I am sure if your paycheck wasnt on your desk or deposited in your account you would not just *YAWN* and say..... "oh well maybe next week".  You would expect the results of your weeks toil and work towards getting that done..... its easy to sit back and say   "oh I tried and everyone was busy"

When the results of your posts being strung together is completed let me know.  (That was the deal)  you tried lying and that didnt work now we need to wait.  We both have time, Bruce.

If you dont want it done just say so, no shame it in.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Thewho is such a dumb asshole.  He must expect RB to beat Ginger or Psy until they link his posts. He can't do it himself and they won't.

And thewho continuously masturbates to what he thinks is a 'victory' over some kid on the 'net.  What a moron.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Thewho is such a dumb asshole.  He must expect RB to beat Ginger or Psy until they link his posts. He can't do it himself and they won't.

And thewho continuously masturbates to what he thinks is a 'victory' over some kid on the 'net.  What a moron.

Sorry Bruce, I know you are frustrated.  But , unike you I dont seek to win every argument or own people like you seek to so I dont get frustrated and name call.  My posts just are looking for the truth and that seems to bother you (and I know why).

Stay true to yourself and if you dont have anything to hide you will accomplish what we stated earlier.

This is a good place for your personal attacks.  Thanks for keeping the rest of the forum clean its been a good debate.  Many people besides myself appreciate it.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 08:30:46 PM
Well see the thing is, you lied about having your own posts linked up. Take a look:

http://http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27884&p=336271&hilit=morning#p336271

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RobertBruce wrote:

Oh also my guest posts have been linked up, there just wasnt enough to add to make a difference. You pretending to be a admin doesnt affect that. Your turn!


Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours.

I notice you are still back pedaling on the Dunbar facts...... trying to pass it off on Elvis still? Ha,Ha,Ha somethings never change. You got egg on your face and dont even know it yet... You use to step back and let DJ take the hits now your all alone.


I've been enjoying this one, Bruce.

As far as your stay at HLA we all know it was 2 weeks (I guess some may say it is close to a year or maybe it just felt like it? Ha,Ha,Ha), but we acknowledge you as a survivor. Dont worry your classification is still valid, Bruce.

So why the double standard John? Furthermore your analogy has a fallacy. A person goes into a job with the understanding that they will paid for said job, they do the work because an arrangement has been reached. At the end of a pay period an employee is required to pay their employee for the labor that was rendered. This is much different situation. You're claiming now (having to change your tune yet again) that I wouldn't just shrug off not having recieved my desired goals, or in this case having my posts linked together. While I understand that you still believe yourself to be the center of hte universe, the truth is we aren't entitled to anything. Least of all on here. All I could do was ask Ginger and Psy repeatedly to link up my post, which believe me I did. Repeatedly. Which according to you is the telltale sign that a person wants the truth exposed and has nothing to hide. That being the case, again by your own standards, you have your answe, and you were proven wrong yet againr. Just because you're afraid to answer the question doesnt change the facts of the situation.



You further have this to consider. Ginger and Psy have both stated they are unwilling to do the link up. I can't make them. Since there were only ever five posts to add anyway, what's the point? So then it apears rather that it is you who is trying to avoid a topic. If you'd rather not talk about your numerous lies, all you have to do is say so. Everyone here would understand.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 08:33:06 PM
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Sorry Bruce, I know you are frustrated. But , unike you I dont seek to win every argument or own people like you seek to so I dont get frustrated and name call. My posts just are looking for the truth and that seems to bother you (and I know why).

Stay true to yourself and if you dont have anything to hide you will accomplish what we stated earlier.

This is a good place for your personal attacks. Thanks for keeping the rest of the forum clean its been a good debate. Many people besides myself appreciate it.

I'm not frustrated at all John. Afterall I'm winning the argument and owning you. What would I have to be frustrated over? I have no more reason to do that then I have to guest post, something else I'm not doing either.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2009, 08:34:00 PM
Instead of stringing RB's posts, can't we string TheWho's neck?

I have an idea. Let's shoot John Reuben twice in the back of the head. If TheWho stops posting, we'll know it was him, and if he doesn't, no great loss.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
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Sorry Bruce, I know you are frustrated. But , unike you I dont seek to win every argument or own people like you seek to so I dont get frustrated and name call. My posts just are looking for the truth and that seems to bother you (and I know why).

Stay true to yourself and if you dont have anything to hide you will accomplish what we stated earlier.

This is a good place for your personal attacks. Thanks for keeping the rest of the forum clean its been a good debate. Many people besides myself appreciate it.

I'm not frustrated at all John. Afterall I'm winning the argument and owning you. What would I have to be frustrated over? I have no more reason to do that then I have to guest post, something else I'm not doing either.

Thats the way ......keep your chin up
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2009, 08:43:55 PM
‘Tis true who he owns you. If you were his cell mate he could rent you for commissary items.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 22, 2009, 08:45:17 PM
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Thats the way ......keep your chin up

That's the way......just keep skirting the issue due to your own cowardice.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 22, 2009, 09:10:13 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
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Thats the way ......keep your chin up

That's the way......just keep skirting the issue due to your own cowardice.

Sting!!  Now we both know that hurt you a little... keep running, Bruce.   lol  

On another note:  Thanks for keeping your trolling in this thread....  you have been good since our talk, I have to admit, RB.  People have appreciated it more than you know.  That has been a very level headed discussion in the other thread.  I knew you could do it!!!!
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 23, 2009, 09:43:37 AM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Well see the thing is, you lied about having your own posts linked up. Take a look:

http://http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27884&p=336271&hilit=morning#p336271

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RobertBruce wrote:

Oh also my guest posts have been linked up, there just wasnt enough to add to make a difference. You pretending to be a admin doesnt affect that. Your turn!


Looks like we are all set. They finished mine up this morning, just before yours.

I notice you are still back pedaling on the Dunbar facts...... trying to pass it off on Elvis still? Ha,Ha,Ha somethings never change. You got egg on your face and dont even know it yet... You use to step back and let DJ take the hits now your all alone.


I've been enjoying this one, Bruce.

As far as your stay at HLA we all know it was 2 weeks (I guess some may say it is close to a year or maybe it just felt like it? Ha,Ha,Ha), but we acknowledge you as a survivor. Dont worry your classification is still valid, Bruce.

So why the double standard John? Furthermore your analogy has a fallacy. A person goes into a job with the understanding that they will paid for said job, they do the work because an arrangement has been reached. At the end of a pay period an employee is required to pay their employee for the labor that was rendered. This is much different situation. You're claiming now (having to change your tune yet again) that I wouldn't just shrug off not having recieved my desired goals, or in this case having my posts linked together. While I understand that you still believe yourself to be the center of hte universe, the truth is we aren't entitled to anything. Least of all on here. All I could do was ask Ginger and Psy repeatedly to link up my post, which believe me I did. Repeatedly. Which according to you is the telltale sign that a person wants the truth exposed and has nothing to hide. That being the case, again by your own standards, you have your answe, and you were proven wrong yet againr. Just because you're afraid to answer the question doesnt change the facts of the situation.



You further have this to consider. Ginger and Psy have both stated they are unwilling to do the link up. I can't make them. Since there were only ever five posts to add anyway, what's the point? So then it apears rather that it is you who is trying to avoid a topic. If you'd rather not talk about your numerous lies, all you have to do is say so. Everyone here would understand.

Why did you lie about this, Who?  Credibility is now at minus two.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 10:04:17 AM
Sorry ,wiggle, wiggle, remember the deal Bruce, we still need to wait for yours to be done... let us know so we can move forward.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 10:38:58 AM
Priceless. You really are this much of a coward? No John, it doesn't sting, as I haven't shown any signs of cowardice, I've yet to run away or back down from anything you've tossed my way. I find it hilarious to watch you drunk on your own arrogance being made to look ever the fool. Squinting and shielding your eyes from the hot lamps, insisting "That's not fair!"  :cry:

Hilarious.

As I mentioned before, I enjoy keeping you locked in this holding pattern, you can't get out of it till you start owning up to things and being honest.

As far as my trolling or lack thereof goes, well no one has actually talked to you about it. People appreciate me creating this thread for you I'm sure. Despite your continued attempts to derail threads, in your ever continuing quest to bury pertianant information about how abusive these places are, you've predictably been like a moth to the flame of this one. See the thing is John, I've always been able to add statements of value to other conversations on here because I experienced this industry, and its abuse first hand. Something you know nothing about.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Priceless. You really are this much of a coward? No John, it doesn't sting, as I haven't shown any signs of cowardice, I've yet to run away or back down from anything you've tossed my way. I find it hilarious to watch you drunk on your own arrogance being made to look ever the fool. Squinting and shielding your eyes from the hot lamps, insisting "That's not fair!"  :cry:

Hilarious.

As I mentioned before, I enjoy keeping you locked in this holding pattern, you can't get out of it till you start owning up to things and being honest.

As far as my trolling or lack thereof goes, well no one has actually talked to you about it. People appreciate me creating this thread for you I'm sure. Despite your continued attempts to derail threads, in your ever continuing quest to bury pertianant information about how abusive these places are, you've predictably been like a moth to the flame of this one. See the thing is John, I've always been able to add statements of value to other conversations on here because I experienced this industry, and its abuse first hand. Something you know nothing about.

Sting!!!...Sting!!!  I know that word will always hold a special memory for you as you run away yelling it........

Secondly I would like to thank you for keeping your personal attacks and trolling within the confines of this thread.  My other discussions have been going much smoother and I think we can both agree the forum isnt getting mucked up with this type of crap spread all over and derailed over personal issues and side discussions.
Whether you created this for my benefit your your own it is serving its purpose well and many of us would appreciate it if you continue to utilize this thread as I had mentioned to you earlier.

Being able to vent your personal anger and call people names seems to benenfit you in some way so its good for you to have this outlet.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 10:56:42 AM
:roflmao:

I'm calling you a coward because you are one, and I'm still right here while doing it. Did you have an actual example you could cite of what you believe is my percieved cowardice or is this just another example of your own cowardice through avoidance and transference?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 01:09:51 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
:roflmao:

I'm calling you a coward because you are one, and I'm still right here while doing it. Did you have an actual example you could cite of what you believe is my percieved cowardice or is this just another example of your own cowardice through avoidance and transference?

Sting...Sting!!!....  See, you mentioned you are still right here so the word coward does make you think of yourself running...I didnt bring it up you did.  I warned you early on that this is what would be in your mind everytime you used the word from that point forward and you just confirmed it.  

But running can be used to describe someone who is not moving in the physical sense but running from a responsisbility or from ones self.  We have been thru the use of a dictionary before so I wont force that on you.  (I really dont mean that as a dig, I think you remember the conversation).  Anyway, when I indicated that you are running what is meant is that you are avoiding having your posts strung together and therefore are running from that.  You have shown no evidence that you are working on it.

It is a little silly for someone to call another a coward when they are running away, you have to admit.  So the little comic relief is justified.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 02:02:30 PM
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Sting...Sting!!!.... See, you mentioned you are still right here so the word coward does make you think of yourself running...I didnt bring it up you did. I warned you early on that this is what would be in your mind everytime you used the word from that point forward and you just confirmed it.

Better than Conan, I swear to God John. If I worked in Hollywood I would get you a show where you could just bring people on so you could espouse your backwards logic for the amusement of everyone around you. I feel selfish that I haven't shared you with more people in my life. Take a look John:

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Sting!! Now we both know that hurt you a little... keep running, Bruce. lol

Followed up by my response:

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I've yet to run away or back down from anything you've tossed my way

It was you who brought running away up John, not the other way around. I'm sure in Whoville it was the time stamps fault, but everyone else sees it for what it is. You've been busted yet again. If you really want to know what goes through my head whenever I hear or say the word coward, I think of you, well that and Brendan Frasier in "School Ties". I've seriously never known another person who was more afraid of the truth, and displayed more cowardice then you John.


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But running can be used to describe someone who is not moving in the physical sense but running from a responsisbility or from ones self. We have been thru the use of a dictionary before so I wont force that on you. (I really dont mean that as a dig, I think you remember the conversation).

I sure do, that's going on your greatest misses album. That was the same conversation where you insisted because I read in my bathroom, and watch discovery channel in my living room, both fit the department of education's legal definition of a school. You then claimed I had somewhere said that a term needed to fit every definition listed in a dictionary in order to count, yet you were unable to every actually support this claim with a quote from me. You insisted that the only reason I wouldn't publically declare ASR to be a legal school was because  I believe ASR isn't a group of fish, and therefore didnt count. Again you were unable to ever actually back this claim up, but again when has this ever stopped you? You continually ignored the fact that ASR was (or still may be) unlicensed, unaccredited, unable to hand out diplomas, and credits earned there didn't transfer anywhere else. You ignored those things and stated rather I simply didnt know how to use a dictionary that was the problem. Later after you talked with Function Junction (an HLA staff member) who was willing to break HIPPA laws and divulge information about not just who they think I am, but information they think they have about me, you tried to blackmail me with this "information" as it were. I warned you that not only did HLA not know who I was, but even if they did, they knew nothing about me at all. I warned you your threats were meaningless and would fall flat but you insisted otherwise. Interesting to note how big a kick you got out trying to do that to me, yet you cry about it when we do it you. Why is that? You tried to frce me to state on the board that ASR fit the legal definition of a school, and as I was unconcered with your threats I passed. You then watched as your bomb shell fizzled out into nothing as you lied and claimed I was bi-sexual. No one bought it, and no one cared. And after all that you still couldnt get me to acknowledge something about ASR that was never true to begin with, and you never backed up your claims. Somehow though that doesnt surprise me. I am however surprised that you would bring up such a shinging example of your follishness.


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Anyway, when I indicated that you are running what is meant is that you are avoiding having your posts strung together and therefore are running from that. You have shown no evidence that you are working on it.


 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao: John you can't be serious. Please tell me you have something else. I mean you know how much I love embarrassing you you but when you make it this easy it just takes all the fun out of it. Tell me you have something else for me to go on John.

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It is a little silly for someone to call another a coward when they are running away, you have to admit. So the little comic relief is justified


Your basis again is? Also your explination for you being afraid to answer a few questions other than your cowardice is???? I'll give you one thing, you sure do fit the bill for comic relief. Seriously people pay for this kind of thing John.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 02:21:22 PM
Wow!!  I didnt mean to upset so much..... thats a lot of writing.  I think what it all boils down to is I have had my posts strung together at least twice (Believe me it can be done).  You dont seem too interested in getting yours done and have been avoiding it for some time now  (i.e. running)  so when you call me a coward it is ironic... sorry I see it that way and sorry the word has imprinted a new personal meaning for you.

But until you get the work done we need to stay in this spot.... sorry for the dictionary comment.  I will be forever amazed that you never knew how to use one...I know I know.. you were educated at HLA (you told me).. but most kids know how to use one long before highschool.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
Priceless. It's like talking to someone who insist 2+2= Cabbage. You use fingers, an abacus, a calculator, you count apples and at the end of the day little Johnny says, "Well, it looks like you've finally come to see it my way and now understand that 2+2 always equals cabbage." I mean do you realize that your entire arguments structure basically boils down to me or someone else stating verifiable facts about you, holding you accountable for your actions, and you responding with "I know you are but what am I?"


John, I'll ask again despite the fact that I know your own cowardice prevents....wait excuse me, your own cowardice prevents you from answering, but I'll ask again. If I was really so afraid of having my posts linked up, why was I so proactive in getting them linked up by your own standards?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Priceless. It's like talking to someone who insist 2+2= Cabbage. You use fingers, an abacus, a calculator, you count apples and at the end of the day little Johnny says, "Well, it looks like you've finally come to see it my way and now understand that 2+2 always equals cabbage." I mean do you realize that your entire arguments structure basically boils down to me or someone else stating verifiable facts about you, holding you accountable for your actions, and you responding with "I know you are but what am I?"


John, I'll ask again despite the fact that I know your own cowardice prevents....wait excuse me, your own cowardice prevents you from answering, but I'll ask again. If I was really so afraid of having my posts linked up, why was I so proactive in getting them linked up by your own standards?

Sting!!...Sting!!!....  you are the one using the word coward, not I.  I am just waiting for the results.  We have time.  When you figure out how to get it done, like I did, then let me know.  No need to keep pounding this into the ground.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 03:42:42 PM
And there you have it.


John you didn't "get it done" by any means, Ginger, and then later Psy did it for you.

Here look, here's you:

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Bull, It was easy enough to do mine!
Ask Psy then:
1) Run a query which lists all the ips which are attached to the user name RobertBruce.
2) Those ips will identify all the posts which belong to Bruce.

Odd how you got so upset about this. Here was Ginger's response to you:

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No, it was easy back then with the old software. Things are much more complicated now. I can easily identify posts made from the same IP address. Reasigning authorship is another matter.

In addition to that Psy had this to say:

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Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:05 am

Let me be clear. I have better things to do than to link up anybody's posts. Doing such would be a courtesy and I'm not feeling particularly courteous at the moment. Ask Ginger if she'll bother, but my feeling is the answer is going to be no.


So then again the question remains. What is your basis for claiming I'm running away from something that according to your own standards I've been proactive about?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 04:00:14 PM
Look, I know you are frustrated.  I was a little myself when I was getting my posts strung together.  I had some posts which were not mine attached to my user name and we had to go back and do it again.  The second time I had it done I had a crowd of people yelling that I had 10,000 guest posts and claimed I was posting as all sorts of people and had 10-15 different user names.... Ha,Ha,Ha... It took about a month or so, if I remember correctly, to get it done.
It turned out I averaged less than 3 posts per week as a guest and the torches went out and everyone went home disappointed that there was no lynching.  I only accumulated 270 guest posts in 2 years (or something in that area).

Just hang in there and keep trying.  When you get your posts strung together we can move forward.  You are not very easy on people so you cant expect others to treat you with kid gloves.  "What goes around comes around" as they say.... remember you were the one that brought the word "coward" (sting!!!) into all of this not I.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 04:21:25 PM
Of course I did, you're the coward here who's afraid of a couple of questions. Why wouldnt I call you a coward? I know it "stings" to hear that, but it's time you faced facts about yourself.

Or don't. Like I said I enjoy keeping you locked in this holding pattern, it doesnt frustrate me at all. Again I'm winning the argument remember? Besides doing this prevents you from disrupting too many other threads, and anyone with a 1st grade level of reading comprehension can see this, and see how scared you are. Either way you lose that credibility you're so obsessed with.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Of course I did, you're the coward here who's afraid of a couple of questions. Why wouldnt I call you a coward? I know it "stings" to hear that, but it's time you faced facts about yourself.

Or don't. Like I said I enjoy keeping you locked in this holding pattern, it doesnt frustrate me at all. Again I'm winning the argument remember? Besides doing this prevents you from disrupting too many other threads, and anyone with a 1st grade level of reading comprehension can see this, and see how scared you are. Either way you lose that credibility you're so obsessed with.

You are right about one thing.  You have the control on whether we move forward or not.  When your posts are done I will be more than willing to answer your questions and we can move forward.  Until then you can sit and toss your insults around and kick your feet, doesnt bother me and is more a reflection on yourself.

I am very patient as you will see and will not rush you.... take your time, Bruce.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 05:17:33 PM
:roflmao:

Anything to avoid a couple of easy questions huh John? Like I said everyone else here can read, and no one is on your side. Watch this:

John, what would you say if the posts, depsite my best efforts, couldn't be linked?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 05:50:08 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
:roflmao:

Anything to avoid a couple of easy questions huh John? Like I said everyone else here can read, and no one is on your side. Watch this:

John, what would you say if the posts, depsite my best efforts, couldn't be linked?

We would be here a long time and this thread would probably drop way down over time.  But we all have faith in you RB.  We all know if you work at it long enough anything can  get done.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 05:50:59 PM
You didn't answer the question. What if it couldn't be done, for technical reasons.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 06:50:48 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
You didn't answer the question. What if it couldn't be done, for technical reasons.

Well phpbb is a relational database so if psy was unable to run the queries  (which I know he can because he ran mine in phpbb, earlier rev) I would toss an Access front end (which would be quicker and easy for me) on a copy of fornits and run a query against the user name “Robertbruce” and get a list of all the unique ip numbers against your name.  I would then take these ip numbers and run a query against the entire database listing every post that had these ip numbers against it.  I would then run an “Update” query updating the data base assigning the name “RobertBruce” to all the posts with those ips.

Or if these ips had different usernames (which I suspect may be the case) then we would list all the user names that bruce has used over the course of his posting period and he could decide how to proceed... i.e. string them together under one username of several...  this is the part that would be difficult... if Bruce had more than one user name then I could see why ginger would have a problem.

See I only had one user name and all guest posts (with the exception of 1 post made under another username), so it was done quickly.

Hmmmm...  now that I thought it through maybe I do see Ginger and psys dilemma?  How many user names have you posted under?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 09:59:18 PM
Just the one Johnny. As I've explained to you before, I don't play the same games you do, I don't need to pretend to be someone else or pretend to have someone elses experiences.


I'll tell you what though Johnny, you obviously know a great deal more about linking up guest posts than I do. So why don't you link it up for me? You have my permisson, knock yourself out. I'll wait to hear back from you when you find out there's nothing there. I'll even give you the means to prove it. Hang on just a second.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2009, 10:01:02 PM
Here I am RobertBruce guest posting. If you can link this one to my account John, we'll know you're telling the truth. If not well then it won't be much of a surprise. Now is that a 5 or an s?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 10:02:35 PM
And there you have it, guest post number six. Let me know what you come up with sport.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 10:08:42 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Just the one Johnny. As I've explained to you before, I don't play the same games you do, I don't need to pretend to be someone else or pretend to have someone elses experiences.


I'll tell you what though Johnny, you obviously know a great deal more about linking up guest posts than I do. So why don't you link it up for me? You have my permisson, knock yourself out. I'll wait to hear back from you when you find out there's nothing there. I'll even give you the means to prove it. Hang on just a second.

sorry, I thought you knew more about this.  I am on this side of the web site.  Ginger and Psy are on the other side.  Doesnt matter what I know I dont have access to the database only they do.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 23, 2009, 10:19:19 PM
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 23, 2009, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

No, but ginger and psy can do it.  They ran the queries and linked up the posts previously for me.  Maybe if you are nice, like I was, they will do it for you.  Maybe they got pissed when you called them cowards or other names like you do others on this forum.
Try being a little nicer and cut back on your trolling and personal attacks and maybe you can get more done, Robert.  You would be surprised at what you can accomplish.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2009, 10:56:45 AM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

Check...and...mate.  If thewho can't make the admins do it, how could RB?

Nicely done RB.  

I thought thewho would know you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.  He spent 100k on ASR and all his kid did in return was overdose and die.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 24, 2009, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

Check...and...mate.  If thewho can't make the admins do it, how could RB?

Nicely done RB.  

I thought thewho would know you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.  He spent 100k on ASR and all his kid did in return was overdose and die.

Sorry, Bruce, nice try.  Each time you try a little different effect.  Its good to see you are still working on it, though.  But the deal still stands.  Try a little honey instead of name calling and trolling.  One of the reasons they may not be doing it for you is because you opened up this whole "TheWho" mess and threads again.  Trolling people and mucking up the forum isnt going to make the admins happy.  Try being considerate of others who post here.... keep your trolling within this thread and maybe the gods will smile upon you.


When you get it done just post the results here.  I will be waiting.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 24, 2009, 12:07:44 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

Check...and...mate.  If thewho can't make the admins do it, how could RB?

Nicely done RB.  

I thought thewho would know you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.  He spent 100k on ASR and all his kid did in return was overdose and die.

Good point.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 24, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

Check...and...mate.  If thewho can't make the admins do it, how could RB?

Nicely done RB.  

I thought thewho would know you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.  He spent 100k on ASR and all his kid did in return was overdose and die.

Sorry, Bruce, nice try.  Each time you try a little different effect.  Its good to see you are still working on it, though.  But the deal still stands.  Try a little honey instead of name calling and trolling.  One of the reasons they may not be doing it for you is because you opened up this whole "TheWho" mess and threads again.  Trolling people and mucking up the forum isnt going to make the admins happy.  Try being considerate of others who post here.... keep your trolling within this thread and maybe the gods will smile upon you.


When you get it done just post the results here.  I will be waiting.

Nicely stated
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 24, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

Check...and...mate.  If thewho can't make the admins do it, how could RB?

Nicely done RB.  

I thought thewho would know you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.  He spent 100k on ASR and all his kid did in return was overdose and die.

Good point.

I guess RB will have to put a loaded gun to Ginger's head in order to satisfy TheWho's wishes.  Or ship her and Psy off to a program for giving answers he doesn't like, ala TheWho.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 24, 2009, 06:16:46 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait a second.....are you telling me you can't do it?

Check...and...mate.  If thewho can't make the admins do it, how could RB?

Nicely done RB.  

I thought thewho would know you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.  He spent 100k on ASR and all his kid did in return was overdose and die.

Sorry, Bruce, nice try.  Each time you try a little different effect.  Its good to see you are still working on it, though.  But the deal still stands.  Try a little honey instead of name calling and trolling.  One of the reasons they may not be doing it for you is because you opened up this whole "TheWho" mess and threads again.  Trolling people and mucking up the forum isnt going to make the admins happy.  Try being considerate of others who post here.... keep your trolling within this thread and maybe the gods will smile upon you.


When you get it done just post the results here.  I will be waiting.

Nah, no guns or pressure.  People are busy, just give it some time... we can wait.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 24, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
I'm just saying if you really wanted it done you'd be more......proactive about it. So far I've seen no evidence that you're doing anything to make it happen. Maybe you have something to hide from. By your own admission you know how to do it, if you want to happen you'll make it happen. If you don't just say so, no shame in it.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 24, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
I'm just saying if you really wanted it done you'd be more......proactive about it. So far I've seen no evidence that you're doing anything to make it happen. Maybe you have something to hide from. By your own admission you know how to do it, if you want to happen you'll make it happen. If you don't just say so, no shame in it.

Exactly,now your getting the idea.  Thats the attitude I took when I was banned for flooding.  No one was going to look out for me except myself so I advocated to psy to have my posts strung together, expose and count my guest posts and any other user names I was posting under.  I did all this while my ip was blocked, not being able to log in and having the sympathy typically extended to program parents.  But I got the job done dispite the obsticles.

Now, you are a survivor, posting on fornits who proclaims to speak with Ginger and psy by phone, yet you cant seem to get the same response or respect I did.  Why is that?  Hmmmm.....  Do you have a reason for not wanting your posts exposed?  Knowing them so well I am sure they would extend you the favor.

Think about it... there is plenty of time RB.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 24, 2009, 10:10:16 PM
You have to admit John, you walked into that one. Once again your own standards were used against you. I've done everything I can do to have the posts linked up, I've far surpassed your standards. This is only because I've never had anything to hide, and am unafraid of the truth. You're still unable to answer that single point. I wonder why?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 24, 2009, 10:18:36 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
You have to admit John, you walked into that one. Once again your own standards were used against you. I've done everything I can do to have the posts linked up, I've far surpassed your standards. This is only because I've never had anything to hide, and am unafraid of the truth. You're still unable to answer that single point. I wonder why?

Walked into what?  I dont follow.  I dont expect you to live up to my standards.  That was an example of how I got my posts strung together.  You have to figure out your own way.  I cant do that for you.
Maybe instead of trying to convince everyone how honest you are you should focus on getting your posts strung together.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 24, 2009, 11:00:30 PM
You know John it occurs to me, you have at your disposal three public requests by me, coupled with an acknowledgement from Ginger regarding my repeated requests to have my five (now six) guest posts linked up. Since you believe you've earned so much respect on here from Ginger and Psy, why don't you see if you can convince them? Afterall they don't seem interested in doing it for me, and as I said last night you seem to have much more technical know how on how to accomplish it then I do. Maybe you'll have more luck? I'm still not afraid of the truth, and I have nothing to hide, so really there's nothing to lose.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 24, 2009, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
You know John it occurs to me, you have at your disposal three public requests by me, coupled with an acknowledgement from Ginger regarding my repeated requests to have my five (now six) guest posts linked up. Since you believe you've earned so much respect on here from Ginger and Psy, why don't you see if you can convince them? Afterall they don't seem interested in doing it for me, and as I said last night you seem to have much more technical know how on how to accomplish it then I do. Maybe you'll have more luck? I'm still not afraid of the truth, and I have nothing to hide, so really there's nothing to lose.

Sorry,  I believe you are right in a few of your comments,  but you will need to do the work yourself. I wish you luck
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 25, 2009, 08:16:28 AM
Why bother trying to please TheWho?  He's a liar and a douchebag with no life who spends all his time on fornits while neglecting his single live child.  Who cares what this asshole thinks about anything at all?  I don't.  Stop responding to him and maybe he'll visit his son's grave and think about why the kid is dead.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 25, 2009, 08:40:15 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Why bother trying to please TheWho?  He's a liar and a douchebag with no life who spends all his time on fornits while neglecting his single live child.  Who cares what this asshole thinks about anything at all?  I don't.  Stop responding to him and maybe he'll visit his son's grave and think about why the kid is dead.

Not looking to be pleased, Bruce, just waiting for results.  Thanks for keeping your personal attacks in this garbage depot.  This does protect others from having to listen to your foul mouth and immaturity.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 25, 2009, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Why bother trying to please TheWho?  He's a liar and a douchebag with no life who spends all his time on fornits while neglecting his single live child.  Who cares what this asshole thinks about anything at all?  I don't.  Stop responding to him and maybe he'll visit his son's grave and think about why the kid is dead.

 :notworthy:  :notworthy: Amen. :notworthy:  :notworthy:
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 25, 2009, 07:57:15 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Not looking to be pleased, Bruce, just waiting for results.  Thanks for keeping your personal attacks in this garbage depot.  This does protect others from having to listen to your foul mouth and immaturity.

I have appreciated the peace and quiet.  Thank you.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 12:00:39 AM
Nah, you were bored. So I'm not quite getting you on this John, you claim to believe in something so ardently, you claim that Ginger and Psy respect you, you have my permission, blessing, and encouragment several times over. What do you have to lose? I want the link up to occur.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2009, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"
Why bother trying to please TheWho?  He's a liar and a douchebag with no life who spends all his time on fornits while neglecting his single live child.  Who cares what this asshole thinks about anything at all?  I don't.  Stop responding to him and maybe he'll visit his son's grave and think about why the kid is dead.

 :notworthy:  :notworthy: Amen. :notworthy:  :notworthy:

Righteous.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
I have a few questions for John Reuben, in the spirit of transparency.  Are you or are you not going to fund sending DJJ children to Ridge Creek School?   Have you already funded DJJ children to either of Buccellato's 5 marketed schools?  Have you been approached to help fill the roster at Ridge Creek School with DJJ children?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 26, 2009, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
I have a few questions for John Reuben, in the spirit of transparency.  Are you or are you not going to fund sending DJJ children to Ridge Creek School?   Have you already funded DJJ children to either of Buccellato's 5 marketed schools?  Have you been approached to help fill the roster at Ridge Creek School with DJJ children?

I would suggest you PM RobertBruce on this one.  He sort of made this up as a victory cry that he has found my true identity (once again).  2 months ago I was suppose to be this guy named Peter.  Prior to that he claimed he himself was thewho. Before that he called me Cindy, Alan Newman, Function Junction, then the guy who started strugglingteens ... get the picture?  He is not too obsessed...

Sorry I cannot answer your questions.  I would be very interested myself.



Thewho
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 06:34:44 PM
Oh John, you give me far too much credit, Let me break down each one of your claims:

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2 months ago I was suppose to be this guy named Peter

Peter Dunbar, apparently a friend of yours. Dysfunction approached me with two possible contendors. I went with the Dunbar one, he ended up going with the Reuben one. We wanted to watch your reaction to see which was more likely. Later on he showed me more evidence preety much sealing the deal on you being Reuben. The Dunbar claim was my mistake, I apologize for the confusion.

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Prior to that he claimed he himself was thewho.

You mean my little joke on you? Come on John, you got a little wrapped up in that one. You started the claim that you and I were the same person in an effort to avoid accountability for your comments made on here. I just beat you at your own game and everyone had a good laugh.

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Before that he called me Cindy

Well that was just a fun little nickname. You know, Cindy Lou Who, from the Grinch?

Quote
Alan Newman

I actually didn't start this one, you did. Why was that? Just trying to throw people off?


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Function Junction

Who ever claimed you were Function Junction? I don't know that anyone ever made that claim. So far as I know Function Junction is a friend of yours who works or worked at HLA. He found you to be dumb enough to work as a stoolie for them and broke several HIPPA laws by talking about a former inmate at HLA with you. He told you who they think I am, and then apparently lied and told you I was bi sexual, which you then thinking you had something on me tried to black mail me with. You later lied about it and claimed I had originated the comments after your threats fell flat.  

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then the guy who started strugglingteens

Who? Are you talking about Lon? Again John, you're giving me far too much credit. Others may have made this claim, but I certianlly didnt. Call him up and ask him, I'm sure the two of you are friends.

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get the picture? He is not too obsessed...

Apparently not. So what's your excuse. Now Jill has asked you some very reasonable questions. I think it's only fair that you answer her.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 26, 2009, 06:40:55 PM
As we can see each time RB convinces himself he is right.  This time he has named me John.  When he tires of this I will become something else in his imagination.  We all play along but there has never been any evidence presented, which is par.  But it keeps everyone busy and not bored.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 06:42:11 PM
There's been a great deal of evidence presented that you are in fact John Reuben. Did you need to see it?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 26, 2009, 06:53:52 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
There's been a great deal of evidence presented that you are in fact John Reuben. Did you need to see it?

Again...link? ....evidence?   It is all in your head Bruce... have you tried emailing this guy or providing some type of evidence.  I dont mind playing along with you but dont pretend for it to be fact.  But dont mislead others.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 07:47:35 PM
Well you didnt actually answer the question John. You can't say my methodology is lacking before I've even responded. I'll get right to work on your links. While I'm doing that perhaps you could answer a brief questionare for me. Nothing you haven't already stated, it's just for comparrison purposes.


1. You currently live or have recently have lived in Massachusetts?

2. You do a form of consultant work, of a sort. You go in to start up companies, or existing ones where problems exists at which point you come in and attempt to solve the problems, or build up the company before moving on?

3. You claim to have a daughter which you sent to SUWS and later ASR?

4. Your father worked for Bain Capital?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 26, 2009, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Well you didnt actually answer the question John. You can't say my methodology is lacking before I've even responded. I'll get right to work on your links. While I'm doing that perhaps you could answer a brief questionare for me. Nothing you haven't already stated, it's just for comparrison purposes.


1. You currently live or have recently have lived in Massachusetts?

2. You do a form of consultant work, of a sort. You go in to start up companies, or existing ones where problems exists at which point you come in and attempt to solve the problems, or build up the company before moving on?

3. You claim to have a daughter which you sent to SUWS and later ASR?

4. Your father worked for Bain Capital?

I have a daughter who attend SUWS and ASR and my family buys companies brings their management team up to snuff so that they are profitable again and then send them on their way, resell them or keep minority holdings.  We consult also......We reside in New England.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 10:23:30 PM
Fantastic, let's see what we can dig up.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 10:37:23 PM
Well here's your linkedin profile. Quite a resume you've got there. It almost seems like you're coming into companies, working on projects for a short amount of time and then moving on. Wait....where have I heard something like that before?


http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnreuben (http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnreuben)
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 26, 2009, 10:51:26 PM
Wait wait wait....I had no clue this golden nugget was available. Here's you on the radio. I'm going to have to have a listen and see what else we can garner from this.


So then so far we've got two out of four of the criteria met. I'll look forward to continuing the conversation.

http://www.latalkradio.com/Dore.php (http://www.latalkradio.com/Dore.php)
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2009, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Well you didnt actually answer the question John. You can't say my methodology is lacking before I've even responded. I'll get right to work on your links. While I'm doing that perhaps you could answer a brief questionare for me. Nothing you haven't already stated, it's just for comparrison purposes.


1. You currently live or have recently have lived in Massachusetts?

2. You do a form of consultant work, of a sort. You go in to start up companies, or existing ones where problems exists at which point you come in and attempt to solve the problems, or build up the company before moving on?

3. You claim to have a daughter which you sent to SUWS and later ASR?

4. Your father worked for Bain Capital?

..
Robert...  The John Reuben from Mass., deceased  ex-wife Lena Frias Reuben, father (deceased) was a Philadelphia attorney..
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 26, 2009, 11:28:11 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Wait wait wait....I had no clue this golden nugget was available. Here's you on the radio. I'm going to have to have a listen and see what else we can garner from this.


So then so far we've got two out of four of the criteria met. I'll look forward to continuing the conversation.

http://www.latalkradio.com/Dore.php (http://www.latalkradio.com/Dore.php)

I think RB has finally lost it.  I guess I am on the radio now.  It will be interesting to hear who I will become next.  Dont quit your job over this, RB, please, I am starting to feel bad.  Have the dogs been fed today?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2009, 11:55:51 PM
John Reuben's father:
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/08/05/obitu ... er-58.html (http://www.nytimes.com/1989/08/05/obituaries/allan-h-reuben-lawyer-58.html)

Allan H. Reuben, Lawyer, 58
Published: Saturday, August 5, 1989

Allan H. Reuben, a Philadelphia lawyer and civil rights advocate, died Thursday at Jefferson University Hospital, Philadelphia, after a long illness. He was 58 years old and lived in Elkins Park, Pa.

Mr. Reuben was a partner in the firm of Wolf, Block, Schorr & Solis-Cohen. He was a member of the board of the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, and he was on the executive committee of the Pennsylvania Governor's Justice Commission.

He is survived by his wife, the former Gladys Winkler; a son, John of Enfield, Conn.; two daughters, Patricia Anne of Bloomington, Ind., and Catherine Ellen of Somerville, Mass., and two grandchildren.

JR. mother
Paid Notice: Deaths REUBEN, GLADYS H. - New York Times
The New York Times | August 3, 2000


REUBEN-Gladys H. of Cambridge, Ma. on July 31, 2000. Beloved wife of the late Allan H. Reuben Esquire of Philadelphia. Devoted mother of John D. Reuben & his wife, Lena, Patricia Reuben Abreu and her husband Aldo and Catherine E. Reuben Esquire and her significant other Scott Glanzman. Loving sister of ...

  Paid Notice: Deaths REUBEN, MICHAEL JOSHUA - New York Times
The New York Times | September 22, 2008  

J.R. Son
REUBEN--Michael Joshua. Age 22, of Sudbury, MA. Beloved son of John D. Reuben. Brother of Max H. Reuben. Musician, artist and sales executive. We will miss our child and the young man he became. Addiction was the illness that took him, but never the essence of who he was. Also survived by his loving grandmother, and numerous dear aunts, uncles, cousins and friends, including ...
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 27, 2009, 06:46:53 PM
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I think RB has finally lost it. I guess I am on the radio now. It will be interesting to hear who I will become next. Dont quit your job over this, RB, please, I am starting to feel bad. Have the dogs been fed today

The dogs are great John. I'm listening to the show now, I like your use of the word "transporters" as a subsitute for escorts.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 27, 2009, 08:11:59 PM
Here is where Bruce left off:

Guest wrote:
Robert... The John Reuben from Mass., deceased ex-wife Lena Frias Reuben, father (deceased) was a Philadelphia attorney..

Now we are waiting for Robert to try to provide evidence to support his position.  But as usual when we start getting close to the truth he bails out and changes the subject.

So we are still  waiting as usual.  Run...Run...Run....!!!  But we will still be here.  There is still time to change your mind, RB.  Remember a few weeks ago you were calling me Peter and when you were held accountable you ran and now you claim I am John.  Come on, Bruce!!!! support at least one of your posts.  Show us you can follow thru just one time.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 27, 2009, 09:11:41 PM
Who's changing the subject John? You asked for evidence to support the claim that you are in fact John D. Reuben and I'm slowly but surely providing it. As for Peter Dunbar, no one actually held me accountable I openly acknowledged my mistake. Dysfunction showed me additional evidence that lead me to believe you are John Reuben over Peter Dunbar. There was ample evidence to believe you were Mr. Dunbar, but the case seems to be stronger that you are John Reuben. If Mr. Dunbar posted here I would apologize to him. Now I'm going to continue to provide evidence, for example: we know that John Reuben (you) sent his son Mike to both ASR and SUWS, as you claimed to have done with your "daughter".  Now what are the odds of that? We also know that John Reuben (you) sent his other son Max to HLA . For years you've rambled on and on about HLA, despite not having any connection to it whatsoever. Turns out you did afterall. You locked your son up there. So I'm going to keep digging because I really do enjoy this. You in the mean time see if you can find an example of me running from something on here.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2009, 09:17:13 PM
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Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 27, 2009, 09:23:02 PM
Tom Redmon, ED.D., CAE
President
Southern Association of Independent Schools (SAIS)
1866 Southern Lane, Decatur, GA 30033
direct line 678.852.9084     fax 770.512.0771
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Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 27, 2009, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Who's changing the subject John? You asked for evidence to support the claim that you are in fact John D. Reuben and I'm slowly but surely providing it. As for Peter Dunbar, no one actually held me accountable I openly acknowledged my mistake. Dysfunction showed me additional evidence that lead me to believe you are John Reuben over Peter Dunbar. There was ample evidence to believe you were Mr. Dunbar, but the case seems to be stronger that you are John Reuben. If Mr. Dunbar posted here I would apologize to him. Now I'm going to continue to provide evidence, for example: we know that John Reuben (you) sent his son Mike to both ASR and SUWS, as you claimed to have done with your "daughter".  Now what are the odds of that? We also know that John Reuben (you) sent his other son Max to HLA . For years you've rambled on and on about HLA, despite not having any connection to it whatsoever. Turns out you did afterall. You locked your son up there. So I'm going to keep digging because I really do enjoy this. You in the mean time see if you can find an example of me running from something on here.

Your a little flakey, RB, but have fun.  Seems you have a mission which will keep you busy.  If my name changes again or if I have any other kids in programs just let me know.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2009, 02:15:49 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Well here's your linkedin profile. Quite a resume you've got there. It almost seems like you're coming into companies, working on projects for a short amount of time and then moving on. Wait....where have I heard something like that before?


http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnreuben (http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnreuben)


John Reuben’s Interests:
Live Music - Primarily Classic Rock & Blues Running Long Distance Races - Marathons


Yeh, Who is Reuben, rather Reuben is Who.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 28, 2009, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: "guest4NKQD"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Well here's your linkedin profile. Quite a resume you've got there. It almost seems like you're coming into companies, working on projects for a short amount of time and then moving on. Wait....where have I heard something like that before?


http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnreuben (http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnreuben)


John Reuben’s Interests:
Live Music - Primarily Classic Rock & Blues Running Long Distance Races - Marathons


Yeh, Who is Reuben, rather Reuben is Who.

This gives us all some good insite on how RobertBruce comes to his conclusions and information that he bases his facts on.  Remember this when he recalls his "facts" from his 3 week stay at HLA.  Most of it is in his mind, very little is concrete evidence.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
RB was at HLA for about a year.  TheWho lies about everything.  Why do you lie, Who?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 28, 2009, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
RB was at HLA for about a year.  TheWho lies about everything.  Why do you lie, Who?

We know, we know,  3 weeks is about a year.  We have all heard it before, Ask Bruce!!!  He will tell you:   "I was there almost a year"
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Troll Control on August 28, 2009, 07:36:54 PM
Yeah, let's believe the biggest liar on Fornits (TheWho) who claims never to have had any connection whatsoever to HLA over people who know RB and went to HLA with him, as well as RB who experienced it first hand.  Makes a lot of sense to believe the unconnected proven liar.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 28, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Yeah, let's believe the biggest liar on Fornits (TheWho) who claims never to have had any connection whatsoever to HLA over people who know RB and went to HLA with him, as well as RB who experienced it first hand.  Makes a lot of sense to believe the unconnected proven liar.

Classic!!  Sorry Bruce...cant have it both ways.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 29, 2009, 01:58:53 AM
Just out curiousity John did you have any basis for your misguided claims? Don't get me wrong I find it hilarious to watch you in your vain effort to appear you know what youre talking about, or change the subject when you get scared, but has the thought ever occured to you that facts might be useful as well? It's almost like watching someone tumble down a flight of stairs, get up with blood streaming out of their ears, and claim they were being graceful.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 29, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
I'm actually always logged in as it saves me the trouble. You might try it someday. Again though you're confused, look to the comments made by RobertBruce, as those are the only ones I've made regarding this or any other topic in the past year (minus of course the verification guest post from the other week. When are you going to get on that by the way?). If you have questions or comments about those posts, by all means bring them to my attention, otherwise I suggest directing your comments towards the people who actually made them John. This will save you the trouble of speaking to the wrong person and continuing to look stupid.

Are there any comments you can point to that you know I've made that definitively state what RC is or is not accreditted/licensed as?

This is how Bruce slowly gets himself out of a lie (his M.O.).  He goes from “I never guest post”.... to ... “I have only guest posted 5 times in my life” .... to now .... “ I only guest posted 5 times in the past year”...... next it will be... “I meant since the beginning of this year” ... then.... “ I meant I never guest posted in this thread”... finally when he revels his posts ... “thewho, its all in your mind!!  I never said I didn’t guest post”

Sorry this is taking so long everyone.  It only took me a few days to get my posts strung together.  As we get closer and closer to getting Bruce to have his guest posts strung together he is going to slowly have to come clean.  As we see above this process has started to occur.  Either he will continue to come clean and change his story or he wont get his post strung together at all.  I find this very interesting as it comes together.  Lets wait to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 29, 2009, 04:13:38 PM
And yet again John works tirelessly to avoid those tough questions he's afraid of. Work on that reading comprehension Johnny, here look:

Quote
look to the comments made by RobertBruce, as those are the only ones I've made regarding this or any other topic in the past year (minus of course the verification guest post from the other week. When are you going to get on that by the way?).

Brought down to the 5th grade level for you that says:

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Posts under the name RobertBruce are the only ones I've made in the past year

You can't spin it any other way, thanks for playing though.

I am interested in one comment though:

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He goes from “I never guest post”.... to ...

When did I make this comment John? I'm sure you'll be happy to provide a link to it.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 29, 2009, 04:38:30 PM
again!!....Nice try.....Okay lets try to take the focus off of Roberts guest posts and try to run around proving whether or not he said he didnt guest post or not.  Sorry Bruce.  I already outlined your MO.

Lets stick to getting your posts trung together.  Then we can track down what you said or did not say.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 29, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Priceless.

Talking about M.O. Yours can be summed up quite quickly:

Dodge, evade and repeat, always repeat.

Actually come to think of it I think I did outline your M.O. I'll see if I can't dig it up. While I'm doing that there are several questions floating around you've been unable to answer. If you're too afraid of those that's fine, you have my post link up to work on. I thought you said you could take care of it?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 29, 2009, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Priceless.

Talking about M.O. Yours can be summed up quite quickly:

Dodge, evade and repeat, always repeat.

Actually come to think of it I think I did outline your M.O. I'll see if I can't dig it up. While I'm doing that there are several questions floating around you've been unable to answer. If you're too afraid of those that's fine, you have my post link up to work on. I thought you said you could take care of it?

Sorry, Bruce, gotta do your own work like I did.  When you get your posts strung together I will answer your questions.  I knew you would try this but I have to keep you focused on getting your posts done, for your own good.  Sorry buddy.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 29, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
Why do you think it's for my own good John? I mean even since by your own standards I proved I was telling the truth what's added at this point? Even if I was lying though wouldnt accountability be good for you as well? Why do you hate it so much? Either way I told you to get my six posts linked up, I've given my permission numerous times. You claimed you could do it, you claimed Ginger and Psy both respected you, what's the hold up? I mean after all this was your accusation to begin with, isn't the burden of proof on you?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 29, 2009, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Why do you think it's for my own good John? I mean even since by your own standards I proved I was telling the truth what's added at this point? Even if I was lying though wouldnt accountability be good for you as well? Why do you hate it so much? Either way I told you to get my six posts linked up, I've given my permission numerous times. You claimed you could do it, you claimed Ginger and Psy both respected you, what's the hold up? I mean after all this was your accusation to begin with, isn't the burden of proof on you?

Wiggle, Wiggle, but you cant get away. You gotta get your posts strung together before we move forward, Bruce.  I never asked you for help to get mine done (which I did twice).  when you get it done we can talk.  Come-on be a man and take control of your own posts for a change, dont rely on other people.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 29, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
Again though, it's your accusation. You have what you need from me, my permission, my encouragement, my blessing. So since its your unfounded baseless accusation, why isnt the burden on you?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 29, 2009, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Again though, it's your accusation. You have what you need from me, my permission, my encouragement, my blessing. So since its your unfounded baseless accusation, why isnt the burden on you?

Tisk, Tisk,..wiggle, wiggle..you cant run free. I will answer your questions after you get your posts strung together, nothing has changed.  You can keep running and trying to avoid the outcome, but at some point you are going to have to either get it done or say you dont want to do it.  Either way it will be okay.  There is no shame in wanting to keep your guest posts a secret, robert.  But you should be a man and just say what you are going to do.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 29, 2009, 08:45:39 PM
Are you saying you can't deliver John? Did you make an accusation you can't back up? Why did you make it to begin with then?
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 29, 2009, 09:10:31 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
Are you saying you can't deliver John? Did you make an accusation you can't back up? Why did you make it to begin with then?


Tisk, Tisk,..wiggle, wiggle..you cant run free. Stay focused RB.... get the job done
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 30, 2009, 12:11:21 AM
Oh John, the only one running is you. You've made an accusation you cannot back up with evidence of any kind. Perhaps you should be more proactive about it.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2009, 01:48:31 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
I have a few questions for John Reuben, in the spirit of transparency.  Are you or are you not going to fund sending DJJ children to Ridge Creek School?   Have you already funded DJJ children to either of Buccellato's 5 marketed schools?  Have you been approached to help fill the roster at Ridge Creek School with DJJ children?

I would suggest you PM RobertBruce on this one.  He sort of made this up as a victory cry that he has found my true identity (once again).  2 months ago I was suppose to be this guy named Peter.  Prior to that he claimed he himself was thewho. Before that he called me Cindy, Alan Newman, Function Junction, then the guy who started strugglingteens ... get the picture?  He is not too obsessed...

Sorry I cannot answer your questions.  I would be very interested myself.



Thewho
 You "cannot" as in "cannot" or won't.  John Reuben could answer those questions.  If you are not John Reuben, then why did you bother to answer this post?
John Reuben knows Leslie Goldberg, yet you answered in another post, that you didn't know her...
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 30, 2009, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
I have a few questions for John Reuben, in the spirit of transparency.  Are you or are you not going to fund sending DJJ children to Ridge Creek School?   Have you already funded DJJ children to either of Buccellato's 5 marketed schools?  Have you been approached to help fill the roster at Ridge Creek School with DJJ children?

I would suggest you PM RobertBruce on this one.  He sort of made this up as a victory cry that he has found my true identity (once again).  2 months ago I was suppose to be this guy named Peter.  Prior to that he claimed he himself was thewho. Before that he called me Cindy, Alan Newman, Function Junction, then the guy who started strugglingteens ... get the picture?  He is not too obsessed...

Sorry I cannot answer your questions.  I would be very interested myself.



Thewho
 You "cannot" as in "cannot" or won't.  John Reuben could answer those questions.  If you are not John Reuben, then why did you bother to answer this post?
John Reuben knows Leslie Goldberg, yet you answered in another post, that you didn't know her...

That is a good point.  I should not have responded to someone elses name.  I dont believe I have ever seen him post here, though, but either way this will be the last post I will respond to which is addressed to John Rueben to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2009, 09:06:24 AM
^^blatant lie by thewho, aka john reuben^^
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 30, 2009, 11:48:01 AM
Uh oh John, that's not going to play well in front a judge.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 30, 2009, 01:52:37 PM
Its obvious he doesnt know who Leslie Goldberg is.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 30, 2009, 06:13:33 PM
Sure he does. Look they work together incarcerating teens:

http://www.savingteens.org/ (http://www.savingteens.org/)
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 30, 2009, 07:46:11 PM
Here you go John.

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I think the person feeding him should be charged, if its McDonalds then they should take responsibility. ?.after all this is America.

Now do you have a link proving McDonald's or anyone else was charged for feeding Mr. Cooley too much? Do you have a link of me claiming that Mr. Cooley was charged? I know the answer but I still need to ask.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 30, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
Quote from: "Guest"

What puzzles me is why posters like DJ and RobertBruce cannot stick with facts and just come out and state the truth.  This really hurts the forums credibility and it is a continuous struggle to hold them both accountable.  This is why I insist on links from the 2 of them especially.

I'll take a shot at this.  

The reason may be that they really want to spank HLA in the worst way.  DJ because his ideas were never listened to when he was employed there and Bruce because for the first time he was held accountable for his actions (similar to what I am doing here) and he couldn’t handle it and after a few weeks ran away.  But this obviously cannot be accomplished by merely telling the truth about their experiences (or they don’t feel it can).  So they have this need to lie about HLA and other programs to satisfy their need to discredit every program and people associated with them.

I know I come across as the bad guy every time I expose them, I am seen as unfeeling because I don’t support the lies against the big bad industry, appear to come to their rescue and therefore I must be profiting from it.  But hey, the truth will rise to the top like cream (it does every time) and I am just here to insure the truth gets a voice here on fornits.  I have exposed them and corrected them twice in just the past couple of  weeks alone.

Lying is the wrong way to fight and you end up losing ever time and I am here to push the natural result along a little faster
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 30, 2009, 08:16:31 PM
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I'll take a shot at this.

So..now you're answering your own questions?


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DJ because his ideas were never listened to when he was employed there

Your basis for this is?

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Bruce because for the first time he was held accountable for his actions

Really? Please tell us all, what events lead to my being placed at HLA? Tell us what my time was like there and what transpired since you claim to know.

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(similar to what I am doing here

How so?

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and he couldn’t handle it and after a few weeks ran away

Your basis for this is?

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But this obviously cannot be accomplished by merely telling the truth about their experiences (or they don’t feel it can). So they have this need to lie about HLA and other programs to satisfy their need to discredit every program and people associated with them

Can you provide a single example of a verifiable lie either DJ or I have told about HLA? A single one will do.

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Lying is the wrong way to fight and you end up losing ever time and I am here to push the natural result along a little faster


If that's true then why do you lie on here so often?


Looks like you've got your work cut out for you tonight John. You've got all this and I'm still waiting on you to provide that link showing McDonalds was held liable for the kid Mr. Cooley killed.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 30, 2009, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Guest"

What puzzles me is why posters like DJ and RobertBruce cannot stick with facts and just come out and state the truth.  This really hurts the forums credibility and it is a continuous struggle to hold them both accountable.  This is why I insist on links from the 2 of them especially.

I'll take a shot at this.  

The reason may be that they really want to spank HLA in the worst way.  DJ because his ideas were never listened to when he was employed there and Bruce because for the first time he was held accountable for his actions (similar to what I am doing here) and he couldn’t handle it and after a few weeks ran away.  But this obviously cannot be accomplished by merely telling the truth about their experiences (or they don’t feel it can).  So they have this need to lie about HLA and other programs to satisfy their need to discredit every program and people associated with them.

I know I come across as the bad guy every time I expose them, I am seen as unfeeling because I don’t support the lies against the big bad industry, appear to come to their rescue and therefore I must be profiting from it.  But hey, the truth will rise to the top like cream (it does every time) and I am just here to insure the truth gets a voice here on fornits.  I have exposed them and corrected them twice in just the past couple of  weeks alone.

Lying is the wrong way to fight and you end up losing ever time and I am here to push the natural result along a little faster

I really dont think DJ lied or mislead anyone.  I have followed his posts.  RobertBruce does like to disrupt things and troll thewho and does lie to get his goat.  I wouldnt take anything that RB says as fact.  Dont take it personally and try to let it go.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 30, 2009, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: "Guest 7"

I really dont think DJ lied or mislead anyone.  I have followed his posts.  RobertBruce does like to disrupt things and troll thewho and does lie to get his goat.  I wouldnt take anything that RB says as fact.  Dont take it personally and try to let it go.

Thanks,Guest 7, but I have let him go on many of his lies.  He stated that the Grand Jury made a statement and now I am just asking for him to back up his words for once,  I have provided links for all of my statements.  It is time for him to back up his words for once.  He claims he isnt lying, now is his chance to show all of us.  He will try his usual deflection and trying to change the subject to avoid providing that link.  but we will see what happens
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 31, 2009, 06:39:44 PM
Trying to back peddal on your own comments John? Not surprising.

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I am just asking for him to back up his words for once


Which words John? It's always been you who fears and hates accountability, while I embrace it. So please, provide a link to exactly which words of mine you'd like me to back up and I'll be happy to do so. After which I'll be interested to see if you can do the same with your own words. I doubt it.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: TheWho on August 31, 2009, 06:49:44 PM
Jill Ryan had a point that I shouldnt be responding to you if you are addressing your questions to someone else.  So I will only respond to "thewho" or "guest". Secondly you should give us a status of how you are doing on getting your posts strung together.  Still running?  You seem to like to bury this topic of yours.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on August 31, 2009, 08:27:07 PM
How about Cindy? That always seemed to fit you nicely. If you don't want to be called by your name that's your business, everyone knows who you are now, any searches under the name John D. Reuben are going to come back to this. People will see you for who and what you really are and know the truth about you.

As to my posts being linked up I'm still waiting on you. What's the hold up? I'll take the fact that you're trying to change the subject a sign that you once again can't back up any of your claims.
Title: Re: John Reuben's Garbage Depot
Post by: RobertBruce on September 07, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
Once again Cindy's chicken shit shines right through. No surprises there, no one expected him to actually back up his claims anyway.